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0 Subject: RIFC 2005: Draft Discussion #2

Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:36
Time for a new thread. Good progress in the draft so far. We're on pace to finish in plenty of time.
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325Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 10:28 		OK, I moved the draft along by assigning him "Skip Pick", the backup kicker for Jeff Reed on Pittsburgh. Gotta handcuff those kickers, y'know.
326Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 10:48 		I started a thread for your general recap of the draft. Please wait until the final 3 picks are made before posting in that thread.
327Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 11:56 		I'll catch up on my rationales after school, sorry. I had about 5 minutes to work with :(
328Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 12:29 		Dammit. I wanted Skip... thought maybe as a free agent.
329I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 41713300
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 12:57 		and... WERE DONE!
330Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 13:38 		OK - Here's the schedule.

1. Post your remaining rationales here ASAP.

2. Go to the Fanball site and complete picking up your drafted players. Please do this before midnight tomorrow.

3. If you want to claim any undrafted players, send me an email by midnight on Sunday. I'll process any claims on Monday morning (exact time TBD, but I'll let you know as the day approaches). After that, you may do add/drops on your own. (Until then, hands off - except for picking up your draftees now.)

331Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 13:54 		To be clear, because the option is there right now, if you add anyone via free agency that you didn't draft, IT'S CHEATING.

333Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 14:00 		[if supportMisalignedColumns] [endif]
Sludge AthleticsGuy Challenger Doug Motley BoNkA RotoGuru
QB Favre 6 Brady 7 Plummer 9 Leftwich 7 Bulger 9 Hasselbeck 8 Manning 8 QB
QB2 Griese 7 Roethlisberger 4 Pennington 8 McNair 10 Harrington 3 Bledsoe 9 Manning 5 QB2
QB3 Volek 10 QB3
RB LT 10 Alexander 8 Priest 5 Deuce 10 Edge 8 McGahee 9 Westbrook 6 RB
RB2 Bettis 4 Bell 9 Cadillac 7 Jul Jones 9 T Jones 4 Dunn 8 L Johnson 5 RB2
RB3 Duckett 8 Barlow 6 C Brown 10 BJ Sams 3 M Anderson 9 Benson 4 R Moats 6 RB3
RB4 Turner 10 Gore 6 R Williams 4 Henry 10 K Faulk 7 Betts 3 RB4
RB5 Jacobs 10 M Moore 5 Moe Williams 5 RB5
RB6 A Smith 10 W Parker 4 RB6
RB6 C Fason 5 RB6
WR1 Owens 6 Harrison 8 Mason 10 S Smith 7 Holt 9 J Walker 6 A Johnson 3 WR1
WR2 Horn 10 Coles 8 Key Johnson 9 Boldin 6 Wayne 8 Mi Clayton 7 Driver 6 WR2
WR3 Muhammed 4 Rogers 3 A Bryant 4 Porter 5 Colbert 7 B Edwards 4 Randle El 4 WR3
WR4 Stokley 8 Givens 7 Engram 8 M Jones 7 Jenkins 8 Glenn 9 Hall 5 WR4
WR5 T Taylor 5 Toomer 5 Mike Williams 3 Welker 4 E Parker 10 Boston 4 Lewis 10 WR5
WR6 Curry 5 WR6
TE McMichael 4 Troupe 10 Gonzo 5 Clark 8 Cooley 3 Shockey 5 Gates 10 TE
TE2 Graham 7 Jolley 8 Miller 4 LJ Smith 6 TE2
PK Vinatieri 7 Janikowski 5 Akers 6 Wilkins 9 Longwell 6 Nugent 8 PK
PK2 PK2
D/ST Seattle 8 Baltimore 3 Atlanta 8 NY Jets 8 Chicago 4 Philly 6 Indy 8 D/ST
D/ST2 Miami 4 Detroit 3 Tennessee 10 Arizona 6 Kansas City 5 D/ST2
DL Taylor 4 Rice 7 Ware 9 K Williams 5 C Grant 10 Schobel 9 J Smith 10 DL
DL2 S Ellis 8 DL2
LB Spikes 9 Z Thomas 4 Suggs 3 Lewis 3 Briggs 4 D Brooks 7 Bulluck 10 LB
LB2 LB2
DB S Taylor 3 Roy Williams 9 Coleman 8 Wilson 5 Clements 9 Reed 3 McGee 9 DB
DB2 A Wilson 6 Boulware 8 Trufant 8 Brown 4 DB2
Flex Witherspoon 7 Barnett 6 D Johnson 5 Urlacher 4 D Williams 9 Farrior 4 Vilma 8 Flex
kevmarbury GoatLocker Taxman leggestand Bandos Ender IAC
QB Collins 5 Palmer 10 Culpepper 5 Green 5 Vick 8 Brees 10 McNabb 6 QB
QB2 Boller 3 Ramsey 3 Warner 6 Losman 9 Carr 3 Delhomme 7 Brooks 5 QB2
QB3 QB3
RB Dom Davis 3 Portis 3 Dillon 7 Jamal Lewis 3 Barber 5 Rudi 10 Kev Jones 3 RB
RB2 C-Mart 8 S Jackson 9 Foster 7 L Jordan 5 F Taylor 7 A Green 6 R Brown 4 RB2
RB3 M Faulk 9 Arrington 6 Davenport 6 M Bennett 5 Suggs 4 Staley 4 Pittman 7 RB3
RB4 Blaylock 8 Goings 7 Shelton 7 Droughns 4 Toefield 7 Rhodes 8 Shipp 6 RB4
RB5 Morency 3 C Taylor 3 Davis 7 Perry 10 RB5
RB6 Green 4 RB6
RB6 RB6
WR1 D Jackson 8 Roy Williams 3 Burleson 5 Chambers 4 R Moss 5 Bennett 10 C Johnson 10 WR1
WR2 Fitzgerald 6 Branch 7 Bruce 9 Burress 5 Stallworth 10 Ward 4 J Smith 7 WR2
WR3 R Smith 9 Evans 9 TJ Housh 10 Moulds 9 Lloyd 6 Lelie 9 Kennison 5 WR3
WR4 McCardell 10 S Moss 3 Drummond 3 Calico 10 Northcutt 4 K Curtis 9 McCareins 8 WR4
WR5 Gardner 7 Reg Williams 7 G Lewis 6 M Robinson 5 Caldwell 10 Galloway 7 WR5
WR6 WR6
TE Franks 6 E Johnson 6 Wiggins 5 Crumpler 8 Heap 3 Putzier 9 Witten 9 TE
TE2 Pollard 3 J Stevens 8 TE2
PK Carney 10 Elam 9 Kaeding 10 Reed 4 Stover 3 Brown 8 Vanderjagt 8 PK
PK2 Graham 10 Skip Pick 47 PK2
D/ST Pittsburgh 4 Cincy 10 Buffalo 9 Tampa Bay 7 New Eng. 7 Washington 3 Carolina 7 D/ST
D/ST2 St. Louis 9 Denver 9 Jacksonville 7 Minnesota 5 Dallas 9 D/ST2
DL Peppers 7 Kerney 8 Abraham 8 Berry 6 Henderson 7 Freeney 8 Strahan 5 DL
DL2 Ogunleye 4 DL2
LB Brooking 8 Peterson 7 Edwards 10 Sharper 8 Fletcher 9 Cowart 5 Morgan 7 LB
LB2 Peterson 6 Colvin 7 LB2
DB Archuleta 9 Davis 7 Barber 7 Azumah 4 Polamalu 4 Harrison 7 M Williams 10 DB
DB2 Jones 4 B Scott 8 D Robinson 3 DB2
Flex Arrington 3 Wong 3 June 8 Clark 5 Pierce 5 Wilson 9 Hartwell 8 Flex
334I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 41713300
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 14:52 		Ouch... didn't realize Taxman had so much bye week issues. That's going to hurt a little.
336Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 17:12 		20.11 Bryan Scott, DB, ATL

