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Subject: Stewart fined, docked points, but gets to race
Posted by: Sludge
- [523482015] Wed, Jun 30, 2004, 15:22
Stewart fined, put on probation for incident
Probation sets bad example, drivers say
NASCAR doesn't look very consistent to me with this "punishment" in light of Spencer vs. Busch last year. Twenty-five points isn't the big deal it was last year or in prior years with the new "playoff" system where, assuming Stewart makes the top 10, it will translate to 0, 5, or 10 points depending on how many spots it causes him to drop (if any). If he doesn't make it, there's a very small chance that it will be such that the 25 points made any difference. |
| 1 | KrazyKoalaBears
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Thu, Jul 01, 2004, 09:21
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And the joke formerly known as NASCAR continues. First Harvick and Kenseth get slapped on the wrist and then NASCAR is pretty much forced to slap Stewart on the wrist so that they don't look inconsistent when comparing the incident to Harvick/Kenseth. I'm starting to think WWE and NASCAR should merge.
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| 2 | Great One@ Work
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Thu, Jul 01, 2004, 11:11
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reminds me of Bill Simmons article...
maybe Vickers will take out someone else next week and help Stewart out - then get out of his car - tear off his shirt - and reveal a Tony Stewart t-shirt underneath. He fooled us all!
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| 3 | Wahoo
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Thu, Jul 01, 2004, 13:51
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The Harvick/Kenseth penalty is comparable to other similar incidents such as Stewart spinning Gordon in the pits.
Stewart should have been suspended as Spencer was last year.
That would have grabbed everyones attention.
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| 4 | Sludge
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Fri, Jul 02, 2004, 12:16
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First Harvick and Kenseth get slapped on the wrist and then NASCAR is pretty much forced to slap Stewart on the wrist so that they don't look inconsistent when comparing the incident to Harvick/Kenseth.
Not the way I see it. I think NASCAR established last year pretty clearly that on-track incidents were to be treated differently than off-track incidents.
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| 5 | KrazyKoalaBears
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Fri, Jul 02, 2004, 23:05
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You're right, but this year, particularly in the last few weeks, NASCAR has come under more and more scrutiny from outside sources regarding their rules and handling of "situations." Because of that, I think NASCAR got gun-shy and simply slapped Stewart on the wrist so that people didn't say, "Why weren't Harvick and Kenseth suspended because of what they did?" Particularly Harvick, who has been on probation something like half of his NASCAR career, for whatever that means. Seems like Harvick has turned NASCAR's probation into his own personal joke as it doesn't seem to mean anything. Stewart certainly should have been suspended, but NASCAR buckled in the increased public eye, IMHO.
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| 6 | Wahoo
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Sat, Jul 03, 2004, 09:47
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Who are the outside sources scrutinizing NASCAR?
The fans have long been critical of NASCAR rules and they have always run the sport this way. It's just noticed more now because it's popular.
If anyone put pressure on NASCAR to not suspend Stewart, it would have been Joe Gibs and Home Depot (official home remodeling store of NASCAR). According to the poll at NASCAR.com, the fans wanted him suspended and think the penalty was too light.
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| 7 | KrazyKoalaBears
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Sun, Jul 04, 2004, 11:15
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Wahoo, the outside sources are the media that NASCAR has grabbed the attention of in the past few years. You're right that most everyone wanted Stewart suspended, but I think NASCAR got scared of being either too lenient or too harsh and went middle of the road. The could (should?) have suspended Stewart to send a message that ANY off-track altercation would result in a suspension, but they're trying to blow it off like it wasn't anything major, like a Spencer/Busch incident. And yes, the fans have always been critical and they will continue to be until the have real rules that mean something. Right now, and for many decades now, they don't. It's all fly by the seat of their pants and that's not going to live up to increased media scrutiny for long. When you have commentators (not just DW and Larry Mac) questioning your previous decisions during the next race's prerace show for weeks in a row, you've got a problem that needs to be fixed. And it needs to be fixed by creating real and lasting solutions, not temporary ones that create new problems.
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