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0 Subject: RIFC 2007: Draft Rationales #1 (Round 1-6)

Posted by: I_AM_CANADIAN
- Donor [1361448] Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 22:46

This thread will be for managers in the 2007 RotoGuru Invitational Football Challenge to provide the rationale for each pick. (copy/pasted from previous years threads)

Here are the ground rules:
1. Only managers in this league should post here. If you want to provide feedback (either from other league managers, or from those not in the league), put it in the discussion thread. (Non-conforming discussion in this thread will be deleted.)

2. Try to keep the pick rationales in the same order as the draft. We'll attempt to keep this thread 2 rounds behind the actual draft. With the lag, most comments should not have an impact on the draft in progress. However, if there are aspects of your pick that you feel need to be kept under wraps, feel free to protect that information. In particular, please avoid mentioning the names of any players who are still undrafted at that time of the post.

If possible, please post your (2 round lagged) comments at the time you make each pick. For example, you should post your comments for your round 1 pick when you make your round 3 selection. If you are not ready to post at that time, then create a "placeholder" so that the next person is able to go ahead in sequence. When your post is ready, simply post it in the draft discussion thread and a moderator can copy it over.

If your rationale is due and intervening placeholders have not been inserted, please insert them before posting your rationale.

3. Once the draft is over, each manager is also encouraged to provide a general draft recap, at which time you can discuss your overall strategy, mention any undisclosed factors, comment on what worked out well and what didn't, etc.

The general format should be:
1.01 Priest Holmes - RB, KC
Several sentences of rationale.

As part of your first round rationale, please comment on your selection of draft sequence.
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33Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 12:44
for Smith32
3.04 Roy Williams WR DET

I had buyer's remorse on this pick about 3 minutes after I made it. I was so focused on the RB or WR decision that I totally overlooked the fact that Carson Palmer was still on the board. I think Palmer is probably a better value that Williams at this spot.

However, Roy Williams is one of the league's rising stars, playing in a Mike Martz offense on a team that will be trailing a lot. The addition of Calvin Johnson should keep defenses honest, and I think there are plenty of yards to go around so Johnson shouldn't steal too many points from Williams.

I really didn't see anyone at the RB spot that offered much value. I could have taken Deuce, but I didn't think he was much different from who I would be able to get in Rd 4/5 (ultimately DeAngelo and J. Jones), and knowing the run on WRs that was coming, I thought Williams was a tier above what would come back to me (ultimately H. Ward, R. Brown, S. Moss).

34Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 12:44
for Bags
3.05 Carson Palmer, QB, CIN

While Lynch might been seen as a reach by some, Palmer was too good of a value to pass up here. Manning is by far the best QB out there but I feel if some one were to pass him it would be Palmer. This was an easy choice for me.
35GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 14:26
3.06 Anquan Boldin, WR, ARI
Well, if it wasn't for IAC going WR, WR on the turn, I would have gotten a Tier one WR in the 3rd round.
But, that is OK.
I'm actaully happy with Boldin, as I won't be surprised if he doesn't come really close to matching Fitzgeralds production, or posibly surpassing it.

Hoping for 92 receptions, 1300 yards, 5 or 6 TDs
36Nerfherders
      ID: 64532914
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 14:30
for beastiemiked
3.07 Deuce McAllister, NO, RB

When I passed on the RB's in round 2 it was with the intention of picking one up in the round 3. I had my eye on Deuce hoping he'd somehow manage to make it back to me and he did. I guess everyone is scared that Bush will take too many touches and TD's away from Deuce. However, if healthy I don't see any reason why Deuce's numbers will drop off. Would've had a tough decision of Palmer came back to me. Also, considered Ahman Green but I already have a question mark back.

