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Subject: Parcells starts cleaning house
Posted by: Bond, James Bond
- Sustainer [04352469] Mon, Dec 31, 2007, 22:57
Bill Parcells made his first move toward what I believe will be a total makeover in the Dolphin organization:
General Manager let go....
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| 1 | Bond, James Bond
Sustainer
ID: 04352469
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 00:38
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Here goes the rest of the housecleaning:
Coach Cameron and 16 others given da boot!
Not terribly surprising at all. Having finished off his big week Parcells can now look forward to the words, "with the 1st pick of the 2008 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select"...................whom?
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| 2 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 421148121
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 07:33
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Though they don't need him and he hasn't officially put his name in the draft, I could see them taking Darren McFadden. I don't think MIA is sold on Ronnie Brown (a mistake, in my Auburn mind) and McFadden would be a way for them to say, "Look, we're starting from scratch here to bring in guys that are going to build a franchise to win."
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| 3 | WiddleAvi
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Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 08:19
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KKB - Why would they not be sold on him? Before he was injurd this year he led the league in yards from scrimmage, and was averaging 5 YPC.
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| 4 | WiddleAvi
ID: 251113917
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 08:20
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I think the Dolphins try and trade the 1st pick. If they cannot then they take Long from Michigan.
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| 5 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 08:44
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KKB - Why would they not be sold on him? Before he was injurd this year he led the league in yards from scrimmage, and was averaging 5 YPC.
I don't know why they wouldn't be sold on him, but there was a lot of talk about Brown splitting carries with Chatman coming into this season. And when the season started, he got 11 carries in each of his first two games (65 rushing yards).
He went on to get more carries and yards until getting injured, but it just seems to me that they'll find an excuse to not have him be their franchise RB going forward.
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| 6 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 10:04
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They'd be morons to take a RB that high. Its been proven time and time again that its not a wise investment to put a boatload of money into a RB.
Look at the draft that brought Ronnie Brown, Cedric Benson, and Cadillac Williams; ALL 3 are on IR! Plus once they get a serious injury to the knee or ankles, they aren't nearly the same again! Why lockup a boatload of money into a guy who is one play away from a serious, career-ending injury?
All of their replacements were just as good as the starters as far as moving the chains went.
If I am the Dolphins...I go with the safest pick in the draft - Jake Long, followed by Glenn Dorsey. Both I think you cant go wrong with. With Jake Long, you can compare him to Joe Thomas who has taken (to quote Peter King) a "D-minus line and turned it into a B+ line along with Eric Steinbach" and protect the QB and clear holes for the RB to run rampant.
Dorsey is great, and will anchor the line for years to come...but an offensive lineman is statistically the safest pick of them all. over 80% of the time when they're drafted in the first 10 picks they turn out to be successes.
EX: past 15 years of lottery offensive tackle picks.
1.03 Joe Thomas - Pro Bowler
1.05 Levi Brown - Improved Cards line
1.04 D'Brickashaw Ferguson - Flashes of Greatness
1.13 Jammal Brown - Pro Bowler
1.02 Robert Gallery - Bust
1.16 Shawn Andrews - Pro Bowler
1.08 Jordan Gross - Pro Bowler
1.04 Mike Williams - Bust
1.07 Bryant McKinnie - Pro Bowler
1.10 Levi Jones - Pro Bowler (Alternate)
1.03 Chris Samuels - Pro Bowler
1.11 William "Tra" Thomas - Pro Bowler
1.01 Orlando Pace - Hall of Famer
1.06 Walter Jones - Hall of Famer
1.06 Jonathan Ogden - Hall of Famer
1.10 Willie Anderson - Pro Bowler
1.02 Tony Boselli - Hall of Famer
1.08 Willie Roaf - Pro Bowler
Go with Jake Long, hes the safest pick of em all. Plus he'll be on the field for EVERY down protecting the QB's blindside or anchoring a run game.
"The proof is in the Pudding" ~TO
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| 7 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 11:31
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Cameron is not head coach material. He needs to go back to the offensive coordinator or QBs, etc.
As for the top pick, Miami is so shallow, that I'd prob trade that top pick for multiple picks.