I had Scott ranked in the top couple of DB’s but I see he made the switch to FS from SS. Not sure what that will do to his close to 100 tackles. I figure I can use him to spell both LB as a flex and my DB. We will see how it works as a roster efficiency move.

21.12 Marcus Robinson, WR, MIN

Minnesota is supposed to be good, right? Daunte, ok too? Well, his bye week sucks which is why I didn’t draft Marcus rounds ago but in the 21st round the WR2 for Minny being available is puzzling. In Chicago he was not a factor as their QB’s kinda sucked. The 21 st round seems like a good round for this kind of high upside pick/ he might be dropped soon to fill bye issues.
337BoNkA
ID: 12811114
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 17:18 		I think Motley got me confused with Kev in his recap. I didn't take Pitt in the 8th round. If you'd like to give them to me in exchange for the Chiefs, I'd be glad to do so. I'd have all Pennsylvania defenses(I live in PA).

I'll eventually get a recap done. I'll get to criticize myself for the RB and WR groups I drafted and could kill my season.
338Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 19:03 		MC wrote: "Oh, and Doug, when one of your Big 3 go down, and Henry, Anderson, and Mewelde are tearing it up for their respective teams… make your offer real good. It should include at least a pint of blood or a minor bodily organ."

Big 3!?!? I thought I had a Big 2!?!? And a small-but-servicable 1 to go along with...

