| 0 |
Subject: RIFC 2007: draft discussion
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 15:18
The clock will start on Thursday morning, but I will activate the draft on Wednesday. The clock will be set at 6 hours, with a moratorium from 11pm-7am EDT. If the clock expires, the next person in line will get to draft, and the skipped drafter will make up his skipped pick whenever he can. The clock will continue to run on weekends.
People at the endpoints of the draft have only one single time limit to make their consecutive picks. Similarly, the clock will be manually advanced to skip past anyone who already has a pick in arrears, unless other arrangements have been made in advance of that pick.
We will maintain a draft discussion thread here, but it will probably not be used extensively. If you know that you have pending time constraints, please post them in this thread. (e.g., "I'll be away until 6pm ET, so if my pick is due before then, you'll have to wait.") To the extent that you can alert everyone to potential availability issues, you can help others to plan their check-in times accordingly. That's simply good draft etiquette.
If you know you will be away when your next pick is likely to be due, you can can set up a queue in kafenatid and designate one of more managers to pick on your behalf. Your queue will not be visible until it is your turn to pick. By default, I am able to submit picks for anyone, but you should designate me so that I receive the email alert when it is your turn.
I will clear all rosters at the fanball site shortly, and ask that each of you pick up your player as soon as you draft him. I will also attempt to make pickups for teams using a designated picker, so that we can maintain as complete a list of free agents as possible.
When drafting, there is no need to draft every position. For example, if you want to skip a kicker, be my guest. However, the Fanball software will force you to fill each of the 14 active slots when you set your lineup for each game. You will not have the ability to leave an active slot blank, so plan your bench needs accordingly.
Rationales will be expected for each pick, but deleayed by two rounds. When we near the end of round two, I will set up a thread for those.
Any picks made prior to Thurssday morning are discretionary, and not timed. There is no need to get an early start - but feel free to do so, if you are so inclined. The real purpose of activating the draft early is to allow people to set up designated pickers and queues, and to (re-)familiarize themselves with the "On the Clock" software at kafenatid.net.
A final caveat: Please refrain from mentioning undrafted players, either in this thread, or in your posted rationale.
Another alert: If you have set up a queue and have made it "available", I (or any of your designated pickers) will make the pick on your behalf - unless you have posted specific instructions to the contrary in this thread. If you do not want your queue used, make sure it is marked "unavailable".
|
Only the 50 most recent replies are currently shown. Click on this text to display hidden posts as well.
[Lengthy or complex threads may require a slight delay before updating.] |
| 167 | leggestand
ID: 87382018
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 22:03
|
Great "Rant"ionale Smith.
|
| 170 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 22:24
|
Smith32 wins the Rationale thread - everyone else is just fighting for table scraps.
|
| 172 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 18:56
|
I'm steping out for 3 hours. With six picks before I come up, hopefully it'll be time to pick when I'm back.
|
| 173 | Smith32
Sustainer
ID: 139592519
Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 20:47
|
Glad you guys liked the rant. Unfortunately I do not have quite the same passionate distaste for Gibril Wilson and Brandon Marshall as I do for Eli, so today's rationales will be more subdued.
|
| 175 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 00:27
|
Hey, I finally got a pick on legge's list! About time I got some attention one way or the other, eh?
|
| 176 | holt
ID: 41512278
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 08:53
|
IAC - if Peterson is available for trade then take a look at my roster and tell me the price.
|
| 177 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 09:27
|
Hey Holt
I don't think we could work out a deal right now. IF I were to deal Peterson, I'd probably need another RB included in that deal, one that I'd feel comfortable with as a starter. Jamal is the closest thing you have, and he'd conflict with LT + Foster's bye week.
|
| 179 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 15:03
|
Disappointing to see such a lag in rationales. I now get to post 7 placeholders.
Please try to post in turn. Post a placeholder if you are ready. When the backlog gets so daunting, I end up doing the dirty work.
|
| 183 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 18:13
|
I'll check back in around 10:30 - 11:00pm. I don't expect it to get back to me but youneverknow.
|
| 185 | holt
ID: 41512278
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 20:07
|
very sorry - will try to catch up my rationales tonight. wanted to take the time to write them decently instead of just "i wanted LB he's good and tackles people".
iac - just curious if you'd take larry fitzgerald for peterson.
|
| 186 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 20:36
|
Sorry Holt, but as much as I liked taking Fred Taylor, and DeShaun Foster, I drafted them exclusively as backups, and couldn't see myself relying on either of their muddled RBBCs for steady enough production. Couldn't do Fitz for ADP straight up.
|
| 187 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 00:30
|
"I wanted LB he's good and tackles people."
If you're not going to use that, you won't mind if I use it for my next one, eh?
|
| 189 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 11:12
|
I came in to set a short queue. You are all designated to pick for me; This way, I should not hold up the draft at all. I_A_C has my number and can call me at home if I come up for selection again later tonight.
I know I am behind in my rationales. I'll pick it up tomorrow.
