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0 Subject: RIFC 2007: Draft Rationales #4 (Round 19-24)

Posted by: I_AM_CANADIAN
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33Bags
      ID: 2500120
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 08:42
for Smith32
21.04 Kevin Faulk, RB, NWE

Pretty much just a complete flier. I am really rolling the dice at RB in this league - if Jones and Williams get hurt or end up with the lesser RB role in their "RBBT" (RB by tandem) systems, I'm pretty much out of luck. Faulk had over 600 return yards last year, and if something happens to Maroney, maybe Faulk will have some value.

34Bags
      ID: 2500120
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 08:42
21.05 Neil Rackers, K, ARI

I’m not sure why I decided to take Rackers. I had plenty of options to take for a kicker, just a hunch I guess.
35GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 09:09
21.06 Lorenzo Booker, RB, MIA
That time of the draft.
Another RB, but no clue how much playing time he will get.
Just never seemed to perform to the level expected in college.
Was a lot of fun to watch run in High School though, so let's see if he can't turn it around and maybe be a surprise.
Strictly a Bye week play if required.
36Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 10:57
for bmd
21.07 Thomas Davis, LB, Car

I needed a LB and he was the best available. Really don't know much about him since I didn't have much time to research. Hoping for a HUGE season ;)

37Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:00
21.08 Trent Cole, DL PHI

I needed a DL to fill in for the first 2 weeks of the season. I had Cole as my last pick last year and he outperformed (Undrafted) who at the time was a top 3 DL. Cole is very active in the PHI defense and he will score pretty well.
38Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:22
for Greybear
21.09 Bernard Pollard, DB, KAN

At this point in the draft I decided I should take a look and see where I wanted back-ups or alternates. I decided DB, LB, and DEF would be it. I had my heart set on Laron Landry but he was taken before I could get to him. So I opted for yet another young guy (a 2006 2nd round draft pick). His sacks were in the double digits last year, and I expect that this year will be a progressive year; at this age, players are typically peaking instread of on the decline.

39Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:23
21.10 Arnaz Battle, WR, SF

Looks like he might be starting for the 49ers. That doesn’t necessary mean he has any value, as he’ll still probably be the 4th receiving option behind Gore, Darrell Jackson, and Vernon Davis, But as a 5th WR in round 21, that makes him the best option I’ve noted as I poke around the list of available talent.
40youngroman
      ID: 2934823
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:39
21.11 Dan Morgan, LB, CAR

I waited long for my 6th starting IDP because after the good ones are gone the rest is interchangable and only the regular season will show us if they play as much as we think they are.

Dan Morgan is such a kind of guy. missing nearly all of 2006 he is eased back into the game. he is listed as starter in the middle which usually translates to the most tackles (=points) for IDPs. if he can stay healthy all year (am I that crazy to think of that?) this could be a steal. this is what we are trying to get with these late round picks.

41leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:41
21.12 Dwayne Bowe, WR, KC

Just taking a flyer here on what could become KC's #1 WR. He is my 6th WR pick, but it seemed like a good place to take a guy with a lot of upside. We shall see how long he remains on my roster.
42Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 599142218
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:48
21.13 Keith Ellison, LB, Buf

I guess I had gotten slacked off on my tracking of defensive picks as well. Ellison was the third name I typed into Kafenatid to be my pick. Problem was the first two had already been drafted. Just looking for a young LB here who can serve as a backup/bye-fill-in with some upside.
43s R
      ID: 861898
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 13:01
21.14 Zach Miller, TE, Oak
Backup tight end... Miller has all but locked up a starting job.

22.01 Nate Kaeding, K, SD
One of the most reliable kickers, in an explosive offense.


44Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 599142218
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 14:06
22.02 Shayne Graham, K, Cin

Well, I'd been planning to get my kicker here,and planning, actually to get Nate Kaeding. I probably should have taken him before sR picked, but didn't. I suppose it was because there is not much a dropoff for kickers and I didn't want to get one too early (stupid, I know considering I waited three picks later). But, the thought was to get one before a potential run started and I was left without a kicker from a high-powered offense.

postcript: Of course, after the fact, in last night's MNF game, who would get hurt? of course, the idiot kicker (no, not Mike Vanderjadt, but Shayne Graham). Apparently Graham has a hip pointer which may throw his status in question. This caused me to burn a pick on another kicker in the final round.
45leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 14:33
22.03 Olindo Mare, K, NO

I wanted Keith Ellison, but Yokels picked him before I was up here. So, instead of wasting time and trying to find some sort of diamond in the rough that I'd probably drop anyhow before they became a diamond, I just used this pick on a kicker. Mare, a usually accurate kicker moves to the Saints' dome and high powered offense. If there was such a thing, I would call him the sleeper kicker of 2007. I look for him to be up there with Wilkins and Vinitiari due to their identical situations (high powered offenses and home dome).
46Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 14:49
for youngroman
22.04 Saints defense

we all need a 2nd defense, right? If I remember correctly I needed a defense from waivers last year and there were only scrubs left. even a scrub-defense with a favorable matchup does not put up the points in our scoring format.

