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Subject: RIFC 2005: Draft Discussion
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 14:01
The clock will start on Friday morning. It will initially be set at 6 hours, with a moratorium from 11pm-7am EDT. If the clock expires, the next person in line will get to draft, and the skipped drafter will make up his skipped pick whenever he can. The clock will continue to run on weekends.
People at the endpoints of the draft have only one single time limit to make their consecutive picks.
We will maintain a draft discussion thread here, but it will probably not be used extensively. If you know that you have pending time constraints, please post them in this thread. (e.g., "I'll be away until 6pm ET, so if my pick is due before then, you'll have to wait.") To the extent that you can alert everyone to potential availability issues, you can help others to plan their check-in times accordingly. That's simply good draft etiquette.
If you know you will be away when your next pick is likely to be due, you can deputize another manager to make the pick for you. There is a way to do this in the Kafenatid software. You can also always email your pick queue to me in advance. (I am automatically allowed to enter a pick for anyone, so you don't need to deputize me.) As long as you put "RIFC queue" in the subject line, I'll promise not to peek inside if I have an intervening pick. Scout's honor.
I will attempt to update picks at the Fanball site daily, so that league managers can use that site's player tools to review the available pool. Be aware, however, that Fanball updates will typically be a partial round behind the actual draft.
When drafting, there is no need to draft every position. For example, if you want to skip a kicker, be my guest. However, the Fanball software will force you to fill each of the 12 active slots when you set your lineup for each game. You will not have the ability to leave an active slot blank, so plan your bench needs accordingly.
Rationales will be expected for each pick, but deleayed by two rounds. When we near the end of round two, I will set up a thread for those.
As a final caveat, I am on vacation during the first week of the draft. I do plan to keep up, checking in several times daily. But there will be times when I might not be as available as usual.
Sludge has until Friday at 1pm EDT to make the first pick. Any picks made prior to Friday morning are discretionary, and not timed. There is no need to get an early start - but feel free to do so, if you are so inclined.
I will set up a draft tracker program that is accessible to those outside the league. A link will be posted here shortly. |
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| 312 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:46
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gotta go..2 man queue sent to Dave and Cliff via kafenatid.
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| 313 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:48
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nevermind..pick made
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| 314 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:55
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Im around for 20 minutes if Cliff decided to pick.
If you guys make waves today, I will be home hopefully around 730 EST. I can't be leaving a 18 man que though...I will try and get my buddy to check in the afternoon to see the progress.
If Cliff doesnt pick, anyone around to take a very short que?
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| 315 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:58
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kev, I am around all day. Just make sure to make me a deisgnated picker.
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| 316 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:01
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My rationales will be posted immediately after my selections, so give me 10-15 minutes before jumping me with a placeholder. huuuhhhh?!!? Sounds like a Yogism (Sorry Sludge)
With a 6 hour clock, 10-15 minutes is immediately. It's a matter of perspective. Maybe I'm just too laid back for this group.
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| 317 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:02
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Or perhaps I should have said "composed" instead of "posted".
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| 318 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:22
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left my que for Guru. In a rush, and couldn't find legge's email.
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| 319 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:43
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Friday is still several days away, but it will be a difficult one for me with potential implications for the whole league.
On Friday, I'll be driving back from Ohio to Connecticut, and on the road from approx. 9am until 8pm. During that time, I will be reachable by cell phone, but I will have no internet connectivity.
I'll do my best to set up a queue in advance, although, depending on my position at the time I leave, I may need/want a phone call to confirm the intervening developments before authorizing the trigger-pulling. I'll also need to have someone who I can designate as an alternate picker for my team.
It also means I will not be available to take queues from anyone else on that day. If you have been relying on me for that, you will need to make alternate arrangements, including designating that person in advance at kafenatid, if necessary.
Obviously, a lot will happen between now and then. But since this will impact several of you - particularly those who rely on me as your backup - I thought an early alert was appropriate.
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| 320 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:56
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I will be here at the apartment building I manage tending to various tenant issues and what not, but I'm rarely away for more than an hour at a time, if that. So, I will be around and available all day to help out Guru and/or anyone else who needs to leave queues that day.
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| 321 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:57
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(The above applies not only for Friday but basically today through Friday)
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| 322 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:58
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Rationale:
6.04 Chris Chambers, WR, MIA
Like I said in my Crumpler rationale, if Chambers didn't fall to me here, I would of been upset with my drafting.
