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Subject: TO Attempted Suicide.....Discuss
Posted by: culdeus
- [28121320] Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 09:09
The Ticket in Dallas reports that the TO "drug reaction" was in fact a suicide attempt by taking 35 vicodins.
For latest info I'd tune to www.theticket.com and click on listen.
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| 1 | Tree
ID: 1411442914
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 09:34
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Dallas Morning News reporting the same thing...
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| 2 | Dec
ID: 198481912
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 10:22
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I expect anything from T.O. but "suicide profile candidate" is the last thing on my list.
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| 3 | Tree
ID: 1411442914
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 10:31
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more from Yahoo, via AP...
DALLAS (AP) -- Flamboyant Dallas Cowboys receiver Terrell Owens tried to kill himself by overdosing on pain medication, police said, even putting two more pills into his mouth after a friend intervened.
A Dallas police report released Wednesday morning said Owens told his friend "that he was depressed." Details of the report were first released by WFAA-TV.
The friend, who is not identified in the report, "noticed that (his) prescription pain medication was empty and observed (Owens) putting two pills in his mouth," the police report said.
The friend attempted to pry them out with her fingers, then was told by Owens that before this incident he'd taken only five of the 40 pain pills in the bottle he'd emptied. Owens was asked by rescue workers "if he was attempting to harm himself, at which time (he) stated, `Yes."'
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| 4 | Pancho Villa
ID: 366352418
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 10:52
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It makes no sense, but then, it is TO.
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| 5 | Dec
ID: 198481912
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 10:54
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Well, there was a full practice schedule today
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| 6 | Rendle
ID: 9826411
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 11:14
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His publicist who dialed 911 is now claiming that the suicide attempt is false and he was answering the questions the way he did because he was groggy from the pills.
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| 7 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 11:40
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His publicist who dialed 911 is now claiming that the suicide attempt is false and he was answering the questions the way he did because he was groggy from the pills.
Key words from that sentence? "His publicist said." Would we really expect anything different from his publicist?
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To me, it's a bit of a shock on one hand, but not so much on the other. TO is clearly a person who has a history of screaming out for attention. Those types of people can easily become depressed if they're not receiving the attention they crave. It's been quite some time since TO has been the TO we "know and love" and I can easily see him being depressed by the lack of attention; the lack of being in the spotlight.
It's said that suicide attempts are not as much about a person wanting to kill themselves as it is a cry for help/attention. Maybe this is TO's call for attention. If so, it's worked. He's certainly getting attention, though I'm not sure this will be the kind of attention he ultimately wants/craves.
Okay, I'm done being a psychiatrist for today. ;)
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| 8 | Tree
ID: 1411442914
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 11:51
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the mystery deepens...
Lt. Rick Watson, a Dallas police spokesman, said police are conducting no investigation of the events at Owens' home.
He described it as "a medical situation" and said any further information would not come from police. He also indicated that the police report had been released prematurely.
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| 9 | wqrtyt
ID: 517212322
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 12:20
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I doubt he tried to commit suicide
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| 10 | boikin
ID: 59831214
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 12:43
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i think TO just joined Clarrett in the truley mentally unstable atlete department where ego and depression meet.
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| 11 | Balrog
Dude
ID: 02856618
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 12:43
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Yeah wqrtyt, attempted suicide is the ultimate act of selfishness, and we all know TO is anything but selfish.
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| 12 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 12:54
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The Police are stating it is not a criminal offense yet won't confirm anything. Sounds to me like the police aren't allowed to confirm it but did support some of the initial reports.
TO is going to speak from his house in 5 minutes or so (1pm est) and the cowboys are going to speak on it at 2:30 est).
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| 13 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 12:55
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Also, ESPN News is saying that TO's good friend is stating that TO was depressed and under a lot of pressure and was feeling the weight of the world on him recently.
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| 14 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 13:14
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espn news is reporting that to told another friend today that he is going to say that it was not an attempted suicide and that it is an allergic reaction to medication and supplements. Several "experts" are saying that this is damage control and that TO has been asked to seek mental health treatment in SF and Philly because of his severe mood swings. They are saying that his publicist was acting as a friend last night and a publicist today.
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| 15 | holt
ID: 10830261
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 14:08
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anyone else see the show that ESPN ran about T.O. the other night? I didn't watch the whole thing, but it appeared to be a program entirely about him and attempted to cover everything he has done in his career that became a "story".
when I was watching it, the thought crossed my mind about what T.O. would think while watching it. it was pretty raw. there were a lot of opinions and judgements made. I would bet that T.O. was watching, and if these stories of attempted suicide are true, it couldn't have helped.
