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Subject: RIFC 2006: Regular season discussion #1
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Sat, Sep 02, 2006, 12:09
I will be processing the following six waiver claims shortly. Please speak up if anyone thinks I have incorrectly interpreted their claim.
round 1
s R: no claim
Motley Crue: add Olindo Mare (K, Mia); drop Chad Owens (WR, Jax)
Doug: add Travis Henry (RB, Ten); drop Adam Vinateiri (K, Ind)
Guru: no claim
youngroman: add Kerry Collins (QB, Ten); drop Brad JOhnson (QB, Min)
TB, valkyrie, culdeus: no claims
Beezer: add Tony Romo (QB, dal); drop sam Hurd (WR, Dal)
AG, IAC: no claims
leggestand: add Michael Robinson (RB, SF); drop Greg Jones (RB, Jax)
Goatlocker: no claim
Hubble: claim superceded
round 2
leggestand: add Pat Kerney (DL, Atl); drop Leon Washington (RB, NYJ)
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| 319 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 11:11
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TB,
You can always think back to season 1.
End of the first Round of Playoffs and Seeds 1-4 were all eliminated.
So, it can happen.
Don't hold your breath though :)
Cliff
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| 320 | Athletics Guy
ID: 301122514
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 19:44
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I'll be rooting for you too TB, since you're the lone Raiders representative. :)
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| 321 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Dec 07, 2006, 23:26
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Dang, way too much pressure. The Raiders sucked this year. USC had to lose to UCLA. I'm stuck starting Edge and Cedric Houston this week. I just can't handle this kind of pressure.
;)
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| 322 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 49108280
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 12:54
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Well... 5 minutes to basically the big day. Most of the 1st round will be decided within these few hours.
According to the brackets, I might get Guru in round two for a rematch of last years round 2. Here's hoping I get my chance for revenge.
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| 323 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 49108280
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 16:29
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Hmmm... TB fails to get McGee (inactive) outa his lineup, although he's got nobody on the bench that can go anyways. That might be a backbreaker in my matchup.
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| 324 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 22:09
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I almost started Big Ben this week too, but barring some monster game from Bruce it's not going to matter. Well, I can't jinx myself now that it looks like I am going to lose, so I will admit I was pretty happy with the play-off match-up dealt to me. No SR, Beezer, or Youngroman (top three scorers for the season) on this side of the bracket and my first round match-up was against a team that performed almost identical to mine all year; Up one week and down the next. Although you wouldn't know it by looking at our records, IAC scored slightly over 20 points more than me for the season which isn't even one point a game. I went back and looked at weekly points and it looks like he would have beat me 7-6 for the year. Not that any of that matters now, but I really did think I had a shot this week. Uggg. Good luck to those who advanced.
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| 325 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sun, Dec 10, 2006, 23:42
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Never Fails,
Beezer and I will be the top two scores of the weekend.
One of the two of us will not continue on.
Luck, luck, luck.
That's football for ya.
BOL all.
Cliff
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| 326 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 05:49
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Ain't that the way? Guru could still outscore both of us, but putting up 160+ and losing is just cruel.
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| 327 | Guru
ID: 341133118
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 09:33
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That's what some people hate about this game.
That's also what some people love about this game.
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| 328 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 11:28
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Nice win, Guru. That's twice in the past 3 weeks that you have put a ton of points on me. As usual, the RIFC has been a blast, and I will re-say that I think this was the most competitive the league has ever been with parity from top to bottom (except maybe s_R, whose team has been the top team in my eyes all season).
Hopefully I have done enough by getting the 4th seed to get the re-invite back to the RIFC next year. If not, AAA here I come.
