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Subject: Bounties
Posted by: Bond, James Bond
- [224615] Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 16:04
Can't believe there hasn't been a discussion started about bounties yet, so here goes.
Bounties? Are we really shocked that they exist? I think not. Now, does that make it right? Of course not; however, with the way the game has evolved over the years, bounties are certainly a byproduct of overagressive play.
Having said that, should the Saints be penalized, and what would be a fair penalty that would "send a message" to other teams? |
| 1 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 18:27
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I think the fact that they exist shouldn't be a surprise. I'm only a little surprised that the money involved was provided, in part, by the coaches.
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| 2 | Electroman
Donor
ID: 010833614
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 20:33
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Were Gregg Williams and Buddy Ryan on the same staff in Houston?
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| 3 | Bond, James Bond
ID: 224615
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 21:15
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Yes he was. In '90, I believe.
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| 4 | Frick
ID: 14082314
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 08:29
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I can't say I'm surprised. And I'm also not surprised that guys who make a minimum of $300k are hugely motivated by $1,000. That was paid in cash to them.
I think Gregg Williams needs to get a huge, huge suspension, along with Payton and the GM, because they were told to stop, but didn't. As bad as bounties were, continouing after being told is much, much worse.
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| 5 | Bond, James Bond
ID: 224615
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 19:05
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Wouldn't mind seeing Williams being bounced for a year or so. Coach Payton and the Saints GM need to be reprimanded sternly. In spite of their owners wishes, they both went against what he said and allowed the bounty system to continue. They're lucky to have a job. Not sure how the league will penalize the team but it sounds like a huge fine and loss of draft picks will be forthcoming.
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| 6 | sarge33rd
ID: 4717718
Thu, Mar 08, 2012, 01:31
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I'd like to see fines/penalties not all that different from what the Pats got with their taping fiasco.
Goodell has made player safety the lynchpin of his Commissionership. I dont see him going in any way at all, 'soft' on this.
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| 7 | Bond, James Bond
ID: 224615
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 23:55
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I concur sarge. Goodell will hit the Saints hard and strong......and rightly so. I suspect, however, that the Saints aren't the only bounty picker uppers in the league. Just the ones that got caught.
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| 8 | sarge33rd
ID: 4717718
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 00:17
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Agreed, though I would be genuinely surprised, if the other teams doing it to date, dont end their programs of such most 'ricky tick'.
Back when, the fine for parking ion a handi-capped slot was $50. I saw countless Mercedes-Benz, Porsches, etc etc in those slots and getting ticketed. Because the fine, was pocket change to the owners of those cars. When the state bumped the fine to $1,000; you saw the spots empty unless rightly occupied. The same theory in my mind, holds here. The fines MUST be P-A-I-N-F-U-L, or they will be seen as "the cost of admission to the amusement park".
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| 9 | Bond, James Bond
ID: 224615
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 01:13
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Handicap violaters deserve to be fined with the stiffest fine allowed by law. A message has to be set and, in the case of the Saints, has to be one that gets not only the attention of other teams but also cause these teams to realize that breaking the spirit of sportsmanship comes at a great price.
To me, it's a lot like those that speed. I'm sure we have all drove beyond the designated speed limit but if the limit isn't enforced, we'll keep doing what we've always been doing. Rules must be enforced before behavior will change!
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| 10 | sarge33rd
ID: 4717718
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 02:25
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well, Goodell certainly made it clear that he is perfectly willing to hold the coaches responsible for something like this. (And rightfully so I might add)
Head Coach suspended for the entire upcoming season AND fined $5,800,000.
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Suspended New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton will have a lot of free time in the upcoming season -- he's out of the game for the entire 2012 campaign, and he's $5.8 million lighter in the pocket after Roger Goodell told him that he was not needed this year as a result of BountyGate.
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