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0 Subject: RotoGuru access problem

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Sun, Oct 03, 2004, 17:34

I got an email from Nerveclinic today. Evidently, he has been unable to access the RotoGuru site for about 4 days straight. He can't get to any of the rotoguru domains, nor can he access any page by using the rotoguru IP address instead of the domain name. Any attempt to get to any part of the RotoGuru site simply times out.

I'm pretty much stumped on this. Any ideas I can pass along?
1Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 03, 2004, 17:38
It turns out that Mike D also cannot access the site from home, but he can from work.

I also got an email from someone else a few days ago who was having a similar problem

Does this sound like there may simply be a network problem at some remote node that is only affecting a few people? I recall a similar issue that affected a lot of easterners' ability to access the Yahoo fantasy sports site sometime during the summer.

2Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 03, 2004, 17:42
This thread dealt with that earlier problem I mentioned. I have no idea if the current problem is similar or not.
3Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 08:52
Man this is frustrating! I'm gonna check out that other thread (thanks for the link). The amount of time I put in this weekend just to try and regain access to 1 site.....figures the only site I can't access HAS to be my favorite site! I also can't access anything Rotoguru at all, not just the message forums. I'll be working on it again tonight!
4PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 11:01
Yeah before I think it was a Comcast - Yahoo issue or something.
5Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 11:05
I do have comcast.....
6Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 11:36
There is a comcast user forum that you should check out. That's where I discovered that my earlier problem wasn't just local to me. I did a quick scan of the topics, however, and don't see anything obvious.

Nerveclinic uses Adelphia, so unfortunately this doesn't sound like it is an ISP-specific issue.

You might try to access cihost.com, to see if that also is a problem. It probably gets routed through the same path. You could also try running a tracert to see if you can figure out where the process is breaking down.

To run a tracert, open up a dos window and type:
tracert domain.com

7Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 11:44
I'll try anything tonight. Anything I haven't done yet, that is......thanks Guru.
8Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 11:56
If you use a router at home, you could try removing it to see if that has any impact.
9Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 11:59
Good idea. I am using one. I've unplugged, researched the settings, etc.......
10Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 05, 2004, 13:44
Today I learned that Mike V lost contact with RotoGuru starting on Sunday. At this pace, I'll have no more users by next baseball season!

Overall traffic does not appear to be low, especially considering that baseball is over football traffic is usually lower than the other sports. So I don't think this is a widespread issue. I'm going to report it to my hosting service to see if they can suggest anything, even though I have doubts that it is directly related to my servers.
11Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, Oct 05, 2004, 14:19
FWIW, I tried cihost.com and was not able to connect. I've gone over my router settings, reset the router, unplugged the router and modem, reinstalled protocol, and done several dos based tests. I frequented the comcast forums, microsoft forums, microsoft knowledge base, linksys (router), netgear, google, etc..

With everything else working fine on my system, I'm bewildered. But I'll keep on it whenever I have time to in the evenings.
12youngroman
      ID: 298482214
      Tue, Oct 05, 2004, 14:44
as long as the problem exists, you can try to access the rotoguru-servers over a web-proxy like guardster.com
13Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, Oct 05, 2004, 14:46
I'll try it tonight, yr.
14Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Wed, Oct 06, 2004, 08:35
Well, I forgot to pull that site you recommended out of Rotoguru, and therefore couldn't access it last night. I'm e-mailing it home.......interested to see if it works. I think my router is struggling, as I've noticed some other signs. May end up replacing it.
15blackjackis21
      Leader
      ID: 034837521
      Wed, Oct 06, 2004, 10:23
Anyone have any problems with rotoworld? I can't access it at work - seems to be the single one site I can't get.
16Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Wed, Oct 06, 2004, 10:33
Fine for me at home and work.
17Pacers Rule
      Donor
      ID: 910311210
      Wed, Oct 06, 2004, 22:35
BJis21-
Sounds like your system administrator is on to you. Better buy him some donuts.
18blackjackis21
      Leader
      ID: 34837521
      Wed, Oct 06, 2004, 23:45
Pacers - not a bad idea. But no, I know it's not that. I suppose I'll have to finally break down and go with a rotowire subscription.
19Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Thu, Oct 07, 2004, 08:10
guardster.com worked for me at home last night (thanks youngroman). I didn't have time to try and post, but I was able to view all of Rotoguru including the boards. Better than no access for sure.
20Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 22:45
I ended up cloning my MAC address in my router settings and it seems to have fixed my connection issues. I don't recall if I ever did that before, or whether I had done it and the settings were somehow lost. Regardless, that was the tweak that is (so far) working. Any other Comcast users out there, I definitely recommened doing it.