I expect New Orleans to be not one of the scrubs. they don't allow that many yards than other defenses and are average in sacks and turnovers. as long as the Saints offense is on the field the defense can not lose any points. that will help too.

Go Saints!

47Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 14:50
22.05 Garrett Wolfe, RB, Chi

Benson has not been impressive this preseason, and while I don’t think his starting role is in jeopardy – yet – I figured I’d get the belt-and-suspenders handcuff. (I already have Adrian Peterson as Benson's presumed backup.) Now I have Wolfe as well. I’ll stow him on the bench for a few weeks and see what transpires.

48Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 15:58
for Greybear
22.06 Bobby Carpenter, LB, DAL

This is yet another situation where I may have waited a tad too long to pick up my target. I had thought of getting Dan Morgan and seeing how long he can last this year. Regrettably, he went to yougroman; congrats to you. I picked up Carpenter as a reliever for my bye weeks, so I don't really plan on playing him much. He is yet another talented player (1st round pick in '06), whose career should be on the rise.

49Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 16:02
22.07 Sean Considine, DB PHI

Considine is more of a homer pick but I really think he will put up good fantasy numbers. He took (Undrafted)'s job in the middle of the season last year - a player who had a pretty good track record himself. In his last 6 games last year he averaged 8.5 points per game. He should be a high-tackling safety so the numbers should be fairly consistent. I wouldnt mind starting him on more than just bye week fillers.
50The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 21:53
for bmd
22.08 Jason Snelling, RB, Atl

The guy that wasn't even in the database. A sure fire sign that he's everybody's sleeper pick. A lot has been made of Norwood breaking out this year and Dunn breaking down. Not sure where Snelling fits into the equation but has shown so good signs this preseason. Also, I love 3rd string RB's.

51The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 21:54
for GoatLocker
22.09 Jimmy Williams, DB, ATL
More of a gut choice pick than anything else.
And if it too much of a stretch, then I'll drop him and find another warm body.
This is a case of a cornerback being switched to Free Safety.
I expect his playing time to increase every week.
Strictly a back up and we shall see.
52The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 21:54
for IAC
22.10 St. Louis Rams, DEF, STL

One of the only decent teams left to be a spot starter/bye week filler.

53The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 21:54
for Smith32
22.11 Madieu Williams, DB, CIN

When the draft got to this point, I looked at my list and said "I can't believe *still undrafted* is still undrafted!", and then noticed Madieu 3 spots above that guy. He is a nice backup to Gibril (and also evidence of how stupid my Gibril pick was, since Madieu is very similar and still available 10 rounds later) and can serve as a viable IDP flex during bye weeks if I need him. I expect 70 solo, 20 assists, 10 PD, and a few INT to get him into triple digits. Like most of my IDP-fliers, he's young (25) so there may be some upside. And you can never have too many Williamses on your team, at least I hope not.

54The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 21:54
for holt
22.12 Michael Robinson RB SFO

Simple handcuff move for Gore. Robinson is a decent athlete and would be valuable to me if Gore misses a start.

55The Beezer
      Dude
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 21:56
22.13 Stephen Gostkowski, PK, NE

Despite my diatribe above about kickers and defenses, anytime your #1 guy is still on the board at this point of the draft, you've got to take him. The Patriot offense looks strong this year, and at a minimum he should get a lot of extra points (preferably off of Stallworth touchdowns).

Since IAC needed a kicker, I wanted to make sure I'd get the guy I wanted as I didn't expect my next pick to get taken by IAC or my last rounder to get taken by anyone.
56I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 11:04
22.14 Matt Stover, PK, BAL
Seven kickers are already off the board, and along with DL is the only starting slot I have left to fill. Stover's one of those elite kickers who rarely disappoints. Baltimore's general conservative style leads to lots of FG attempts. Stover is pretty much a shoe-in to finnish in the top-10 kickers.

