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Posted by: Judy
- [226311314] Sun, Jul 13, 2025, 15:31

The thread is officially open.
We will use this for most of our preseason discussions, including posting of keepers and any draft offers that anybody wants to put forth, etc…
1 Judy
      ID: 76192221
      Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 22:19
Hi folks,

we do need a new manager for 2025. If you are interested, please shoot me an email.

It’s an RG league with 24 players. It’s a keeper league— you get to keep a maximum of six but one must be an IDP if you choose to keep six.

Keepers are slotted into the draft depending on where they were drafted moving up a little bit each year until eventually sometimes you end up with five players at the number one, which means you don’t draft until round 6! Rarely does anyone do this so that means there are a lot of good players available if you’re willing to sacrifice your early pics.

As a result there is a lot of roster turnoverover as people try to figure out how to keep/get good players and beat the draft.

It’s a fun league and we could use a new manager who does have some experience. We use the MFL website.

Thanks.
2Judy
      ID: 426473014
      Wed, Jul 30, 2025, 15:47
Welcome to Bean!
3Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 05, 2025, 22:19
Back in 2019-2020, there was extensive discussion regarding the legality of trading away picks that would otherwise be used to secure a keeper. You can read through those threads for more details.

For example, if I own pick 1.01 and I want to keep a player that commands a first round pick, can I trade pick 1.01 for a later pick in round 1 and still keep that player?

In post 41 of the 2020 league thread, I proposed the following rule:

When a team forfeits a pick in a given round to keep a player, that forfeited pick must be the team’s regular slotted pick for that round. If a team has traded away that slotted pick, then the next available earlier pick must be forfeited. (A regular slotted pick is defined as the pick that a team would own if no picks had been traded.)

I don't see any evidence that a vote was ever held for that rule, and the rule does not explicitly appear in our league rules.

Did we ever pass a related rule? Do we have an unwritten understanding about this type of pick swap?

4SwinganaMiss
      ID: 13738521
      Tue, Aug 05, 2025, 22:38
Yes, your proposed rule passed a vote in 2020.
5Jaydog
      ID: 3676810
      Fri, Aug 08, 2025, 11:06
Does anyone have the keeper spreadsheet with pick sacrifice info?
6Judy
      ID: 317141013
      Sun, Aug 10, 2025, 14:14
I think swing did it. Sent an email — in latest owner email, a few minutes ago.
7Judy
      ID: 477181013
      Sun, Aug 10, 2025, 14:18
1. Winner of Toilet Bowl

2-6 Non-playoff teams sorted by reverse of the previous regular season's points

7-13 Playoff teams sorted by the reverse of the previous season's playoff seeding

14 Winner of the previous season's playoff



1. Ford Standard toilet bowl winner

2. Vikings 1579.68

3. Oaktown Raiders 1659.30

4. Ghostwood 1693.70

5. Clayton Comets 1717.24

6. Snoop Dougg 1731.42

7. SwinganaMiss seed 8

8. Diamond State Dynasty seed 7

9. IAC's Keepers seed 6

10. RotoGuru Klingons seed 5

11. Luxury Tax seed 4

12. Art of Monk seed 3

13. Island Bombers seed 1

14. TD Dragon playoff winner
8Bean
      ID: 377541014
      Sun, Aug 10, 2025, 15:54
My team is IAC at #9, right?
9Judy
      ID: 53751020
      Sun, Aug 10, 2025, 21:05
Yes.

Tom will be team six.

