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0 Subject: RIFC 2006: Draft rationales #2 (rds 7-12)

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 17:24

Continuing for RIFC draft rounds 7-12.

Rationales for round 1-6
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34The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 16:35
9.06 Antonio Pierce - LB, NYG



It has become apparent that the level of IDP sophistication in the RIFC has markedly gone up since its inception. As such, it was definitely time to start adding some defense to this squad. First on the list is the Giants' workhorse on D, MLB Antonio Pierce.

Last year, he scored 120 points in 13 games before an ankle injury during the Eagles game basically ended his season. He's fully recovered and ready to make a run at the top 5 in fantasy scoring among LBs. 8 games with double digit fantasy points and another game with 9 points is the type of production you want from your #1 LB. He's great in coverage and against the run so he's on the field for every defensive play, which is not as common as may be believed. No other pick was seriously considered here.
35Valkyrie
      ID: 25110210
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 16:37
for culdeus
9.07 Gary Brackett LB IND


Good value here. Like this pick. Both LBs have the potential to be 1PPG within the top 10 which is all I ask for. Not much else to say. Brackett seems to be the focus of the Indy defense right now. And with some injuries his role might be growing. Round 9: The hail marys at RB are starting to come off. MB3, Maroney, Jones etc. probably about time for that.

36Valkyrie
      ID: 25110210
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 16:42
9.08 Gibril Wilson- DB NYG
This guy is a must for me- had him last year with a late pick- love him- the reincarnation of Rodney Harrison- couldn't risk him not lasting another round- esp with Antonio Pierce gone. Actually my entire list of late round LB's has already been substantially depleted so I second Beezer's observation about the overall attention to the defensive side of the ball this year. Unfortunately the defensive side provided my biggest advantage last year.
37for TB
      ID: 43441182
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 17:18
9.09 Laurence Maroney, RB, NWE

I am in the same boat from my last pick, lots of needs but only one player can be drafted at a time. I feel comfortable with my RB's, but anything can happen and I do need a bye-week filler for weeks 7 and 9. Maroney has shown some flashes of brilliance this preseason. Dillon is still the man, but I believe they try to get the ball into this kid's hands a couple series each game and let him make things happen. If Dillon goes down with an injury or if Maroney keeps playing like he has been, he could have a big season.
38youngroman
      ID: 43441182
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 17:21
9.10 Lance Briggs, LB, CHI
one of the consistent linebacker left. playing in the heart of the Chicago defense helps too.
I think the LB position will be thin this year because I don't see that much attractive choices left.
39For RotoGuru
      ID: 2192327
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 20:29
9.11 AJ Hawk, LB, GNB

I’m beginning to appreciate Doug’s approach to IDPs. The chatter has focused on whether he’s taken too many IDPs too early. But perhaps the key question isn’t when to take the 1st (or 2nd or 3rd) IDP; maybe it’s when to take your 6th (i.e., last starting) IDP. And if you wait until round 7-8 to get started, you can’t finish up until the mid-teens. In any event, the run on LBs is well underway, and it looks like the gap between Doug’s 3rd LB and everyone else’s 3rd LB is going to be pretty big. Doug may be crazy – crazy like a fox.

I have no LBs yet, and they’ve been dropping like flies, which is no surprise. We’re also at the point where there seems to be little consensus across multiple ranking services. A guy ranked #20 by one site can be ranked #35 in another and #50 in a third. I’m not a good enough student of the game to be able to develop my own informed rankings, particularly for IDPs – so the lack of consensus creates a lot of indecision, but also lots of opportunity.

Hawk is a rookie, so there’s no pro experience to go on. But all the pundits seems to think he’s got the tools and skills to be a productive starter from day one, with potential upside to offset the risk that comes with any rookie. Green Bay’s offense may have trouble staying on the field, which should give Hawk plenty of opportunities to make plays.

