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0 Subject: CBS Keeper league Draft Day talk.

Posted by: kev
- [36925310] Mon, Sep 03, 14:17

Alright, draft starts I think in a couple hours.

I will be there.
1PSCommish
      ID: 87352923
      Mon, Sep 03, 16:52
I'm in. Also, D Law will be there, he stopped by the draft room earlier... so it looks like all but one, based on other thread!

If we need another, I got my buddy on the back burner.
2kev
      ID: 36925310
      Mon, Sep 03, 20:39
I cant get into the draft.

I had Dayne and Wycheck qued, and thats it, so hopefully i can get in.
3tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Tue, Sep 04, 08:05
HUGE problem:

mets is out of the league! he e-mailed me, saying he was'nt happy with his auto draft, and he is out of the league. his team sucks big time.

what are we gonna do???
4White Tiger
      ID: 17752917
      Tue, Sep 04, 10:05
That's selfish of him. He KNEW when the draft was, he ASKED to be in this league, HE screwed up. He should try to do the best he can. In my other league (Political Guru League) I missed the damn draft and forgot to predraft and got the SHI**IEST team (Mike Anderson in Rd 2! A KICKER in Rd 3!) But I'm still trying .... what a bun if this is true.
5White Tiger
      ID: 17752917
      Tue, Sep 04, 10:06
bum not bun ....well i guess they're both pretty low ...;)
6THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Tue, Sep 04, 10:10
We probablly should have stopped the draft after his secong pick. I don't blame him but he should take it like a man. How did he get the time screwed up? Maybe we could each give him a player or something.
7THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Tue, Sep 04, 10:36
So what are we going to do? I don't want to bag the season. I have spent way too much time on this league to give it up. I am willing to give up a player or 2. Maybe we could have less keepers this year or something. I agree with White Tiger this is extremely weak of Mets to be backing out. Any other suggestions?
8PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Tue, Sep 04, 12:18
What the f-? It's not as if we're playing for money here! He knew when the draft was.... The CBS "Bot" fill each roster position before picking seconds, it's not really a secret!

I've played with a bad (Auto Drafted) team and it does suck, but I took it like a man as there wasn't anyone else to blame.... and I didn't even "know" any of those guys! Ended up 6 and 10. I took some pride in that result.

Not many good options here. A re-draft would suck! And I don't like the idea of giving him players to get him to stay, because bailing after the draft is not cool. Now, obviously I don't mets personally, so this reaction may be harsh to anyone who does... I apologize for that!

Is mets' team = "jetsin01"? It was kinda hard to tell last night?
9THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Tue, Sep 04, 12:34
I thought it was g dogg, Long Beach Rapid Dogs. Not sure though. The team is bad but not horrible. Garcia, Barber, Pitman not great but not bad(once he is back from suspension), Morris will split time with Henry, but does have a reduced role, Burce, Galloway who knows what he will do, Connell could put up good #'s, he is a number 3 for now but could become the 2. He needs a backup RB and possibly another WR. He could get this in the draft or trade a backup qb Bledsoe and Brunnel.

We need to make a decision and finish the draft.
10PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Tue, Sep 04, 12:35
I may have a way salvage this thing... I'm talking to my friend Brian. He has an interesting solution and one I not thrilled about, but this is a less than "thrilling" situation...

Here's the idea, we each "protect" 4 or 5 guys and the team would get an "expansion draft" selection of 3 picks. If one of your guys gets selected, you can select one of his unprotected players. And we carry on the draft...
11THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Tue, Sep 04, 12:47
Not a bad option, I am assuming his team would have to do the samething. Once a player is taken from your team you get to pick from the unprotected players, do you get to protect the new player or protect more players. What order do you get to pick from the unprotected players. Tduncan any more info?
12PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Tue, Sep 04, 13:42
Yeah, his team (and by "his" I'm hoping we'll agree it's Brian - not mets) would protect 4 to 5. Any expansion draft picks would be protected. And only one player per team... so no one feels too much pain.

