Posted by: smiles
- [32952910] Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 12:58
D. Rhodes + Keyshawn for TO
My league allows you to play 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DEFST, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE) non-ppr
I am playing right now: mcnabb tiki t. jones rhodes s. smith t. holt d. clark naeding cinci def/st
I know that TO will break out this year and his point production will increase > rhodes over the long haul.
If rhodes starts losing carries to adai, then this would be a good trade.
I am thinking of benching TO for a few weeks until he starts connecting with bledsoe.
In the mean time, I can start barlow/dayne/matt jones.
What do you think?
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smiles
ID: 32952910 Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 16:23
i'm 4-1 in my league and have a pretty easy schedule, is it worth the gamble?
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sarge33rd
ID: 76442923 Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 16:35
not IMHO. I dont see TO fitting in all that well. Bledsoe and Glenn have a well established ability to "connect". Frankly, I see TO whining in the not terribly distant future, Parcells getting sick of it, and either TO or Parcells leaving Dallas over it.
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leggestand
ID: 46937910 Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 16:36
Losing Rhodes hurts somewhat, as your RB depth falls dramatically. When is Thomas Jones' bye, and can you find a decent filler that week (or how is Dayne's matchup)? What are the available RB on the FA market? Can you get this guy to throw in a 4th RB to take a chance on since he needs to drop someone anyway?
On the surface, I say do it. You would have arguably the 3 best WR's in the game, and would only lose a guy in a RBBC and the 2nd WR for Carolina (who is good, but you never want to start him AND Steve Smith just in case Carolina puts up an egg). You just need to make sure that if Tiki or Jones goes down, you believe you are covered.
At 4-1, though, it's always hard to make a trade as you don't want to trade away your success.
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weykool Leader
ID: 41750315 Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 16:47
Taking TO....are you nutz?
TO is a has been. Yesterday he dropped a pass over the middle because he anticipated getting hit. The old TO would have made a 40 yard gain as there was nobody that close to him.
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smiles
ID: 32952910 Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 16:51
my success = mcnabb would it be a good move to sell high on him due to his schedule?
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smiles
ID: 32952910 Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 16:52
I'm pretty sure rhodes's carries will go down..
I see the significant speed diff between rhodes and adai...
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smiles
ID: 32952910 Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 16:54
cmon TO is in his prime of his career.. this guy's really in shape. I just think his and bledsoe's timing is off
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leggestand
ID: 46937910 Mon, Oct 09, 2006, 18:04
I wouldn't trade McNabb. Although McNabb's production must go down, unless you can get another top tier QB (a Hasselbeck type) and RB/WR (a Chad Johnson type) whose byes have passed. Basically, McNabb is untradeable, as I don't know if you can get enough for him. By all means try, but expect him to end up the #1-2 QB all season, and value him accordingly.
As for TO, he isn't a has been, but he is a mental case. Keyshawn Johnson is almost worthless to you, based on my reasoning above. Unless Steve Smith gets hurt (again), you will have a hard time starting him because of too much reliance on Carolina. He's basically just a handcuff for Smith, and when did handcuffing WR's become important?
So, then the trade, to you, comes down to Rhodes for Owens. Smiles, I agree with your points on Rhodes vs Addai. I have to imagine that Addai takes over at some point, as he just appears to be a more explosive player. With that logic, Rhodes will likely be worthless to you during your playoffs, which you probably will qualify for pretty easily as you are sitting at 4-1 with an "easy schedule."
Will the trade work out? Who knows, as TO is a risk, but that's how all trades are. But when breaking it down, it seems that you are trading away two players who may be worth little to you in week 10+, for a guy that could easily end up a top 10 WR. I say do it. Before I hit accept, though, I would also test out the market, because maybe you can get an even less risky top tier WR for the same guys, as I think Keyshawn may interest a bunch of people.
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Vee
ID: 44644109 Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 16:49
Parcells won't throw the ball enough to make TO as valuable as he has been in the past. I believe he is the best WR out there, unfortunately he is in the wrong offense. Pass on the trade.
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smiles
ID: 198272117 Tue, Oct 10, 2006, 18:30
leggestand nice analysis!
thanks for everyone's input! -smiles
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weykool Leader
ID: 41750315 Wed, Oct 11, 2006, 10:00
My prediction is by the end of the season TO will be a complete bust.
A WR is dependent on the QB getting him the ball. When you start complaining and ranting on the sidelines about not getting the ball and the QB is a veteran like McNabb or Bledsoe it is not a good thing.
A QB doesnt need TO to be successful, they can find other recievers, but TO sure as hell needs the QB. You dont diss your QB on national TV and expect there wont be negative consequences. The only way I trade for TO is if I have a bench player who is waiver wire material anyways.
Bledsoe, the Cowboys' linemen, NASA, and the Samsung corporation have not commented on Owens' remarks, though Karzai took time yesterday to call Owens a "pass-dropping bitch a--hole" on the floor of the United Nations.
roflmao
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smiles
ID: 5745283 Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 12:40
TO better get 100 yrds + 1 td today vs. HOU...
if he doesn't break out today... I don't see him having a good season
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sarge33rd
ID: 76442923 Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 12:45
TO isnt even "on speaking terms", with the Dal WR coach! Glenn will have the breakout day. TO, will be trade bait this off season.
from cbssportsline:
Terrell Owens said on his radio show Friday that his relationship with Dallas Cowboys receivers coach Todd Haley was ruined by a blowup this week. It began when Owens missed the start of Wednesday's practice because of an upset stomach, and Haley berated him for being late. Owens held his tongue then, but they later argued during a meeting. From now on, T.O. said, "there will be nothing else, no other dialogue" between him and Haley. (Updated 10/14/2006).
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smiles
ID: 5745283 Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 12:51
who cares about the WR coach.. he's still starting..
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Promize
ID: 141018197 Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 15:24
2 - Td's for T.O. Maybe they shouldn't talk to each other more often?
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smiles
ID: 32952910 Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 16:00
That's what I'm talking abouttttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Terrell all dayyyyyyy!!! Owens all seasonnnnn!!!!
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smiles
ID: 5745283 Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 23:20
3tds!!
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