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Subject: RIFC - Qualifying League
Posted by: dgrooves
- [513181020] Fri, Jul 09, 2004, 19:55
Im starting [one of] the RIFC Qualifying league[s]. Ive just created a league on Yahoo, but I figure we can set up all the parameters once we fill the league. Id prefer 12 or maybe 14 teams, so post in this thread if you're interested.
For the draft, I plan on creating a Survior league over at Xpert Leagues. The draft will be automated, we dont have to worry about agreeing on one of Yahoo's limited number of draft windows, and we get a free Survivor league out of it. |
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| 155 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 40612721
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 02:19
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All I know is a slow draft is going to take awhile. We need to get moving, don't we?
THK
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| 156 | Bandos
ID: 466213116
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 08:43
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I got an invite and joined youngromans Yahoo league.
When's the draft start?
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| 157 | holt
ID: 497552
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 09:16
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I'd like to play in the same league that bandos and youngroman are in. we're in the same ribc qualifier league - along with pops and doug.
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| 158 | Doug
ID: 57352917
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 14:05
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I'm going to officially declare the potential live draft league dead due to insufficient number of interested parties. Since both dgrooves and youngroman have volunteered to commish leagues, so I will gladly join one of theirs. I also sent emails back to the people who had expressed interest in the live draft to make sure they knew it wouldn't be happening.
dgrooves, is there any chance you will be hosting your league on the Fanball site? Is there any advantage to using a different site (like XPert)? Will you be using the same set of scoring rules as the main RIFC league, or are you planning to make adjustments? Thanks!
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| 159 | youngroman
ID: 59242611
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 14:16
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question: how many of you are willing to pay 5$ to use Xpert-Leagues or Fanball instead of Yahoo?
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| 160 | Doug
ID: 57352917
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 14:18
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I'm willing to pay for Fanball.
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| 161 | Art of Monk
ID: 32531249
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 14:41
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I am willing to go along with whatever, but would prefer yahoo. My money leagues start adding up.
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| 162 | WiddleAvi
ID: 5470911
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 14:45
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Like Art Of Monk - I would go along but also prefer Yahoo because I spend enough money on other leagues.
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| 163 | wazaaap_guy
ID: 3959822
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 14:50
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i'd prefer a free yahoo league.
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| 164 | Pops
ID: 526451614
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 17:10
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I would definitely prefer free, but if pay leagues are the only option avialable i'm still in.
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| 165 | Toral
ID: 296551812
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 17:27
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I'd prefer Yahoo!. It's free and I'm comfortable with it.
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| 166 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 17:40
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I'm willing to pay.
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| 167 | Hubble
ID: 40637100
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 17:59
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And me ! here is my e-mail
etienned@pretech.qc.ca
Pops, Doug, Bandos.. etc... These guys are good sport... Only one i don't want is Holt... he knows why :)
Hubble
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| 168 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 18:19
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I was wondering what that Yahoo invite was for! LMAO.
I'm cool with Yahoo OR Fanball - as a matter of fact I have an open Fanball team I haven't placed yet.
I guess I'll see you guys in youngroman's league.
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| 169 | dgrooves
ID: 513181020
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 18:35
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Well there doesnt seem to be an overwhelming interest in having a pay league, so I guess it will make sense for both leagues to be hosted at Yahoo.
Does anyone know a way around Yahoo's waiver wire system? I dont think any of us want to use what they've got in place (any player not dropped is first-come, first-served).
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| 170 | WiddleAvi
ID: 582361912
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 19:59
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For waiver wire I think there should be a thread here every week where everyone can place waiver requests and then based on record (or in case of tie, points) the waiver will be decided and that person can go ahead and make the claim on yahoo.
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| 171 | dgrooves
ID: 513181020
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 20:11
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As I said before, I dont have the free time anymore to administrate such a system.
In post 114, youngroman said he would be placing all the available players on waivers after the first game of the week. Ive never tried doing anything like that on Yahoo. Is it possible? Is it time-consuming?
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| 172 | Tree
ID: 176431421
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 20:52
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honestly, i think we're stuck with Yahoo's system.
i don't like the idea of posting waiver claims AT ALL. sometimes you see a gem, and maybe no one else will see him. you post it publically, and someone else can do research, and bang....
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| 173 | dgrooves
ID: 513181020
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 20:58
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I definately agree with that Tree.
I just realized that you werent on my last list of interested owners, so the head count should be 27. Sorry about that.
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| 174 | wolfer
Sustainer
ID: 18639422
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 21:18
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If you still need a 28th, I am game.