40For Doug
      ID: 2192327
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 20:31
9.12 Marion Barber, RB, DAL


Tuna's been singing Barber's praises, saying he'll be a major part of the O even if Jones is healthy. And of course, Jones hasn't proven the most durable back yet, so the upside is definitely there. Was flip-flopping between Barber and Maroney, but TB made the choice easier for me. =-)
41Motley Crue
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      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 20:32
9.13 Angelo Crowell, LB, BUF

This is another familiar member of the Motley boys. Crowell stepped up last season and filled in for another injured stud LB for the Bills and proved in the process that he could get his tackles with the best of them. Entering his fourth NFL season as a starter for the first time, he should be part of a fairly good running defense, highlighted by a superb LB corps.

Having 2 LB out of the top 20 or thereabouts seems like it will be a key to staying competitive this season, since it appears linebackers are the new fantasy wide receivers under our format.

42For s_R
      ID: 2192327
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 21:10
9.14 Karlos Dansby, LB, ARI
Defense, continued. Excellent fantasy season last year, and he's also a scoring threat.

10.01 James Farrior, LB, Pit
The most consistent Steeler linebacker. He is a versatile tackler who will come up with some interceptions as well.

43Motley Crue
      ID: 2192327
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 21:18
10.02 Randy McMichael, TE, MIA

This guy is a stud TE and I had him ranked a lot higher than the 10th round in a standard 12 team draft. I feel like taking him here was a great value, yet I'm not overly excited by the pick. I suppose it's because there are plenty of possible TE studs left at this point. However I'm willing to accept the level of performance I expect from McMike with my 10th round pick. That's what I meant by a great value.

Culpepper is the best QB Miami has had since Dan Marino. That alone should account for an increase in opportunities for all of the receivers. I think McMichael has a good chance to end up Top 5 at the position, so that's nice.
44Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 22:29
for Doug
10.03 Antonio Bryant WR SFO
There are reports of solid chemistry developing between Bryant and the SF QB... and young QBs often find a "security blanket" receiver who they feel comfortable throwing the ball to. At the same time, with the return of an injured TE and the addition of a new one, hopefully there will be enough targets on the field to prevent constant double-teams, etc. Not expecting anything studly here, but the #1 WR in SF should at least manage to be a solid #3 fantasy WR for me, which is really all I'm looking for from this pick.
45Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 22:32
10.04 Kevan Barlow, RB, SF=>NYJ

I was all set to pick Michael Lewis when I heard the news of Kevan Barlow’s trade to the Jets. The trade is contingent on a physical, which means it isn’t final yet. And Barlow may not even win the starting job in NY. But, as a 3rd RB, the chance for someone who will start in the 10th round offers too much potential to dismiss, even if Barlow has been a pretty consistent disappointment in recent years.

So, the question comes down to whether I want a 3rd IDP who would start every week, or a speculative RB who might develop as a starter, might be no better than a fill-in, and might be a total bust. When I put it that way, picking the IDP seems like the way to go.

On the other hand, if Barlow had been the presumptive RB for the Jets when this draft started, he’d probably have been taken at least 2-3 rounds ago – maybe earlier. So, when that opportunity serendipitously falls in my lap, I’d feel like a fool not taking it, especially if Barlow does pan out. It’s clear from subsequent feedback that Barlow would have been taken quickly if I didn’t take the option now.

So, with full acknowledgment that this might blow up in my face, I’ll take the risk. In the 10th round, the potential upside outweighs the risk.
46youngroman
      ID: 43441182
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 04:57
10.05 Jason Taylor, DL, MIA
the other choice presented himself 1 hour before my pick came up: Kevan Barlow. Guru is not the Guru if he hadn't taken him as soon as he was traded to the Jets and be their proposed starter. A starting RB in round 10. holy cow, even Barlow is a steal here. pure luck.

so I went back to the original plan: Jason Taylor. he is a stud at his position and the other IDPs available were within a 5-point-range. easy decision for me. I'd rather take the gambles on offense (RB, WR) than on defense.
last note, before I forget it: "he is the #1 at his position". he joins my #1-club with Steve Smith, Antonio Gates and Zach Thomas.
I had to say that. the game is all about motivation.
47TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 05:19
10.06 Charles Tillman, DB, CHI