Guru, regarding prior threads, I never changed the MTU on the Router either. I was hoping to leave that untouched if possible.
21TB
      Leader
      ID: 031811922
      Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 18:44
I have a new job location. When I try to access Rotoguru from work, a Websense proxy block page comes up. I tried to access through guardster.com with no luck. Any other ideas would be appreciated. It is very tough to go all day without checking in to the forum.

I can access yahoo, but not yahoo fantasy football. I can access fanball exit 42, but not fanball commissioner.
22TB
      Leader
      ID: 031811922
      Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 18:45
I should have mentioned that when I try to go to guardster.com, the Websense screen also comes up telling me that site is blocked.
23youngroman
      ID: 298482214
      Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 18:53
here under 4.5 are some other web-proxy links
24Mike D
      ID: 159581516
      Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 18:58
TB, sounds like the network administer restricted them, and I can relate to that. Other than YRs ideas, by the administrator a case of beer. ;)

25TB
      Leader
      ID: 031811922
      Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 19:06
I hope our local IMO/administrator can make the changes. We have some history so I might be able to get him to hook me up. If not, I guess I will just have to spend less time at work. =)

YR, I am going to try to access through those links when I head back to work next week. Thanks.
26youngroman
      ID: 9954189
      Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 11:54
since today I have also the problem accessing Rotoguru from work. one minute it works - one minute it does not work.

with guardster.com it works always.

very interesting. could this really be a router-issue somewhere in the www? I have no chance to do a traceroute because of proxies and firewalls between my work-computer and the internet. this would give me more details.
27Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 11:58
I sent my original trace results to Guru. I may have kept copies though.......the weird thing on my end is that after cloning the MAC address, my network has been negatively affected. It's almost like "do I want to have easy rotoguru access, or lose my network of 3 computers?" To make matters more interesting, I noticed on one computer this morning that the "network" was communicating fine, Outlook could be used, but no Internet pages would display. Back to the drawing board I guess.
28Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:50
At about the same time as your post, yr, there was evidently a denial of service attack going on at one of my hosting service's networks. Perhaps that was the source of your difficulty?

Supposedly, that has been resolved.
29DMAN
      ID: 59111818
      Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 20:11
TB - try using these to access rotoguru.com

rotoguru.com - http://63.249.215.186/
Forums - http://66.221.169.119/cgi-bin/view.pl

Websense blocks webpages using the DNS names, not IP Addresses.
30youngroman
      ID: 221118186
      Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 05:24
Guru - currently it works from work. yesterday I had the problem not only once. I tried a few times and sometimes it was ok and sometimes not. could have also been a matter of a few seconds because after post 26 I had no problem without guardster.

DMAN - thanks for the IPs. if the problem re-occurs I'll try these. then I know if it is a DNS-issue somewhere or not.
31TB
      Leader
      ID: 031811922
      Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 21:33
Dman, you are Da Man! Took me a while to give this a try, but it works. Thanks.
32Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 21:55
So now you can deal me LT? Oh, wrong thread.... ;)
33TB
      Leader
      ID: 031811922
      Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 22:03
LOL, I read that and jumped over to yahoo to see if I missed some kind of blockbuster offer.
34Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 22:04
MUHAHA! I'm gonna go check too!
35Great One
      ID: 551038246
      Mon, Dec 06, 2004, 19:22
I am extremely blocked at work and its killing me.

I am trying all that in post 23 and Dman's IP Addy's when I go back to work thursday.

Hope some of that works. I just discovered AIMExpress last week too and now lost that too! Wish I never knew it existed.

36Great One
      ID: 551038246
      Thu, Jan 20, 2005, 20:30
stuck behind a wall again... and websense has nailed all those web based browsers too.

thank god for the IP thing Dman had for rotoguru so at least I can read whats going.

how do you go about getting those? like I wanted to get one for the aim express site... I would just go there and do what to get the IP?
37Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Jan 21, 2005, 10:03
Simplest way to discover an IP address is to open a command prompt (it's probably a program option under Programs->Accessories) and then type:

ping [domain name]

For example, if I type ping rotoguru1.com, the first line of reply is

Pinging rotoguru1.com [66.221.169.119] with 32 bytes of data:

The IP address is the set of four numbers in brackets.