37Nerfherders
      ID: 64532914
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 14:33
3.8 TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR CIN

Another tough choice in round 3. The top 8 or so WR flew off the board so it was up to me to decide who would finish out the top 10. For some reason I really like the Housh this year. He's going to get more TD looks without Henry there, and he just seems to get better and better every season. Driver and Walker would have been great picks here too but I couldnt get past the Housh.
38Greybear
      ID: 447421813
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 14:50
3.09 Javon Walker, WR, DEN

The WR run started a bit earlier than I thought it would. I was going to draft "Houshmazili" while uttering the word "Championship" but he went right before my turn. So I turned my attention to Mr. Walker. I expect strong numbers from Javon this year. He was back from reconstructive knee surgery last year, learning a new offence and going through a few QB's, and still managed 69 receptions and over 1,000 yards. He should be back to full form this season (some scar tissue detached from his knee yesterday, which is a good thing) and will have a better understanding of the offence. He is the undisputed No. 1 receiver there. In sum, this was a relatively easy pick given the fact that some other choices were eliminated for me by then.
39Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 15:50
3.10 Lee Evans, WR, Buf

I wanted to grab my first WR here. Coming into the pick, my short list also included Javon Walker, Houshmanzadeh, Driver, & Boldin. I’d have been satisfied with any of them.
40youngroman
      ID: 3751268
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 16:03
3.11 Donald Driver, WR, GB
after RB-RB the 3rd round is usually WR-time, unless Gates is still available.

the options left were: D Driver, R Moss, D Branch, P Burress and M Colston. all of them can be big but also have their issues (age, injury, wrong team, unproven).

I took Driver because he has a good track record. he may get older (like his QB), but old does not mean bad when I look at his stats of the last few years. with not many other options in Green Bay I see Driver seeing a lot of looks and being a permanent TD-threat. 1200yds with 10TD are not out of reach.

I also thought about the available QB of tier 2 (Brady, Bulger, Brees). until my next pick only 2 managers need a QB so I will get one of them in the 4th round.
41Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 599142218
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 16:43
for leggestand
3.12 Jerious Norwood, ATL, RB

With only one RB in the first two rounds, I felt like I had to go RB here. I started salivating a little as McAllister started dropping, and thought he was an ideal pick, but he was snatched up a couple picks before me. That left me with a couple options: Adrian Peterson, Ahman Green, Marion Barber, and Jerious Norwood. I thought long and hard about Ahman Green, but I just couldn't get over his age and how much he has burned owners in the past. I probably would of taken Peterson had I seen Friday's preseason game before my pick.

I thought taking Norwood would be a reach at 3.12, but he is "the guy" for me this fantasy football year. I am targeting him in all my leagues because I think he is a star in the making and I am willing to overpay for him. With a new coach and the QB "situation," I expect the Falcons to pound the ball 30 times a game. Even if Norwood splits carries, which I don't think he will be doing for the majority of the season, I think he should still get 15+ touches per game. It's also good that his main competition for the job is aging and had offseason back surgery.

Best 3rd Round Value: Deuce McAllister
Biggest 3rd Round Reach: Jerious Norwood

42Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 599142218
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 16:48
3.13 Marques Colsten, WR, NO

Since the team with the two intermediate picks already had two rb, I wanted to get my first receiver here knowing I would still have my pick of available rb's. Was really eyeing Javon Walker but he got snagged several ahead of me. Saw Colston was still available and was pretty highly ranked. I then did my due diligence and checked the latest news on him (see my Nick Johnson pick this year in RIBC AAA...) and he's been performing well this spring. So, pretty happy to get him here if he does anything close to what he did per game last season.
43s R
      ID: 861898
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 23:16
3.14 Tom Brady , QB, NE

I'm very happy with that pick. Always among the elites, this should be a big year for Brady with all of the new acquisitions at WR.

4.01 Andre Johnson, WR, Hou

I need some WR! Last year, Andre set career-highs in catches (103) and yards (1,147) to go with five touchdowns. That's ok.
He has a new QB this year, so hopefully will continue to improve.

44Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 23:28
for Slackjawed Yokel
4.02 Marion Barber, RB, DAL

I needed my second RB here. Thought about Adrian Peterson and Jamal Lewis in addition to Barber. Barber's numbers from last year convinced me to go with him. Each of the guys has their question marks at this point, but Barber's a touchdown fiend. So, both of my running backs (Jones-Drew the other one) are not the primary backs, but stand to get most of the goal-line chances. And, hopefully since they're not getting all the carries, this'll help keep them healthy.

45Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 23:28
for leggestand
4.03 Drew Brees, QB, NOR

Easy pick for me. My QB rankings were (1) Manning, (2) Palmer, (3-5) Brees, Brady, Bulger. Given the drop off in my mind between the 5th QB and the 6th, I knew I had to go QB. I thought the last three were pretty interchangable, and once Brady was taken by s R, I only had to decide between Brees and Bulger.

I really think that if both players stay healthy, Brees and Bulger will be within a couple points of each other by seasons end. They both play on turf, both have explosive offenses, and both have pretty bad defenses allowing for high scoring games. I took Brees simply for the possible injury risk with Bulger.

Best 4th Round Value: Randy Moss
Biggest 4th Round Reach: Jamal Lewis

46Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 23:28
for youngroman
4.04 Marc Bulger, QB, STL

for me Brady, Brees and Bulger are very very close this season. thats the reason why I waited until this pick and took the QB that was left.

Bulger is always good for 4000+ yards and 25 TD. his supporting cast improved in the off-season with a new WR and TE in town who both can catch passes. with an emerging Steven Jackson in the backfield I see the Rams putting up 30+ points every game. they will battle the Colts offense for most points scored and also their defense for most points allowed. this will be the year where the Rams bring back the greatest show on turf.

47Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 23:30
4.05 Donovan McNabb, QB, Phi

A pick with risk and upside. If we get the McNabb that started last season, he could be a top 3 QB. But can he finish a season?

The other QB I seriously considered was Vince Young. He was tempting – but that Tennessee offense is hard to evaluate. When McNabb goes down, I’ll wish I’d taken Young.

The other consideration was the Bears defense. I actually thought they might offer the best value at this pick, but figured they would still be around in round 5.
48Greybear
      ID: 43710116
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 09:37
4.06 Ahman Green, RB, HOU

I struggled with this pick... a lot! I was considering Bulger right around here for the reasons cited by his owner, and strength of schedule. Since he was gone by the time I picked I decided to address the RB situation again. My aim was getting a reliable substitute/backup. I would have preferred Adrian Peterson, but at this time, I was not sure how quickly he would get the starting job; If Friday night's game is an indication, he has it already. I wanted someone who would definately be starting weeks 4 and 5 (bye weeks) and AP could not be that guy (unfortunately). Ahman has had his share of probelms in the past with not completing full seasons, but my needs with respect to him are - hopefully - short term. I expect that he has at least one good season left in him.
49Nerfherders
      ID: 64532914
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 14:44
4.7 Randy Moss, WR NE

wow.. I had McNabb penned down for this spot even before the draft started. And even after Bulger and Brees went early in the round I thought for sure nobody else would take a chance on him in round 4. Alas! So I had to come up with a backup plan quickly, and I took a pick that was risky and a value pick all at the same time. Randy Moss has a QB to throw at him for the first time in 2 seasons, and if he overcomes his hubris and learns to play as a teammate, he will do extremely well.
50Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 15:35
for bmd
4.08 Vince Young, QB, TEN

Young was one of the guys I was targeting at the beginning of the draft. Everybody is so tainted by how bad Vick sucked as a fantasy QB that I think it causes Young to slip in drafts. I'm hoping Young does something that Vick never did, help fantasy managers win their league. Even when Young only throws for 100 yards his rushing yards should help him from putting up a complete stinker. Young was the only guy I considered. If he was gone I would've probably picked another WR but would've hated the pick.
51Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 15:36
for GoatLocker
4.09 Plaxico Burress, WR, NYG

Figured I'd give everybody heart failure by going RB, RB, WR, WR.
Thought for a little bit that Randy Moss was going to make it back to me as that is who I was targeting with this pick.

Not a huge fan of Burress, but was still in my second tier, and hopefully he will get a lot of looks this season.

Hoping for right around 60 receptions and 8-10 TDs.

52Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 15:36
for I_A_C
4.10 Adrian Peterson, RB, MIN

Trying to get this guy almost gave me a heart attack! I'd been watching him slip since early in the 3rd round, and really doubted that he'd make it to me. By the time 4.09 came arround I was actively looking to move up. I knew that Smith32, and Holt both needed a 2nd RB, and that he wouldn't make it back to me. To make things worse... Peterson goes and has a great game (in limited play) for Minny tonight, and I realize that the buzz would only add to his value. If Peterson keeps on performing through preseason, he'll probably be the Vikes #1 RB by week 1. Tallent+Opportunity+A great running O-Line, and a Team that thinks run first = My "Steal of the Draft". IMHO of course.

Best Pick of Round 4: 4.10 Adrian Peterson
Stretch of Round 4: 4.02 Marion Barber III

53Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 15:41
4.11 DeAngelo Williams, RB, CAR

After going RB-WR-WR, I felt I needed to solidify my team at RB before the pool of available RBs really dried up. Williams is somewhat of a speculative pick since he appears to have competition for the starting job, but I think he has enough talent to be serviceable. And if he becomes the feature back (via injury or success) I think he'll outperform this draft position. I didn't really consider anybody else here - I thought he was the obvious choice, given the roster I had at the time.
54The Beezer
      ID: 221092219
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 16:03
for holt
4.12 Jamal Lewis RB, CLE

Pretty disappointed that Adrian Peterson didn't make back around. Really wanted to draft him this year. Just 2 picks too late. I should have tried to trade up, especially after the performance he put on that night (bad timing). I'm an Oklahoma fan so I've been well aware for years of his skills. IAC, when I saw you traded up and took him, I wanted to punch you. You and Bags both.

Oh yeah. Jamal Lewis. He claims his legs are in much better shape this year. Seems like he's been around forever, but he's only 28 yrs old. He's expecting to even get in on the passing game. There's no one else in Cleveland to challenge his playing time. It's pretty much his team, and I've heard the Browns are a little more fiery this year. They'll still lose a lot, but maybe they'll suck less.

I'm very thankful that Lewis was available. He's great value at 4.12, and there was no other RB left that I could have drafted at this spot. Too early to take any committee members.

55The Beezer
      ID: 221092219
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 16:09
4.13 Hines Ward, WR, Pit

Definitely time to grab a WR, although if one of the QBs taken in the 3rd/4th round had fallen, I might have taken one of them instead. I identified Ward a half dozen picks before now as really the only player that I felt comfortable with as a #1 receiver at this point, so I was greatly relieved when he made it to me.

Ward is an unquestioned #1 in Pittsburgh, and I'm hopeful that Tomlin will carry through on his promise to open up the offense a bit. Also, I'm hopeful that the QB will not be as much of a screwball this year as last.

Getting Ward at this slot makes me feel a lot better about grabbing Gates in the third.
56The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 20:26
for Bags
4.14 Reggie Brown, WR, PHI
5.01 Deion Branch, WR, SEA

I could have drafted Peterson here; he was the player at the top of my queue when I offered to trade with I_A_C. Coming up on my pick at 14.10 I had a feeling that Beezer would be taking two WR’s. I had Ward, Brown, and Branch left before my next WR drop-off. I traded to move between Beezer to guarantee two of the three WR that I wanted.

I like both Brown and Branch because of their solid QB situation and that both of them will be the #1 WR on their team. Both have the potential to score 10 TD with about 1200 yards receiving.

57The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 20:38
5.02 Santana Moss, WR, WSH

Nothing compelling has changed at QB or RB that made me want to pull the trigger, as I expect my next RB pick would slide a bit more. That meant my next WR on my board was the pick here.