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| 329 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 49108280
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 11:49
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RE 324/TB:
Not that it matters all that much, but:
Being seeded relatively high in the standings for quite some time, I had begun focusing on the FF Playoff Schedule, instead of just trying to finnish with most points over the season. Moves like dropping Huard/Chiefs/Colts/D.Carr where specifically taken with the playoffs in mind. Some of these players could have still helped me out a little longer along the way, but when I cut bait on them, I figured they were not able to produce enough during the playoffs to warrant a roster spot. So for me, it didn't really matter where I finnished, I just wanted to be sure I got into the playoffs, and then yes... it's an any given Sunday game (although we try our best to edge out the "luck" factor as much as possible).
and... IMHO, I love this game, and it's not "unfair", as Guru does his best to take into consideration several factors when picking out next years invites.
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| 330 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 49108280
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 12:35
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A look back to the Draft Recap:
3. Looking over all of the teams, which ones do you like the most (other than your own)?
Athletics Guy has a lot of high risk pics… could be a contender, or could be in a lot of trouble (like if those two QBs flop)
Analysis: QBs definetely were an issue for AG. He finnished the year sub-par in that slot although he managed to finnished with one of the hotest QBs in the league: Romo
The Beezer - Solid drafting, not many wholes. Top 3 IMO.
Analysis: Yup, finnished 3rd (2nd overall in points)
TB could be a volitile starting so many DBs, but has a solid team, and good depth.
Analysis: Consistency being what it is, having too many DBs that go off for HUGE games, and then bring you in a mediocre performance for the next week or two, leave you with good points overall on the season, but with a sub-par Wins/Loses record...which definety was the case. Still good enough to make the playoffs however (through the backdoor mind you).
Guru. Good team… but lack of WR depth a little questionable.
Analysis: Waiver Wire pickup Colston plugged that WR whole in a hurry, and pretty much put up TOP10 WR #s through the regular season. Not surprising that Guru finnished well (although struggled in the weeks with injuries to Colston).
Doug. Good team… but coulda been better had he not tried to start so many runs. (Overpayed for quality IDP)
Analysis: Ended up trading away his strengths, and got a "gimped up" studd RB. Was enough to write off his season.
MC (see TB)
Analysis: I really "missed out" on my analysis on this one. MC's RB strategy that has worked for him in previous years, really led to his downfall this year. That's why most of us spend our first two picks on RBS, cause otherwise... you never know what your getting.
SR like AG playoff hopes probably rely on the questionable health of the QB1.
Analysis: Palmer, unlike Culpeper, put up an amazing year. Finnishing #1 in points definetly not surprising.
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| 331 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 14:39
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RE: 326 that is truly heartbreaking! I can see in the finals, but first round--pretty tough to take. Guess the only way to address that would be having only 6 make the playoffs and having the highest scoring loser advancing in the first round like the consolation tourney. But any way you slice it, it's still H2H and you have to outscore your opponent.
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| 332 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 15:09
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...although struggled in the weeks with injuries to Colston
No question that the Colston pickup made my season. Wouldn't really say that I suffered much when he was out, though.
Week 11: Colston injured early in the game, so I got a zero from him. Lost one game by 35 and the other by 25 that week, so I'd probably have been 0-2 even with a healthy Colston, barring a monster game.
Week 12: Subbed in Devery Henderson, who scored 21.8, and went 2-0 with 178 points. Not much struggling.
Week 13: I went 1-1, and the loss was by 33 points. Again, not having Colston was irrelevant.
Actually, picking up Devery Henderson in week 10 turned out to be a key addition. Assuming nothing bizarre happens to spoil my opening playoff round, I'm even thinking of starting both Colston and Henderson next week. I probably won't, but it's a viable option.
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| 333 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 15:25
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Just thinking about how next year's draft might go. In particular, how might the RBs be ranked next year, and also QBs.