You could them try replacing the domain name with the IP address when you type a URL. This will not always work, though. I'd be surprised if you were able to get AIM express to work that way. (But you can certainly try.)




38Great One
      ID: 460122118
      Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 23:45
Thanks for the tip, at least I can read some other sites though even if i can't run a utility or whatever...

You know whats hilarious?! I was trying to get lines for the football games and just googled it, and Covers.com is NOT blocked - but all of these other random sites are (like rotoguru and tsn)... ridiculous.
39C.SuperFreak
      ID: 39053520
      Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 00:38
check to see if you have a proxy set in your browser. If you have a proxy then do the following:

in explorer perform the following
tools/internet options/
connections tab
Lan Settings button
If proxy server box is checked select the advanced button

in the exceptions box type in:

*rotoguru1.com;*rotoguru.com;63.249.215.186;

select ok.

or you could try and insert the address in the hosts file on your pc:

63.249.215.186 rotoguru.com
40 Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Jul 22, 2005, 07:43
We just got nailed with a Websense block on Yahoo! Fantasy Sports at work... any ideas? This is really aggravating me to no end.
41Great One
      ID: 376372516
      Fri, Jul 29, 2005, 15:46
I was so close using a webpage translator... thought everything through - even translated the Yahoo page from Spanish to English which was brilliant (instead of trying to read Spanish as was suggested to me)... it all worked but since the Yahoo requires a login for team detail I couldn't get it to login or read my cookies without it taking over the entire page to do so and promptly getting blocked again.

BUT - for any sites you just wanna read and (don't specifically need to be logged into) without being blocked I reccomend this idea.

Anyone been able to circumvent Websense short of bribing the Tech guys? My boss (who still has many bosses above him unfortunately) is even a little annoyed cause he plays and was trying to use the idea that these leagues foster "team morale"... its a shot anyway!
42Great One
      ID: 01242016
      Mon, Feb 20, 2006, 22:02
anyone think this would really work?
buzz surf
43youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Tue, Feb 21, 2006, 03:57
Great One - this will work. the explanation of what to do is very good. all you need at work is:
(1) the right to execute a new program (putty) on your computer (some admins restict this)
(2) the right to change connection settings in your browser (IE may be tricky because admins can forbid non-admin users to change them)
44Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Feb 21, 2006, 07:37
I think #2 is the problem, cause they don't let us have privilege to change anything.
45youngroman
      ID: 50818914
      Tue, Feb 21, 2006, 07:56
at work I am also not allowed to change the connection settings (including proxy) through IE. but I am a local admin and can edit these values in the registry.

what if you use a different browser (Firefox, Opera)? could that be the solution. I don't think that you can forbid to change proxy-settings there. if you are not allowed to install Firefox/Opera, try to install it on a different machine (@home) and copy the folder where you installed it to your work machine.
46TB
      ID: 232332923
      Thu, Mar 30, 2006, 00:38
Big Brother is messing with me at work again. Post #29 has been working great, but now this is coming up:

Your organization's Internet use policy restricts access to this web page at this time.

Reason:
The Websense category "Games" is filtered.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
URL:
http://66.221.169.119/cgi-bin/view.pl


47sarge33rd
      ID: 2511422414
      Fri, Mar 31, 2006, 21:57
Had the same screening software and same result with a recent employer. I found no way around it. :(
48TB
      ID: 726298
      Fri, Mar 31, 2006, 22:40
I found a way around it today.

Proxy Settings in Internet Explorer 6.X
Click "Service" \ "Internet Options";
Click "Connections";
If you use Dial-Up connection, choose your connection and click "Settings" button.
if you use LAN connection, click "LAN Settings" button in the "Local Area Network (LAN) Settings" group box;
Enable "use a proxy server";
In fields "Address" and "port", type proxy name and proxy port number;
If nessesary, enable "bypass proxy server for local addresses";
Click "OK";
Click "OK" to close IE settings.

Originally, I was going to use my home PC as the proxy server. I found a site that had a list and chose to try it instead. It worked. Anyone who is familiar with checking IP's can look in the test forum and see that I was posting from India today...woohoo. I don't know what I will do if my job ever changes it to where I can't change intenet options, with websense now blocking dns names and IP addresses.
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