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| 175 | dwfffan
ID: 2746319
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 22:03
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I am game for $5. ( or whatever it takes )
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| 176 | Trip
Donor
ID: 13961611
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 22:44
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I would like to renew my interest in this league. I have three conditions. I do not want to use Yahoo! to host the league. The waiver claim issue is to great an issue to ignore. I do not pay to use Yahoo's live scoring service ($9.95), but if you use fanball, live scoring is included in the league fees(>$5). It is worth it. I will happily set up and co-commish a league using Fanball, I have a paypal account setup and can accept payments from the individual league members. I do not have the time at this point in my work/social life to do justice to any kind of draft commentary. If this is a requirement of the league, I cannot oblige. I can make an attempt but it may be lame, especially due to the fact that I am not too familiar with using IDP's in a league, the strategies which involve their use, and my workload is double for the next month. This was one of the funnest parts of my participation in the RIBC but I do not have the time at the moment to contribute to the degree which I would like. The last condition which I have is that this be a slow draft. Finally, there are 3 people already volunteering to commish a league. I will not move on unless one of these three people want to team up with me and use Fanball for their league.
Someone drop me a note.
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| 177 | Tree
ID: 176431421
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 22:53
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dgrooves - i think i'm confused. what league did i sign up for already on yahoo? wasn't that this Qualifying league?
maybe we need more than one thread?
and i'm not interesting in paying to play. why pay, when you can do it for free?
and personally, i don't get the big deal about the waiver wire issue..
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| 178 | dgrooves
ID: 513181020
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 22:58
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I dont know what league you signed up for. We should probably have more than one thread, but it may make sense to sort out the league hosting issues first. Then we can have a thread per league.
Most who play a league at Yahoo agree their waiver wire system is garbage. After the draft, and for the rest of the season, anyone who isnt dropped from a team is always a free agent. This means that the first person to get to their computer will get the A. Boldin's, R. Johnson's, and D. Davis' of this year. I dont think anyone would (or could) make the argument that this is a good or fair system.
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| 179 | Bags @ work
ID: 4675419
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 23:45
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dgrooves, is it to late to throw my name in for a spot. I am can go the free or the pay route.
No word on the Hardcore keeper league? I see a few of the HKL guys over here and would like to play again.
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| 180 | art of monk
ID: 59610240
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 00:43
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I think we can work out the waiver wire thing. I commished a hoop league and I had the power to remove players from an owners team. I could lock players from making FA pickups. Just make a rule that no FA pickups until Weds. If an owner wants a player post on league website on Tues. and then pickups are made weds based on priority. After Thurs. FA pickups are free game.
Paying for site. I am still whatever. I am commishing another league and might be moving to fanball.
Several owners here are also involved in the HCKL. Which might need some new owners, I say we boot owners if we don't hear from owners by 15th and get replacements. Move it to yahoo or fanball.
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| 181 | Matt S
ID: 34945140
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 00:50
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Count me in also. I'd prefer the status quo with a free yahoo league...
Matt S
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| 182 | LiLPeeper
ID: 12723100
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 01:26
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interested in playing if u still have room...
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| 183 | dgrooves
ID: 513181020
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 08:27
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Here's the updated list of interested managers:
dgrooves
Peter N.
TarheelKid
wiggs
kev
Doug
WiddleAvi
dwfffan
youngroman
Tree
Baldwin
Toral
loki
Pops
holt
Twarpy
beastiemiked
Art of Monk
Slowhand
Species
Bonka
wazaaap_guy
The Beezer
Da Bomb
Pancho Villa
Bandos
Hubble
wolfer
Bags
Matt S
LiLPeeper
That makes 31. Perhaps Guru should decide who the 3 are that must wait for a 3rd league to start up? Although there are a few names I dont really recognize, I certainly wouldnt feel comfortable saying who is and isnt in the first 2 qualifying leagues.
If someone would like to team up with Trip to commish a league on Fanball, I'll step aside as commish of one of the league. In that case, I would also be willing to chip in the 5 or so dollars to play in that league.
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| 184 | WiddleAvi
ID: 5470911
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 10:38
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youngroman - Well we now have 14 people in the Yahoo league. We should probably go ahead and figure out the draft order and then get started drafting being thats it's a slow draft. How many rounds are we going ?? What are the final position requirements ??
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| 185 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 11:04
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i guess it was young roman's league i was invited into... - is that a qualifying league? i figured it was this league. lol..help!
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| 186 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 11:37
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Also, about leaving people out. I'd say a first come, first serve basis. Only fair way to do it.
I just tried creating a list of who seems to be willing to pay for a Fanball/Xpert and I've come up with the following:
BoNkA
Trip
dwfffan
Species
Pops
WiddleAvi
Doug
The Breezer
Now I'm not saying that's right, some of those guys might not want to and then there might be some not listed that are willing to pay. Just what I got from skimming the last couple of posts. If it is right, however, we have 8 people and would need 6 more to set up a league.
