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Subject: The Herschel Walker Trade
Posted by: Great One
- Sustainer [053272014] Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 10:58
The Trade
Minnesota Vikings
RB Herschel Walker
Dallas's 3rd round pick - 1990 (54)
San Diego's 5th round pick - 1990 (116)
Dallas's 10th round pick - 1990 (249)
Dallas's 3rd round pick - 1991 (68)
Dallas Cowboys
LB Jesse Solomon
LB David Howard
CB Isaac Holt
RB Darrin Nelson
DE Alex Stewart
Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1991 (21)
Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1990 (47)
Minnesota's 6th round pick in 1990 (158)
Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1991 (conditional) - (11)
Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1991 (conditional) - (38)
Minnesota's 1st round pick in 1993 (conditional) - (13)
Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1992 (conditional) - (40)
Minnesota's 3rd round pick in 1992 (conditional) - (71) |
| 1 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 11:00
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I was curious if anyone had a list of all the players acquired with these picks. I found a short list with Emmitt Smith and Darren Woodson etc. But there seems to be many more picks than are actually on that list. Perhaps they only listed the notable players? or traded up/down a bunch? I guess I'd like to know what 10-12 guys they actually landed because of moving Herschal.
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| 2 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 11:21
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Russell Maryland and Kevin Smith were 2 of those draft picks as well.
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| 3 | Tree
ID: 29082512
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 11:23
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I was curious if anyone had a list of all the players acquired with these picks.
let's see how this one does:
On April 19, 1990 Dallas traded Minnesota's 2nd pick and Kansas City's 3rd pick in 1990 to San Francisco for RB Terrence Flagler, DE Daniel Stubbs, SF 3rd round pick in 1990 and SF 11th round pick in 1990.
On April 22, 1990 (draft day), Dallas traded Minnesota's 1st pick in 1990 and SF 3rd pick in 1990 to Pittsburgh for Pitt's 1st round pick (#21 and #81 for #17) and selected RB Ambit Smith. With the #21 pick, Pittsburgh selected TE Eric Green. Minnesota picked TE Mike Jones with the #54 pick, WR Reggie Thorton with the #116 pick and WR Pat Newman with the #249 pick. San Francisco selected DT Dennis Brown with the #47 pick. Dallas traded Minnesota's 6th round pick, an 8th round pick from NE, a 9th round pick from Seattle, a 10th round pick from Indianapolis and an 11th round pick from San Francisco to the LA Raiders for LA's fifth round choice in 1990, DB Stan Smagala (#122 overall). Minnesota's 6th round pick (#158) ended up in New Orleans who selected LB James Williams (Mississippi State). San Francisco's 3rd and 11th round picks (#81 and #304 overall) ended up with New Orleans (DL Craig Veasey - Houston) and LA Raiders (RB Myron Jones from Fresno State) respectively.
On September 3, 1990 Dallas traded Minnesota's 2nd round pick in 1991 (#38 overall) and its own 5th round pick in 1991 (#105 overall) to Houston for RB Alonzo Highsmith.
On April 19, 1991 (draft) Dallas traded Minnesota's 1st pick, Dallas' 2nd, DB Ron Francis, LB David Howard and LB Eugene Lockhart to New England for New England's 1st pick (#1 overall) and selected DT Russell Maryland. With Minnesota's pick (#11 overall) New England selected OL Pat Harlow. With the #38 pick, Houston picked DB Darryl Lewis (Arizona). With Dallas' 3rd round pick (#68 overall) Minnesota selected WR Jake Reed.
On Sept. 16, 1991 Dallas traded LB Jesse Solomon to New England (who sent him to TB) for New England's 6th round pick (#149 overall) in 1992.
On April 26, 1992 (draft) Dallas traded Minnesota's 1st and 3rd round picks (#13 and #71 overall) to New England for NE 1st, 2nd and 4th round picks (#19, #37 and #104 overall). Dallas traded the #19 and #104 picks to Atlanta for Atlanta's 1st and 5th round picks (#17 and #120 overall). Dallas traded Minnesota's 2nd round pick (#40 overall) to Kansas City for 2nd and 3rd round picks (#47 and #74 overall). Dallas traded the #47, #74 picks to Washington for a 2nd and a 3rd round pick (#56 and #58 overall). Dallas traded the #56 pick to Detroit for 3rd, 4th and 9th round picks (#82, #109 and #250 overall).
