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Subject: keeper league player keeping philosphies
Posted by: boikin
- [400291013] Mon, Jul 10, 2006, 16:34
here is the question i have been pondering for a while and that is how to decide whether or not to keep a player or to throw them back in a keeper league. Outside of the usual ideas of looking at the new avaible players and the mock draft status of the players on your team i have began to think that your decision should also be made on based on the past performance of your team if your team has consistendly sucked for past couple of years i should think that you would/should be more liberal in throwing players back where as if your team has been steadly winning, doing well, you should be more conservtive in your throw back policy. i believe this to be espcially true if your keepers are WRs. Any thoughts on this idea. |
| 1 | biliruben
Leader
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Mon, Jul 10, 2006, 17:13
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Sounds like you would be judging your own ability to pick players if you used that sort of decision making.
If you judge that your past poor performance indicates that you should more likely throw your players back, then you should probably also judge that you aren't competent to play fantasy football.
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| 2 | Motley Crue
ID: 2192327
Mon, Jul 10, 2006, 20:43
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That's harsh!
boikin, I'm glad to see you posted this topic. boikin and I have been discussing this offline for a while. It's an interesting aspect that I hadn't really considered before. I've only been in a keeper league for the last few years and was lucky enough to have LT and some other obvious keepers last year.
I think there's merit to the idea of throwing all in, if and only if your players are not sure things. And the only way to get a good handle on that is by looking at the ADP of the players in question.
The main example we've been discussing is a team with Cadillac, Ronnie Brown, and Chad Johnson. RB-heavy scoring, 12-team league. If you keep 3 you lose picks in the first 3 rounds; keep 2 you lose your first two round picks, etc. The guy who has those three players happened to finish dead last in 2005 in the league, so he'd choose first overall. If he throws all in, he could choose Reggie Bush, and likely get one of the 3 guys already on his team back. Maybe not certainly, but it's possible. The draft in that league does not snake.
Anyway, I am of the mind that he should keep those 3 and forget about Bush (who is far from a sure thing) and just realize that to go 1-12 is about as hard as going 12-1. The owner has to have better luck this time around.
My point is that I don't think throwing all in just because your team was awful the year before is a valid response. There are other reasons why a team could have finished poorly (bad management, bad luck on the random free agent request process, etc). If that team throws those three back in, I think that's a mistake.
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| 3 | sarge33rd
ID: 2464896
Mon, Jul 10, 2006, 21:12
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Our keeper league, ea manager must keep 3. No opting out of it. So strategy in that case is simple...keep your best 3 (or "least worst") and go from there.
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| 4 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Jul 10, 2006, 21:59
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In that scenario, why wouldn't he just keep two of them and probably be assured of getting Bush as the top pick in the 3rd round? Anyway, I agree with you and would keep those three.
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| 5 | Motley Crue
ID: 2192327
Mon, Jul 10, 2006, 22:04
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If you keep two, you don't pick until the third round. So if anyone else kept only one or none, the manager in question wouldn't get to pick first overall.
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| 6 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Mon, Jul 10, 2006, 22:21
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In this specific example, there's no way I'd throw those 3 guys back for Bush, even if I knew I'd get one of them back. I would think you'd almost have a better chance if you want Bush that bad to trade two of those guys for him after the draft to the team that drafts him, which guarantees that you'd get Bush and one of your keepers.
I'd go along with what MC said and only think about doing this if there were no extenuating circumstances the previous year and there was uncertainty around my keepers. If you had Edge, McGahee, and Horn, for instance, I'd have to seriously consider it. Good question though.
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| 7 | boikin
ID: 400291013
Tue, Jul 11, 2006, 12:23
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these are all really good pionts though i was thinking more in terms of team that has 3 players who are at best going in the second round. the examble that crue used good examble put i would have to agree you do not throw your players back there all your guys are young and good keepers though from personal prefrence i feel WRs should not be kept they are too unpredictable to keep even chad johnson, given that you should be able to pick up reasonable WR much later in the draft. the examble i was looking at was j. jones, harrison, and palmer. what is your incentive to keep this these players.
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