I think I have that right! 😬
10Judy
      ID: 557121020
      Sun, Aug 10, 2025, 21:12
New team names for draft:


1. Ford Standard toilet bowl winner

2. Vikings 1579.68

3. Oaktown Raiders 1659.30

4. Ghostwood 1693.70

5. Clayton Comets 1717.24

6. Snoop Dougg 1731.42

7. SwinganaMiss seed 8

8. Diamond State Dynasty seed 7

9. Bean cline seed 6

10. RotoGuru Klingons seed 5

11. Luxury Tax seed 4

12. Tom Bobo seed 3

13. Island Bombers seed 1

14. TD Dragon playoff winner
11Jaydog
      ID: 1761210
      Tue, Aug 12, 2025, 11:06
Starting to put together my keepers and have some flexibility with my final few. If anyone is interested in trading for any of the following, let me know. Would only be looking for modest pick upgrades.

Caleb Williams (2)
Terry McLaurin (4)
Brian Robinson Jr. (5)
Josh Hines-Allen (9)
Derwin James (9)

12Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 12, 2025, 14:53
Tentative keepers for RotoGuru Klingons:

Josh Jacobs, RB, 1
Jayden Daniels, QB, 5
Khalil Shakir, WR, 9
Baker Mayfield, QB, 11
Rashod Bateman, WR, 24
Jordyn Brooks, LB, 24
13 Judy
      ID: 37411216
      Tue, Aug 12, 2025, 17:41
Don’t forget to also list your draft slot!
Also list your team name.

When you post your keeps and any other players you might offer in a trade please use this format:

Position, player name, player NFL team, 2025 draft slot

The only list that is final will be the last one you post on the forum. (So you can change it as circumstances change such as trades, injuries, etc.)

Remember if you keep six /6/VI keepers, one must be an IDP. If you keep less that does not apply.

You Also must post your keepers on the MFL site.
14Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 13, 2025, 10:22
tentative keepers for RotoGuru Klingons:
(using requested format)

RB, Josh Jacobs, GB, 1.10
QB, Jayden Daniels, Was, 5.10
WR, Khalil Shakir, Buf, 9.10
QB, Baker Mayfield, TB, 11.10
final two picks:
WR, Rashod Bateman, Bal, 24
LB, Jordyn Brooks, Mia, 24
15Judy
      ID: 127461310
      Wed, Aug 13, 2025, 11:46
Possible keepers:
Ghostwood

QB, Love, GB. 5.04
RB, Kamara, NO. 2.04
WR, Jefferson, MIN, 1.04
TE, Bowers, LVR, 4.04

LB, Sherwood, NYJ, 24

Available: not sure what I am doing with these guys.
WR, D. Smith, PHL, 1.04. Would become 3.04 for me
WR, Worthy, KC, 5.04
16Bean
      ID: 67231311
      Wed, Aug 13, 2025, 12:23
WR, Marvin Harrison, AZ, 1.01
RB, Breece Hall, NYJ, 1
TE, Trey McBride, AZ, 4.01
WR, Jordan Addison, MIN, 7.01
CB, Keisean Nixon, GB, 16.01
QB, Bryce Young, CAR, 24
17Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 13, 2025, 15:02
Bean - your picks are actually x.09 this year (9th pick in each round)

So 1.09, 4.09, etc.

Last year (2024 draft), it was 1.01, 4.01, etc., when that team had the first pick in each round.
18 Jeremy
      ID: 407371314
      Wed, Aug 13, 2025, 15:37
Okay here are my keepers for this year. Please double check as well.

Malik Nabers 2.05
TJ Hockenson 9.05
M. Garrett 10.05
b. burns 13.05
C. Barton 23.05
J. Jennings 22.05
19Bean
      ID: 377531410
      Thu, Aug 14, 2025, 11:53
<17> OK, hopefully I have the right format now. Didn't really know how we like to display the 1s and 24s, hopefully someone can make sense out of this:

WR, Marvin Harrison, AZ, 1.09
RB, Breece Hall, NYJ, 1
TE, Trey McBride, AZ, 4.09
WR, Jordan Addison, MIN, 7.09
CB, Keisean Nixon, GB, 16.09
QB, Bryce Young, CAR, 24