I am thinking IDP or back-up RB/QB with this pick. No RB or QB stand out, but two IDP do. Taylor at DL and Tillman at DB. I've had Tillman both years in this format and he produces. I still need 4 more IDP and am high on Tillman. Taylor was just taken so that makes this choice a lot easier. I considered Ben Roethlisberger with this pick. I wrote out a rationale for picking him, but it couldn't convince me to pull the trigger. I think I will draft him with one of my next two picks if he is still available.
48Valkyrie
      ID: 25110210
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 12:55
10.07 Derrick Johnson, LB, KC
The next LB on my short list
49Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 13:15
fur culdeus
10.8 Michael Lewis DB PHI





Wow, tremendous steal here IMO. I really scouted DBs this year because I do think they can make a major impact. I really had this guy as DB3 on my board. He gets gobs of tackles and is improving every year. The supporting cast around him is firming up and he'll be able to all hawk even more this year. Nice.

Round 10: Guru sweeps in with insider information and grabs Barlow. It's always interesting to track the people that benefit from on-the-fly information during a slow draft. It can completly shift the power in a league in one pick. It's not like Barlow has ever done anything, ever but you get the point.
50The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 14:11
10.09 Kawika Mitchell, LB, KC



What can I say, I like MLBs that stay on the field all three downs on D. Kawika was much less of a moron in 2005 than his previous season, which helped to be much more productive on defense to the tune of about 7 FP/game.

I think he can pick that up by a point a game just like he did last year which would put him in the top 15 among LBs. And it's not like he won't get a lot of chances playing on that defense, either.
51leggestand
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      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 14:41
for Athletics Guy
10.10 Roy Williams, DB, DAL

I had Roy Williams last season and he was a solid performer, so why not get him again? I could have grabbed another LB here, but I preferred another top 10 DB. Williams is one of the elite players at his position, and it's safe to assume he'll match or exceed last year's numbers. I can't say the same about the LBs that are on the board though. They've either only had one good season under their belt or they're not consistent like the Zach Thomas and Ray Lewis-types. So, I thought Williams was the safer choice here.
52leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 14:42
for IAC
10.11 Pittsburgh Steelers - DEF
I really wasn't targeting Team-D here at all, but I felt the need to plug away at a starting position. In hindsight… maybe shoulda gone IDP… but nonethless, good value on my board. A consensus Top3. Hoping that the new yardage scoring adjustment for Team-D warrants this pick.
53leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 14:49
10.12 Nate Burleson, WR, SEA

I didn't plan on taking a 4th WR this early, but according to my projections, Burleson should have gone at least 3 rounds ago. Burleson stunk last year (do you see a trend with my WR picks...Horn, Clayton, Burleson?), but his situation has completely changed. For the past two seasons Hasselbeck/Seattle has turned their 2nd and 3rd WR's into fantasy contributors. Heck, even some of the past Seattle 2nd and 3rd WR's have stunk and dropped multiple passes, yet they still get yards and TD's. Burleson has alot of potential and is young, and combining that with the fact that Seattle's passing game needs him with Jackson still nursing an injury and their TE out for close to 1/2 the season, he should be able to put up close to 1000 yards and 8 TD's. Burleson was simply someone who I couldn't pass up any longer given his potential to be a solid contributor to my team.

Round 10 value: Easiest one so far...Barlow. Guru's rationale explains it all perfectly. I also like the Antonio Bryant pick by Doug. After taking 3 stud LB's early, he has still been able to build a solid offense.
55leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:21
for Goatlocker
10.13 Kendrell Bell, LB, KC
Young, and a reach, but wanted a linebacker in this slot.
Is a real wait and see pick.
And if he doesn't work out, will drop and punt.
Really probably not who I wanted here.
56leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:22
for Hubble
10.14 Nate Clements, CB, BUF
With already 8 DB taken, i thought it was right about time i'd pick Clements, another player i targeted as must have (if you don't pay too much). Clements is one of the few DB to be 100 tackles threath. Last year he had only 2 INT, but look at this trend from 2001 to 2005: 3,6,3,6,2,- so is missing there is a 6 and 2 TD!

