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0 Subject: Pats v. Giants, pick your network: CBS, NBC, NFL

Posted by: ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
- [3111422611] Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 17:23

Patriots' historic game to be available to all of America

Three-network simulcast!
1Perm Dude
      ID: 481151269
      Wed, Dec 26, 2007, 17:56
The NFL really missed a chance to increase sales of the NFL network throughout New England by giving in on this one.

For the rest of us, the fallout from the writers' strike continues to plague us...
2J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 09:46
Meanwhile Fox is showing Cops and America's Most Wanted. Interesting!

I am surprised that the NFL didn't make CBS/NBC bid for the right so only one of them would have the rights to simulcast it.
3Rendle
      ID: 345351510
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 09:49
PD, I think the local networks normally play the games. Unless it was an exception, Fox aired the Steelers/Browns game that was on a Thursday night last season.
4Bond, James Bond
      Sustainer
      ID: 04352469
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 09:53
I'm just surprised that the NFL caved in on this. When was the last simulcast.....Super Bowl I????

Gotta feeling that Fox isn't involved because.....................

Can you imagine if New England is undefeated and in the Super Bowl? Will Fox share their coverage??? LOL I don't think so!
6Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 10:26
saw this somewhere...

How long until someone invents the Bryant Gumbel drinking game? Maybe someone already has done so.

Take one drink every time he misidentifies a player.

Take two drinks every time he misidentifies a team.

Take one drink every time he says someone “appears to have a first down” when there’s simply no question at all that it is a first down because the player is a good 2-3 yards beyond the line to gain.

Take two drinks and pound head on table when he reads from an obviously prepared script during player introductions and misses the snap because he takes too long to do the intros.

Take three drinks when he can’t figure something out that is obvious to anyone with more than a rudimentary knowledge of football (an obvious false start, a timeout called, a challenge flag thrown, etc.).

Take five drinks and throw remote at TV when he says a field goal is good when the ball is obviously short and the officials are making the “no good” signal. (This actually happened a few weeks ago.)
7Texas Flood
      ID: 811592620
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 10:31
LOL Grate One. Listening to Bumble has just been torture all
season long. I've be moving to NBC.
8J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 10:41
I think Flood already starting playing? :)
9Texas Flood
      ID: 811592620
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 11:02
J, just got a new I-Mac and the keyboard is so much different in
size compared to my PC. I'm really having some typing issues.

Love the computer though:).
10Razor
      ID: 281191313
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 11:09
NFL Network is awful precisely because of Gumbel. Not only does he have a horrible voice for television, he is a terrible game announcer.
11blue hen
      ID: 16322314
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 12:11
Didn't you listen to the song?

So buy a PC and not a Mac this holiday season or any other time for goodness sake!
12Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 13:32
Gumble is horrible...I like Collingsworth; but they've got to get another play by play guy.

IMHO I thought the MNF team was very good ( I know a lot of folks don't like TK,but a lot of people didn't like Cosell either)... Madden/ Michaels is starting to get a teensy bit tired; but the best team may be Buck/Aikman....and I don't even like the Cowboys.
13wiggs
      ID: 51013815
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 13:33
I like Aikman and Buck and Kenny and Moose
14Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 14:24
I believe this had a little something to do with it: Battle Lines - Jason Cole

Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't CBS get the rights to the game b/c a AFC team is visiting a NFC team?

Also, NBC owns exclusive rights to all games played in primetime on the weekend per their contract with the NFL...

Collinsworth - the Rolls Royce of announcers. He could do both color and play-by-play.

Aikman is really good but I could do without Buck. He should stick to baseball.

I like Gus Johnson. He gets so excited, like the Lee Evans catch for the 80 yard TD vs the Jets back in week 8.

Still, the best broadcasting tadem in all sports:
Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson. SEC on CBS...3pm every Saturday.
15Toral
      ID: 575542418
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 14:51
There seems to be a growing consensus this year that Collinsworth is a top NFL announcer (color man). I agree with it, and think he is. I don't think he'll ever be an A announcer -- a little too understated for that -- but he could be B++ for a long time.