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| 16 | holt
ID: 10830261
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 14:16
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one more thing. I've noticed that some reporters try to set up T.O. with certain questions in an attempt to create controversy. the most recent example being their attempts to get him to say something about the Bledsoe/Romo situation.
yeah T.O. creates problems for himself, but there is definitely no shortage of people who anxiously gobble up any negative tidbit surrounding him.
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| 17 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 177202912
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 14:19
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The weight of the world on him?
He catches balls for a living.
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| 18 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 14:52
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dallas police said that attempted suicide is not a criminal offense in texas, but wouldn't confirm that TO attempted suicide, citing privacy issues. In fact, they wouldn't confirm anything. Might be them trying to cover themselves because of the privacy laws.
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| 19 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 14:54
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the cowboys have just listed TO as questionable instead of out. Interesting.
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| 20 | Kyle
ID: 52753312
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 15:09
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Maybe that means he questionable on staying with the team. Or questionable on being suicidial? That is an interesting listing.
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| 21 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 15:16
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holt, yeah T.O. creates problems for himself, but there is definitely no shortage of people who anxiously gobble up any negative tidbit surrounding him.
They do it because they know there's a HIGH likelihood that he'll give them the controversial answer they want.
If I point to two water hoses and tell you that Hose A will not give you water and Hose B will give you water, which one are you going to when you want water? It's no different for reporters that need a story to keep the checks coming in.
I know if I was a football reporter and had access to TO, I'd be asking him every controversial question I could.
C.SuperFreak, The weight of the world on him? He catches balls for a living.
Well, if you have nothing else to fall back on and your entire world is built upon the millions of dollars you get from catching footballs and if that entire world would shatter when you were no longer catching footballs, I can see how he felt like the weight of the world was upon him, particularly with his latest injury and recent string of injuries which will likely call into question the millions of dollars he's making now and in future contracts.
Is it reasonable for him to think that way? I suppose it depends on how much money he's saved up over the years, but I certainly can't imagine it being easy to live the High Life for a while and then return to Earth.
I know people who worry day-to-day about whether or not they'll have a job when they show up in the morning even though there's no basis for those thoughts. Maybe TO's been having thoughts about how long he'll have a career with his recent injuries. Could that make him depressed? Let's just say that I don't see how it would make him happy.
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| 22 | Tree
ID: 1411442914
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 15:57
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No suicide attempt says Owens
and he was at practice today. you don't attempt suicide, then get released 12 hours later.
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| 23 | boikin
ID: 59831214
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 16:00
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KKB well put i think you really made some good pionts and just becuase some one is making millions does not mean they can not be depressed. It is all realitive to the individual.
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| 24 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 16:06
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Watching his press conference, here is my take on things...
His publicist Kim is a liar. Whether he really tried to commit suicide or not, Kim believed that he was committing suicide. She made a statement to police saying he was depressed and sayin she had to take two out of his mouth. Today she is saying that she never said that and that a couple pills may have fallen out of his mouth when she went to him after he was non-responsive.
TO said that he separated the other pills in another drawer. He does admit that he took extra pain pills because he was incoherent after an allergic reaction. From TO's conference, it's hard to believe that he just tried to commit suicide, though what he said and Kim said and all the reports don't add up.
Perhaps he took extra pills to try and get over the pain and accidently overdosed? I don't know but he denies that he is depressed or he had his stomach pumped.
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| 25 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 49848118
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 16:18
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His publicist Kim is a liar.
And she was terrible. "He has $25 million reasons not to". Probably the most unprofessional thing I've ever heard a celebrity publicist say. Sounds like (based also on the repeated statement from various media that she was acting as his friend last night and his publicist today) she might have gotten herself in trouble with her boss for letting the PR situation get out of hand with statements she made regarding depression.
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| 26 | rooter
ID: 328422714
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 16:42
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Philadelphia sports talk radio host Haward Eskin just told the fans to bring prescription medicine bottles to the game and sing the TO song as OD-ODODOD---OD---ODeeee.
A jerk move, but I cant wait for Oct. 8.
I dont think that the politically correct NFL will be able to point a camera at the crowd with all the evil signs Philly fans are going to have out.
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| 27 | Tree
ID: 1411442914
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 16:47
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from this article, it appears to me as if the media jumped the gun...
Owens said Wednesday the confusion likely stemmed from an empty bottle of pain medication found by his publicist, who was with him at the time and called 911. He said the rest of the pills were in a drawer...