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| 8 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 12:04
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Don't get me wrong, *I* wouldn't take McFadden, or any other RB, with their #1 pick. It's just what I think they'll end up doing.
Personally, I'd do what Ref says and get multiple picks out of it. They need a lot more than just a single good pick.
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| 9 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 13:03
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First off...the NFL needs to do something about the rookie salaries, like the NBA.
The Raiders continually suck and teams like the Colts & Pats are continually good b/c they dont have to pay unproven rookies a ridiculous amount of money. They (Oakland) constantly have to cut quality depth on their charts and are forced to make room to absorb the HUGE contract for their high draft pick. That quality depth they end up replacing with scrubs at the veteran or rookie minimum, thus reducing the caliber of overall talent on the team.
The Colts/Pats, by continually drafting lower in the first round, or even drafting in the 1st round at all, don’t have to pay ridiculous salaries to unproven rookies. They then lock up their high end proven talent instead (Manning, Harrison, Wayne, Freeney, Sanders, etc.) whereas the Raiders get stuck in a crapshoot (Gallery, Huff, Russell, etc.) in hope to get better.
JaMarcus Russell = $35m guaranteed / 6 years + his rookie salaries nearly puts him at 10% of the available cap space. Same with the 49ers and Alex Smith...set that franchise back alot too.
Getting the #1 overall pick might give you a chance to secure some supreme talent, or handcuff you to a bonafide bust with a CRAPPY salary, thus setting your franchise back 2-3 years (a la Oakland...having to clear space to make room for Robert Gallery's ridiculous contract).
That being said, what team is going to be foolish enough to pony up some draft picks to pay some unproven rookie (mcfadden, dorsey, long & long, ryan, etc.) $35-40m guaranteed over 6 years?
Depth wins in today's NFL...and across all sports with hard salary caps.
The NBA might get alot of things wrong, but they are spot-on with the draft...
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| 10 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 13:06
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Also, the Raiders dont have the most stable front office either. (I realized I took arguably the two strongest, most stable front offices and compared them to the laughing stock of the NFL the past 5 years). Nevertheless, rookie salaries moreoften hurt teams rather than help them.
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| 11 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 13:08
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Believe me, there will be teams interested if Miami would offer that pick. They all want that next Peyton Manning and are willing to pay in the hopes that he comes. We all know that the Peyton's of the world are very rare, but apparently many NFLers can't figure that out.
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| 12 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 13:35
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None of these QB's coming out have:
A) Peyton's Pedigree
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B) Peyton's Collegiate Success
Look at the Giants...Eli Manning's 2008 cap # is a whopping $11.4 MILLION!!!!!!!!!
I'll give you some time to let that think in
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$11.4 Million. All b/c he was the #1 overall pick.
Lets be serious here, does anyone honestly think Eli is worth that salary?
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| 13 | Myboyjack
ID: 8216923
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 13:52
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Believe me, there will be teams interested if Miami would offer that pick. They all want that next Peyton Manning and are willing to pay in the hopes that he comes
I don't think so. With the salary slotting for rookies, unless a sure fire QB is available (there ain't one even close in this draft), the #1 pick is a liabilty.
Houston sure didn't want it 2 years ago and couldn't get a taker. Ya think people are looking at the $40 mil. Oakland shelled out fot a guy who wasn't even in pads until Sept and are thinking, "Me too!"
The Alex Smith pick speaks for itsself.
Unless Mike Ditka comes back to the NFL right away Miami won't be finding a rich market for that pick; it's just not that "valuable"
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| 14 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 14:13
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Great post MBJ!
Only in the NFL do the rookies get that ridiculous salary boost for getting in the lottery.
You don't see that with the NBA or hockey...thats why something has to be done ASAP. The Salary Cap levels the playing field but at the same time cripples the ability of a small market team (Oakland) to compete by getting forced to shell out $40m in guarantees to an unproven player.
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| 15 | Nerfherders
ID: 501035289
Mon, Jan 07, 2008, 11:57
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I think it's pretty much been covered here - The Dolphins would be well served to trade the #1 pick for multiple picks but I seriously doubt there are any takers. So if I were them I would buck the trend and take one of the two linemen. Their skill players are actually pretty decent, except for QB, but I dont think there is a QB that would be #1 quality - it is possible to be able to get one in the second or third round. They are also not sure what they have in John Beck. He might be the real deal.
