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Subject: TSN Football Strategies...
Posted by: Bond, James Bond
- Donor [04352469] Tue, Aug 07, 2007, 08:50
Fellow Gurupies....I am relatively new to TSN's football game and would appreciate any assistance I can get in relation to how one can be competitive.
I am assuming, of course, that one MUST build up his/her roster value as quickly as possible as in other TSN fantasy games. As such, I'm presuming that the dreaded bye weeks allows one to somewhat easily to build RV. But how important is RV and in its relation to other TSN games, is it easier or harder to build RV in football? Furthermore, is it as important?
Also, where does one begin his/her research on these teams? There is an outstanding number of sites/magazines, etc. that can help but I am afraid of information overload. So I'll keep it simple: Where can one get the best information that is actually updated often? I like ESPN and CNNSI but I also am leaning a lot toward a site I had heard earlier about called KFFL. It seems decent enough.
Finally, how does one manage to actually fill out a "playable" roster with the prices the way they are? Now, I'm not upset with the prices per se as I feel they can lead to a more diverse range of rosters, but I'm actually concerned where to begin filling my rosters out. Do I start with the Mannings or Tomlinsons of the world or should I draft more sensibly? Do I take a kicker and just leave him all year (barring his bye week...or maybe including his bye week). Are four trades a week enough and where should they be used?
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| 1 | Bluzy
ID: 361046197
Wed, Aug 08, 2007, 11:08
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I've been playing TSN for several years and have had some pretty good years. Here's my advice.
-----------I am assuming, of course, that one MUST build up his/her roster value as quickly as possible as in other TSN fantasy games.
Nice of you to include us hers in that! ha
------------As such, I'm presuming that the dreaded bye weeks allows one to somewhat easily to build RV. But how important is RV and in its relation to other TSN games, is it easier or harder to build RV in football? Furthermore, is it as important?
Yes, building roster value is what the main goal is for the first 9-10 weeks of the schedule. Once the bye weeks are over, the opportunities for large gains diminish. Of course, you want to stay in the hunt as far as points go...but a couple of years ago I had a team that was 3000 points out of the money in week 10, and I had a couple of great weeks and ended the season #12 overall. So, don't ever think you're out of it.
The roster value (RV) will determine your ability to separate your roster from others. More money does give you the ability down the line to own the best players at each position. Team owners who don't play for the money up front often are handicapped at the end of the season because they can't afford to field the players who crank out the points every week. Of course, if there are significant injuries to the starters (ie KC's Priest 2 years ago) and the backups (ie LJ) step up and play exceptionally well, then having $70 million RV becomes less important. About $68 to $72 million is the goal. More is better, but NOT at the expense of using too many trades too early in the season.
If you find the sleepers at the beginning of the season, gaining RV is easy. 4 trades a week is sometimes a challenge. If you have injured players AND players on their BYE week, well, sometimes that limits your ability to make the RV moves. It's important to stockpile trades in the beginning of the season. It's also important to watch your roster picks so you don't have too many players with the same bye weeks. I try to have a loose long term plan, and I always look 3-4 weeks ahead with my roster moves. Trading a player 1 week before his bye is often a good move.
--------------Also, where does one begin his/her research on these teams? There is an outstanding number of sites/magazines, etc. that can help but I am afraid of information overload. So I'll keep it simple: Where can one get the best information that is actually updated often? I like ESPN and CNNSI but I also am leaning a lot toward a site I had heard earlier about called KFFL. It seems decent enough.
I several sites, KFFL, fantasyfootball.com, rototimes, rotoworld, footballdiehards.com and others. Also, check out the TSN forum. If you ignore all the bull, there can be some useful info there - especially for picking the guys for RV early in the season. But beware - these guys frequently try to slaughter the lambs! ha
-------------Finally, how does one manage to actually fill out a "playable" roster with the prices the way they are? Now, I'm not upset with the prices per se as I feel they can lead to a more diverse range of rosters, but I'm actually concerned where to begin filling my rosters out. Do I start with the Mannings or Tomlinsons of the world or should I draft more sensibly? Do I take a kicker and just leave him all year (barring his bye week...or maybe including his bye week). Are four trades a week enough and where should they be used?
Well, filling the initial roster is the real question all right. I've found that you need a mix of proven achievers and sleepers. It's just not possible to have Manning and LT unless you really stretch at several slots. Better to have players the first week who will get slightly above average points AND who will gain RV in week 2. (There are no price adjustments week 1). I scout to find mid-range guys who have great potential that are not likely to be highly owned week 1. That leads to a large number of buys for week 2 and drives up my RV. I also look at #2 wide receivers for 2 slots. WR is not as reliable for points as RB. I don't usually take sleepers at QB or RB, (but I did pick up Romo for a while last year, and I was reward with his 5 TD game).