Ah well, if the unlikely scenario occurs that one of my studs suffers a 5-week-or-more injury while you've simultaneously got 3+ starters "tearing it up for their respective teams", I shall count myself lucky that I still retain my appendix, and thus can include it in my offer it to satisfy the minor bodily organ requirement... I think it qualifies. I didn't read the fine print though.
339TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 21:11 		Athletics Guy, At QB, I selected Tom Brady. The fantasy manager in me says "This is great!" The Raiders fan says "Why?!" I don't know how I can root for this guy every week. I guess if he helps me win my matchups, I'll be happy. And if he stinks it up real bad, I'll be happy too. So, it's a win/win situation.

LOL- I think I am going to just copy and paste that into my draft recap. I still shake my head left and right that I drafted Brady as my starting QB. It was a fumble.
340Ender
ID: 406351010
Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 21:33 		19.13 Al Wilson LB DEN
I felt compelled to have a 3rd LB at this point. I was looking for a guy who gets his share of tackles. Big Al's name stuck out to me because he was solely responsible for one of my losses in another league last year. He had a monster game with a TD return (on a Monday night IIRC), it was absolute torture watching him get the pick and score.

20.02 Josh Brown K SEA IIRC I drafted Jeffy last season as well. I have no particular affinity towards him. It's just that if you wait forever to take a kicker and your one rule is that they have to play in a dome your likely to end up with him I guess.

21.13 Rosevelt Colvin LB NE
I was at school. My lists were at home. Colvin went to Purdue. That about sums it up. OK, OK, OK the thought that he may step it up a notch this year with a couple holes in the NE D did pass threw my mind, but that was pretty much a manufactured reason. I just thought it would be cool to have a Boilermaker on both sides of the ball.

I type these up and I just shake my head and laugh. Not because I think I'm a hilarious kind of guy, but because I marvel at how some of you guys can come up with actual analysis and real thought for guys taken beyond the say 17th round. I know, Motley, you took Gates in the 18th round last year (how many times have you slipped that into one of these rationales, we GET it ;)
341Athletics Guy
ID: 87513016
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 04:38 		LOL TB, that was a tough pick for me. I know how you feel. As much as I love the Raiders, I think Brady is going to have a HUGE game against our defense in the season opener. Hopefully, it will be something like Oakland 42 New England 35. That would be a nice beginning for the Moss Era. :)
342Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 10:36 		Bandos, I totally forgot that my homer post was written under the wrong handle. I was relieved to see someone else forget to change hteir handle back just the other day. I'm not saying I'm not a dork sometimes, it's just a relief to see that I'm not the only one :)
343Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:13 		Yeah, I waltzed in and out of threads calling myself "for leggestand" one whole day last week. As if that doesn't sound totally gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. But I'm not gay, and I'm not for leggestand.
344Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:25 		Looks like all rationales are in except for several rounds from each of Challenger, leggestand, and Taxman.

Thanks!
345Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:28 		Bandos is the only team with an incomplete roster at Fanball. He still needs 6 players.
346 Ender
ID: 26852210
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:55 		Can someone please email a copy of Draft Dominator. I am trying to get on a laptop for a draft tonight. I can't just download to the laptop so I need to receive it via email.

Thanks in advance.
347TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:08 		It is in the send mode right now. 5 MB, so taking a minute to send.
348Ender
ID: 1710131316
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:27 		Thanks, TB. Now all I need is for our network server to come back up :(
349TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:35 		It sent ok. If it doesn't come through or you need anything else, hit me back at my gmail addy and not the one I sent from. I rarely open that email and only use it when sending large files.
350Ender
ID: 1710131316
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:37 		Thanks again. I can access the internet from my desktop, but I have to have server acces first on the laptop. If the server stays down, then I'm hosed. Not that I can't draft without DD, it just tracks everything so well.
351Ender
ID: 1710131316
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:58 		It's there. The server still is not.
352FRICK@Work
ID: 220211
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 13:45 		Ender, does the laptop have a USB port that you can plug a Memory Stick into?

353 Ender
ID: 16856212
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 13:57 		Frick, I'm allove that option right now :)

I just need it resent to the new address in this post. If someone could resend it I would appreciate it.
354Ender
ID: 16856212
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:09 		What a royal pain in the arse this whole thing has been. It should have been as simple as downloading the file from their site, but that was blocked. That's fine. I half expected that. I didn't expect not being able to download it from the first email address.

355Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:28 		OK, duh, just forwarded it to myself from the other address. I'm so annoyed that I can't even think straight. I gave up my whole lunch to get this done.
356Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:29 		CRAP! Firewall blocked the stinking email :( I'm still in need of someone to send it to me. It should work as long as it isn't coming from a web email address (like my other one).
357GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:38 		OK, just sent it.
You will need to change the extension from .ppt back to .exe

Looks like it went okay.