I post this because opinions about most NFL announcers (and especially color men) differ greatly among fans in my experience. I don't find it unusual for some guy to be rated at the top and at the bottom by different groups of equally knowledeable fans.

Dissenters on Collinsworth?

Toral
16Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 25105466
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 19:31
GO(#6) - yeah, I thought about making a drinking game during last week's broadcast. His repeated use of the terms 'seemingly', 'apparently', and 'unofficially' was particularly annoying. Unofficially, Romo now has three touchdown passes on the day after what would appear to be a 30 yard pass play. Maybe after 6 drinks that would be tolerable.
17Texas Flood
      ID: 811592620
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 19:43
I don't mind Collinsworth, but can't stand Costas and Olberman.
Costas is just plain sappy and Olberman is just a smart ass.

My favorite play by play guy is Al Micheals, but as far as i'm
concerned Madden brings the whole thing down a notch. John's
time has come and gone.
18Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Thu, Dec 27, 2007, 20:27
Kevin Harlan should do football... I love when he gets fired up when an NBA player gets particularly hot.

My favorite last year? "Mikki Moore is an ASSASAIN!!!"
19Kyle
      Donor
      ID: 052753312
      Fri, Dec 28, 2007, 04:26
RE 18:
Kevin Harlan doing college ball is the best.
I remember this moment from last year and I remember talking with a friend before the game saying the tourney doesn't start until Harlan utters his famous line.
20Peter@ds'
      ID: 5611122810
      Fri, Dec 28, 2007, 11:22
My favorite play by play guy is Gus Johnson. He's awesome during March Madness and for football games. I hope CBS starts to give him better football games to cover as he gains experience.

Gumble drives me through the roof. How about taking a shot everytime he makes a smarta$$ comment and makes it seem like his opinion is superior. The guy is clueless and about as bad as I've seen for play by play. Twice last week he also said that it was a 1st down even though it was clear the guy was short. Collinsworth is just a big wimp too as you never see him have the nerve to correct Gumble.
21Perm Dude
      ID: 481151269
      Fri, Dec 28, 2007, 17:24
It runs in the Gumble family.
22C1-NRB
      ID: 17348117
      Fri, Dec 28, 2007, 22:06
Speaking of ESPN's MNF team...

It's bothered me all season long and this is as good a time as any...

To Mike Turico: Not every play is the most spectacular play in the history of ever. It's OK to get a little excited when something great happens, but needing two and gaining three on second down at mid-field in the third quarter is no reason to scream like your hair is on fire.

Also, quit trying to tell me the outcome of the play before the whistle blows. How many times will you say, "He's stopped for a loss in the backfield. No. Wait. He gets away and breaks it to the outside where he's run out of bounds. Wait. HE'S STILL ON HIS FEET! THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE A TOUCHDOWN! NO! CAUGHT FROM BEHIND AT THE ELEVEN YARD LINE. FIRST AND GOAL!

To Ron Jaworski: I like the breakdown and analysis you do/did on the Countdown shows, but the 40 seconds in between plays is not long enough for you to breakdown the check-off to the third receiver when the defense is in a two deep cover two and the weakside linebacker comes on a delayed blitz as the strong side end and tackle run a stunt.

To Tony Kornheiser (sp?): You I don't mind; keep up the good work.
23Bond, James Bond
      Sustainer
      ID: 04352469
      Fri, Dec 28, 2007, 23:06
The MNF squad is certainly lacking in many respects IMHO. Kornheiser is way, way, way out of his element and needs a pink-slip (not to wear, but then again...why not? LOL) ASAP.

I'm not a big fan of Tirico but he's decent. Jaws is just okay with me.

