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Subject: RIFC 2020: draft discussion
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 10:31
I am about to generate a random order of teams at MFL. This will be the order in which we select our draft position. The draft position selection round will be held in this thread.
Remember that we use a bonzai format, which is a snake draft except that the third round is reversed. So if you take the first pick in round one, you will have the last pick in rounds 2, 3, and 4.
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| 1 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 10:38
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Here is the randomly generated order for our draft selection round:
Selection order
1 Loki
2 Promize
3 Wheatfarmers
4 twilson
5 Doug
6 Woody
7 Philly Busters
8 Jaydog
9 Valkyrie
10 Crabby Bills
11 Da Bomb
12 Guru
13 Demaryius Targaryen
14 SwinganaMiss
Draft order
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
Loki has the first selection.
When you make your selection, please copy the order. If possible, notify the next person to pick. While this is an untimed process, if the process stalls for more than 24 hours, I reserve the right to skip ahead.
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| 2 | loki
ID: 9701711
Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 12:00
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Draft order
1. loki
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
Selection order
2 Promize
3 Wheatfarmers
4 twilson
5 Doug
6 Woody
7 Philly Busters
8 Jaydog
9 Valkyrie
10 Crabby Bills
11 Da Bomb
12 Guru
13 Demaryius Targaryen
14 SwinganaMiss
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| 3 | Promize
ID: 874119
Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 21:50
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Sent an email to Dave, but picked #14
Draft order
1. loki
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14 Promize
Selection order
3 Wheatfarmers
4 twilson
5 Doug
6 Woody
7 Philly Busters
8 Jaydog
9 Valkyrie
10 Crabby Bills
11 Da Bomb
12 Guru
13 Demaryius Targaryen
14 SwinganaMiss
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| 4 | Toral
ID: 9541311
Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 07:29
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Draft order
1. loki
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12 Wheatfarmers
13
14 Promize
Selection order
4 twilson
5 Doug
6 Woody
7 Philly Busters
8 Jaydog
9 Valkyrie
10 Crabby Bills
11 Da Bomb
12 Guru
13 Demaryius Targaryen
14 SwinganaMiss
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| 5 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 07:27
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I have given twilson until 8pm ET tonight to select. After that, we'll skip him and move on. 36 hours is long enough to wait.
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| 6 | twilson
ID: 40721910
Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 11:02
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Sorry everyone, I was hiking upstate yesterday.
Draft order
1. loki
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11 twilson
12 Wheatfarmers
13
14 Promize
Selection order
5 Doug
6 Woody
7 Philly Busters
8 Jaydog
9 Valkyrie
10 Crabby Bills
11 Da Bomb
12 Guru
13 Demaryius Targaryen
14 SwinganaMiss
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| 7 | Doug
ID: 77541115
Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 17:11
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Draft order
1 loki
2
3 Doug
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11 twilson
12 Wheatfarmers
13
14 Promize
Selection order
6 Woody
7 Philly Busters
8 Jaydog
9 Valkyrie
10 Crabby Bills
11 Da Bomb
12 Guru
13 Demaryius Targaryen
14 SwinganaMiss
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| 8 | Guru
ID: 17718217
Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 08:18
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Woody emailed to me that he'll take the last pick. In the absence of greater clarity, I'm going to interpret that as meaning the latest pick available, which is #13.
