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0 Subject: Mozizlla's "Firefox" browser

Posted by: sarge33rd
- [321037918] Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 07:40

CNN article on the official release.

Anyone here have experience with this? I am not in any way, a fan of Microssoft and would swap IE for Firefox in a heartbeat, if I believed it to be stable, fully functional etc etc.
1sarge33rd
      ID: 321037918
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 07:41
btw, we run Win2000 on kaaties PC and XP Pro on mine.
2biliruben
      ID: 599422311
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 09:53
I have been using it for 6 months without any significant problem. No pop-ups and many fewer security issues, as most nasties are written for IE.
3sarge33rd
      ID: 321037918
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 11:10
thanks bili. Thats exactly the kind of feedback I'm looking for. Either favorable or not in evaluating the use/performance of the Firefox browser.
4Dr. Doom
      ID: 2094715
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 11:20
I use Firefox, not exclusively yet, but have not encountered any real problems so far.

The tab feature is nice, but my computer at home is old (Win2K OS) and sometimes the multiple tabs take a bit to refresh when the browser has been minimized for a while.

At the office I have XP, no problems here.

I also use Mozilla Thunderbird for email.
5Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 11:23
Does anybody know how to get a new tab everytime you click a link? I don't want to right click to get it. Just a regular left click and have a new tab open.

I fell in love with that option on myIE2 and its not something I want to give up.
6biliruben
      ID: 599422311
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 11:40
There is a tab extension you can download, where the number of options is a bit overwhelming. I am sure your request is one of them, farn.
7James K Polk
      ID: 151035917
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 11:45
Ctrl+left click to open links in a new tab.
8MadDOG
      ID: 401059923
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 11:47
For me the main problem with any Mozilla browser is that they don't work with every website.

9Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 11:52
bili, where can i download these extra options? I don't see it.
10MadDOG
      ID: 3110261011
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 12:30
If you haven't already, check out this browser.


Fast, fast, fast. Faster than firefox that's for sure. I hate that little delay that firefox has before the page loads.




Avant Browser
11youngroman
      ID: 298482214
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 13:40
I'm using Opera and it works fine for 99% of the web-sites. the 1% comes from some Lotus Domino servers we have at work.

Avant Browser is nothing special, it uses the same core as IE with the same loading mechanism. when I read it correct a lot of the features that Avant Browser has are now also implemented with XP Service Pack 2.

I hate that huge delay that IE/Avant has when the page loads. I also can't see in IE/Avant what is really going on when the site does not load fast enough. Using Opera I notice that the slowest servers on the net are those that deliver ads.
And the best thing about Opera: no damn sites that can set bookmarks, toolbars and all that other scrap and no security issues.
12MadDOG
      ID: 3110261011
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 13:45
Avant browser seems alot faster than Explorer to me.

Matter of fact, I have tried them all Maxthon (formerly MYIE2), Firefox, Netscape, Slimbrowser you name it. Avant browser pages snap right up most of the time.
13SI_West
      ID: 09241311
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 13:51
I've been using Firefox for about a year now (the beta came out along time ago) and I've found its the best by far. I've never had any problems as far as freezing or crashing, no pop ups, no virus's. no bookmarks get set, no banners, etc etc. It's got a lot of cool features that you can customize and the tabbed browsing is definitely a plus for doing fantasy research. The one negative I've noticed is that its a bit of a memory hog (about 38K), the strange thing is though that it doesnt matter how many tabs you have open it always stays in that 36-46 range. Not really a big unless your using an older computer.
14biliruben
      ID: 441182916
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 14:12
Tabbed Browsing Extensions

I haven't downloaded either of these, but my guess is that the second one has what you want, Farn.
15Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 14:18
big fan of the mozilla browser here.

i wouldn't dump IE though, as not all sites work with Mozilla.
16biliruben
      ID: 441182916
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 15:21
Is it even possible to dump IE? I can't remember how that trial came out.

Anyway, I haven't opened IE in weeks. The worst that using firefox makes me do is open a link in a new browser and a few formatting issues.
17Tosh
      Sustainer
      ID: 057721710
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 15:38
What is IE? I use it at work, but it never gets opened at home.

What are ads (pop-up or banner)? Since installing and configuring Firefox Adblock, I have almost forgotten what an ad looks like!

The best thing about Firefox? ... nobody here at work knows anything about it, and if the bosses decided to get nosy and look at my internet browsing history, it would show nothing but work-related stuff. :-)
18biliruben
      ID: 441182916
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 15:41
Did you get any closer to town with this job, Tosh?
19Tosh
      Sustainer
      ID: 057721710
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 16:43
Yup ... back on Vashon. Heading to Seattle tonight for one last fantasy hoops auction ... first time I've left the island since the Mariners season ended.

I find that a number of my favorite extensions are not currently compatible with release 1.0. Hopefully soon, as I miss my gmail notifier.
20biliruben
      ID: 3110231016
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 17:34
Still playing Gilligan, huh? ;)

I've gone north myself, though I am coming downtown for some actual hoops action tonight. Those surprising Sonics. When will the 10 game losing streak start, I wonder?
21sarge33rd
      ID: 321037918
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 19:13
thanks to all for the replies. Looks like I'll probably be downloading and installing Firefox before too many more days go by.
22culdeus
      ID: 119141810
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 19:56
I have LOVED it since installing it about a month ago. I would leave IE, somethings don't work great in firefox yet, but they are rare. Some financial sites don't authenticate me on firefox for some reason.
23C.SuperFreak
      ID: 371015617
      Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 23:08
A truly timely thread. Just don't install it on company equipment.