Still young, and plays on an awesome DEF, also have the remote chances to return punts and bring in the big play that makes you win your match. Very pleased with that pick.

57leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:22
for Hubble
11.01 Byron Leftwich, QB, JAC
15th QB taken, with some potent option still out, my strategy was to wait as long as possible to get Leftwich. I had him 2 years ago and although without extraordinary stats, he is most reliable and consistant and throws very few INT. I beleive he'll exeed easily 3000 yds and 15 TD, and certainly hope for better, if he stays healthy that is.
58leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:23
for Goatlocker
11.02 Joe Jurevicius, WR, Cle
Was time for the third WR. Some think he TD production last year was a fluke. I'm hoping not. His numbers might drop some to Edwards and Winslow, but hope to get the production I need out of him.
59leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:32
11.03 Marcus Washington, LB, WAS .

Ugh. I have lost a little bit of sleep about this pick. This pick came down to the following players: Ben Watson, Ed Reed, PacMan Jones, Adalius Thomas, and Marcus Washington. I believe that I had a good chance of getting one of these guys at my next pick (12.12), so, the key was to take someone that I knew wouldn't make it back to me. It appeared as though many LB's would go in the next two rounds, so, I took Marcus Washington. Seeing how the other 4 players all went in the next 15 picks, I either (a) picked the wrong player with Washington who could of made back to me or (b) would of missed out on Washington anyhow if I would of changed to one of my other four picks. Who knows, but the more I think about it, the more I think I may have made a mistake here. I think it could also be a classic case of over analyzation, as I had written down PacMan Jones the night before, and I thought myself out of the pick the next morning.

But, Washington does have his +'s. He should be close to leading the Redskins in tackles this year. Washington's primary strength is that he is a MLB with the potential to get 7-10 sacks, which should lead to some 12-15 point weeks.

Round 11 values: It has to be PacMan Jones and Ed Reed. These two guys should easily perform towards the top of the DB's, and they were drafted behind some questionable players.
60Athletics Guy
      ID: 167191017
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 18:14
11.04 Keenan McCardell - WR, SD
#1 WR in a relatively good offense. Should bring relative stability as my WR3. Doesn't cause bye week worries too, which at this point is a bonus. Can expect a decline in TD's this year probably, but hopefully will be off-ballanced by the "occassional" Punt Returns.
61Athletics Guy
      ID: 167191017
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 18:14
11.05 Shelton Quarles, LB, TB

Shelton Quarles should be a more than adequate starter. He's in his 10th season, but he hasn't showed signs of slowing down yet. He had a career-high 129 total tackles last season and 104 the season before that. Quarles won't do much when it comes to sacks or turnovers. But if he keeps getting those tackles, it will be more than enough.
62Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 18:22
11.06 Pacman Jones, DB, Ten
A 3rd IDP seems like the presumptive choice here, especially since I skipped that slot last round when Barlow suddenly dropped out of the sky.

Yet, we’re at the point when there is little consensus on relative value for the available IDPs. I’ve been scanning various IDP ranking sites this morning, and while they are all pretty similar at the top, they are all quite dissimilar once the studs are removed. I take that to mean that there is no clear pecking order for the next couple dozen IDPs, and no certainty that anyone taken here will pan out well. There’s also plenty of upside if I get it right – which seems speculative at best.

Team defense is a consideration. Four are gone so far, but there are still some quality options available. It might be helpful to plug in a defense that I can comfortably hold for awhile, alleviating the need to keep a 2nd defense on the bench leading up the the early bye weeks. One problem, though, is that the top available defense has an early bye week (4) which collides with many of my offensive starters, so that might not solve anything.