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| 187 | WiddleAvi
ID: 4356159
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 11:40
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Bonka - I already joined youngroman's yahoo league so unless that is being switched over......
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| 188 | Baldwin
ID: 53631254
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 11:54
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I received an invite to the you_roman's Custom League in Yahoo. Is that related to the league being discussed in this thread?
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| 189 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 12:04
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I too have assumed you_roman's league is this RIFC Qualifying League.
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| 190 | holt
ID: 497552
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 12:06
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crap! the yahoo league is already full? this thread is just too huge. I've been trying to keep up with this but I still wasn't aware that an actual league was in place at yahoo.
I saw a yahoo football e-mail but figured it was just junk-mail and ignored it. damn it.
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| 191 | Pops
ID: 526451614
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 12:22
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I don't want to begin the complaining here but I thought Youngroman's league had temporarily been shelved as he was going to step aside in favor of dgrooves.
I realize I will still be able to play in a league, but as per my stated preference, the free league is/was definitely more desireable.
Sadly (w/ some of the back and forth that took place earlier), i've read every post on this thread since it's inception, so I would really not like to be left out of a Yahoo league at this point.
If we are keeping it how it is however, I understand...looks like I just missed the boat.
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| 192 | holt
ID: 497552
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 12:37
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yeah - I'm not real happy about this. been following this thread for almost a month, but somehow I missed the boat too.
I went back through this thread and found youngroman's announcement that he started a league, but now I remember blowing it off until further notice for the same reason that pops mentioned.
didn't know there was gonna be some kind of race to go sign up. what's the point of even creating the league before the draft is done?
thanks for sending out more than 14 invites to a 14 team league!!!
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| 193 | Toral
ID: 296551812
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 12:48
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See post 114.
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| 194 | beastiemiked
Sustainer
ID: 03531815
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 12:53
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I didn't get in either holt. I'd like to still play in a qualifying league but I'm not going to pay for one when Yahoo will work.
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| 195 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 12:57
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If an "Official" RIFC Qualifier League is opened on Fanball, I will be happy to bequeath my spot in youngroman's Yahoo league to someone else. I have one more Fanball team available to place in a league so I'm not out a red cent (that I haven't spent already! lol)
Sadly, the bidding for that spot starts at a dollar more than the cost of Fanball ;-)
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| 196 | WiddleAvi
ID: 5470911
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 13:03
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If we are at 31 managers then if we get one more then just create one more yahoo league and make each one 16 teams. Either way it's not a big deal to create another yahoo league.
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| 197 | holt
ID: 497552
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 13:16
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I also won't be paying.
toral - I've seen post 114, but read all the posts after it. further down in the thread youngroman was still discussing the possibility of using something other than yahoo, and dgrooves was still posting full lists of everyone interested in playing, so it appeared that things were still in the planning stage. it's no wonder that some of us didn't take post 114 seriously.
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| 198 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 13:24
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i think this thread needs to end, and a new one needs to begin.
i may have to drop out of young roman's league, after reading post 114...i am out of town from aug. 20 to 22, so i wont be available to draft.
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| 199 | Toral
ID: 296551812
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 13:35
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I get it holt. I too have been somewhat confused as to what is going on in this thread. From my experience in commishing RQL#1 in baseball, though, my experience is that the early bird gets the worm, in the sense of whoever wants to commish and describes a coherent scoring system and plans, sets up the league, and sends out invites -- gets to do it. (And whoever responds in a timely way gets to be in it.) No affront meant to dgrooves, who is just trying to proceed in an orderly and fair manner, I think, (Heck, who knows, I might switch to his league if I can) but in a confused situation the best way to move from disorder to order is taking the initiative.
Toral
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| 200 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 14:57
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Well what NEEDS to be done is a final decision on whether or not we will have a Fanball league or not. We might have enough guys to put one together, some of which are in youngroman's yahoo league (like myself), so it would open up slots for others to join. I just really do not want to do a draft in the forums, at least a slow draft in Fanball, you have more information like who's left, can trade picks, etc.
We have to figure this out by tomorrow because we're running out of time. I think anyone who is 100% sure they are willing to help pay for a Fanball (or Xpert) league should post now saying so, so we can get a real count.
I will start in saying I will pay to play in a Fanball league.
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| 201 | Bags
ID: 13312922
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 15:03
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I would help pay to play in a Fanball league.
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| 202 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 15:08
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I can do a Fanball league, which would open a spot in youngroman's league.
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| 203 | Baldwin
ID: 53631254
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 15:09
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I REALLY want in a yahoo league instead of any other provider. If there is any way to accomodate me...
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| 204 | Peter N.
Donor
ID: 257161713
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 17:25
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I can do fanball. I think we need to try and mimic RIFC as close as possible. Might as well use the same website they are using!
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