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0 Subject: Winslow injured again

Posted by: wiggs
- [52430212] Mon, May 02, 2005, 13:31

winslow in motorcycle accident
1Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Mon, May 02, 2005, 13:36
His career may end before it starts. I feel slightly sorry for him, but on the other hand I never liked him to begin with. Miami Hurricanes are only slightly higher than Auburn Tigers on my list of most disliked folks.

It's a hell of a lot of potential to go to waste. Hopefully he's ok. Look forward to seeing how good he is against the "soldiers" in the NFL.
2KrazyKoalaBears
      Leader
      ID: 517553018
      Mon, May 02, 2005, 16:10
MC, whatcha got against Auburn Tigers? Geez, we're tame compared to Miami... well, unless we're facing Alabama.

As for Winslow, I don't feel a bit sorry for him. Driving 35 MPH in a parking lot? He seems to think he's invincible (goes right up there with "it's war out there!") and he's finding out that he's not... the hard way. Plus, the story said he was evasive about what his injuries were, which to me says he probably knew what he was doing was wrong.
3Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Mon, May 02, 2005, 16:27
KKB, I'm a Gator living in Auburn/FSU country. You get sick of it.
4Bond, James Bond
      ID: 47341257
      Mon, May 02, 2005, 21:15
KKB, I'm a Gator living in Auburn/FSU country. You get sick of it.

Uh, move! LOL
5Motley Crue
      ID: 213222620
      Mon, May 02, 2005, 22:57
Wow, are you the real James Bond?
6Bond, James Bond
      ID: 47341257
      Tue, May 03, 2005, 00:10
As much as you're the real Motley Crue!
7TB
      Leader
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, May 03, 2005, 00:14
Yeah, but how about as much as KrazyKoalaBears is a Krazy Koala Bear?
8Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Tue, May 03, 2005, 08:25
Shut up.
9Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, May 03, 2005, 08:47
I'm really Mike D. And I think Winslow is acting like a young, immature dude. Except because of who he is, he makes headlines. He must not have the right "peeps" in place to watch over him.
10Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Tue, May 03, 2005, 09:01
From ProFootballTalk.com:

WINSLOW TO LOSE MORE THAN $9 MILLION?

Setting aside for now the question of whether Browns tight end "Evel Kellenievel" Winslow should have been riding a motorcycle as he still rehabs from a broken leg that scuttled his 2004 rookie season (and prevented him from earning a big-money bonus payment by failing to participate in 30 percent of the team's offensive snaps), we've gotten a look-see at Winslow's contract, which indicates that he shouldn't have been riding a motorcycle at all. Ever. Period.

As a general matter, Winslow has breached Paragraph 3 of his contract, which prevents him from "engag[ing] in any activity other than football which may involve a significant risk of personal injury."

And this breach could have significant consequences. Winslow's motorcycling allows the team (if it so chooses) to recover $5 million of his initial signing bonus and the full $4.4125 million of his option bonus triggered at the outset of the 2005 league year, $2.4125 million of which won't actually be paid to Winslow until July 15.

So the total potential price tag on Winslow's deliberate failure to comply with the terms of his contract is a whopping $9.4125 million.

Under the contract, Winslow becomes potentially responsible to pay back the bonus money due to "injury as a result of a breach of Paragraph 3 of the Contract" or "as a result of participation in hazardous activities which involve a significant risk of personal injury and are non-football in nature, including but not limited to skydiving, hang gliding, mountain climbing, auto racing, motorcycling, scuba diving, or skiing." (Emphasis added.)

The bottom line is that, under the terms of Winslow's deal, getting injured while motorcycling is no different that walking away from his contractual obligations, a la Ricky Williams did nearly a year ago.

In either case, the club can recover bonus money.

And in Winslow's case, he could end up forking over more than $9 million.

The bigger question is whether the Browns should make a grab for Winslow's $9 million. Since the guy that drafted Winslow is long gone and given that we can't imagine Winslow and 2005 first-round pick Braylon Edwards co-existing in the same conference much less in the same locker room, we think the Browns should send Winslow a bill for $9.4125 million, and then let nature take its course.

If nothing else, such a move could help the Browns recoup a major chunk of Butch Davis' buyout.
11Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Tue, May 03, 2005, 09:02
Can he give the motorcycle back?
12KrazyKoalaBears
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      ID: 517553018
      Tue, May 03, 2005, 10:09
In addition to that $9M in question, there are $2M and $3M "escalators" in his contract (heard on the radio this morning) should he meet certain levels of play that it seems he'll be unlikely to do when you combine his time missed last season with any potential time missed this season. I hope that parking lot daredevil motorcycle ride was worth all the $14M he could stand to lose out on.

What a moron.
13KrazyKoalaBears
      Leader
      ID: 517553018
      Tue, May 03, 2005, 10:09
Oh, and yes, I am quite the Krazy Koala Bear.

;)
14superclydes
      ID: 36371321
      Wed, May 04, 2005, 00:10
Reminds me of Aaron Boone last season. Sounds like it might be pretty serious. Now if you were the Browns and he is out for the entire season, do you just cut your losses or hold faith that this was just him being young and dumb? I am guessing that it would depend on how serious the injury was, but a first round pick and two games in two years? Gotta make you think.

Winslow done for the year??
15Motley Crue
      ID: 52450513
      Fri, May 06, 2005, 16:13
Disclaimer: Making fun of handicapped people is NOT funny.










Making fun of Kellen Winslow has certainly become more acceptable, however.

Source:
ProFootballTalk.com
16Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, May 06, 2005, 18:54
superclydes (14) wrote: but a first round pick and two games in two years

....and to add a little insult to the injury, didn't Cleveland give up a significant draft pick to move up one spot to get Winslow in the first place?

How sad.
17superclydes
      ID: 36371321
      Tue, May 10, 2005, 22:44
Not to worry he is A-OK!! Just ask him!! However, I don't think a 9 day stint in the hospital he didn't suffer some serious injuries!!

CLEVELAND -- Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. was released from the hospital Tuesday, nine days after a motorcycle accident left him with internal injuries and a damaged right knee.


Winslow walked out of the Cleveland Clinic on metal crutches, putting no weight on his right leg. He wore a Cleveland Browns T-shirt and sweat pants. He smiled and gave a thumbs up. When asked how he was feeling, he said "good." Winslow left in a sport utility vehicle.
18KrazyKoalaBears
      Leader
      ID: 517553018
      Thu, May 19, 2005, 18:34
Sources say Winslow tore his ACL; out for the year?

I love the last paragraph: A few hours before his accident, Winslow and a few friends drove 50 miles on their motorcycles to Canton to see a stunt riding team perform.

I can hear it now: "Hey guys, remember what that guy did at that stunt show? Well, watch THIS!"

Seriously, what a moron.
19superclydes
      ID: 36371321
      Thu, May 19, 2005, 20:12
ESPN confirms it, done for the year. I hope he didn't damage the bike too bad, he may have to sell it back to pay some money. You are correct. MORON.
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