Expectations last season in many quarters were that the 700-page playbook Al Saunders was bringing to D.C. would hamper the offense for a year before they would really get used to it. That's exactly what happened, but for some reason many seem to have forgotten all about that when it comes to evaluating the Washington passing offense. With the QB situation settled for now and a year's experience in the new offense, I expect Moss to return to the form he showed in 2005 and be a great WR2 for my team.
58Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 21:02
for holt
5.03 Calvin Johnson, WR, DET

Went for my 3rd WR here. Coles, Edwards, and D.Jackson were available, along with a few other 2nd tier guys, but I like the upside of Calvin Johnson. He's a phenomenal athlete with a great work ethic in the most pass happy offense in the NFL. I think 1000 yards and 8 td's are a very safe bet, while numbers like 1400 yds/14 td's are within the realm of possibility. So yeah, I drafted Johnson as an upside pick.

from wiki:
Johnson has a rare combination of size (6 ft. 5 in., 239 lb), speed (4.35 sec 40-yard dash), strength, leaping ability (more than 45" (114 cm) vertical),[1][2] body control and hand-eye coordination. It is often mentioned that he is also a very humble and well-behaved person, exemplified by his building trip (see below), and his refraining from showing off or getting into confrontations on the field.

Johnson ultimately allowed the 4.35 to speak for itself and wowed scouts with his jump drill results, his receiving skills, and his 11 ft 7 in (3.53 m) broad jump, which is "best broad jump I can ever remember an NFL prospect having," according to Gil Brandt.


The contract that Johnson signed made him the highest paid player in Lions history. It also made him the highest paid (in guaranteed money) receiver in the NFL. So yeah, he's goin to play and be a major part of the Lion offense right away. It's hard to describe how relieved I was when he was still available.
59Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 21:03
5.04 Julius Jones, RB, DAL

My queue was JJ, Baltimore, Chicago. I probably should have taken one of those defenses, but I thought the RBs really went downhill after JJ. I think Jones will get plenty of touches in a decent offense, and even if Barber takes the goal line carries, I think Jones can put up enough points to have fantasy value.

Here's what Rotoworld posted on Jones's page from the Dallas Morning News:

"Julius Jones has been getting more carries inside the red zone and catching more passes on third downs during Cowboys training camp."

"Those duties were Marion Barber's under Bill Parcells. While no one is likely to dominate carries in Dallas' backfield, Jones should wind up with more touches than Barber. If Jones starts swiping some third-down/goal-line duties, he's seriously undervalued in fantasy leagues."

I hope they're right.
60I_AM_CANADIAN
      Donor
      ID: 1361448
      Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 21:33
5.05 Baltimore Ravens, DEF, BAL
Ravens Defense finnished last year as the 4th highest ranking "player" in our league (ahead of Peyton Manning). It avg'd 19.5ppg. From what I could see in Pre-season… they look like there still going to be among the best this year. I only had "da Bears", ranked within there tier as well, but felt that they had lost of a lot more pieces to the puzzle in this off-season. That said, GreyBear I think also realized just how important TeamD was last year, and went and grabed Chicago before anyone else could.

Best Pick of Round 5: 5.05/5.09 Baltimore/Chicago DST
Stretch of Round 5: 5.07 Mark Clayton
61beastiemiked
      ID: 65112917
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 02:48
for GoatLocker
5.06 Laveranues Coles, WR, NYJ

Wow, the earth just stopped spinning and started going backwards.
I just hope my changing up this much doesn't kill me.
RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, who kidnapped GoatLocker.
Really liked this pick at this point in time.
Had been looking at taking a QB in the 4th or 5th, but when the front end all stayed away from QBs, I felt like I could wait til round 6 and still get my pick of several QBs I wanted. So, the best WR I saw at the time was Coles. Think he still has a real good shot at having another real good season.
62beastiemiked
      ID: 65112917
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 02:54
5.07 Mark Clayton, WR, Bal

I've had Clayton on just about every fantasy team I've had since he was a rookie. He's got the potential to be a stud #1 WR but he's stuck in a lackluster offense. He's entering his magical 3rd season which is when it seems all WR's bustout. I thought about the Bears D here but decided I really needed to get a 2nd WR.
63Greybear
      ID: 43710116
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 08:46
for Nerfherders
5.08 Matt Hasselbeck, QB, SEA

This might have been from not getting my man in the 4th round but I really didnt want to wait on QB any longer. Hasselbeck suffered greatly from his receivers last year and hopefully they get a more solid catching group to support him. He's a solid QB - He could probably produce as high as top 4 but I would be happy with top 10.
64Greybear
      ID: 43710116
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 08:54
5.09 Chicago Bears, DEF, CHI

Two out of the top ten fantasy players last year were defences. I_A_C liked the Ravens (thank goodness), and it just so turns out that I prefer da Bears. I feel that the Raven's D centres around a certain player a lot, and that he is not getting any younger. As you get older, usually, your skills erode.

