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Posted by: Seattle Zen
- Leader [055343019] Thu, Sep 02, 2010, 01:37



Red Turf is the most important thing to happen to college football in 2010.

Obviously we need to have the BCS title game in Cheney, WA very soon.

Go Huskies!
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66Seattle Zen
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      Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 00:23
Apple Cup! Chris Polk runs for 284 yards!

Washington Huskies, you are going to a Bowl Game! Man, that's music to my ears!

And I now admit that Auburn has earned its place in the BCS game, begrudgingly.
67DWetzel
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      Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 12:59
Wanted: triangular field for 3-way football game.
68KrazyKoalaBears
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      Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 09:34
RE: 10

I never could have (rationally) predicted this season for Auburn. I can't wait for the championship game. Auburn's defense has come a long way in a short time and they're really shutting teams down in the second half. In their last 5 SEC games, they've only allowed 37 points in the second half and that includes 14 allowed against Ole Miss with backups in the game.

It'll be VERY interesting to see if Auburn can pull off the same kind of second half defense against Oregon. If so, it could make for a more lopsided game than most expect. That, of course, is highly optimistic. I'm more expecting a shootout that will come down to the last few possessions, but I REALLY like Auburn's chances.

WAR EAGLE!
69Razor
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      Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 09:41
Who is expecting a lopsided game?
70Great One
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      Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 10:08
I'll take the over, is it 100?
71KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 517068
      Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 11:06
RE: 69. Nobody. They're expecting a close one (from what I've read). I'm saying it COULD get lopsided. The wording of that sentence is just weird. I'm blaming it on all the recent traveling. :)
72Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Wed, Dec 08, 2010, 00:14
Boise State blasts BCS over error.

Should have seen this one coming. When you've got a clean shot at a self-righteous and bloated BCS you gotta take a swing.
73slizz
      ID: 1710161519
      Fri, Dec 10, 2010, 00:53
boo freakin hoo. bye bye BSU!
74KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 12353217
      Sat, Dec 11, 2010, 18:20
RE: 1
Watching the North Dakota/Eastern Washington FCS playoff game on TV right now and the field looked terrible at first. Now that snow has started to cover most of the field, it looks even worse. It's a pretty shade of pink now. At least red is fierce. Pink is just, um, not right for football.
75KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 12353217
      Sat, Dec 11, 2010, 18:21
Haha! My wife just said, "They're just being supportive of breast cancer awareness."
76Seattle Zen
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      ID: 055343019
      Fri, Dec 31, 2010, 01:52
Oh hell yeah! Huskies destroy Nebraska's offense, they got nothing. What an amazing turn around, after getting waxed at home this year to this same squad, the Dawgs give Nebraska less than 200 yards of offense.

Going from 0-12 to today in just two years, all hail Steve Sarkisian. I'm looking forward to seeing UW in BCS games in the near future. I love college football.
77Seattle Zen
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      ID: 055343019
      Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 01:43
Stanford crushes VT, it's looking good for the PAC-10 this bowl season...
78Great One
      ID: 45012311
      Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 08:59
Great showing by the mighty Big 10 so far... were they 0-5 on New Years Day?! lol... good call Ohio State, you were right TCU couldn't cut it in your awe inspiring league.

Meanwhile... in recent history the non-AQ schools improved to 4-1 in BCS bowls vs. teams with automatic BCS bids.
79KrazyKoalaBears
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      Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 09:07
Stanford crushes VT, it's looking good for the PAC-10 this bowl season...

Too bad the real test is still to be played... :)

Plus, it's not that big of a deal when only 4 of your conference's teams were even bowl eligible. Compare that to the SEC's 10 teams (only lowly Vandy and Ole Miss didn't make it) and it keeps things in perspective.

The SEC West is crushing it right now. Alabama and Miss St. combine for 101-21 victories. I'm sure Oregon is paying attention.

With Arkansas, LSU, Kentucky, and Auburn left to go, the SEC has a chance to continue making a statement as the best conference in the country... by far.
80Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 10:33
Would have liked to have seen Penn State do a little better, but that was a pretty good game. I really have no idea why Michigan continues to get big bowl bids when they clearly have a sub-par team.

Arkansas v OSU--I'm not sure I'm going to watch--these are two of my favorite teams and I won't know who to root for!
81Seattle Zen
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      ID: 055343019
      Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 11:43
All I've seen is that the SEC is better than the state of Michigan. Georgia lost to some team, Rollins, Nova Southwest, something like that.