23.01 Kyle Vanden Bosch, DL, TEN
He's actually not the top DL on my queue sheet, but his bye week worked out better for my teams regular season strategy. I'll be in need, of 1 spot that I can use to rotate replacements for DL in week 4, TE in week 6, and K in week 8. Other than that, I should be adequately backed up for byes at least.
57The Beezer
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 11:05
23.02 Demetrius Williams, WR, BAL

Last year, I took Doug Gabriel in round 23 and he turned out to actually be rather useful as he was a component of a trade later that helped some other positions. History may have repeated itself, as Williams has the high risk/reward dynamic that I like at this point in the draft.

58Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:41
for holt
23.03 Robbie Gould K CHI

I had Robbie last year. Didn't even draft him. Grabbed from the wire before week 1. He did a great job for me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
59Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:41
for Smith32
23.04 Maurice Stovall, WR, TB

Stovall is as much of a late-round flier as you'll ever see. Lot of hype, bad pre-season, lousy team, but yet seems to have a lot of potential and could wind up with a starting job. I feel like I'll know pretty quickly whether he is worth a spot on my roster, which is what I like to look for in the last few rounds. Nothing like being stuck with a team full of big name mediocrity that you can't bring yourself to part with.

60Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:42
for Bags
23.05 Dunta Robinson, DB, HOU

I needed a Dunta to go with my D’Qwell.

I actually like his tackle numbers, if he could increase his INT’s he could be a top fantasy DB. Most likely he will be just a bye week starter.


61Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:43
for GoatLocker
23.06 Jason Elam, K, DEN

Needed a kicker to fill out the roster. Most are very close point wise.
Hard to really break out who will do what each season.
He is serviceable and should do just fine.
Wouldn't hurt me at all if we dropped kickers from the roster ;)

62Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:43
for bmd
23.07 Tampa Bay Bucs, DEF

I remember back in the day when the Bucs were perennial top 5 defense. A lot has changed. I really don't plan on starting them but if the Chargers defense falls apart I guess they would be nice to have rather than some FA defense.
63Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:44
for Nerfherders
23.08 Teddy Bruschi, LB NE

We all know about Teddy Bruschi. He recorded over 100 tackles in the first full season after his stroke. He still plays at a high level so he'll be a decent fill-in.
64Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:45
for Greybear
23.09 David Akers, K, PHI

What can I say. We all need a kicker, and their scoring depends majoritarily on the team's performance. So I was trying to guesstimate - of the teams left - who will be able to move the ball up and down the field and go impotent near the end zone. If I were to know these things, well, I'd be living in Vegas right now. But since I don't have a crystal ball, I just went for a guy that usually does not disappoint and posts solid numbers. The only thing that I don't like is that he plays outside. However, I couldn't find anyone I liked that was "domed".

65Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:46
23.10 Josh Brown, K, Sea

I want a kicker who should be stable, has a history of decent production, and has a bye that’s on the later end. Brown satisfies all three criteria. There were a few kickers left with byes in week 9 & 10, but I thought Brown would be a better producer, and round 8 is late enough.

66Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:47
for youngroman
23.11 Keary Colbert, WR, CAR
Colbert is slated to be the starting wide receiver for the Panthers. at least for week 1. he may be the first one to see the waiver wire as I will need a kicker for week 1 after not drafting one.

not very excited about him. lets see how he progresses. from todays point of view any non-injured starting kicker is more valuable than him.
67Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:48
for leggestand
23.12 Morlon Greenwood, LB, HOU

I figured I should get at least one IDP for my bench and am fine with Greenwood. He was solid last year and he will be playing WLB for Houston. I expect Houston's defense to be on the field a lot once again, and if extra attention is put towards DeMeco Ryans this year, that should open more opportunities for Greenwood
68Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:48
for Slackjawed Yokel
23.13 Najeh Davenport, RB, Pit

Yikes, the draft isn't even over and I'm fighting the injury bug. With Michael Turner having a high ankle strain, and the dearth of running backs to start with, I grabbed Davenport as some additional insurance. He's slotted as the backup running back in Pittsburgh.
69Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:49
for s R
The last pieces of my IDP-puzzle:
23.14 Ty Warren, DL, NE
He's a guy who picks up the run while excelling at getting to the QB. His 2006 breakout is a sign of more great things to come.