Frankly, I was hoping to start a bit of a defensive run going so that certain players such as Darrel Jackson or Braylon Edwards would still be available to me on the way back up in 6th round: Wishfull thinking. However, I saw myself having to choose between good but average players at WR while I could go out and get myself a stud D. I chose the D.
65Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 09:48
5.10 DeMeco Ryans, LB, Hou

I had hoped to get the Bears defense here, and was bummed when they were snapped up one pick ahead of me. Of course, that happens a few times in every draft. But it always hurts. In retrospect, I probably should have nabbed them in round 4, and then settled for a QB here.

No other defenses make sense here (with Baltimore also gone), so I went through a deeper look at each position. I don’t like any of the remaining RBs as my 3rd RB in round 5. At WR, there are a lot of comparable receivers, and I think I can get decent relative value later on. Still too early for a TE, with only Gates off the board.

That leaves IDP. It may be a tad early, but with 6 slots, we have to start sometime soon. Last year, Ryans ranked 2nd in total points for linebackers, with a gaudy 126 solo tackles – as a rookie. There may be a few other LBs who will put up comparable total points, and maybe Ryans shouldn’t even be the first LB taken, but what if he gets even better in his sophomore year?

Maybe he would have slipped another round or two, but I already played that risk with the Bears and got burned. Fool me once, shame on you…
66youngroman
      ID: 3751268
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 13:49
5.11 Braylon Edwards, WR, CLE
as my pick came due I hoped that the Chicago Defense would fall. it didn't. I have my starters at QB and RB filled and the talent at TE or IDP isn't worth a 5th round pick.
so it was time for a 2nd receiver. my list came down to (in that order): Coles, Clayton, Edwards, Galloway, Jackson, Glenn, Holmes, Chambers, [undrafted]. the first 2 were gone so Edwards was my choice. he has the same bye as my #1 receiver but who cares. I have a few weeks time until week 7 to take care of that problem.

Edwards is on his way to 1100 yards and 7 TD this year. the only problem I see is the QB situation in Cleveland, but I don't think that this should affect Edwards performance too much.
67leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 14:15
5.12 Tatum Bell, RB, DET

I am still sitting pretty light at RB with Norwood and McGahee, so, I need to get a third. Right now, Bell is likely the starter in Detroit, and the previous starter has an injury that usually takes 12 months to heal (injury happened in December of last year). Going into week 1, Bell will probably be my RB2 over Norwood and has a chance to stay as my RB2 if he can finally reach the "expectations" people have been talking about since he was drafted by Denver. In the Detroit offense, the RB is a big piece of the system, so, assuming [undrafted] doesn't come back for a while, I expect good things from Bell.

Best 5th Round Value: Julius Jones at 5.04
Biggest 5th Round Steal: Vincent Jackson at 5.14
68Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 599142218
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 14:46
5.13 Darrell Jackson, WR, SF

I was definitely targeting another offensive skill position here. Unfortunately, no one out there really stood out for me. None of the RB seemed a sure bet, and I already have two. With only one WR at this point, I looked through who was out there. I looked seriously at Jackson and Joey Galloway; because of the uncertainty in the QB situation in TB, I opted for Jackson. He should be the main guy in SF, and if he stays reasonably healthy should have another 1000 yard season. Picking very near the end, I also recognized it might be time to get one of the top TE's, but figured I'd get one in three picks.
69s R
      ID: 861898
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 15:05
After using my 3rd pick for Brady I felt I needed to go for some relievers:
5.14 Vincent Jackson, WR, SD
Vincent is entering his third season in the NFL, which is typically the breakout year for WRs. The Chargers are counting on Jackson to be their No. 1 WR. (I count on him No. 3 after LT and Gates.)