Best,
|
| 190 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 11:56
|
Sounds like you do not want the queue to be automatically used for round 18 then?
|
| 191 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 14:22
|
Hey Guru, I would think not... if we hit the 18th pic today, then I'll call her again for confirmation on what she wants to do. Just waiting for Nerf's pic...
|
| 194 | s R
ID: 861898
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 18:27
|
I have a queue for Rds 17-18, setting Slackjawed Yokel as DP.
|
| 195 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 18:47
|
Guru, Re: 190, yes, you are right. In any event, Legge fixed the problem by picking the no. 2 in my 2 player queue... nice pick!
I_A_C can call me and see what I want to do if it gets beck to me tonight (I came back in to check on something else and could not help but look at the draft and how things are going). I am bringing all of my materials home so I should be able to "telepick" in short order.
Good night to all.
|
| 207 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 12:06
|
I'll be away until this evening. I left a queue which can be used for rounds 19-20. DPs are GL, leggestand, and youngroman.
|
| 208 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 12:08
|
I'll be around all day, just in and out as I work on getting the Motor Home washed and packed.
Cliff
|
| 214 | leggestand
ID: 87382018
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 13:41
|
I am going out for 3 hours or so. I have left a queue, but please use it for Round 19 only. I should be able to make pick 20 when I get back.
|
| 221 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 14:44
|
DRAFT PROBLEM!!!
Nerf picked someone at the wrong position:
When you do a search for Philips at Fanball:
LB Shaun Phillips, sd Free Agent
|
| 222 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 15:16
|
Will be going home soon. If I_A_C monitors the draft tonight and sees that I come up again, he can call and I can pick from there.
Too many picks to leave a queue as I am not sure which hole I want to plug next, depending on what you fine folks are going to do.
|
| 223 | Nerfherders
ID: 64532914
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 18:03
|
Phillips was listed as DL on the list that I have but I'll take him at LB, no problem.
|
| 228 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 21:06
|
[223] Phillips was listed at DL before the draft, but was changed this past week, and prominently announced at the Fanball site before he was drafted here. So, he must be used at LB.
As an aside, Nerf, if you had been picking up your own drafted players at Fanball as we've progressed (as instructed), you'd no doubt have seen the announcement.
|
| 229 | holt
ID: 41512278
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 22:20
|
we should be able to use queues more liberally at this point. I know we're ahead of the pace but I get really frustrated seeing the draft bog down in the same places every round. I mean it's rd 20 - punch some names in your queue and let it ride. there's probably 10 of us checking the draft constantly, and for all we know the draft is done for the night.
|
| 233 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 08:27
|
Dear Holt, re: post 229, if that is a response to my post 222, I am sorry to have offended you. However, I would not call a 1:30 hour delay a "bog down". Trust me, I want to get the draft done as soon as possible as well, but I still want to put some care into who I pick, even though it is the late rounds.
|
| 234 | holt
ID: 41512278
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 09:06
|
it wasn't directed at you greybear.
|
| 235 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 10:41
|
I've got to step out for a little while. You are all still designated as my pickers, so go ahead and select the first guy in the queue. If I make it back before my pick, I'll make the queue unavailable. Shoud I get struck by lightning and not get back before my second pick and players are still in my queue, make sure that you do not pick a player at the same position in the 22nd round as the one selected in the 21st round. As I said, it's highly unlikely that any of this will happen, but I'm being abundantly cautious.
Best,
|
| 237 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 15:19
|
I'll be out from 4-9. I set up a queue, with YR, legge, and GL as DPs.
|
| 238 | beastiemiked
ID: 65112917
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 15:30
|
Sorry for the hold up on the draft and my draft rationales. I was in Chicago/Madison for the Rage concert and visiting friends.
|
| 246 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 17:51
|
Keith Ellison!?!?!? Are you serios Yokels! A guy at the top of my queue cannot go one pick before me this late in the draft!.
|
| 248 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 18:42
|
Hi all,
I may not be on for much longer as I feel the need to get the heck out of my office. I left a small queue and I do hope that at least one of these selections get back to me.
In any event, I will likely be back in the morning in time to make my own selection. Again, I reiterate that should anything happen where I am unavailable for my last two picks, do not pick the same position twice.
Thanks.
|
| 250 | beastiemiked
ID: 65112917
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 19:56
|
Are we allowed to pick players that aren't in the Kafenatid database? If so, how?
|
| 251 | holt
ID: 587112719
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 20:12
|
might be a while before you get an answer.
see post #237
|
| 252 | Smith32
Sustainer
ID: 139592519
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 20:36
|
See #274 in this thread from last year:
2006 RIFC Draft Discussion
For the sake of keeping things moving, I'd say post the name of whoever you want on here, draft Kenny Irons at kafenatid, and then pick up your real guy at Fanball.
|
| 254 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 20:48
|
You can request a player listing at kafenatid.net. However, rather than waiting for that to be completed, draft a player who is unlikely to be viable, post the intended name here, and the draft moves on. Once the target player is made available at kafenatid, I can make the switch.
|
| 255 | beastiemiked
ID: 65112917
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 20:51
|
Ok.