To recap the 2006 draft:
Running backs (pick selected - 1st 2 rounds)
L. Johnson (1)
Tomlinson (2)
Alexander (3)
T. Barber (4)
S. Jackson (5)
R. Johnson (6)
Portis (7)
Jordan (8)
E. James (9)
R. Brown (10)
Cadillac Williams (11)
McGahee (12)
W. Parker (14)
Westbrook (15)
Dunn (16)
K. Jones (17)
Droughns (18)
Bush (20)
Julius Jones (25)
C. Taylor (26)
Dillon (27)
Some notable flops in that list, including both of mine (Cadillac and Droughns)
Quarterbacks:
P. Manning (13)
Brady (48)
Hasselback (58)
E. Manning (59)
McNabb (64)
Bulger (67)
Palmer (70)
Delhomme (77)
Vick (79)
Culpepper (89)
Bledsoe (91)
Plummer (103)
Trent Green (116)
Leftwich (141)
Kitna (152)
Warner (157)
A. Brooks (166)
McNair (186)
Brees (190)
Rivers (191)
Favre (194)
We obviously had those all ranked just about right!
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| 334 | TB
ID: 72253110
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 17:21
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IAC - I believe you were looking towards the playoffs, but you are going to have a hard time convincing anyone that you weren't trying to score the most points you could every week. I wasn't trying to dog on your team, heck you finished #1. I was just explaining the rationale why I felt like I had a shot to win the game.
The truth is that someone has to have the least points scored against for the year and you happen to be the lucky one. Happens in every league. I am not sure what back-door I slipped through, either. My team is ranked 8th, scored the 8th amount of points, and 8 teams make the play-offs. From Guru post #315 - Interestingly, the playoff seedings are the same as they would have been using only W/L record. The teams seeded 7-8 are the same two teams (in the same order) using either W/L or total points.
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| 335 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 49108280
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 17:41
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RE 332: You are (of course) correct. I didn't 100% research every point. I was going by "perception". I figured that your drop in the standings had to do with losing him. My bad.
RE 334: Wasn't trying to insinuate that you didn't deserve to make the playoffs. Heck, I had your team in my list of most likely to make it... so it was no big surprise! I was just saying, that your making the playoffs WAS based upon making it into those last two spots. (which yes, would have still been the case if it was by standings)
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| 336 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 49108280
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 18:08
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2nd RE 334: As far as my "effort" any given week. Yes of course I was hoping for best points any given week, but I truthfully was watching SoS a lot for the playoffs since week 10; and in week 12 I put up my worst weekly output of the year (101.12).
Also, through weeks 10-13 I had been holding "damaged goods", hoping for them to get healthy for the playoffs: Gonzo, Berrian, Parker, whereas had that been earlier in the year or being in a situation of NEEDING to improve my standing, I may have cut bait.
Again... NO, I certainly wasn't "punting" any given week away.
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| 337 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 19:44
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I certainly don't think Peyton Manning was a flop. He was the number one ranked QB through Week 13. I mean, sure, there were other guys that were a bette value at the position, but I'm not ready to call him a bust or a flop. My RB options at pick 13 were piss poor, and I elected to take the safe route and go with the sure thing, knowing that I'd get a RB on the way back around at pick 16. Warrick Dunn might be called a flop, considering where I drafted him (#16).
This might seem like a dumb thing to do, but I am going to admit to it anyway because it's how I see things: I managed my way out of the playoffs this season. I missed prime opportunities again and again to start the right players (after working hard and getting the right kinds of guys onto my team) and I overthought it and blew the chance to be in the tournament. I should have started Merriman last week instead of Landon Johnson. That move alone would have gotten me in. And I almost did it, and then at the last minute I chickened out and gave into some dumb voice in my mind that said "They might ease him back into the game and not play him on every defensive snap".
My team was deficient at RB, certainly, but we all knew it would be, just like we all knew it'd be strong at QB and probably WR (which was the case until about the season's midpoint when the wideouts started to decline). I should have made the playoffs; considering where I picked, my draft was strong. I had good free agent and WW acquisitions. My team is a good team. The manager is just a dimwit.
But he learned an awful lot this season!
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| 338 | Motley Crue
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 19:53
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I just realized that what Guru meant was not that the second list was all flops, but that the first list had a few of them.