6.01 Joey Galloway, WR, TB
He is pretty much the Bucs' only reliable receiver. His solid conrtibutions over the last two seasons combined with the upgrades the Bucs made at QB and O-line, Galloway should be good enough for another year.

70Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 15:57
for Yokel
6.02 Tony Gonzalez, TE, KAN

Last year in AAA, I drafted Shockey early in the fifth round, and having a stud TE in a 14 team league was huge. As I saw it, the second tier of TE consists of Gonzalez, Shockey, and Heap. Gonzalez is essentially the main target in KC - he gets 900 yards year-in year-out. I left a one-man queue of TG - had he been picked I probably would have taken Shockey again. After the fact it was good to see a TE run of sorts happen.

71Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 15:58
for leggestand
6.03 Chris Chambers, WR, MIA

Wow, Chris Chambers really stunk last year. I have to imagine his numbers will be better this year with a more consitant QB, but he does still have a case of the dropsies. I just got to believe that a guy with the raw skills of Chambers will have a solid year like 2005 and will get over last season's debacle.

It sounds like he should be able to beat the DUI charge against him, but that does give me a little concern with Goodell at the helm.

Best Value in 6th Round: Tony Gonzalez at 6.02
Biggest Stretch in 6th Round: Pretty solid round overall, but if I had to choose I would say Fred Taylor at 6.14

72Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 15:59
for youngroman
6.04 Todd Heap, TE, BAL
as this pick came due there were only a few positions to go
a) 3rd RB - I want no bench player in the 6th.
b) 3rd WR - there are a few options still out there
c) Defense - Ravens and Bears are gone. after this 2 there is a dropoff. no need to get one now
d) IDP - I thought about it but with only Guru getting one until this pick and a huge depth I have no need to pick one early. I don't think that an IDP is worth a 6th or even a 7th round pick this year. I guess more managers will draft one until my next pick is up but that is their problem, not mine.
e) TE - I saw a few options too

that leaves me with either WR (Galloway, Chambers, Holmes) or TE (Heap, Shockey, Gonzalez). both in that order. I see all of them score 7-8 points per game. Galloway was my first choice because he is the best player, then Heap and Shockey simply because they are tightends. it turned out to be Heap.

Heap is a master of consistency, so he should get me around 800 yards and 6TD, like he did on average in the last 5 years.

73Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 16:00
6.05 Jeremy Shockey, TE, NYG

Second time in a row that my target was snapped up one pick ahead on me!

I had preferred Heap, but Shockey should put up similar numbers. I had him last year, and after a slow start, he was a decent contributor most weeks, in spite of frequent appearances on the injury report.

I could have gone with a 2nd WR here, but Shockey should put up points almost as good as those expected from the top WRs on the board, so it would seem to make sense to go with the more difficult position now. I don’t think I’m getting great value with this pick, but I am getting fair value.

I’m already feeling like this draft has gotten the better of me. If I had decided before pick #5 that I would be taking a TE in round 6, I probably would have taken my preferred TE (either Gonzo or Heap) in round 5 rather than waiting, as I suspect Ryans would have still been around now. I’m also second guessing my decision to wait until #5 for the Bears instead of grabbing them in round 4. Unfortunately, I’ve been left in a reactive mode, rather than a proactive mode. Hopefully that will change soon.

In any event, I feel like I have a reasonable foundation from which to build. Last year I survived what turned out to be a pretty dismal opening few picks – so I’m still upbeat about this year.