The Dolphins also need alot of help on defense, particularly interior linemen and defensive backs. Their safeties are bad and the CB's arent much better. They also need to think about replacing Zach Thomas at MLB. (Dan Conner is my dream player here but he's not #1)
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| 16 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Mon, Jan 07, 2008, 12:57
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Isn't that John Goodman's character on Roseanne? He would make a good LB...
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| 17 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jan 07, 2008, 13:20
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Again, while I totally agree with Slizz and mbj about the cash (and liabilities therof) for that #1 pick, my contention is that there are teams interested in that pick and making a move for it. Not sure what, if anything, will happen, but there is interest nonetheless. It amazes me how much in salary some of these "NFL brainiacs" make and yet many layman could do some of the basic stuff better.
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| 18 | Electroman
ID: 4111212723
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 13:01
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Parcells starts redecorating, hires Sparano .
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| 19 | Bond, James Bond
Sustainer
ID: 04352469
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 13:17
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Sparano is a solid pick for the Dolphins and I believe he'll do well in Miami. Now they do have to address their QB situation----I don't think Lemon is the answer and maybe not even Beck; Ronnie Brown needs to come back healthy and finally they need some good mojo along their defensive line. Of course they will get to play a last-place team schedule so right away they should be close to average next year.
Having the first pick in the draft will also help but with so many different needs, I'd trade the pick, go lower in the first round and pick up an additional second or third rounder.
Now, if they just didn't have to play those amazing Pats twice a year....
I think Parcells has done quite well so far and----watch out here----I think they just may be a playoff team next year!
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| 20 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 13:36
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Dolphins will indeed be back possibly as early as 2009/10. Everywhere Parcells goes, the talent level is immediately improved while he lays the "foundation" for the future.
New England
New York Jets
Dallas
All were in 10x better shape than when he got there.
His track record is near-flawless and like he said, "this is a talent evaluation business..." IMHO there has been no better talent evaluator since '91 than the big tuna.
As for those "amazing Patriots", the guy who shops for the grocieries up there is parcells nephew (Pioli)...go figure.
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| 21 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 15023167
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 15:54
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Heard on PTI the other night (forget when and I'm COMPLETELY paraphrasing based on my memory)...
Kornheiser: "McFadden is entering the NFL draft. Where does he go?"
Wilbon: "The Dolphins need a running back, so I think he'll go #1."
... and this is the kind of thinking that makes me think the Dolphins will take McFadden... even though they don't need a running back.
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| 22 | TB
ID: 111048300
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 20:52
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Every year the teams picking at the top have a lot of holes to fill, hence the reason they are drafting at the top. By the same rationale, whoever picks #1 in 2009, 2010, 2011, etc. should also trade away their top pick to fill all the holes they have.
And Slizz, did you just start watching football five years ago, lets say right after the 2002 superbowl? Continually sucking? The Raiders are on a bad 5-year stretch that hit rock-bottom last season. This year, even though they didn't get many wins, they made some strides as a team and I expect them to compete next season or at least be decent. New England is not a model franchise. Prior to the Brady years, New Englad had 7 play-off wins dating back over 45 years. That would be a better definition of continually sucking, btw. Belichick had a losing record 5 of his 6 first years as a head coach, but now he is a genius? Having a HOF QB will do that for anybody. And the Colts? They went from 1978 to 1999, that's 21 years, without posting a double-digit win total. Yes, 1999 was Mannings second season in the league. They've only had one season that wasn't double-digit wins since.
You can do all the deep thinking you want. Take away Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and you now have two good, but very average teams. I think it's worth the risk of a big contract to find that next great QB. Not every team is going to luck out and draft an unheralded QB in the 6th round and have him turn into gold.
From post #9 above, please name one quality player the Raiders ever had to cut because they needed cap room. That entire argument is completely out of left field.
More stats while I am on a rant.
Since 1960 the Raiders have had 10 seasons where they won 5 or less games. The Patriots have had 16.
The Raiders have only had 3 seasons where they won 3 or less games and only one since 1962. The Patriots have had 7 of those seasons, with 3 of them coming since the 80's.