Enough of the celebrity-types that come in for their network mandated cameos. Can't MNF just be about football? Is there anything wrong with actually giving the audience what they want? They don't want Kornheiser; they don't want cameos; they want football, football analysis and football statistics defined intelligently. Oh, did I say they also wanted football???? ;)

24Boxman
      ID: 571114225
      Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 11:45
wiggs: I like Aikman and Buck and Kenny and Moose

I agree with Aikman and Buck. I think Buck is much more entertaining during a football broadcast than a baseball one. Maybe it's because Aikman is his sidekick instead of that god awful McCarver.

I'll be watching the game on CBS tonight. I bet a split screen CBS/NBC viewing would be interesting for a few plays. I'll give it a whirl.
25mjd
      Leader
      ID: 501381415
      Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 12:01
With all the crappy MNF games this year, I guess they feel it's necessary to shill all their network affiliates shows (ABC) and have lame guests during the game.

It's become like watching The View.
26J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 14:45
Boxman - i think you'll be disappointed on the split screen. As far as I know, they will be exactly the same...I think

I agree with Bond, those cameo's have GOT to go. No one watching the football game wants to know Jay-Z's touring plans! And I'm just glad I don't have to hear about Hannah Montana ever again. C'mon ESPN, that had to be an all time low!!!
27wolfer
      ID: 14982815
      Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 19:05
Re 2 (sort of)


This is why Fox is left out.

28Boxman
      ID: 571114225
      Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 20:28
Boxman - i think you'll be disappointed on the split screen. As far as I know, they will be exactly the same...I think

You're right. They are the same. I've got CBS and NBC on the split screen and it's nearly identical even right down to the commericials mostly.
29I_AM_CANADIAN
      Donor
      ID: 1361448
      Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 23:42
Amazing game. Glad I didn't miss this one.
30Perm Dude
      ID: 5311302910
      Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 00:05
I thought Gumbel was going to go down to the field and give Brady a BJ in the fourth quarter, however.

VG game. But Collingsworth was right that it won't mean anything if they don't win it all out now.
31Boxman
      ID: 571114225
      Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 06:21
It was a great game to watch. The Giants almost pulled it out. The broadcasting was atrocious. Gumby and Collinsworth are just brutal. I agree with PD. I thought Gumby had a ring in his pocket and was going to propose after the final kneel down by Brady. Buck and Aikman would've been a lot better.
32Texas Flood
      ID: 811592620
      Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 08:45
The Pats had better tighten up that defense or pray for bad
weather @home during the play offs. From what I saw last night
the Colts and the real Manning will burn em down!
33Razor
      ID: 3411283010
      Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 11:28
I thought Gumbel was going to go down to the field and give Brady a BJ in the fourth quarter, however.

Didn't even compare to Gary Danielson's love for Tebow.
34Electroman
      ID: 4111212723
      Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 12:20
The Giants really blew it. When the Pats scored to make it 28-25, they felt some pressure I am sure, because they stopped running the ball. Coughlin and his idiots have got to go. The only good coach there is the D Coordinator.
35J
      ID: 259112010
      Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 12:54
Who's #91 that the Pats had a sticker on their helmet for? Are they the only team not to wear a #21 sticker???
36steve houpt
      ID: 451161019
      Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 13:53
Marquise Hill, #91

Hill death ruled accident
37J
      ID: 259112010
      Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 14:20
Thanks source, don't remember hearing about that. Still seems odd that the Patriots seem to be the only team without a 21 on there.
38steve houpt
      ID: 451161019
      Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 16:44
J - The reason I remembered, I happened to be in New Orleans when it happened and it was a big story. Born in New Orleans, De La Salle New Orleans HS and LSU grad.
39Electroman
      ID: 4111212723
      Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 18:15
Saw that the Bills weren't wearing the 21 either, but the Eagles were.
40Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Wed, Jan 02, 2008, 13:24
Didnt know where to post this, but does anyone have any press clippings on how Jeremy Shockey's New Years Eve bash went?
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