If I understand correctly, I also lose my 2.09 and 24.09 with these keepers. As an aside, the list of keeper eligible players also showed Jalen McMillan as an eligible keeper, though he was picked up by IAC during the playoffs (12 DEC). Is there an exception rule for 2024 Rookies or something, or was it just an oversight? I had considered keeping him, but for now this is my list.
20Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 14, 2025, 11:59
Bean - Good catch on McMillan. He was a FA as of the end of the reg season (week 14), so he cannot be kept.
21Bobo
      ID: 40750158
      Fri, Aug 15, 2025, 09:50
Motor City Grit (Team six) Keepers

QB, Jalen Hurts, PHI 1.12
RB, David Montgomery, DET 3.12
QB, C.J. Stroud, HOU 6.12
WR, Ladd McConkey, LAC 10.12
WR, Ricky Pearsall, SF 21.12
S, Nick Cross, IND 24.12
22SwinganaMiss
      ID: 19715159
      Fri, Aug 15, 2025, 10:15
{19} Oversight. My bad.
Also note that
Ernest Jones should be a 5
Zach Moss should be a 7
23TD
      ID: 297281513
      Fri, Aug 15, 2025, 14:28
TD Dragons tentative keepers

2.14 Thomas Jr., Brian JAC WR 
3.14 St. Brown, Amon-Ra DET WR
7.14 LaPorta, Sam DET TE
8.14 Williams, Kyren LAR RB
11.14 Brown, Chase CIN RB 
24.14 Baun, Zack PHI LB
24TD
      ID: 477231516
      Fri, Aug 15, 2025, 17:23
Repeating some notes that Judy sent in an email

Keepers deadline is Wed Aug 20 11:45PM EDT

You must post keepers in MFL
DRAFT/AUCTION -> SELECT KEEPERS

Draft officially starts Fri Aug 22 2:30PM EDT
25Judy
      ID: 247361519
      Fri, Aug 15, 2025, 20:36
Revised — for now…

WR, Jefferson, MIN, 1.04
RB, Kamara, NO. 2.04
WR, D. Smith, PHL, 3.04
TE, Bowers, LVR, 4.04

LB, Sherwood, NYJ, 24

Available: not sure what I am doing with these guys..
WR, Worthy, KC, 5.04
QB , Love, GB. 5.04
26R-Money
      ID: 107161619
      Sat, Aug 16, 2025, 20:16
Diamond State Dynasty Keepers
WR - Ceedee Lamb 1.08
RB - Jahmyr Gibbs 2.08
WR - Puka Nacua 12.08
RB - Bucky Irving 15.08
RB - Jordan Mason 17.08
LB - Bobby Okereke 24.08

players I think are worth Selling for Draft picks (player, keeper round)
Drake London, 1st
Keon Coleman, 6th
Budda Baker, 13th
Jonnu Smith, 24th
27Judy
      ID: 1273179
      Sun, Aug 17, 2025, 10:03
Oops

Revised — for now…

WR, Jefferson, MIN, 1.04
RB, Kamara, NO. 3.04
TE, Bowers, LVR, 4.04

LB, Sherwood, NYJ, 24

not sure what I am doing with these guys..will keep 2

WR, D. Smith, PHL, 2.04
WR. Worthy, KC, 5.04
QB , Love, GB. 5.04
28ywchiou
      ID: 77281720
      Sun, Aug 17, 2025, 21:28
Island Bombers keeper v.1

1.13 Derrick Henry
2.13 DK Metcalf
4.13 George Kittle
5.13 Roquan Smith
9.13 Courtland Sutton
10.13 Aidan Hutchinson

29 taxman
      ID: 327251818
      Mon, Aug 18, 2025, 19:25
keepers

1.11 Josh Allen QB
2.11 Saquon Barley RB
11.11 Rashee Rice WR
18.11 Tank Bigsby RB
23.11 Sam Darnold QB
24.11 Jack Campbell LB
30Twolves
      ID: 47521914
      Tue, Aug 19, 2025, 15:52
Keepers
Joe Burrow
Jamar Chase
De von Archane
Nico Collin’s
TJ watt
Joe Mixon