74Greybear
      ID: 43710116
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 17:02
6.06 Keith Bulluck, LB, TEN

All of the WR that I had targeted for this round went a few picks ahead of me. So I thought I was better off going with a stud LB than an average WR or above average - yet not tier 1 - TE. With respect to projected points, Bulluck should get me more points than anyone else I could have picked at the TE and WR position. I felt that I could hold off on WR and get better value in my next round (which, in my humble opinion, turns out to be true with Berrian at 7.09). I felt that it was time to pick a LB as one already went off the board in the previous round and I thought a run might start. Personally, I like Bulluck better than Ryans so why not go get the guy I like. I also wanted to generate somewhat of a run on them so some of my other much needed positions would be left alone. It kind of worked.
75Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 17:30
6.7 Alge Crumpler, TE ATL

The TE run started earlier than I thought - it seems all the runs have gone within 4-6 picks of my upcoming pick. I wish I could start a run instead of finishing one. Anyways, I went with Crumpler here because after the 2-5 TE's, there is a huge dropoff in production. Crumpler is good but not spectacular, and I'll be banking on some more endzone looks to make up the difference.
76Bags
      ID: 2500120
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 20:22
for beastiemiked

6.08 Chris Cooley, TE, WAS

Really happy to get Cooley here. I really don't see any drop off between him and the other TE's taken just before I picked. This was another spot where if Cooley didn't fall to me I'd be left clueless on who to pick.

77Bags
      ID: 2500120
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 20:23
for GoatLocker

6.09 Jon Kitna, QB, DET

Well, was time to get a QB, as I really didn't feel comfortable about trying to wait until the 7th round.

There were two QBs I was looking at with this pick. Kitna and Romo. I sure hope I went the right way.
Just not sure Romo is for real yet.
Really think Kitna has a shot at scoring in the top 2 or 3 for QBs, so felt real good about getting him in the 6th round.

78Bags
      ID: 2500120
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 20:27
6.10 London Fletcher-Baker, LB, WAS

He is right there with Bullack and Ryans as the best. Changing teams and schemes will not hurt him; the man simply tackles the guy with the ball.

I was planning on taking a TE, but the run on TE emptied the well. I decided to get in on the beginning of a run instead of the end.
79Smith32
      Sustainer
      ID: 139592519
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 20:41
6.11 Tony Romo, QB, DAL

Romo was the last remaining member of a tier of QBs on my cheatsheet containing Kitna, Young, and Hasselbeck, and I knew that everyone drafting behind me still needed a QB. So I took a chance on Romo. He certainly has a good supporting cast around him, so hopefully he can build upon the success he had last year (sans the N.O. game and the botched hold in the playoffs). If TO can hold onto the ball, that will help too. I don't think he's a bad value as the 9th QB taken, but hopefully Vernon Davis doesn't make me regret this pick.
80The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 21:34
for holt
6.12 Philip Rivers QB SDG

Already had 2 rb and 3 wr. Set my queue for Kitna, Rivers, Romo. I really wanted Kitna, Rivers I'm ok with, glad I didn't get Romo.

Not a lot to say about Rivers. Had a solid year in his first time around as a starter. 61.7%, 3388 yds, 22 TD, 9 INT. Good offensive team. I'll be happy if he reproduces those numbers.

81The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 21:40
6.13 Donte' Stallworth, WR, NE

I tend to favor a shotgun approach to the wide receiver position, as I have never been very good at predicting who will do well at the position. It's not terribly difficult even in this league to find serviceable WR3s on the waiver wire that can score 5 points a week and fog a mirror, so I tend to swing for the fences at this point of the draft.

Stallworth is moving on to his third team in four seasons, yet he's been fairly consistent the last 3 years, averaging about 9 FPs/game. I think he's in a great situation this season and feel there is a good chance that he and Moss turn our to be more equitable than most think by the middle of the season. Or not - as I said, shotgun approach.
82I_AM_CANADIAN
      Donor
      ID: 1361448
      Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 21:43
6.14 Fred Taylor, RB, JAX
RBs being important as they are, I decided to back them up at least once before I continue on filling out my starters. I'm far from being sold on "Fragile Fred", but as long as he's the #1, he'll get plenty of touches and yards for the Jags. Apparently he's seen a little goal line work recently too, which is a nice surprise. I doubt he'll be sole option in the red zone, but even a piece of the pie could be good for the team that runs the ball so much.

Best Pick of Round 6: 6.09 Jon Kitna
Stretch of Round 6: 6.07 Alge Crumpler
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