Today I received a support call regarding a web browser/website issue. Turns out this guy couldn't get to one of our websites and was complaining about how it's affecting his work. Well after running a ton of tests back and forth to his pc and then trying to emulate the problem with no success on our 'gold' PC's (gold - because they contain an untampered corporate image and are used for testing purposes). Eventually we discovered that he had a couple of cute add-ons that are incompatible with a website.

Thus, if you use in-house web applications use caution when installing untested browsers or add-ons. A lot of in-house software hasn't been tested against this new software and it could interrupt daily activities. In some situations legacy applications have little or no funding for upgrades.

Basically, by installing applets, add-ons, or software that is not corporate standard you could be costing your company thousands of dollars for unneeded support.

If you have installed cute apps, and add-ons on your work PC this year, and have called a support line to cut a ticket. You might be costing yourself a holiday bonus.

Since I don't use my home PC for work. I will definately test it out :)
24culdeus
      ID: 409551717
      Thu, Nov 11, 2004, 22:55
hee hee

Nice feature, hit cntrl+Q at the same time.

hee hee

25sarge33rd
      ID: 321037918
      Fri, Nov 12, 2004, 00:32
downloaded and dinstalled it today. Gotta admit I LIKE this tab function vs opening more and more browser windows.
26Rendle
      Donor
      ID: 014815714
      Fri, Nov 12, 2004, 01:04
I could never use the gurupatron sort functions while using mozila. Does anyone know if there's something I need to do for this? I have tried resetting my ID but that doesn't do anything. Thanks for the help.
27sarge33rd
      ID: 321037918
      Fri, Nov 12, 2004, 14:53
timely review on firefox by ZDNET;

ZDNET review/download site for Mozilla's Firefox browser
28MadDOG
      ID: 210332319
      Tue, Nov 23, 2004, 20:56
I downloaded that tabbed browsing extension but I still can't get it to work for my "links" toolbar.

It works for the address bar but it doesn't work for all the links on the current webpage either.

How can a browser that is supposed to be so good leave out such an important feature as being able to open up a new tab instead of a new window?

I won't use it because of this.
29sarge33rd
      ID: 491051233
      Tue, Nov 23, 2004, 21:51
R-click and select "open new tab"
30MadDOG
      ID: 210332319
      Tue, Nov 23, 2004, 21:56
Sarge, the point is that with the other tabbed browsers you don't have to right click and click new tab.

With the other browsers such as Maxthon, Avant, Slimbrowser, whatever you click on, a new tab opens not a new window.

Nobody wants new windows. It's so much easier to surf with tabs.

And I can't believe these people building Firefox don't realize that. It's so obvious.
31MadDOG
      ID: 210332319
      Tue, Nov 23, 2004, 21:59
When you open alot of windows at the same time, this small thing makes a big difference.

I was using Firefox and somehow I had like 5 or 6 windows open with a few tabs open in each one. Forget it. It's too confusing.

32Tree
      ID: 510231619
      Tue, Nov 23, 2004, 22:06
Sarge, the point is that with the other tabbed browsers you don't have to right click and click new tab.

With the other browsers such as Maxthon, Avant, Slimbrowser, whatever you click on, a new tab opens not a new window.

Nobody wants new windows. It's so much easier to surf with tabs.


1. since when is right-click so difficult?

2. sometimes, i want new windows. so i can alt-tab between them.
33MadDOG
      ID: 210332319
      Tue, Nov 23, 2004, 22:08
I don't know why you would want to use 2 or 3 clicks and have to hold down 1 key and press another when you can do everything with 1 click.
34MadDOG
      ID: 210332319
      Tue, Nov 23, 2004, 22:11
Right click is so difficult because you have to remember to do it everytime you click on something.

It's a pain in the ass.
35James K Polk
      ID: 51010719
      Tue, Nov 23, 2004, 22:23
The Magpie extension at the same link in biliruben 14 is really nice too. Lets you do stuff like pick a media type, then hit ctrl+shift+S to download every link to that media type on the page you're on.

Warning, don't go here to test this out like I did ... 60-some mp3 links tied up my bandwidth for a while ;) But still a very cool function.
36Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Wed, Nov 24, 2004, 01:51
Been using the tabbed function in Netscape since they first put it in. I hate going to IE and having to open up new windows instead of tabs. Pain in the ass.
37biliruben
      ID: 500432513
      Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 16:11
Has anyone had trouble accessing comcast.net using Firefox 1.0?
38Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 16:25
Works fine for me.

Note that Firefox 1.02 is now available as an upgrade.
39biliruben
      ID: 500432513
      Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 18:05
Hmmm... It just perpetually flashes between "waiting..." and "connected..."

Bizarre.

Works fine on Bill, the Devil's software, btw.

I'm a wee bit nervious about hitting that up arrow, because last time I did, I crashed it and had to completely re-install the sucker (which admittedly isn't all that much work). Anyway I'll give 'er a try.
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