Regular season records since 1960.
Raiders: 400-313
Patriots: 366-349
I will give the Patriots this much for sure, records over the last 5 years:
Raiders: 19-61
Patriots: 66-14
Pretty pathetic for the Raiders, but every team has had a bad stretch in their history and it just happens to be that the Raiders suck-stretch is current. Take away the last five years and here were their records, 1960-2002:
Raiders: 381-252
Patriots: 300-335
I took a quick peak at all the franchise winning percentages over the history of their franchise and only 4 teams (Dolphins, Cowboys, Bears, and Browns) are listed with a higher winning percentage than the Raiders. I didn't go do any "since-1960" math, but I'm guessing the Browns and Bears would drop below the Raiders. You'd have to go down ten more spots to find the Pats. Hey, if Brady stays healthy and they go undefeated another 4-5 years they can jump right up there.
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| 23 | BoNkA
Donor
ID: 019742310
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 21:40
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Lots of good points TB. It's also been said the Patriots always do well despite injuries. Not that I'm wishing anything here, but I'd love to see them play without Brady. My guess is they'd be, as you said, a good but average team. Sadly, they'd still win a once competitive division.
As far as my Dolphins' upcoming draft...I sure hope we don't take McFadden, as good as he may be. The RB situation may not be the best with Brown hurt, Chatman, and Mr Smoke a Bowl, but I'd imagine RB won't be the weak point next year. Beefing up the offensive line, getting younger on defense, or finding a quality QB if Beck is not the guy are all better options and needed.
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| 24 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 10:20
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QB.....key need for Miami. Then the defense needs to be bolstered I think. (Paraphrasing Vonce Lombardi on his concentration of Defense...) "If they cant score, we cant lose." Thinking back to the Marino era in Mia, they lacked Def for the most part. When Mia won, they displayed a trait toward winning 42-35 or something similar. Compare that era to the Bob Griese era and the 17-0 team, yes they had a solid "O", but they also fielded a very strong "No Name Defense".
Havent bothered doing the research TB did above (good info btw), but casual observation leads me to think that Defense, QB and an ability to run the ball; have been central to winning Championships in the past. (Moss and his 23 TD receptions this year, may be changing the way we look at WRs though.)
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| 25 | Electroman
ID: 4111212723
Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 12:09
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This would never happen, but why don't they fix the error that they made last year, trade the pick to Cleveland for Quinn. The Browns could use a RB to take over from Lewis.
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| 26 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 13:13
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Cleveland would have to send more than Quinn to get #1... but its a very good idea. But you are right in "real life" it would never happen. Teams never have the guts to make such bold moves.
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| 27 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 13:23
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Agreed with GO. Miami is in such shambles that they'd want multiple picks for #1. But what you want and what you'll take is often two different stories. Maybe Quinn and a lower round pick would save face.
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| 30 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 12:34
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link
Weird. Thanks sarge.
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| 31 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 12:38
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yw. :)
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| 32 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 13:43
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lol Ref...I read that over lunch and immediately thought of you!
As for if they'll get any bites? Good luck!
I think the key is finding out who the #3 & #4 really covet. Kansas City, likely, has the best shot of moving up; They need offensie line help, bad. Assuming Croyle is their starter, they already have a "stud" RB, Future WR, and a Elite TE. All that with old or crappy offensive lineman. If St. Louis tips their hand that they're eying up Long, Dorsey, or Chris Long...maybe KC will make a move.
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| 33 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 15:42
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Yeah. They should hire me!
If someone needs Defensive Tackle help in a big way, it should be worth it. Too bad the Colts don't have enough picks.
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| 34 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jan 28, 2008, 00:41
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ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports the Cowboys have a strong interest in Arkansas RB Darren McFadden.
Dallas has the No. 22 and No. 28 picks in the first round, so moving up in the draft won't be a problem. Moving up high enough to have a shot at McFadden will be difficult. The Cowboys would likely have to move ahead of the Falcons, who draft third. Miami is known to be interested in trading down.
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| 36 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Mon, Jan 28, 2008, 09:56
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TB, I respect the post. Sorry I didn't comment on it earlier. You bleed Black & Silver...but I call it like I see it and in a league where you are judged on your most recent performances (i.e. Last 4 years), I stand by my words. Its absolutely pitiful that the Patriots might have more wins this season then the Raiders have had in the past 5 years.