...Rescue workers arrived at Owens' home around 8 p.m. Tuesday and took him to an emergency room. When word spread, publicist Kim Etheredge said it was an allergic reaction.
But the story shifted Wednesday morning when several media outlets received a police report — that had yet to be released by the authorities — saying Owens had attempted suicide by overdosing on the painkillers, even putting two more pills into his mouth after an unidentified friend, later identified as Etheredge, intervened...
..When officially released by police, about half the document was blacked out, including the phrases "attempting suicide by prescription pain medication" and "a drug overdose," as well as the details of Owens having two pills pried from his mouth and Owens saying "Yes" when asked if he intended to harm himself.
"I was kind of out of it," Owens said. "I can barely even remember the doctors, much less the police officers asking me questions."
to me, this is the case of the media seeing a potentially big story, and running with it before getting proof/confirmation.
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| 28 | barilko6
ID: 1085657
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 16:49
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My thoughts after over the last 7 years working with kids who have overdosed...You don't look as coherent and alive as TO did at the press conference after swallowing 35 pills. Even if your stomach is pumped, you still are out of it for at least a day or two.
Not saying the whole story adds up, including the part where TO claimed he "separated" his pills and put some of them in a drawer.
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| 29 | wqrtyt
ID: 517212322
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 16:58
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Balrog, looks like I was right
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| 30 | rooter
ID: 24842716
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 18:04
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He takes different amounts of different suppliments a day + pain killers. Most people spread out their pills for the entire day that morning and sometimes even a week in advance. You can buy boxes for this purpose at any drug store. Instead of counting out everthing 15 times a day, it saves time to do it all at once. It is conceivable that he mixed up the pain killers with a similar looking suppliment or came up with a certain combination just didn\\\\\\\'t go together.
I hate T.O. as much as the next guy, but I am pretty much on his side on this one. It sounds like the media blew everything out of proportion without having all the facts (like they always do with T.O.).
Besides, I want to have a clear conscience when Brian Dawkins kills him for real on Oct. 8.
Go Eagles!
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| 31 | smiles
ID: 198272117
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 18:11
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Dawkins is a punk, TO will burn PHI when he returns!
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| 32 | barilko6
ID: 1085657
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 18:13
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re: 30
The "separating in the drawer" comment that I was referring to was the fact that his wife claimed she saw an empty bottle laying on the floor beside her husband. Then TO said he had taken some of the pills out of the bottle and put them a drawer.
I definitely understand the separating of pills into regular dosages, see it often, but from TO's comments, that he "took some of the pills out of the bottle and put them into a drawer", that didn't mesh with me I guess. Could be what he meant though.
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| 33 | FUGAZI
ID: 074720
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 18:48
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I heard it was actualy rat poison that he ate. and it was only to kill the gerbil that was stuck in his bowels. but things went terribly wrong.
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| 34 | Balrog
Dude
ID: 02856618
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 18:57
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wqrtyt, I wasn't saying you were wrong, just that it wasn't out of character for TO.
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| 35 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 01:08
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Terrell Owens' trainer says recent events in the wide receiver's life may have contributed to his depression and/or attempt to commit suicide.
The trainer says Owens encountered a "perfect storm" upon learning he wouldn't be allowed to see his son on his seventh birthday, then hours later, Owens' fiancee left him. Whether he tried suicide or not, T.O.'s psyche can't be solid. We doubt it affects his on-field performance.
Source: Dallas Morning News
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| 36 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 16:25
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Dallas Police want an apology from Kim Ethridge and TO.
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| 37 | Tree
ID: 478352818
Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 23:35
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how about the Dallas Police apologizing to TO for releasing a police report before the investigation was even close to done?
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| 38 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Sep 29, 2006, 10:05
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WR Terrell Owens fired his trainer, James Primm, who had been outspoken in the media this week.
It seemed odd that the source on many of the reports over the past couple days was Owens' trainer and sure enough Owens said Thursday that Primm "had no business" discussing his private life with the media. "He shouldn't have been telling you anything about my personal life anyway," Owens said. "That's where it stops, right there. He should have never said anything remotely involving me or my personal life, especially my son or even my ex-girl."
Source: Dallas Morning News
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| 39 | Ender
ID: 5963859
Fri, Sep 29, 2006, 12:23
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He should consider firing his publicist too while he's at it IMO.
In fact I think players as a whole ought to be very dubious of the media these days. The race for the scoop seems to be more important than accurate reporting.
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| 40 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Jan 09, 2007, 11:42
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Better Late than Never, Ender!
TO Fires Publicist
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