This is kinda like real life when the Browns came back around. If I recall correctly...
13tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Tue, Sep 04, 14:07
so what we will do with the players on mets team?

this is a big problem, if we had moree time, we might be able to pull this off, but it does'nt looks good right now.

I'm much less flexable on time right now then I was before september.
14PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Tue, Sep 04, 14:48
tdunc, Brian would keep the existing team. We'd all have to declare our 4 "Untouchables". If he selected one of our unprotected players, we select one of his unprotected players.

He picks 3 players and loses 3 players. Draft continues. I'd imagine we'd want to restart Round 13.
15PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Tue, Sep 04, 14:53
I have an idea that would make this easy too. We all would go to Transactions and "Start" our 4 untouchables and "bench" those left unprotected.

Brian could then look at who's benched, do his "shopping" and offer a "trade" to those he wants. Each manager would counter the trade with the player he wants off of Brian team.

Boom! Rosters are all set and we're good to go.

We need to wrap up this draft soon. I'll be bumming if I missed the rest. I'm leaving Friday morning for vacation.
16THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Tue, Sep 04, 14:56
Let's do it but he has to list his untouchables first. Or we need to find another owner who would take this team with this format, but we need to finish the draft as well. Doesn't Tduncan have 4 pretty good RB and who has the best WR? They are most at risk but we need to finish the draft.
17PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Tue, Sep 04, 15:00
is it jetsin01 or Rabid Doggs? I can tell you his keeps as soon as I know.
18THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Tue, Sep 04, 15:09
I think it was Rabid doggs but we better get in from Tduncan. I think we should have the option of picking from his team or the FA list. I feel I am somewhat at a disadvantage since I need to protect 2 qb which only leave anohter 2 or 3 protected. We need some decisions some.
19PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Tue, Sep 04, 15:49
Monk - I'm not gonna tell you NOT to protect Favre, but keep in mind, he'll have Manning and McNair already. (I just checked the league site and "mets" is the owner of jetsin01 - tdunc, please confirm this).

With Watters & Alstott in the backfield and Carter/McCardell at WR, my bet is he'll be looking there. I'd guess 2 RB's and 1 WR or vice versa, at the other positions - the team is pretty solid.

And it should only affect 2 of you as I think he's already eyeballing my guys! :-) Between Wheatley, Hearst, and Moulds I can only protect 1... probly Moulds here as my other #2 WR is Kevin Johnson of CLE.
20kev
      ID: 36925310
      Tue, Sep 04, 16:01
Can we get rid of a dead owner? Im sure there are non flipping babies that could take over the team.

Im not "unprotecting" my team. I showed up, responded, and am not gonna let a whiner come in and say Boo Hoo, I cant tell time.
21THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Tue, Sep 04, 16:03
You are right I was thinking it was the Rabid dogs. You are right correct you need protect Moulds but you will lose hearst. I protect warner, davis, owens, and then who Warrick or E. Smith. I have Bikacabutica and Allen to replace smith or I have Willie Jackson and M. Robinson to replace Warrick. I feel I need to apologize to G Dogg he is taking it like a man and playing. Tduncan, White Tiger, Strike ONe, where are you guys?
22White Tiger
      ID: 17752917
      Tue, Sep 04, 16:18
Sorry guys, I don't think letting him pick any of our players is cool, can we not give his team to someone else? This guy is a complete jackass in my opinion, his team isn't nearly half as bad as mine in the political league and I'm doing everything possible to try and fix my team. With trades, the free agent wire and some smart moves he could still possibly make the playoffs. The season is long. Sleepers pop up, back ups become starters...for him to give up and take his ball and go home because he doesn't have the players he wants shows you what this guy is really about. I don't want to give him any of my players just so he'll stay and play with us. Can't we just open up another league ...have the commish fill the teams with the players we already have ...and just give his team to a new owner? I dunno but this truly blows heavy chunks.
23kev
      ID: 36925310
      Tue, Sep 04, 16:21
I am in full agreement.

Lets replace him.

Email CBS- there has to be a way to replace dead owners.