Draft order
1 loki
2
3 Doug
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11 twilson
12 Wheatfarmers
13 Woody
14 Promize
Selection order
7 Philly Busters
8 Jaydog
9 Valkyrie
10 Crabby Bills
11 Da Bomb
12 Guru
13 Demaryius Targaryen
14 SwinganaMiss
Philly Busters is up
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| 9 | Philly Busters
ID: 311122313
Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 10:26
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I'll take pick 10
Draft order
1 loki
2
3 Doug
4
5
6
7
8
9
10 Philly Busters
11 twilson
12 Wheatfarmers
13 Woody
14 Promize
Selection order
8 Jaydog
9 Valkyrie
10 Crabby Bills
11 Da Bomb
12 Guru
13 Demaryius Targaryen
14 SwinganaMiss
Jaydog is up
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| 10 | jaydog
ID: 18328613
Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 12:09
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I'll take pick 8
Draft order
1 loki
2
3 Doug
4
5
6
7
8 Jaydog
9
10 Philly Busters
11 twilson
12 Wheatfarmers
13 Woody
14 Promize
Valkyrie is up
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| 11 | Valkyrie
ID: 337101618
Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 13:23
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I'll take pick 2
Draft order
1 loki
2 Valkyrie
3 Doug
4
5
6
7
8 Jaydog
9
10 Philly Busters
11 twilson
12 Wheatfarmers
13 Woody
14 Promize
Crabby bills is up
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| 12 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 16:23
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Crabby Bills select 6
Draft order
1 loki
2 Valkyrie
3 Doug
4
5
6 Crabby Bills
7
8 Jaydog
9
10 Philly Busters
11 twilson
12 Wheatfarmers
13 Woody
14 Promize
Selection order
11 Da Bomb
12 Guru
13 Demaryius Targaryen
14 SwinganaMiss
Da Bomb is up
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| 13 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 19:47
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Draft order
1 loki
2 Valkyrie
3 Doug
4 Da Bomb
5
6 Crabby Bills
7
8 Jaydog
9
10 Philly Busters
11 twilson
12 Wheatfarmers
13 Woody
14 Promize
Selection order
12 Guru
13 Demaryius Targaryen
14 SwinganaMiss
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| 14 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 21:35
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I take 9
Draft order
1 loki
2 Valkyrie
3 Doug
4 Da Bomb
5
6 Crabby Bills
7
8 Jaydog
9 Guru
10 Philly Busters
11 twilson
12 Wheatfarmers
13 Woody
14 Promize
Selection order
13 Demaryius Targaryen
14 SwinganaMiss
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| 15 | Demaryius_Targaryen
ID: 211131196
Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 14:56
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take 5. Added SwinganaMiss to 7.
Draft order
1 loki
2 Valkyrie
3 Doug
4 Da Bomb
5 Demaryius Targaryen
6 Crabby Bills
7 SwinganaMiss
8 Jaydog
9 Guru
10 Philly Busters
11 twilson
12 Wheatfarmers
13 Woody
14 Promize
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| 16 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 21:03
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Here are some guidelines for executing your draft picks.
(These are copied from prior year's threads. Please let me know if I have misspecified anything)
1. "My Draft List" - Under the "For Owners" menu (at the top), there is an item called My Draft List. You can think of this as your personal pre-ranking of players if you wish, although it has one important operational impact. If your 4-hour clock expires, then your pick will be automatically selected as the top name on your "My Draft List". Only if that list is empty will your pick be skipped. (More on this in a moment.)
2. "Pre-Draft Pick" list - You access this through "For owners->Draft"
These are the equivalent of the Drafttime.com "queue", with several important distinctions:
There is a separate list/queue for each round, and they do not carry over, and
If there is a name in your queue, that player will be immediately selected when it is your turn to draft. The only way to turn off a round-specific queue is to empty it. Therefore, it is important to keep your queues empty unless you are sure that they should be used. If you expect to want to load & unload your queue frequently (similar to turning it on or off), then you should probably keep a list of players in "My Draft list", as you can quickly pull up that short list to add players to any queue.
Of course, if you have players in "My Draft List", then you are also subject to having those players selected if you should time-out. Typically, that shouldn't be a problem, as timing-out should be a rare occurrence.
If you want to keep players loaded in "My Draft List" and you don't want to risk the top name being selected automatically upon timeout, then I suggest putting a "placeholder" player at the top of your list - preferably someone who is retired, or injured, or clearly not a viable pick. We can come up with specific placeholder options, if needed. If you time-out and a placeholder player is automatically selected for you, then you can have the commish replace that player with a real pick when you are available.
Note that because queued picks are automatically processed, there is no role tantamount to a designated picker. As commissioner, I can enter a pick on anyone’s behalf. Other than that, you – or anyone else with access to your MFL password – will be the only one who can directly enter a pick.
If your pick times out and is skipped, only the commissioner can insert a pick afterwards. If this happens to you, please send your make-up pick to me by email or text message. You can post here as well - but do not rely on this thread as the primary means of communication for a make-up pick.If any of these instructions are unclear, please ask. And if anything is incorrect, please alert!
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| 17 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 21:06
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Draft will be activated at noon ET on Friday, Aug 28. We will be untimed during the first round, but please do not take undue advantage of this. After that first round, we'll use a 4 hour clock - although that will be shortened if it is abused.
You should already be able to set queues, if you wish.
Please ensure that your notification settings are properly set to keep you updated as the draft emerges.
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| 18 | Toral
ID: 9541311
Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 11:32
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1. May we presume that the pestilent extend-the-one RB rule idea to the whole season has been abandoned, no one hsving spoken in its favour?
2. Looking at MFL, the Taxi Squad doesn't appear to have been set up yet. How big will it be>
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| 20 | SwinganaMiss
ID: 27546716
Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 17:55
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All...I will make a pick later on tonight---I'm really swamped today. Sorry!