I try pick lower-priced TE and Kickers, and I try to use only one trade a season for the kicker and the tight end. Those positions are the least potential for points over the season. Of course, if I have extra trades and RV after the bye weeks, I might tweak those positions, but not before then unless there are injuries. Also, try to pick players who have their bye weeks the week after guys like Gates or Shockey, so you can use one trade AND gain the RV from the big name guys.
Some owners even keep the kicker and tight end thru their bye week and take the zero. I wouldn't do that unless my trades were tapped out.
Defense is the one position I might trade out nearly every week. I watch the matchups, and try to pick a defense that's got a good matchup for 2 or 3 weeks.
And, last but not least, I found the RotoGuru Assimilator last year and it helped me tremendously. It is such a help to see the individual's past weekly points and average. And it's easy to see the upcoming opponents and how many players you have on the same bye weeks. I don't think a lot of people realize it's there or what an incredible tool it is. And I, for one, would not tell them. Many of them are using spreadsheets - which I have done, but the Assimilator is MUCH better!
That's my take on TSN Ultimate FF. There is a lot of strategy involved, and a lot of luck. I hope it makes sense to you. TSN Basic FF, well, that's a whole different strategy. Good luck - and I hope to see you on the forum boards over on TSN.
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| 2 | Bond, James Bond
ID: 16713911
Thu, Aug 09, 2007, 17:37
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Thanks Bluzy....that's exactly the type of opinions I'm looking for.
My main concern with fielding an initial roster is that despite whoever one drafts, you'll have to keep at least 7 of the 11 for week #2. Seems extremely hard on guessing in advance on who'll the RV gainers will be. I guess that's where the luck part comes in. Also, I suspect that one would be better off just concentrate on points and points alone in week one.
Furthemore, I'm mildly surprised that you said that one's RV goal should be in the $68-72M range. Will that be enough? Surely not. I suspect one has to have a minimum of $80M just to get above average players in each position let alone the blue-chip studs. But I could be wrong.
Any further insights would be helpful.
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| 3 | serene
ID: 147431116
Sat, Aug 11, 2007, 18:08
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Take a kicker that is the cheapest and has the latest bye week.
Nothing worse then wasting a trade on a kicker early in the
season.
TE- worry about upgrading after all the bye weeks are over
unless a stud comes off a bye week. Otherwise they don't score
enough to worry about.
D- the best you can afford. DO NOT scrimp here. Play match ups
week by week. Or look for a good 2 week hold.
RB- Obviously where the money is spent. Look for good long
term holds.
WR-Look for sleepers to start with. But try and have at least one
of Payton's targets
QB- Again the best you can afford.
You can generally make enough money through the bye weeks
to be competitive. A trend has become not to be worried when a
player is going on a bye. The masses will buy a player the week
before the bye if he has a big game the week before that. Which
unfortunately is one of the RV making ways...pick up the
previous weeks big TSN producers.
Oh and read the Forum for TSN Football. Saves a lot of research
time. And read the posts here also. There are some very good
players that post at both places.
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| 4 | Bluzy
ID: 361046197
Sun, Aug 12, 2007, 15:45
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Here's a link on the TSN forum to more strategy info.
http://forums.sportingnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=236434&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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| 5 | Bond, James Bond
ID: 37481121
Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 19:34
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Just noticed that TSN did some price modifications on many a player....including adding rookie prices.
For instance, Brodie Croyle's price went from 0.50 to 3.70; Tavarias Jackson went from 2.48 to 4.00, etc...
My point is I can't seem to remember TSN changing the prices in the preseason like this before. Perhaps they always have but I sure don't remember it. Personally, I don't mind the changes but when will it stop? The night before the first game? LOL
I almost feel sorry for those who have already created rosters since now they'll have to go back and tinker with them again.
Does anybody here have a problem with what TSN is doing? If they were going to change prices, why didn't they just wait to reveal ALL prices on August 20th or whatever? Just seems strange/fishy/weird to me.
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| 6 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 09:44
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More than 50 players had their prices raised. Most went up $1500, from $500 to $2000. Croyle went up from $500 to $3700.
Never remember this happening before.
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| 7 | swami
ID: 35433017
Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 20:13
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Who else moved up? Is the Assimilator current?
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| 8 | Rendle
ID: 457402414
Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 10:46
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Haven't looked at things for too long but it seems like there is tons of options at every position except defense. Usually there's 1 or 2 matchups that really stands out but right now I don't see any no brainers.
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| 9 | Vee
ID: 44644109
Thu, Sep 06, 2007, 17:57
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I wonder what happens if you were able to afford the roster before the price change and now it's over the budget?
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