Cliff
358Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:39 		Thanks, I'll give it a look.
359Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:43 		Cliff, it bounced like that too. It appears I am up a creek. I'll have to go with cheat sheets.
360GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:45 		Hmm, don't know what else to try.
I guess I could try to zip it to make it smaller.

Let me see.

Cliff
361GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:47 		Here's the problem.

This is an automated message from the St. Bernard Software ePrism Email Security Appliance
at host lceprism.lakecentral.k12.in.us.

A mail from you (clifford.dilling@navy.mil) to (bgray@lakecentral.k12.in.us)
was stopped and Rejected because it contains one or more
forbidden attachments.

Summary of email contents:

Queue ID: 6F5C6FFD68
DRAFTD60l_Setup.ppt
forbidden attachment (detected as .exe)
362Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:51 		Rather than haranguing Bandos about it, I simply added the 6 missing players to his roster. It now appears that all rosters are full (except for leggestand, who skipped one pick.)

As such, I have now locked out the ability to pick up free agents. If you notice an incorrect player on your roster, please notify me ASAP, and I'll make the substitution.

The list of free agents at Fanball should therefore be accurate. If you want to claim one of those players as part of the post-draft claiming process, you must send me an email stating the player to be added, and the player to be released. The priority order for this process is listed in post 290. I must receive your claim by midnight, Sunday, Sept. 4th.

If there are any claims, I will process them early Monday morning (Sept. 5th). At that time, I will re-enable everyone's ability to pick up free agents on a first come, first served basis. The claim priorities, after adjustment for any awarded claims, will be applied to any waiver claims for the rest of the week. Waiver claims would only be applied to any players who are dropped during the week.
363Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:51 		Yeah, I thought we could get around it somehow, but obviously not.

Oh well, I (and you guys) tried.
364Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:56 		Ender, I have a copy as well. I can try putting it on my server, and then send you a URL to access it. I assume you can access rotoguru1.com, since you are posting here.
365Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 15:08 		Ender - email with URL sent to the lakecentral email address. Is that the proper one to use?
366Ender
Donor
ID: 013443221
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 15:45 		It's actually a fellow teachers due to the server trouble, but it'll work.

I just tried it and it's throwing back any page with a .exe extension. Thanks again for all the help guys. It's a shame I can't get it done. I'm confident in my ability to draft without it, but it would have been a help to our commish to track all the teams easily.
367Bandos
Sustainer
ID: 279492419
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 17:47 		no haranguing was necessary - I was actually at the screen twice and ...

sorry.
368leggestand
ID: 17744278
Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 20:00 		Back in town guys. Thanks for getting my pick(s) in. I will have the missing rationales and pick in tonight, and my draft recap tomorrow.

And post 343 made me laugh.
369Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 21:31 		So far, I have received three emailed claims for undrafted players. I will process them (and any others) tomorrow morning, probably between 8-9 am, and then release all free agents, after which you can pick them up, first come, first served.
370leggestand
ID: 17744278
Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 21:44 		Since I skipped my last pick, am I putting a waiver claim in for someone if I want to drop "Skip Pick?" If so, I will wait until everyone is a free agent to add a player.
375holt
      ID: 26810414
      Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 00:42 		hey guru - any plans to do a hockey invitational league?
376Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 08:47 		holt[375] - no
377Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 08:53 		The following three claims were processed this morning:

Motley: waive RB Ciatrick Fason MIN and pick up PK Todd Peterson ATL

Bandos: waive Marcus Robinson, WR, MIN and pick up Ben Watson, TE, NE

BoNkA: waive David Boston, WR, MIA and pick up Marty Booker, WR, MIA

You should now be able to add/drop players. It's not clear whether dropped players will go on waivers this week (prior to the start of the season) or not. I guess will find out if/when someone is dropped. (It may be that waivers start after the first lockout.)

I can't find any link to set up waiver priorities or to claim players, which causes me to suspect that this feature may not activate until after the first freeze.
378Ender
      ID: 406351010
      Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 11:00 		Does that mean we will handle that manually or that dropped players (including the 3 above) are up for grabs?
379Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 16:19 		I suppose that we should administer it manually, although I rechecked our league settings, and dropped players in the preseason are supposed to go on waivers. I'll submit a ticket to see what's up.

Meanwhile, if you want to claim a dropped player, send me an email.
380Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 17:05 		Fanball responded that the waiver system is not activated until after the first weekend.

I did, however, code up the rules to say that during the preseason, dropped players may not be added for 48 hours. So, supposedly, if you try to add a dropped player during the first 48 hours after he is dropped, you will be prevented from doing so.

Assuming this is true, send me an email if you want to claim one of these players, and I will administer manually.
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