In the 1992 draft Dallas selected CB Kevin Smith (#17 - Texas A&M), S Darren Woodson (#37 - Arizona State), CB Clayton Holmes (#58 - Carson Newman, OL James Brown (#82 - Virginia State), G Tom Myslinski (#109 - Tennessee), S Greg Briggs (#120 - Texas Southern), TE Fallon Wacasey (#149 - Tulsa), S Chris Hall (#250 - East Carolina). New England selected T Eugene Chung (#13 - Virginia Tech) and RB Kevin Turner (#71 - Alabama) and Kansas City selected QB Matt Blundin (#40 - Virginia) with Minnesota's original picks.
The 1992 draft completed the trade. Herschel Walker was released by the Vikings in May 1992 and was picked up by Philadelphia and eventually ended up back with the Cowboys in 1996. Mike Jones was supposed to be the replacement for Jordan but never lived up to expectations; he was waived in 1992. Thorton did not make the team, Newman was lost in Plan B (Saints). Jake Reed is still with the Vikings. The Cowboys waived Holt in 1993 (Kevin Smith took over); Highsmith, Fragler, Stubbs were disappointments and were waived after a year; the lower picks in 1992 did not make the team.
The end results of the trade after 1992:
Vikings:
WR Jake Reed
Cowboys:
RB Emmitt Smith
DT Russell Maryland
CB Kevin Smith
S Darren Woodson
CB Clayton Holmes
Players selected with the actual picks traded to Dallas:
1990 1st Round (#21) TE Eric Green Pittsburgh
1990 2nd Round (#47) DT Dennis Brown San Francisco
1990 6th Round (#158) LB James Williams New Orleans
1991 1st Round (#11) OT Pat Harlow New England
1991 2nd Round (#38) DB Darryl Lewis Houston
1992 1st Round (#13) OL Eugene Chung New England
1992 2nd Round (#40) QB Matt Blundin Kansas City
1992 3rd Round (#71) RB Kevin Turner New England
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| 4 | C1-NRB
ID: 24954318
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 11:55
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This and the Babe Ruth trade had the biggest impact in the history of their respective sports.
Any thoughts on what might qualify in basketball and hockey? Lew Alcinder from Milwaukee to the Lakers had a significant impact. I haven't followed hockey long enough to know much of its history.
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| 5 | Electroman
ID: 181372119
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 12:14
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In hockey, the Canadians trading Patrick Roy and Mike Keane(captain at the time) to the Avs for Martin Rucinsky, Andrei Kovalenko and Joclyn Thibault, maybe. The Avs won the cup the year of the trade and again in 2001, also winning the Conn Smythe that year(MVP of the Playoffs). The Canadians haven't recovered, and still talk about it to this day.
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| 6 | barilko6
ID: 2825597
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 13:14
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I think trading Wayne Gretzky to Los Angeles for Jimmy Carson, Martin Gelinas, 3 first round picks (Jason Arnott was one) and $15 million USD was a pretty monumental one at the time. This was THE greatest player in the game, of all time, and still in his prime. This trade also opened the door for hockey in places like Anaheim, Dallas, and Phoenix.
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| 7 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 13:32
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Tree, that certainly helps, but its tricky because if they traded the Minnesota picks for other multiple other picks, it doesn't always follow up and say what they did with those choices - just the original picks.
You'd think somewhere there would be a complete list of what all those draft picks netted them.
Or I guess I could spend my afternoon at work going through old drafts and looking those picks up! :0 We'll see how the afternoon goes lol...
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| 8 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 13:33
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And who is this Wayne Gretzky guy everyone's talking about? does he go by any other alias' that I am not aware of!?!
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| 9 | Electroman
ID: 181372119
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 14:00
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Janet's Husband
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| 10 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 14:09
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Wouldn't that make him "Mr. Jones" then? I always wondered what that song was about. Now it all makes sense. It's about gambling and hockey.
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| 11 | barilko6
ID: 2825597
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 14:36
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RE: 7 Or you could spend the afternoon trying to figure out how to trade me a starting pitcher in the Lucky 13 league.
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| 12 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Mar 22, 2007, 14:53
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I can do that! :)
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