24.01 Brandon Moore, LB, SF
He not only brings solid tackling to the field, is an explosive pass-rusher who should lead a much-improved SF defense.
70Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:50
for Slackjawed Yokel
24.02 Josh Scobee, K, Jax

Case in point why you should wait to draft kickers. My 22nd round pick of Shayne Graham got hurt in last night's game. With the potential he would miss game one, I grabbed Scobee here. Depending on Graham's health, I may drop Scobee. This way I didn't tip my hand on the hidden gem I was going to draft. Yeah... that's it..
71Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:50
for leggestand
24.03 Sammy Morris, RB, NE

I wanted to take one more RB, and knowing that this would be the first guy I dropped after week 1, I tried to take a guy that I thought had the biggest chance to be the starter in Week 2 (thus making me not able to drop him). I don't think he will take Maroney's spot, so, my only rationale was based on injury risk. If Maroney goes down, Morris will fill in nicely for New England as he has all preseason. If Maroney doesn't go down, then Morris will likely be dropped. It just seemed pointless to me to pick up someone I might like in Week 6-7 as my last pick, because I knew I wouldn't hold onto him that long.
72Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:51
for youngroman
24.04 David Martin, TE, MIA
I don't like the Dolphins, but he is the 5th player I picked from them. am I crazy? I don't think so because that means that I followed one rule for drafting: don't go crazy about players/teams you like.

David Martin is the unquestioned #1 TE in Miami and the 4th option behind Brown, Chambers and Booker. a few years back the new Dolphins coach created a star in Antonio Gates. Martin is not that great of an athlete, but still good enough to fill in as a backup TE and possibly as a backup WR because of our new WR/TE slot.
73Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:52
24.05 James Jones, WR, GB

I had two fliers on my short list for this pick. Sammy Morris disappeared two picks ago, leaving Jones. (I’d probably have taken Jones anyway.)

Jones has done well this month, and has moved up to the 3rd WR at Green Bay, behind Driver and Jennings. He first caught my attention when Driver got hurt, and even though it appears that Driver’s injury will not impact the regular season, Jones should get some action this year, as Favre likes to throw it around and Green Bay may find itself in a lot of games where it has to.
74Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:52
for Greybear
24.06 Cincinnati Bengals defense

The Bengals were ranked higher than I expected on some of the projections I studied. With Chicago as my pick in round 5, I was in no hurry to pick up another D. So I picked who I thought was the best available in the last round. I expect to play them once.

75Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:53
for Nerfherders
24.07 Rob Meachem, WR NO

Grasping at straws here really. I wanted another WR and thought about getting someone useful right away, but this more of a pure upside pick. He will probably have the 3rd WR spot on a loaded NO offense, and if there is an injury he will get a decent amount of playing time. I can afford to stash him on the bench and wait to see what happens.
76Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:53
for bmd
24.08 John Kasey, K, Car

I needed a kicker. Thought about head case Gramatica but decided to go with good ole John Kasey.
77Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:54
for GoatLocker
24.09 Tamba Hali, DL, KAN
2nd season in the NFL.
Lots of people seem to think that is when a player makes his biggest improvement.
Last year he had 8 sacks, 1 FR, 1 INT, 62 tackles in 16 games.
Really expect him to add to those numbers a lot.
Could be a big surprise.
Especially in the last round.
78Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:55
for Bags
24.10 Mathias Kiwanuka, DL, NYG

Kiwanuka will play SLB for the NYG. I think that it could mean big points for a DE.
79Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 10:01
for Smith32
24.11 DeDe Dorsey, RB, IND

My attempt at handcuffing Joseph Addai. Not much else to say.
80Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 10:02
for holt
24.12 Mario Williams DL HOU

I may go through a half dozen DL this year. I don't have much respect for the position fantasy-wise. In the past I've swicthed different guys in and out all season, just looking to spot-start good matchups.

This guy has a lot to prove. He is the reason why Reggie Bush isn't playing in Houston. If he doesn't crank it up several notches he could be chased out of town by the general public like Frankenstein's Monster or something. This is something I found appealing.
81Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 10:02
for Beezer
24.13 Marcedes Lewis, TE, JAX

I've really got 7 more weeks to find someone to fill Gates' bye week, but I like Lewis a lot last year and thought I'd get him into a lineup. He'll last longer than Sam Hurd did last year, but probably not by much.
82Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 10:03
for IAC
24.14 John Abraham, DL, ATL
High risk/Medium reward pick. He's kinda like the Dan Morgan of DLs. IF he's healthy, you can count on him to put up impressive #s. In the last 5 years, only twice has he played in 15+ games. When he did, he finnished top 10 in DL scoring. I just need him to stay healthy for a few weeks, and then he'll become waiver wire fodder.
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