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0 Subject: NASCAR Tools - Opinions Please!!!!!

Posted by: KrazyKoalaBears
- Donor [266182910] Sun, Dec 02, 2001, 17:43

Ok, I'm making some tools for NASCAR for the upcoming release of the new Gleem.net. I've got the tools in place, but my fiancee had some questions about the "short" names that I used for some of the tracks. Like football, basketball, hockey, and baseball, I've attempted to shorten each of the tracks' names to a 3 letter "short" name. Here's what I've got.

ATL - Atlanta Motor Speedway
BRS - Bristol Motor Speedway
CAL - California Speedway
CHI - Chicagoland Speedway
DAR - Darlington Raceway
DAY - Daytona International Speedway
DDS - Dover Downs International Speedway
HMS - Homestead-Miami Speedway
IND - Indianapolis Motor Speedway
KAN - Kansas Speedway
LVS - Las Vegas Motor Speedway
LWS - Lowe's Motor Speedway
MVL - Martinsville Speedway
MCH - Michigan International Speedway
NWH - New Hampshire International Speedway
ROK - North Carolina Speedway (Rockingham)
PHO - Phoenix International Speedway
POC - Pocono Raceway
RIR - Richmond International Raceway
SRS - Sears Points Raceway
TAL - Talladega SuperSpeedway
TEX - Texas Motor Speedway
WKG - Watkins Glen International

Keep in mind that these will be viewed in the context of tools and stats, so you would likely be seeing only something like:
ATL
CHI
DAR

So do these translate well? Or do there need to be changes? And if so, which ones and what change? Thanks!

1Makisupa
      Donor
      ID: 19133810
      Sun, Dec 02, 2001, 18:11
I wouldn't begin to know, but I think that DOV would be slightly better that DDS.
2Makisupa
      Donor
      ID: 19133810
      Sun, Dec 02, 2001, 18:12
MIS for Michigan
AMS for Atlanta

again, I'm not sure, just thinking...
3Dr. Doom
      ID: 16142182
      Sun, Dec 02, 2001, 18:58
I think you should try to be as consistent as much as possible. If you can use the first three letters from Atlanta (ATL). Then try to continue the theme whenever possible. I would remember MAR (Martinsville) easier than MVL.

Some may be more appropriate as a two letter initial Sears Point (SP), New Hampshire (NH) and Watkins Glen (WG) for example. If you need three characters, I am sure you could add something appropriate.

One track I am not sure of is Lowe's, is it more identified by being in Charlotte or as the Lowe's Motor Speedway.

My $.02
4KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sun, Dec 02, 2001, 22:03
Good feedback. I understand what you're saying Dr. Doom, and think you've hit on the major problem (the lack of consistency). So what about the following lineup ATL
BRI
CAL
CHI
DAR
DAY
DOV
HOM
IND
KAN
LAS
CHA
MAR
MIS*
NHS*
ROC
PHO
POC
RIR*
SPT*
TAL
TEX
WGL*

The ones with an asterik (*) I figure needed a bit more explanation:
MIS - Using the 3-letter start, it would be MIC. In this case, I think MIS would be recognized more than MIC because MIS is the initials of the track.

NHS - Need 3 letters, so added the "S" from Speedway

RIR - Using the 3-letter start, it would be RIC. I think RIR is more recognized for the same reason as MIS.

SPT - Need 3 letters, so took the abbreviation of "point", or "pt"

WGL - Need 3 letters, so took the L from Glen. Plus, it pays homage to my old college's radio station, WEGL. ;)

Thoughts?

5Wahoo
      ID: 51831248
      Sun, Dec 02, 2001, 22:47
I went down the list and was able to recognize them fairly easily. Only one I had to think about was CHA, LOW (Lowes) might be better. MIS and RIR are good as is.
6KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sun, Dec 02, 2001, 23:06
Wahoo, are you a real Wahoo? As in C'ville? Anyhow, thanks for the input.
7Makisupa
      Donor
      ID: 401144218
      Sun, Dec 02, 2001, 23:52
To my knowledge Lowe's is the first racetrack to sell the sponsoring rights to the track name. Obviously this can change, other tracks could pick up on this, or Humpy could swith sponsorships after his 5 year deal with Lowe's is up. I know that track as Charlotte, but its hard to say in five years what we'll know it as.

8Wahoo
      ID: 51831248
      Mon, Dec 03, 2001, 06:17
KKB - If by C'ville you mean Cleveland, then I'm a Tribe fan. If not, then I guess I missed something. ;)

Makisupa - good point on Charlotte. CHA is easy enough, just had to think for a minute being used to hear it called Lowe's now.
9KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Mon, Dec 03, 2001, 08:57
Makisupa, good point. I'm somewhat new to NASCAR, so I've always known it as Lowe's, but think it would probably be best to use the city name in this instance for reasons you pointed out.

Wahoo, going with the "Chief Wahoo" theme, eh? Actually, I was referring to UVA (University of Virginia), but oh well.

Thanks all!

10KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Thu, Dec 06, 2001, 13:41
I hope someone reads this because it sure could help out a lot.

Anyhow, I only played Yahoo.com's version of Fantasy Stock Car Racing last year and I wasn't all that good at it. Anyhow, part of the tools that I will be offering for next season will show an average upcoming schedule (a Gleem.net staple ;). The question is, how many races into the future do you consider when looking at a driver? 1, 2, 3, 5, 10? Any insight would be appreciated.

11BackwoodsBum
      ID: 4910251923
      Thu, Dec 06, 2001, 14:40
KKB, it sounds like you've got big plans for next season...I can't wait! This was my first year of playing any fantasy Nascar games and my A team finished 47th overall. I had two other teams and the worst one of them had a wwr just inside the top 500 so I figure my strategy worked well enough for a beginner. In any case, I seldom looked more than 2 races in the future when choosing my drivers. There are so many variables involved with racing that I usually had one or two drivers that were more or less locked in, then the other slots I filled just before the roster freeze with whoever looked good in qualifying and practice. The only times I varied from this strategy were Atlanta where I picked Bobby Labonte even though he stunk in practice and qualifying just because I knew how well he had run there in the past, and the restrictor plate tracks where I favored the Earnhardt and Childress teams based strictly on past performance. The only time I considered anything more than one or two races ahead were when they hit the stretch where they ran a lot of short track races. I picked Rusty Wallace up then.

Anyway, in my opinion 2 races is sufficient and anything more than that would probably be more work for only a little benefit.
12GoatLocker
      ID: 391143614
      Thu, Dec 06, 2001, 14:50
KKB,
Abreviations look good to me.
It was my first year for NASCAR, but found I really only concentrated on the upcoming race for most of the season.
Early on I looked out one or two, but later found no need to do that.
Trades were tight early, but had plenty out toward the end of the season.

Cliff
13KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Thu, Dec 06, 2001, 15:41
BackwoodsBum, yes, I do have big plans in store. I'm hoping to have a NASCAR Pick'ems game where you essentially just try to pick the winner of the race. Nice and simple. Bonus points for laps led and completed, etc., but keeping it simple compared to TSN/SW. I also have another game idea in store, but I'm not sure if I'll get it done in time. We'll see.

With regards to looking at future races, it looks like 2 is sufficient (my initial thinking), but I'll go ahead and put 3 races into the schedule just to play it safe for those who like to look really long term.

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