I like what Kiffin has done and his impact can be echoed from players like Justin Fargas who now feel that for the first time in a while its loose in Oakland. Now Al Davis wants him out! Ridiculous. Moves like that are why they are the NFL's new Bengals.
Now I am a Bears fan, for those who do not know and yes, the Bears are one of the most storied franchises; lets face it, until Jerry Angelo arrived in Chicago, the Bears were a measuring stick for mediocrity (5-11 to 7-9 each season).
From Peter King's MMQB:
Stat of the Week I
What exactly has been going on in Oakland since the Raiders reached the Super Bowl? The records, and coaches, of the Oakland Raiders since 2003:
2003: 4-12 under Bill Callahan;2004: 5-11 under Norv Turner;2005: 4-12 under Norv Turner; 2006: 2-14 under Art Shell;2007: 4-12 under Lane Kiffin.Total: 19-61.
Stat of the Week II
The worst teams in the NFL since 2003:
1. Oakland 19-61
2. San Francisco 25-55
3. Detroit 26-54
4. Arizona 28-52
4. Houston 28-52
This ineptitude has been going on for a half-decade now. To put some perspective on how absolutely horrible Oakland has been, consider that the run began the year after the Raiders went to the Super Bowl. You don't go to the Super Bowl with a horrendous base of talent. There has to be some ability there. Yet, in the five years following that appearance, the Raiders have been significantly worse than every one of the four expansion teams of this generation have been in their first five seasons.
You can look it up. In regular-season records, Jacksonville (49-31), Carolina (38-42), Cleveland (26-54) and Houston (24-56) averaged 34 wins in their first five seasons of existence -- 15 more than the Raiders have had in their last five seasons.
Stat of the Week III
The Raiders' winning percentage over the last five years is .238. The Tampa Bay Rays' (nee Devil Rays) is .404.
The problem is Al Davis. It seems that Today's game has passed him by. Long gone are the days of old-school football where now this has become more of a Chess-match X's & O's coaching strategy type game more than ever.
As for Belichick, that has no relevance on the Oakland Raiders or my point. Its personnel decisions combined with coaching. A strong Front Office will usually lead to success in between the hashes as well. To me its baffling that some coaches. such as Jim Fassel, never get 2nd stints/opportunities (like Belichick) as a head coach.
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| 37 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Mon, Jan 28, 2008, 10:05
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Fassell did just get a Skins interview I hear...
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| 38 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jan 28, 2008, 10:29
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Not to hijack the dolphins thread, but one more point about Al Davis...he needs to get out. He has such an ego that it will never happen. He hired Kiffen to get a coach for cheap and now he's trying to get him to resign so he doesn't have to pay the remaining two years on his deal. Smartly Kiffin has refused and has dared Davis to fire him. From what I've been reading is that it will probably have to be a settlement but don't expect Kiffin to caoch for the raiders next year.
Kiffin is young and obviously wanted to be a head coach in the NFL, but may have the worst arrangement in the NFL. He has no control over his staff or personnel decisions. He doesn't have quality players and his team stinks. I would have jumped at one of those college jobs too if I could have!!!
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| 39 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Mon, Jan 28, 2008, 12:26
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The Raiders are the NFL equivalent of the Knicks these days...
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| 40 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Mon, Jan 28, 2008, 13:56
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Rumor had it, he wanted the Arkansas job and was extremely upset when he did not get it. People will eventually see that Kiffin is the real deal. Personally, I like Kiffin and I think he will, one day, make a great coach. It can be argued that working in such hard and unfortunate circumstances will only make him that much better in the long-run. I mean with or without kiffin, their records still stunk. At least he was finally starting to change the cultures there.
GO - I was just using Fassel as an example. Its about time he finally got an interview. Fassel led a Giants team to multiple winning seasons (everything is off the top of my head here), a super bowl berth and he barely gets a sniff for a second hire. Oh, and in the NFL's elite eight. Over 1/2 of the coaches there were re-hires.
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| 41 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 16:15
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I think it's stupid for Jerry Jones to offer Marion Barber and his two first rounders for the overall first rounder from the Dolphins for the rights to draft McFadden.