22.08 Jason Snelling, RB, ATL
|
| 259 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 00:07
|
leggestand (246) actually, it was one pick after you , not before you... Yeah I struggled with that pick, and didn't have a great reason to pick Ellison - must've been some psychic capture of your queue...
|
| 261 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 09:28
|
Re: 258, I did not know much about this D'Qwell fellow, and I did consider drafting him just for his name. I for one, am extremely jealous. Well played.
|
| 262 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:34
|
Looks like we'll wrap this up either tiday or tomrrow. Here's what's next:
1. Please fill up your rosters at Fanball. Most of you have done a good job of keeping this current. I've filled in a few teams from time to time as well. It should only take each of you a few moments to check your teams and make sure you have all 24 players.
2. Report any unlisted players. As far as I know, all drafted players are already listed at Fanball. If not, we'll need to find a placeholder and make special arrangements.
3. Once rosters are all set, they will be locked for two days. During that time, you may make claims for any undrafted players. Claim priorities will be in even round order. It appears that Fanball will be able to handle this processing automatically this preseason. (In past years, it had to be done manually).
4. Finish up your rationales. I will also set up a separate thread where you can post a recap of the draft, if you wish.
We've moved along very nicely, averaging slightly under an hour per pick, inclusive of pause time. I especially appreciate those of you who have made use of queues when you knew your availability would be compromised.
|
| 266 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 16:00
|
If you have completed your draft, feel free to post your rationales for rounds 23-24 here. They can then be copied over when the time comes.
|
| 281 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 15:22
|
I'll post this in blue so it stands out amidst the late rationales.
All rosters now have 24 players, and I hope they are the correct 24. Let me know if you notice any error.
I have now locked out teams from being able to pick up free agents. We are now in the post-draft claiming period. At noon (ET) on Saturday, all submitted claims for undrafted players will be processed, using even numbered draft round priorities. If you wish to claim an undrafted player (along with dropping one of your drafted players, of course), you must submit your claim at the Fanball site. You may submit as many claims as you wish. If you do, prioritize them appropriately.
After the claims have been awarded and I have confirmed that everything seems to have run properly, I will enable free agent pickups. During this time, dropped players will be subject to waivers (and waiver claims) for 48 hours.
This is the first year that Fanball has provided for preseason claims, so I hope it runs the way I expect it to.
|
| 282 | BoNkA
Donor
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 18:35
|
After glancing over the teams you guys drafted, I found it interesting that I ended up with the same QBs as IAC (Cutler, Grossman) and the same RBs as Youngroman (Maroney, James). Sadly nobody had the same 3 WRs that I will be starting.
|
| 285 | Smith32
Sustainer
ID: 139592519
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 21:50
|
Beezer - "I don't like Romo or Eli in this format" Under what format would you like those guys? Are there bizzaro leagues where you get points for overthrowing receivers and botching holds on FG attempts?
Guru - I actually have 4 Williamses - Roy, DeAngelo, D.J., and Madieu.
holt - As a Skins fan, I did not scratch my head on the McIntosh pick. I hope he lives up to his hype - the Skins certainly paid enough for him.
|
| 286 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 22:14
|
As Billy Crystal said in When Harry Met Sally, "I WAS TRYING TO BE NICE!"
I'd like them more in leagues that didn't penalize for interceptions. Or Romo in leagues with bonus points for dating American Idol winners.
|
| 289 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 05:23
|
RE Slackjawed YokelL
Embarrassingly, I would double-check the rules. Somehow, it wasn't until the 11th round or so when I realized we had added two IDP starters. Somehow, I remembered the added TE flex, but forgot this. Oh well, at least I realized in time and learned a lesson in the process.... and that lesson was never trust a junkie.
We actually didn't adjust the # of IDPs this year. The previous two years before, they had been upped however.
|
| 290 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 08:01
|
Huh, I guess you're right. I even went back to check my draft last year in AAA... So, I have even less of an excuse to be ill prepared - d'oh!
|
| 291 | Smith32
ID: 487302216
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 08:23
|
Beezer - LOL - I know you were trying to soften the blow. I would like them more (or hate them less) without penalties for INTs too. I am not sure I will retain my sanity through the season when the first 2 roster decisions I have to make each week are who to start between Eli/Romo and Julius/DeAngelo. But such is life in a league with 14 knowledgable managers.
|
| 304 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 17:01
|
Rationales are now complete. Thanks to all! I think this is a record - having all rationales submitted within 24 hours of the completion of the draft.
Remember to submit your post-draft player claims (at the Fanball site) before Saturday noon, if you want to have any priority claims on undrafted players.
|
| 305 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 12:29
|
Post-draft claims have been processed.
Free agents may now be added by any team, first come, first served. Dropped players are still subject to a 48 hour waiver period. Waiver claims can be submitted under the Transactions menu item.
|
| Rate this thread: | If you wish, you may rate this thread on scale of 1-5. Ratings should indicate how valuable or interesting you believe this thread would be to other users of this forum. A '5' means that this thread is a 'must read'. A '1' means that this is a complete waste of time. If you have previously rated this thread, rating it again will delete your previous rating. If you do not want to rate this thread, but want to see how others have rated it, then click the button without entering a rating, or else click here. |
|
|
|
Post a reply to this message: (But first, how about checking out this sponsor?)
|