Of course knowing what I know now I'd have rather had Westbrook in round 1 and (Manning, Parker, or Dunn) in round 2. But I'm still satisfied with taking Manning first overall because the rest of my team should have (and could have) made up for my RB deficiencies.
OK, enough said.
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| 339 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 49108280
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 21:46
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I don't knock your draft strategy MC. It is just that... a strategy, and it very well coulda worked. (Almost surprised with your history it didn't)
Personaly, I'm a little more happy "getting by" with the Trent Green/Philip Rivers types for QB... and certainly agree with SR/AG's homerun swings on Palmer/CPep.
That said... I think we've "perfected" to an extent a ballanced OFF/IDP type drafting, and look forward to potential modifications for next year. I think we should consider adding a 2nd QB slot.
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| 340 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 22:12
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MC [338] It's hard for me to even figure out how you could intepret my comment about flops to apply to Peyton. Obviously, that isn't what I said or meant.
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| 341 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 22:19
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I was just asked by one of the QL commissioners if we had a rule about tiebreakers for playoff games.
I don't think we do. We simply allow ties during the regular season, but that obviously doesn't work for the playoffs. I don't think we've ever had a tie game in any season, and with our scoring formula for QB yardage and KR yardage, it's pretty unlikely to occur. But it certainly is possible.
Although there are many quantitative rules that could be applied, I think my preference would be to award a tied game to the better seed.
But I'm open to other ideas. Hopefully, it won't happen this year, and we can resolve it before next season.
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| 342 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 22:27
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In Gurupie 24, we've never had a tie in 5 years of play, but just in case, here is ours.
Playoff Game Tiebreak Policy:
1st tiebreaker: Most TD's scored
2nd tie: Most TD's passing
3rd tie: Highest single scoring player
4th tie Next highest scoring player and so on
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| 343 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 23:30
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In three years of the RIFC, the top regular season team in points has lost its first playoff game 2 out of 3 times.
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| 344 | youngroman
ID: 3751268
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 15:09
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nice that I reached the 2nd playoff round. I saw this coming because s_R was not that spectacular in the last few weeks.
I for myself am 10-1 since week 9. I have consistent scorers all over my team and if one part of my team plays below average (IDP this week), a different part steps up (TE).
I'm looking forward playing Beezer. this will be a much tougher matchup than last week.
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| 345 | Mr. Kotter
ID: 386122123
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 16:47
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Finnish: Of or relating to Finland or its people, language, or culture.
finish: To arrive at or attain the end of: finish a race.
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| 346 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 17:14
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Welcome back!
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| 347 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 06:21
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Last year, after putting up the highest point total of all playoff teams in week 14, I squared off against youngroman in the semifinals of RIFC AAA1. I can only hope that the similarities continue since I was able to win that game and go on to win the title.
This should be a good one, as we split the regular season series 1-1 and would have been 7-7 if we had played every week. Both teams have scored at least 133 points each of the last 4 weeks, and it wouldn't shock me if 150 wasn't good enough to win this week.
In the other semifinal, IAC and Guru meet up in a study of contrasts. Guru's team is heavily armed on the defensive side of the ball, while IAC has significant weapons on the offense that will put up a lot of points. I think I_AM_CANADIAN will take this one in a close game (hopefully because June is tackling Rudi 10 yards downfield about 20 times).
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| 348 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 121181617
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 08:03
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Prior to last nights SD vs KC game, I already didn't like my chances. But with Rivers/Gonzo going vs Philips (DL), I thought I'd close the gap somewhat. Anyways... short of a miracle tonight, looks like Guru knocked me off for the 2nd straight year in the semis.
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| 349 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 12:05
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I really thought that Rivers and Gonzo would at least get IAC close enough to give Cato June a shot to make it interesting. I certainly didn't expect Shaun Phillips to outpoint Rivers and Gonzo combined! If June gets 30 tonight, I think that'll be the all time single game record for a LB.