And the only reason the PAC-10 did not have a fifth team in a bowl is that when a conference school violates NCAA regs, they don't get to go to a bowl, the polar opposite of the semi-pro squads the Securities Exchange Conference trots out. ;)

So, KKB, I'm sure you will point to that impressive Kentucky victory even after Auburn losses to prove your point.
82KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 517068
      Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 13:49
Wow! They almost had a fifth team? That would have been like HALF of what the SEC had. Okay, you've convinced me that the PAC-10 is clearly far better.

Now, back to reality...

Georgia? You're pointing to Georgia? That's laughable. First, they barely made it into a bowl. Second, they were 8th place in the SEC. If they played in the West, they would have just been ahead of Ole Miss. So, good point you made there... if it mattered.

It's also laughable that you try to write off 'Bama and Miss St. as "the SEC is better than the state of Michigan" when they had more of a beat down (in twice as many games... there's a theme there) than Stanford, who "crushed" their opponent. What's the next level above "crushed"? Because that's what 'Bama and Miss St. did.

I suppose we could continue to debate this if you manage to come up with any valid arguments. Until then, I'll thank you for being the resident Lee Corso for Auburn. Your prediction of Auburn's loss (like #40) simply guarantees their win. :)
83Great One
      ID: 45012311
      Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 14:02
I think Oregon takes Auburn.

Lets see if the SEC can finish with a cumulative bowl record above .500 before we say how great they are.
84Seattle Zen
      ID: 10732616
      Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 14:05
You talking about reality? Ha. Ladies and gentlemen, introducing the Jim Jones of the $EC, Welcome to Jonestown!
85KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 517068
      Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 16:34
I think Oregon takes Auburn.
You've been praying for an Auburn loss since Nov 8... :)

Lets see if the SEC can finish with a cumulative bowl record above .500 before we say how great they are.
It definitely can't be said right now, but they have been in the past and there's not much to disprove it so far. The remaining bowl games will either show their continued dominance or show the parity in college football, IMHO.

You talking about reality? Ha. Ladies and gentlemen, introducing the Jim Jones of the $EC, Welcome to Jonestown!
Remind me again how many PAC-10 teams compared to SEC teams have won the national championship in the last 5 years? Don't choke on YOUR Kool-Aid when you look up the answer.
86Tree, not at home
      ID: 3910441615
      Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 17:34
as annoying as frog fever can be here in Fort Worth, this year's model could take any team in the country. i'm not sure this isn't a once in a century team for this squad, but there is no question this is a top-notch group.
87Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Tue, Jan 04, 2011, 22:19
Ohio State looking pretty damn good in the first half.

If the SEC loses the last two games, pretty much no one will remember their other postseason wins this season.
88Seattle Zen
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      ID: 055343019
      Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 01:23
All I am saying is that this is a down year for the SEC. I think it is pretty obvious. We all know that Ohio State was 0-9 against the SEC in bowl games until tonight. Hell, the fact that South Carolina was in the SEC Championship game seems to say as much.

But will we get KKB to admit that? Nah, I doubt it.

89KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 517068
      Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 09:58
But will we get KKB to admit that? Nah, I doubt it.

Sorry, but I'm not as blind about the conference my team plays in as you are. Yes, the SEC, as a whole, was down this year. But, that was mostly because of the East. The West definitely held its own, as shown by Alabama being #4 in the division. Show me another division in college football THAT tough to win.

I'm actually surprised by last night's final. I went to bed when it was 31-13. With all the penalties and dropped balls Arkansas had, not to mention a Swiss Cheese Defense, I'm moderately amazed that they managed to make it a 5-point game in the end.

At the end of the day, the SEC still has more bowl wins than the "looking good" PAC-10, so I can rest easy tonight.
90boikin
      ID: 532592112
      Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 10:52
All I am saying is that this is a down year for the SEC.

For what it is worth you are right, even so they are still the best top to bottom conference. Even so I would not be surprise to see LSU go out and lose, they have been pretenders all season and had they not got bailed out in the UT game. They would have been forgotten. Auburn has been doing it with smoke and mirrors all season if ingram does not fumble in bama game they lose in a route to bama(who I think is actually the best team in the conference). Maybe this is game where there luck finally runs out.
91Great One
      ID: 45012311
      Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 11:54
I was more praying for TCU or Boise to get an opportunity. They got an opportunity and they beat one of the best teams in the country. And I have no doubt they could have beaten Oregon or Auburn if they got a chance. Its a shame they don't get one.
92KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 517068
      Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 11:54
Auburn has been doing it with smoke and mirrors all season

I certainly won't deny a lot of luck in the season Auburn has had, but what championship team doesn't have a lot of luck go their way, even if it's just with avoiding injuries? What about Oregon surviving Cal? The list could go on forever with any championship-caliber team.