Through 5 rounds, I still didn't have a WR; it seemed like the WR's I targeted each round would go right before my pick, so, I just kept holding off. Well, I figured I needed to start with a solid WR by round 6: and took Chambers. He never has a good QB throwing him the ball, but he always puts up good numbers. In 2004, Chambers was good for 900 yds and 7 TD's, and he had no running game.
In 2003, when he had a running game, he put up 960 yards and 11 TD's. With the running game improved in 2005, I expect over 1000 yards and 10 TD's. Not bad for a 6th round pick.
Other people I debated on taking: Muhammed, Mason, Burress (who I got 20 picks later)
6th round thoughts:
Best Values: Jimmy Smith, Mason, Muhammed, and Chambers. All are the un-questioned, good #1 WR's for their teams and should not suffer too much just because of lack of solid QB's.
Biggest surprise: New England D at 6.03. I wasn't expecting them to go as the 1st defense off the board or go that early.
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| 323 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:59
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I'm around for queues.
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| 324 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:00
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I am going to need phone calls agin (ahem, DOug) this weekend, as I am going out of town for another draft. I should only be out of commision for 30 hours or so (9 am Sat through 2 pm Sun), but I am sure I will need to pick during this timeframe.
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| 325 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:34
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This year, I'll subdivide the rationale thread into 3 segments, 7 rounds apiece. When we approach the end of round 7, I'll start a new one for rounds 8-14.
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| 326 | Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 13:09
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6.03 New England, DEF
I tried to trade this pick as I had NE D targeted for a late 6th round pick. Undaunted by reaching a bit, I like a plug and play D as it frees up a roster spot. NE fits the bill. Hell, I would even start them against Indy. I knew that NE and BAL would be gone by 7.11 – these two are considerably above the pack of about 9 that are very similar. Bill is the master and the fan in me wanted to get doubly excited every time they stymied another opponent or forced Manning into 4 picks. I considered a WR and Suggs here. Was very happy that Suggs fell to me at 7.11.
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| 327 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 15:20
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Hope everything is cool with Goat. T-minus 90 mins. to our first timeout.
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| 328 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 15:44
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Got tied up in a meeting.
Sorry all, wasn't planned.
Cliff
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| 329 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 15:59
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I will be sending out a pretty substantail queue (through pick 10.04) tomorrow to my deisgnated pickers, as I will be on a business trip and will not have cpu access.
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| 330 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:06
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I have same similar problem as Dave .. but not only Friday..but also the following 6 days as I have home show in Dallas through Sunday..drive back to Austin Sunday night to catch an all day Monday flight to Tampa to attend meetings w/o probable internet ..return to Austin and computer access late Thursday night, September 1st. I need a phone buddy.
Let me know if anyone can help me see the big picture. I will have my cheat sheets and draft lists with me, however, I will need an update on who's been drafted and someone to enter my picks.
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| 331 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:07
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I'm here, but am awaiting final negotiations with another manager about a possible trade. Stand by...
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| 332 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:15
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Trade announcement:
Motley Crue and Guru swap picks in rounds 8, 9, and 15.
Guru gets 8.10, 9.05, and 15.05
Motley gets 8.08, 9.07, and 15.07
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| 333 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:23
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MC trades up to get his 5th RB (and taking a handcuff from me!). I am looking forward to the rationale.
I debated on taking Moore at 8.04, but I thought Moulds was was more valuable to my team and that Moore may fall back down to me.
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| 334 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:30
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I'm generally available for queues, phone, etc. and what not until Sept. 4th... then I may or may not be leaving the country for a few days (to be determined).
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| 335 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:38
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As I recall, MC was actively swiping handcuffs from a lot of us last year. I guess he's at it again!
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| 336 | BoNkA
ID: 287572315
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 16:57
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Glad I have 2 starting RBs. Although my backup for those bye weeks is a little iffy. Glad we have a RB vacuum with us to make it even harder :P
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| 337 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:03
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If you avoid the top running backs in the early rounds, you won't have anyone stealing your handcuffs
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| 338 | BoNkA
ID: 357112316
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:11
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I apologize for mentioning an undrafted player in my last rationale. For some reason I had thought he was taken already and didn't think twice.
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| 339 | Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:13
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Wow, nice trade MC! Traded up to snatch a rb from Guru. Leaves me wondering if Guru was even eyeing a rb there.
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| 340 | Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:13
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Whoa, now. I have a great reason for taking every one of those guys. You'll have to wait until I get my rationales up, but I think the 5 I have now are better than the stable I had last season. I mean, that's saying something. Last year's lineup included Barlow, Henry, Wheatley and several other guys on the verge of retiring from the NFL.