Like I said, there are some stupid people in the NFL and offers like this represent that statement. It would be stupid for the Phins to reject that deal.
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| 42 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 17:25
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Agreed Ref. Barber is a SOLID starter and the Phins would have a difficult time trying to get a better offer than that.
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| 43 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 421148121
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 21:21
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I think D-Mac will do well in the NFL, but a proven back in Barber and 2 first rounders for him? Absolutely. Why would Parcells even think about that trade?
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| 44 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 11:18
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Which begs the question...why hasn't this deal been made? It's not like anyone can reign in JJ once he gets his mind set on something. If he has actually made the offer as multiple sources supposedly said, this should be announced before JJ starts reading the media and tries to save (his new) face.
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| 45 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 12:49
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Well said, Ref. Jerry Jones has made it no secret he covets McFadden. Both are Arkansas alumns and Jones love to make that media splash.
Personally, I believe that he made the deal with the Browns under the impression that they would really stink again and would, in all likelihood, have a top 5 pick. Then he could concoct some type of package to easily get the #1/McFadden.
"Bill Parcells had several stellar drafts in Dallas; without him the 'Boys will be back to taking the likes of Quincy Carter."
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| 46 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 13:49
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Funny how the Cowboys got that pick thinking the Browns would stink - and the 49ers trade theirs to NE cause they though they would be in the playoffs this year!
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| 47 | Peter N.
ID: 460332920
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 14:06
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There is no way in hell the Cowboys would trade Marion the Barbarian AND two 1st round picks for the rights to McFadden. That's the funniest rumor I've heard this offseason.
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| 48 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 14:17
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Jerry Jones was the one quoted from two different sources. It isn't a rumor.
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| 49 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 16:37
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Chris Mortensen...usually he wont report BS. I understand how blogs can carry little to zero credible weight, but when its announced on sportscenter/sunday countdown, it should garner some credence.
and also, a HALIRIOUS exerpt from Chris "Boomer" Berman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnC8BtNBNLo
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| 50 | Peter N.
ID: 460332920
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 16:42
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That's Jerry blowing smoke. He's not that stupid.
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| 51 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 14:06
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Peter King estimated on HBO's Inside the NFL Thursday that there's a 75% chance Lane Kiffin will be out of a job in the next couple of weeks.
For a few days, it seemed as if Kiffin might be staying in Oakland, but King believes things will "come to a head" shortly. King added that Dennis Green would be the favorite to take over if Kiffin is fired or bought out.
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| 52 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 5412429
Sat, Feb 02, 2008, 12:11
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Post 49 deserves a thread of its own. Who'd have thought Chris Berman had such a potty mouth! Deadspin also has the video embedded (just in case it gets yanked at YouTube).
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| 53 | TB
ID: 330252313
Sun, Feb 03, 2008, 00:00
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I like Chris Berman. You can tell his stress level was maxed. His head kept shaking.
Nobody is more diappointed in the Raiders over the last five years then their fans. If Kiffin isn't the coach this next season, I won't go out of my way to watch a game all next year because I know they will suck again. I can't wait for Al Davis to no longer be affiliated with the Raiders. He's been a part of the team since I've been a fan and I will always have great respect for him, but it really is time for him to go. While I do not think he's lost any of his football mind and the game hasn't passed him by, I do think he's lost his judgement and places his gigantic ego before the team. As a fan it is really tiring. Losing sucks, but what makes it worse is when you know you have a coach who can right the ship and the owner just keeps mucking it up.
And Slizz, I already posted those numbers above after going and looking them up. Was last year a five year limit as well or will next year, after the Raider have yet another losing season, then become 6 years? I work numbers all day and can put a positive spin on any records that someone else can put a negative spin on. I've been watching football for thirty years, so while I do have the ability to appreciate what a team is doing this season or what they did last season, when you start using words like continually and forever and always, I tend to look at the entire body of work. The Raiders are still one of the most storied franchises in NFL history. They suck today and they sucked yesterday and they will suck tomorrow, but eventually they won't suck again and it will be someone else on the bottom of the pile. There are a lot of teams who never even gotten to the top of that pile.
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