The other game - youngroman vs Beezer - looks like it could be a barnburner, with Beezer needing Rudi Johnson and Reggie Wayne to outpoint Cincy DB Madieu by more than 12. Given the way the Indy run def has been going, you have to like Rudi's chances to do that by himself, but this season seems to produce regular surprises.
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| 350 | youngroman
ID: 3751268
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 12:46
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looking at my top3 draft picks and what they did for me this week, when it counted:
1st Ronnie Brown: nada
2nd Steve Smith: 5.6pts (2nd worst player this week)
3rd Antonio Gates: 0.7pts (worst player this week)
I then look at whom I have on the bench:
Desmond Clark: 24.5pts (23.8 more that Gates)
Tennessee D: 34pts (23 more than Denver)
with these 2 performances I'd be well over 200pts this week. but who would have thought that Clark comes out of nowhere to score that much. not playing Tennessee could be more my fault.
I am debating if I should stay up this night because I am able to get the game live here in Austria, but I have not much confidence to advance because on a normal day Rudi should be huge and put up 20pts which makes it hard for Williams to catch up. lets see.
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| 351 | Valkyrie
ID: 507242617
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 13:49
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Question- Is there a tangible benefit such as getting to stay in the RIFC in 2007 which attaches to the consolation bracket winner or am I merely playing for pride? Yes I know that my regular season performance does not justify retaining a slot for next year but I am still hoping a late season 6 game winning streak if coupled with a consolation bracket championship could salvage an undeserved invitation but greatly appreciated (and coveted) second chance.
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| 352 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 14:06
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Just pride.
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| 353 | youngroman
ID: 3751268
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 14:18
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I don't know how and where, but I am now ahead by 15.12 points. I guess this makes it much easier now.
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| 354 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 14:42
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There are always a few scoring adjustments that go through on Monday, although it usually happens in the morning. I guess these were a little later.
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| 355 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Mon, Dec 18, 2006, 17:38
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I wouldn't trust those scoring adjustments - Tennessee's D is now credited with 40 points for 3 interception TDs and a fumble TD, which is tough to believe since they only scored 24 points.
I'll be going over to a friend's house tonight and likely NOT watching tonight's game. I like that since my guys are on opposite teams, I don't have to worry about really fluky time of possession differences hurting me. Based strictly on averages, I should pull it out, but I'm still nervous.
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| 356 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 11:24
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My uncanny fortune in the RIFC playoffs continues, as I'm now 6-0 in the first 2 rounds over three years.
My record in the championship game is only 1-1, so there's no streak to jinx there. It is exciting to be in the championship game for the third year, however.
Beezer, our matchup looks too close to call. If one team goes nuts, it could be a blowout. It also could be a cliffhanger, with Reggie Brown matched against Martin Gramatica on Monday.
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| 357 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 11:31
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Congrats Guru and to Beezer as well. Good luck to both of you this week. It should be a great final match-up.
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| 358 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 11:34
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Guru on a roll.
But, got to pull for Beezer since he beat me to get there.
Congrats to both on great seasons.
Cliff
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| 359 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Tue, Dec 19, 2006, 17:30
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Thanks everyone. Well, I'm thrilled to have held off YR to get to the title game, and I look forward to getting to compete with him again next year (as well as matching up in the consolation finals of our auction league, where he'll probably clobber me).
I guess it's appropriate that if I want to get into his HOF that I have to go through the man himself to do it. I concur with Guru that this matchup looks too close to call. FWIW, I won both games this season and am ahead in the season series, but both games were within single digits and this one will likely not be any different.
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| 360 | youngroman
ID: 3751268
Wed, Dec 20, 2006, 14:56
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congratulations Beezer. I could have won this game but I opted to pick the wrong TE and D this week. I hope that my performance was good enough to stay in this league and go for the title next year. I learned a lot this season and I hope that I can take advantage of it next year.