But even with the luck they've had, they've also had their share of bad luck. Losing an AJ Greene was a big blow to the offensive line and losing Aairon Savage from an already inexperienced secondary was a big blow to the defense. Thankfully, Newton has mobility to make Greene's loss not matter as much and Fairley can create enough problems for the opposing offense that the secondary has time to make adjustments.

Also, let's not forget that as much as you like 'Bama this year, they were less than 2 minutes away from losing to Auburn last year, which would have spoiled their championship hopes. A fumble this year, 2 minutes last year. I don't see much of a difference, particularly in the Iron Bowl.

And wasn't 'Bama unable to follow in Auburn's footsteps in regards to South Carolina this year? Auburn showed exactly what a team needed to do to beat Carolina and 'Bama did the exact opposite. Not what I would expect from the best team in the conference. And they lost to LSU... a team you say "would have been forgotten."

If you think it's ALL smoke and mirrors, then you haven't watched Auburn play. Their offense has been able to score on any team at any time. If they can't pass it, they'll run you over. If they can't run you over, they'll pass it. It takes too many people to cover Cam Newton to be able to defend everybody else. And you haven't heard the last of Michael Dyer. Mark my words.
93KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 517068
      Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 11:56
Its a shame they don't get one.

I actually agree. I'm glad Auburn managed to get into the BCS Championship, but I still greatly despise the system. 2004 will always be in my mind... though hopefully a lot less after Monday. :)
94Great One
      ID: 45012311
      Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 12:22
I think even that "plus one" theory would be good... i can't imagine you'll ever have more than 4 teams go undefeated. Play the "final four" semi-finals on New Years Day, and then one more game a week later like they currently have it.

Has an undefeated team that got shut out ever publicly challenged the winner of the title game? If I was TCU I'd be challenging Oregon/Auburn -- meet me anywhere, anytime... and we'll see who the champ is. I'm surprised how much they restrain themselves and stay all PC.
95boikin
      ID: 532592112
      Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 15:27
Auburn showed exactly what a team needed to do to beat Carolina and 'Bama did the exact opposite.

I am sure bama would have beat them if they had gotten them at home and 3 turnovers in 4th quarter, i guess you forgot what happened the first time they played.

I will admit I think I only got to watch about 5 or 6 of their games. Wish i had seen more since they seem to make every game exciting. It should make for good title games as I am not sure if either team is going to slow anyone down, hopefully Auburn comes out on top.

96KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 12353217
      Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 19:52
i guess you forgot what happened the first time they played

Not at all. That's exactly what I was referring to. In fact, it was four turnovers in the 4th quarter. All four of Carolina's possessions in the 4th ended up with turnovers. Why? Because of what happened in the first three quarters...

First, Auburn completely shut down the Carolina running game. 'Bama did not. 79 rushing yards vs. 132.

Second, Auburn was in the Carolina backfield a LOT. 'Bama was not. 3 sacks vs. 1 sack. I'm sure QB hurries would be similarly lopsided in Auburn's favor.

Third, they got to Garcia first and Spurrier second. Anybody who has watched Spurrier for any amount of time realizes the guy HATES turnovers with a passion. By getting after Garcia a lot, Auburn managed to force a turnover. Then another. That was too much for Spurrier, who has a notoriously short leash on QBs, and he put in his backup. That backup was Connor Shaw, who was a freshman playing in his first game... in the SEC... on the road. The results were expected: 2 interceptions. Meanwhile, 'Bama allowed Garcia to go 17-for-20.

Fourth, Auburn committed to and executed the run. 334 rushing yards. That's right, almost as many rushing yards as 'Bama had TOTAL offense against Carolina (351). 'Bama didn't commit to the run and ended up with just 36 net yards. Pitiful.