Pacman was the 4th highest producing DB in the league last year, with approx. 60 points from defensive stats, 33 points from punt returns, and 45 points from kick returns. It’s been reported that he won’t be returning punts this year, but one reason offered is so that he can devote more attention to his defensive role. With modest increases in his defensive stats and comparable kick returning, he could still be one of the top DBs this year, with punt return potential offering a wild card, even if it’s a remote possibility at this point. You never know. I thought he offered the best risk/reward tradeoff at this juncture, and decided to trade up a few slots to land him.
63culdeus
      ID: 25110210
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 19:06
11.07 LJ Smith, TE, PHI

I was waiting to take LJ till past the 10th round. I figured if he hit me in the 11th I would take him. Otherwise, I'd wait till the very late rounds to get a TE. There is a huge dropoff after LJ both in projected stats and upside. He's got a good situation in Philly and I'll take it.
64Valkyrie
      ID: 25110210
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 19:09
11.08 Ed Reed, DB, Baltimore
I was taken aback when Culdeus snatched LJ Smith
from my waiting roster- At a loss I took a major chance on Ed Reed who was an absolute monster prior to sustaining a high ankle injury last year in an early game. Not sure what if anything I am getting here but there is a lot of upside potential.
65TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 19:12
11.09 Ben Roethlisberger, QB, PIT

The QB slot is pretty important when it comes to scoring so it makes sense to have a solid back-up. I hope Brady stays healthy and produces like a top QB all year. If he doesn't, I feel comfortable bringing in Big Ben from the bench.
66youngroman
      ID: 43441182
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 19:15
11.10 Adalius Thomas, LB, BAL
he was the best IDP left. This was a tough pick for me because I had no plan for this pick. There was no run for a 4th WR, a 2nd QB or defenses, so I don't want to start it because you get the better value in the middle of these runs. I hope that after the turn I have more ideas in which direction to go.
67The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 19:21
11.11 Aaron Schobel, DL, BUF



I had 3 DLs on my radar for the 11th round pick. When Guru offered to trade down 5 spots to move up next round, I figured my odds were good that at least one of them would make it back to me since YR already had a DL. It worked out well as no DLs went off the board at all.

Schobel was one of my key guys down the stretch last year, scoring 8 points in 5 of the 7 games he played after I picked him up from his bye week. I had 3 DLs above the rest of the pack at the position, and no other guys at other positions jump out at me at this point. If he'll just match last year's production, he will be a top 5 guy at the position for me.
68Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 22:30
for Doug
11.12 - Jon Kitna, QB, DET
Wasn't exactly planning to hitch my wagon to the DET train, but by waiting so long to pick a QB I'm definitely hoping for upside. I don't expect a massive year for him, but sleeper potential is there. I'll nab another QB with upside after the turn and hope that one of them pans out.
69Motley Crue
      ID: 2192327
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 22:32
11.13 Darrent Williams, DB, DEN

I see a lot of DB’s coming off of the board by this point, and I am a bit surprised by it. I wanted to make sure I got my man before someone unexpectedly took him (this has happened to me a few times in this draft already).

Williams shows up in the mid-20’s when sorting the DB scoring for last year. He missed a quarter of his team’s games, however, and I believe if he plays 16 this year, and if he continues to return punts, he’ll achieve Top 5 status at the position.. And I know that some of the other managers in the league are targeting players that return kicks, so I decided to use this pick to lock him up.

I see Williams currently listed as the top PR on Denver’s depth chart, and Mike Bell as the top KR. I sort of doubt M. Bell will be returning kicks if he is starting at RB, but you never know what will happen in Denver until it happens. Maybe I have the Denver return team locked up? If that’s the case, then great.
70s R
      ID: 861898
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 07:00
11.14 Shawne Merriman, LB, SD
The defensive ROY, six sacks over his first four starts.
He should improve when he starts for a full season.
12.01 Ernest Wilford, WR, Jac
He grabbed 7 TDs a year ago, and now that Jimmy Smith is gone,
he's a solid breakout candidate.
71Motley Crue
      ID: 2192327
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 07:04
12.02 TJ Duckett, RB, WAS

There once was a running back named Duckett
His playing time was a drop in the bucket
Dunn’s moves were sick
As were those of Vick
TJ tired of the bench and said “__ it!”