I see Beezer winning it this year because he has the better players at the primary skill positions. Guru needs a huge score from the Ravens Defense to make it intersting. good luck to both of you.
now I can safely sit back to watch the Saints winning the Superbowl this season and concentrate on my RIHC qualifying team. I'm looking good so far, even with an injured Odom.
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| 361 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 21, 2006, 12:01
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Looks like I am the first to leave the gate tonight, with Driver and two LBs going while Beezer's team watches from the sidelines.
Meanwhile, 3 of my 5 RBs are now listed as questionable this week. It's not as critical as it sounds, since RB has been a very weak slot for me all year (in spite of drafting RBs in the first 2 rounds). If none of the questionables start, I may end up with a RB corps of Davenport and Hicks, two guys who have never started for me all season. Yikes. Then again, it's not like Cadillac and Droughns would be much better, even if healthy.
So, I'd give the advantage to Beezer as well. Barring a Beezer meltdown, my success will depend on strong results from my WRs and IDPs as usual, a respectable showing from Eli, plus a big game from Baltimore in Pittsburgh. So a fast start tonight is important.
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| 362 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Dec 25, 2006, 20:14
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Congrats to Beezer!
The final game was essentially lost when Eli and Shockey combined for less than 5 points on Sunday. The rest of my team essentially came in on average (other than Reggie Brown today), but no one overachieved to make up for the Giant letdown.
In a way, it's probably just as well that I was out of it before today's game. If it had been close, the 2.7 from Reggie Brown would have been quite frustrating.
No regrets. I overachieved a bit just by getting to the final game. How I managed to get there with such a pitiful RB corps is hard to fathom.
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| 363 | The Beezer
ID: 510292517
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 08:56
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Thanks Guru. I was pretty amazed myself that you were able to make the title game with that RB group. I get the feeling that you could draft a team straight off the waiver wire after the draft and take them to the finals - well done!
This is the league that I've wanted to win more than any other ever since it was formed, so I'm thrilled to have reached my goal in that regard. I was playing for 3rd in a money league this week and I might have looked at that team twice, while I looked at this team several times a day just making sure I hadn't overlooked something.
This is the exclamation point on a fantastic year for me, and I'm looking forward to returning next year and giving it my best to do it again. Thanks to everyone in the league and in the qualifying leagues for making this such a fun and competitive competition.
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| 364 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 09:04
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Congrats Beezer. Solid performance from your team throughout the entire playoffs. Thanks to everyone in the league for a fun and challenging season. See some of you next year in AAA.
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| 365 | youngroman
ID: 3751268
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 09:41
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Beezer - congratulations. you deserve the win. your team out-scored every other playoff team in all 3 playoff weeks. enjoy your win for the next 9 months.
Guru - thanks for putting these competitve leagues together and inviting me to the big one this year.
all - thanks for an enjoyable first RIFC-season for me. it was a tough year. I started out slow, but recovered till the end. I finished the season strong and if it would have last a few more weeks I would have been even better. I hope I can use this knowledge next year to improve my performance. 4th place in the first year is not that bad, so there is only little room to improve. and finally: go Saints!
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| 366 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 26, 2006, 12:56
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AA Results:
Champion: Greybear
Runner-up: Ref
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| 367 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Dec 29, 2006, 13:53
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Beezer, Congrats on your championship; very well deserved. I do want to note that I did put you as one of my favorites going into the season, so, you can thank me for that. Andra Davis and Lofa Tatupu also called me to say thanks for giving them an opportunity to play for a champion.
On a slightly off topic note, Beezer, you'd be surprised (scared) how much my wife, myself, and her family talk about you since you joined our Pick 'Em Division!
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| 368 | The Beezer
ID: 2045218
Tue, Jan 02, 2007, 19:49
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Probably along the lines of "How can somebody be THAT consistently bad at this game?" :)
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Post a reply to this message: (But first, how about checking out this sponsor?)
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