Sure, playing at home helped, but the bigger reason Auburn won the first time is because they did exactly what they needed to do exactly when they needed to do it. 'Bama just didn't follow the same plan... at all.
97Pancho Villa
      ID: 597172916
      Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 19:53
There's too many bowl games, and it seems every year they're stretched out further and further into January. There's a bowl game every night through the big one Monday, and most are not that compelling. Only the Cotton Bowl on Friday is a game that's somewhat legitimate between ranked teams. Middle Tennesse State? That game should have been played about December 19th and be done with. The only reason to watch is for the sexy Danika Patrick ads.
98Tosh
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      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 22:39
Oregon Ducks Power Ballad

Go Ducks!
99KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 517068
      Fri, Jan 07, 2011, 12:48
That's pretty hilarious. Good job by Fallon!

I thought it was funny that (for me) the Oregon Ducks video started with a commercial for 5-hour Energy. "Can't get it together in the morning? Try 5-hour Energy."

They better hope they have it together in the morning and night on Monday!

100KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 12353217
      Fri, Jan 07, 2011, 22:23
Hmmm... maybe that red field wasn't such a bad idea after all.

EWU just won the FCS Championship in their first trip to the championship game.
101Seattle Zen
      ID: 055343019
      Sat, Jan 08, 2011, 00:28
I'm Nostra-freakin'-damous! Congratulations, EWU.
102RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 2511311412
      Sat, Jan 08, 2011, 12:08
Thats one butt-ugly looking shirt.
103Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 00:34
Congrats to Auburn. A good 4th quarter for both teams--as sometimes is the case, one play made all the difference.
104Seattle Zen
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      ID: 055343019
      Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 00:52
Congrats, Auburn
105KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 517068
      Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 12:01
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!! Woohoo!!! :)

RE: 102, I respectfully disagree. It is officially one of the most beautiful shirts I've ever seen! :)
106bibA
      ID: 130321112
      Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 13:32
True or false?

If another Oregon defender would have come in and hit the Auburn runner as he was being tackled by the first guy, the refs would have thrown a flag for unnecessary roughness.
107KrazyKoalaBears
      ID: 517068
      Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 16:02
RE: 106

False. The refs were clearly of the mind that they were letting the play run, so that wouldn't make any sense at all. The next guy that comes in to tackle is simply a tackler... just like the one 20+ yards down the field.
108Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 16:32
Another player coming in would have knocked his knee down.

Since the refs were letting the players get away with facemasks, obvious pass interferences, hitting out of bounds, and line movement, I doubt they would have pulled out their flag for a defensive player hitting a guy with the ball who wasn't down.
109boikin
      ID: 532592112
      Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 17:03
Was it just me or did Oregon look over matched in the game? I have to give it to both teams coaching staffs especially Oregon's they out preformed Auburn at every turn except at the talent level.
110The Beezer
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      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Jan 11, 2011, 17:16
Congrats Auburn. Nice to see their fans finally get to celebrate the big prize.
111Great One
      ID: 45012311
      Wed, Jan 12, 2011, 08:59
I felt talent level was pretty even except for the defensive line of Auburn was dominant (and obviously as an individual Cam Newton is better than any opposing QB, but he didn't really play like it this particular game).

I know many folks were complaining about the slippery surface. Both teams were slipping all over the place. And I'd imagine if your main asset is speed like Oregon, that is a major issue.
112Razor
      ID: 471172122
      Wed, Jan 12, 2011, 09:40
Teams looked pretty even to me. James getting nicked up obviously hurt Oregon.

I am happy that my Auburn friends got to celebrate a title, but I hope the NCAA strips the title if and when it is discovered that Cam was bought. And I hope Auburn gets everything short of the death penalty.
113slizz
      ID: 5611142722
      Fri, Jan 14, 2011, 19:25
KKB - Congrats...I look back at the posts about the beginning of the year and am amazed how Auburn went from dead to rights vs clemson and south carolina to national champions.

re: 109 - completely agree. I know I am a SEC homer...but last nights game wasn't more evident of how great the SEC really is. Oregon are no slouches, but maybe 5 players on that squad could start at Auburn....which is saying something considering on talent alone (total team...not just QB) they are probably 4th or 5th in the SEC behind Florida, Alabama, LSU, etc.

Oregon fought hard, but they were just overmatched by the interior athletes on Auburns defensive line led by Fairley.
114Great One
      ID: 56051423
      Sat, Jan 15, 2011, 09:44
Having the big guy in the middle seems like the big basketball programs that have a 7-footer and all the other schools don't.
115Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Mon, May 30, 2011, 20:59
Jim Tressel resigns from Ohio State, citing the distraction of tattoo-gate.
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