TJ Duckett in the 12th round? Although I hope to never start him all season because Mike Bell and Warrick Dunn are enjoying 1500 yard/16 TD seasons, I can envision a scenario where Dunn and Duckett are my starters in any given week. The fact that he is Dunn’s handcuff is sweet. That I didn’t have to reach for him made this pick a no-brainer for me.

TJ is not a yardage machine by any stretch, but he gets enough touches and scores often enough to be a solid bye week replacement in a 14-team league like ours.

I think the new focus on IDP’s has really allowed for some bargain picks on the other side of the ball. I know I was sort of amazed that this guy was still available when I got him.

Breaking News: Duckett was just traded to the Redskins, thus ruining my limeric.
I suppose there’s little chance he’ll get his typical 8 TD’s in Washington. I can envision a few scenarios where injuries to Portis and Betts could pave the way for a nice season, but essentially, I feel the trade pushed Duckett’s value down at least 3 or 4 rounds. Crap.
72Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 08:51
for Doug
12.03 - Kurt Warner, QB, ARI
His glory days are behind him, but with targets like Boldin and Fitzgerald, along with Edge solidifying the running game (and I think he knows how to catch a pass too)... it seems like there's definitely a chance for some very solid starts. Warner also helped me make the RIFC playoffs last year... although that was in part due to a fortunate waiver pickup on the heels of the same failed "take a QB late" strategy (Leftwich and McNair) that I've wound up using again this year. Oops. It wasn't intentional strategy, just never seemed to be a point where I felt like a QB was a must based on the available values... hopefully it works out more advantageously than last year. I expect a few managers will grab a backup QB in the next couple rounds, so I needed to get on the ball with 2 consecutive QB picks in order to (hopefully) remain respectable here.
73for Beezer
      ID: 43441182
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 09:19
12.04 Cato June - LB, IND

One of the reasons a DL was taken at 11.11 and that I made the trade with Guru was that I thought it unlikely that any LBs would come off the board before this pick. Fortunately the guy I wanted stayed on the board so I could continue to round out my IDPs.

Cato seems to be fully recovered from off-season surgery and has recorded over 100 tackles the past two season. He showed last year that he can play through injury and deliver solid numbers. He only signed a one-year deal so he will be highly motivated to perform, and will have opportunities as the WLB in a Dungy Cover 2 defense. I like his chance to play at a #1 LB level if he stays healthy.

74youngroman
      ID: 43441182
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 09:20
12.05 Ladell Betts, RB, WAS
he is one of the few valuable backups still available. I really wanted Duckett here, but MC grabbed him 3 picks ago. With Portis still sidelined I see him in an increased role at the start of the season. I don't know if he will return some balls too this year or if that job is being done by another man.

thoughts, after yesterdays news (Duckett to the Redskins) came out:
why did I pick him? it is ironic that my other choice was Duckett. I have to wait and see how the situation works out in Washington. will he be the #1, #2 or #3 at the beginning of the season? where is he in week7 (bye of Deuce)? does he return kicks now with Duckett in town? too many questions and no answers yet.
75TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 09:23
12.06 Ben Watson, TE, NWE

Two Ben's in a row. Watson has been just under my radar for several rounds. I have a hard time pulling the trigger for a TE because they don't score that much and once you get out of the first couple of tiers, there isn't much separation between the remaining players. I have read good things about Watson and that the Patriots might even use him at WR for some plays. He is very fast for such a big guy and could be one of Brady's favorite targets this year. With all that said, he is just a TE and only got drafted because we have to have one.
76Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 11:12
for Valkyrie
12.07 Kevin Curtis WR STL
A reach but I really like Curtis and I am happy with him as my third WR. Although I probably could have waited another round I don't mind the reach to make sure I got him.
77Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 11:12
for culdeus
12.08 Ryan Moats, RB, PHI