31Twolves
      ID: 67521914
      Tue, Aug 19, 2025, 15:52
Keepers
Joe Burrow
Jamar Chase
De von Archane
Nico Collin’s
TJ watt
Joe Mixon


32 SwinganaMiss
      ID: 137471915
      Tue, Aug 19, 2025, 16:47
{30} Twolves, you don't have Achane, Nico, or Mixon.
33Athletics Guy
      ID: 25722200
      Wed, Aug 20, 2025, 01:23
Oaktown Keepers

1.03 Jonathan Taylor RB
2.03 Tyreek Hill WR
4.03 Nico Collins WR
8.03 Kyler Murray QB
14.03 Zach Charbonnet RB
24.03 Germaine Pratt LB
34Judy
      ID: 33754207
      Wed, Aug 20, 2025, 08:54
Swing,

Twolves/vikings entered players into MFL. So he is set there where it matters.!

35Judy
      ID: 35754207
      Wed, Aug 20, 2025, 08:54
Swing,

Twolves/vikings entered players into MFL. So he is set there where it matters.!

36Judy
      ID: 5272208
      Wed, Aug 20, 2025, 09:02
WR, Jefferson, MIN, 1.04
WR, D. Smith, PHL, 2.04
RB, Kamara, NO. 3.04
TE, Bowers, LVR, 4.04
WR. Worthy, KC, 5.04

LB, Sherwood, NYJ, 24
37Guru
      ID: 47392013
      Wed, Aug 20, 2025, 14:39
Twolves keepers posted on MFL:

Burrow, Joe CIN QB
Nix, Bo DEN QB
Tracy, Tyrone NYG RB
Warren, Jaylen PIT RB
Chase, Ja'Marr CIN WR
Watt, T.J. PIT DE
38 Jaydog
      ID: 567112019
      Wed, Aug 20, 2025, 20:11
Ford Standard Keepers

RB, Bijan Robinson, ATL, 1.01
QB, Justin Herbert, LAC, 10.01
S, Brian Branch, DET, 14.01
DE, Will Anderson Jr., HOU, 15.01
S, Antoine Winfield, TB, 23.01
QB, JJ McCarthy, MIN, 24.01
39Twolves
      ID: 397442020
      Wed, Aug 20, 2025, 21:44
My keepers and draft position. Burrow, chase are1 and 2. The watt is 3. Jaylon Warren drafted last year remains round 6.
Bo nix also drafted last year remains at 16 and Tyrone Tracy drafted last year Remains at 19.

40Doug
      ID: 47720210
      Thu, Aug 21, 2025, 01:21
RB Cook (6), Achane (6 becomes 5), Mitchell (24)
WR Higgins (3), JSN (8)
LB Henley (24 becomes 23)
41SwinganaMiss
      ID: 1749216
      Thu, Aug 21, 2025, 07:49
1.07 CMC, RB
2.07 Lamar, QB
3.07 AJB, WR
4.07 K Walker,RB
10.07 Jameson Williams,WR
24.07 Terrell Bernard,LB
42Judy
      ID: 59713218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2025, 09:13
From doug

RB Cook (6), Achane (6 becomes 5), Mitchell (24)
WR Higgins (3), JSN (8)
LB Henley (24 becomes 23)
43Jaydog
      ID: 247302110
      Thu, Aug 21, 2025, 11:30
It's finally time... I'm officially retiring my inherited team name of "Ford Standard". Moving forward, my team name will be a quote from Josh Allen's MVP speech... Be Good Do Good Go Bills!

Really rolls off the tongue :)
44TD
      ID: 417182112
      Thu, Aug 21, 2025, 13:18
Keeper slots have been entered in MFL. Please check for accuracy.

Draft starts Friday August 22, 2:30PM EDT
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