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| 341 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:15
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Nice pick Guru. Had my eye on him for a while, but wasn't ready to pull the trigger for a couple more rounds. Great value.
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| 342 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:23
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Terrence McGee kicks ass in Madden.
;-)
Was just checking out the grid. If Hasselbeck had slipped to GoatLocker at 7.09 I would've REALLY REALLY liked his team. Can't wait to read the Palmer rationale....I suppose he is primed to improve, and he does have a good pair of receivers and a good RB, but still a curious choice.
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| 343 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:36
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Species, And instead, you REALLY REALLY like my team, right? I know I don't.
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| 344 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 18:01
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I like your team too leggestand. Solid skill position players (Moulds was a steal, IMO). Should be interesting to see if lack of top flight IDP or team defense will come back to bite you.
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| 345 | Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 18:12
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For some reason I got the stop sign on Donte Stallworth - which I proceeded to go through as I couldnt find him as drafted and couldnt figure out a different way to spell it.
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| 346 | kev
Donor
ID: 043111845
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 19:39
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Guru- around tonight to take my que? I got a poker tourney that Im leaving for in about an hour.
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| 347 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 20:13
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I can take a queue tonight. I'll be away early tomorrow morning, however.
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| 348 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 20:15
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BTW, BoNkA, I'll be picking shortly, if you're around. Just doing some last minute research.
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| 349 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 20:27
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Bandos [345] - Perhaps the correct spelling is Donté
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| 350 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 21:52
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Long queue sent to Doug for my next two picks. If for some reason we get 11.11 by tomorrow night, please wait for me to get back around 9:30pm est.
Hopefully you can follow my queue, Doug, since it has a couple scenarios. Thanks.
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| 351 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 22:39
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I am going to call it a night, we've been stalled a couple hours and 5 picks to get to me.
I received zero response to post 330. W/O some help the draft is doomed to time out on each of my picks after tomorrow afternoon.
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| 352 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 23:02
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You clearly didn't read post 334. =-p Want me to email you instead?
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| 353 | Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 23:25
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Sorry for the delay. I had a root canal today and then 3 beers at dinner knocked me way out until TB called me to talk RIBC.
Great job taking my intented target this round, Guru. I suppose that makes up for last season.
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| 354 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 23:50
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Your trade made it all possible!
;-)
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| 355 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 23:51
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Taxman - after Friday, I should be available for queues, phone alerts, etc. as well.
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| 356 | Motley Crue
ID: 33741217
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 07:32
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354, I know the irony there is thick, isn't it?
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| 357 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 08:44
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6.10 Mike Anderson, RB, DEN
Did I just draft Denver’s starting tailback in the 6th round? Everyone knows that the Broncos churn out 1,000-yard-backs like Ben Affleck does expensive Hollywood clunkers. If Anderson, who is #1 on the Denver depth chart, stays there for at least half the season, this pick is worth the price. I honestly wanted to wait until the 9th round or so to take him, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized
A. Tatum Bell has demonstrated a slight history of injury.
B. Mike Anderson has demonstrated a strong history of success.
And yes, I backed myself into a corner by not taking a second RB until round 5. Guru and I have similar plans obviously.
However, I might have drafted Denver’s starting tailback in the 6th round.
7.06 Travis Henry, RB, TEN
I’m the President of his fan club; I had to take him.
You know he is a good RB. I don’t need to convince you. How healthy will Chris Brown be this season? That’s the only issue with Henry. If Brown starts 16 games, I have a third down back with little to no upside. If Chris Brown gets injured again, as he has throughout college and his pro career, I have another starting RB. And I’ll remind everyone of Henry’s heroic 2003 campaign in which he rushed for 1356 yards and 10 TD’s, despite having a broken leg for half the season.
McGahee’s caddy indeed.
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| 358 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 09:13
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Doug
Thanks. I'll need to know your phone number to call you..and an e-mail address to send my phone number. I think you should send your phone number by e-mail, which is why I have been posting my e-mail address in the e-mail box the past few postings.
Last time I published on line I started receiving p/c from car dealerships and financial planners from all around the country, as some "friend" entered my number in a data dispersal system requesting their services etc.
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| 359 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 09:28
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I've been grabbing everyone's email off the Fanball site for trades, queues, etc., but am including it here as well for quick reference.
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| 360 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:18
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I just did a bunch of rationale placeholders if Bandos is around to insert his from the 7th round.
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| 361 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:39
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Time to move the discussion to a new thread. This was loading so-o-o-o-o slowly via my dial-up connection.
next thread
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