Someone burned a pick on Betts before this IRC. As I have said to others Betts never showed me anything and I wasn't bummed to miss out on him at all. Moats represents a pretty good upside guy. I have doubts about Westbrook's health and longevity as the feature back/wr/everyman for Philly. Good RB4 pick here.
78Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 11:13
12.09 Lemar Marshall, LB, Was
My 4th IDP, second LB, and the 30th LB taken overall. He’ll start at MLB for the Redskins, and although I’ve read that he may not be the prototypical MLB or Washington’s long-term answer there, he seems relatively assured of retaining that role this year. If so, he should put up similar numbers to last year, which makes him a reasonable choice at this stage. And with 4 out of 6 IDP slots now filled, I feel like I have more flexibility to go with the flow for the next few rounds.

Cato June was actually on top of my list, but was taken by Beezer in the pick that I traded to him. However, June would have created some more bye stress, doubling up on week #6 with A.J. Hawk. Marshall’s bye week #8 will fit better, so maybe I’m better off.

79leggestand
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      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 13:39
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12.10 Tedy Bruschi, LB, NE
Tedy Bruschi would have been off the board a long time ago if it wasn't for his broken wrist. I didn't know when to pull the trigger, but I thought it was about time. The reports are saying he might be ready to play on opening day. If his wrist doesn't become a major problem for him, Bruschi could end up being a top 20 LB in this format. Realistically though, it will probably take a couple weeks for him to get into top form.
80leggestand
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      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 13:40
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12.11 Antwaan Randle El - WR, WAS
There are two parts to this rational:
Descriptive:
He might end up being #2 WR in this re-vamped offense. Considering his ultra-low TD's last year, it would be difficult not to improve upon that… oh yeah… and he should be handling KR/PR duties this year... due to which last year had him ranked 27th WR in our scoring format.
Comparative:
Wes Welker #21WR(112) - Drafted 8.03 (101) Antwaan Randle El #27WR(136) - Drafted 12.11(165)
81leggestand
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      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 13:48
12.12 Aaron Brooks, QB, OAK

With Bulger as my starting QB, who has never played a full 16 games, I felt like I needed to get a 2nd QB that has the ability to start for multiple weeks. I am not psyched about Brooks, and Brees was my top choice, but Brees had the same bye as Bulger. What I do like about Brooks is that he has some offensive weapons including Jordan and Moss. Last season, many owners drafted Kerry Collins as their starter based on these same facts, and although Collins ended up being a bust, Brooks is only on my team for back up measures. I also thought about taking McNair and Favre here, but went with Brooks as I saw him as the guy with the best bet to put up solid numbers.

For what its worth, I would of taken Ben Watson here is he made it to me.

Round 12 value: Kurt Warner. My projections ranked Warner as the #6 QB in the league IF he plays 16 games. He hasn't shown the ability to stay healthy, but this could end up being a huge pick for Doug. I also like the Watson and Cato June picks.
82GoatLocker
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      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 14:46
12.13 Dan Morgan, LB, Car
Where as I am usually the guy that takes little or no risk when he drafts, guess I have really managed to turn that around this year.
So, here I go taking a LB who has played 5 seasons and hasn't finished one of them because of multiple injuries.

Guess I am hoping he can show his potential and stay well all season.
83Guru
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      Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 10:30
for Hubble
12.14 Osi Umenyiora, DL, NYG


Shortest rationale for the coolest name. I don't know him. He was next on my DL list... took him and got rid of DL. Young on a good DEF.

For this pick i had a long Q and was sure i would have some1 left to pick from. This Q had: Aaron Brooks, Big Ben,Cato June, Kevin Curtis and Randel EL. Cant say i'm happy about this one.
84Guru
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      Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 10:31
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