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| 21 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 21:30
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[18] Yes, with the Covid taxi squad, there is no need to relax the flex rule for non-bye weeks.
Proposed Covid taxi squad rule is here: http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=foot&thread=5606#1598379569
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| 22 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 21:51
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The clock will be set at 4 hours per pick, with a pause from midnight to 8am ET. The clock will be turned on at the end of the first round.
In each of the past several years, the RIFC draft has taken 7-10 days. At that pace, we should be finished by Labor Day (Sept. 7) or earlier. Assume that we'll average three rounds per day. Early rounds tend to be a bit slower than the later rounds.
Starting three years ago, I implemented some additional time limits to attempt to coax habitually slow drafters into a better flow. I think it helped. Here is the framework:
We establish a point system. If you timeout (i.e., you don’t make your pick before your allotted time expires), you accumulate 2 points.
If you exceed three hours of clock time but don’t timeout (the clock will initially be set at 4 hours), you accumulate 1 point.
Points will only be assigned after the first round, which is generally an untimed round anyway.
If you accumulate 2 points in total (either one timeout or two close calls), your clock time is reduced to 3 hours per pick for the remainder of the draft. That means your next timeout would be at 3 hours.
If you accumulate 4 points in total, your clock is shortened to two hours. At 6 points, your clock is shortened to one hour. That’s the ultimate limit.
Commissioners will need to monitor this, and will have the discretion to defer penalties if they believe the draft is moving OK and the time delays haven’t been too aggravating (or if the offending drafter has a good story.) Commissioners will also need to enforce the shorter clocks, since the system won’t be able to handle different time limits for each manager.
Hopefully, by adding some incentives to avoid multiple lengthy delays, the penalties won’t have to be enforced. (I did have to enforce a few times in recent years. I also had to shorten the general clock to 3 hours last year.)
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| 23 | Philly Busters
ID: 311122313
Tue, Sep 01, 2020, 13:01
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Looks like I'm the only one using queues. Weak. Let's pick up the pace people. It's not that hard.
6.05 75 Philly Busters Cooks, Brandin HOU WR Mon Aug 31 8:14:56 p.m. ET 2020 - [Pick made from Pre-Draft List]
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6.06 76 Guru Schobert, Joe JAC LB Mon Aug 31 9:13:10 p.m. ET 2020 58 minutes
6.07 77 Jaydog Gallup, Michael DAL WR Mon Aug 31 9:42:19 p.m. ET 2020 29 minutes
6.08 78 SwinganaMiss Martinez, Blake NYG LB (Q) Mon Aug 31 10:39:30 p.m. ET 2020 57 minutes
6.09 79 Crabby Bills Singletary, Devin BUF RB Tue Sep 1 9:06:26 a.m. ET 2020 10 hours
6.10 80 Demaryius Targaryen White, Devin TBB LB Tue Sep 1 11:02:10 a.m. ET 2020 1 hour
6.11 81 Da Bomb Boyd, Tyler CIN WR Tue Sep 1 11:16:54 a.m. ET 2020 14 minutes
6.12 82 Doug Waiting For The Next Pick
Timer expires in about 2 hours, 17 minutes -
6.13 83 Valkyrie -
6.14 84 Loki -
7.01 85 Loki -
7.02 86 Valkyrie -
7.03 87 Doug -
7.04 88 Da Bomb -
7.05 89 Demaryius Targaryen -
7.06 90 Crabby Bills -
7.07 91 SwinganaMiss -
7.08 92 Jaydog -
7.09 93 Guru -
7.10 94 Philly Busters Pre-Draft Selection Made (Edit) -
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| 24 | loki
ID: 36753115
Sun, Sep 06, 2020, 15:40
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Guru-How do I send my misses pick to you?
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| 25 | Guru
ID: 23842614
Sun, Sep 06, 2020, 15:42
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by email
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| 26 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 12:23
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After a choppy draft with too much stalling out, we've finally found a sprinter's pace, and it looks like we should finish up today after all.
Please provide your remaining rationales as soon as you can.
We'll have a post-draft blind-bidding waivers that clears at 7pm Wednesday, consistent with our usual weekly schedule. You should be able to submit claims by Tuesday morning. Free F?A pickups will begin at 10pm Wednesday.
If you have any players eligible for the IR or for the Covid taxi squad, you should be able to make those assignments now.
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| 27 | loki
ID: 12820722
Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 23:20
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24.14 sent by email to Guru.
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| 29 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Sep 08, 2020, 09:39
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Hey Demaryius Targaryen- just checking if you received my e-mail?
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