Whatta loser.
24PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Tue, Sep 04, 16:42
OK. Keep in mind that we're not doing the "expansion draft" for mets... We'd be doing it for Brian, who'd be coming in and being a responsible, reliable owner. Since it's a keeper league, you can understand why anyone would be less than thrilled about inheriting that junk. Maybe he would take over without this re-draft, but I'm in favor of of this. Those of us with more than 4 players to protect should be OK even after losing a guy....

Remember - NOT for mets! He's done. Gone. Asta la vista!
25Strike One
      ID: 356372421
      Tue, Sep 04, 17:31
What a loser. You guys figure it out, i'm not going to waste my time on this. As long as you don't take away my players i'm cool with it.
26THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Tue, Sep 04, 17:37
If we can't get anybody to take over his team and nobody wants to give up players. The league is dead. We can't play a 12 team league with only 11 teams. We need to do something and quick. Anybody out there know somebody that would be willing to take over this team. Should we see if a fellow gurupie is interested?
27White Tiger
      ID: 17752917
      Tue, Sep 04, 17:47
I would have NO PROBLEMS in having an "expansion draft" for a new RELIABLE owner, because it wouldn't be fair to him to have to pay for that bozo's mistakes ... I would definately be up for that if we got a solid new owner....but no way if it's for that goon who would probably only play another week or two and then drop out mid-season again .... Mets has no honour I don't want to play in a league with that guy.
28tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Tue, Sep 04, 22:36
I can make multi-owned teams.

commish whats your friend's e-mail?
29tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Tue, Sep 04, 22:38
I don't know how or why, but some of you started signing free agents. I don't know if it was very smart, considering the draft is not over yet.
30tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Tue, Sep 04, 23:02
this is unbelievable. mets just e-mailed me, saying he is staying in the league. now our only problem is the nice people who signed FA before the draft was over.
31the art of monk
      ID: 127392513
      Tue, Sep 04, 23:24
I say screw mets if he is already wishy washy, he will bail down the road or quit when he starts losing. The FA pickups are weak, I only have a couple complaints are two. What is up with putting players on the DL? I don't really think we need a DL we have more than enough players for each position. Once again I say get rid of mets. He emails you but doesn't show up here at all. Did he give any reason for the departure besides his team sucks and what were his reasons for returning?
32kev
      ID: 36925310
      Wed, Sep 05, 00:09
More importantly, what is happening with the mess up from yesterday?

That is the only reason I picked up Deuce.

I wanted Deuce and Stokes- We thought Stokes went to Klaws, so I was gonna go Stokley and Deuce, but it screwed up.

I think we have to take the picks back to the Klaws first messed up one. Cuz I wanted Deuce and Stokes/Stokley, not Stokes and Stokley.
33mr g
      ID: 15311150
      Wed, Sep 05, 01:20
kev and td i'm said u 2 did not let the g in, what u waited to kick these guys azz all a lone.
34tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Wed, Sep 05, 06:32
sorry about that g, you know that if you have only asked you would have got your spot no questions asked.
35PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Wed, Sep 05, 08:15
No way mets!

As for the Free Agents, if we can "back up" to the point the draft messed up, cool. If not the free agents should be dropped.

This is getting fugly! :-)
36Diamond Dawgs
      ID: 46445814
      Wed, Sep 05, 08:51
I agree mets out!!

Drop the damn free agent pick ups.

Lets get a new owner, hell my 18 yr old soon would be interested if nothing else.
37tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Wed, Sep 05, 08:55
about the FA thing: the only option I can think of is just declare the draft is over, and let everybody sign there last 3 or 4 players.

any other suggestion?
38PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Wed, Sep 05, 09:07
Dropping players is easy, just go to transactions and click "Drop".

If we can't restart the draft, I think the FA pickups should go in order.

tdunc has some interesting news on mets...
39tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Wed, Sep 05, 09:22
he is a copy of 1 of my e-mailes I send pscommish, this should clear the whole mets saga:

I must disagree with you on this one chris. mets was probably a little angry

with his horroble auto draft, and he e-mailed me without thinking. few hours

later he allready e-mailed me again and appologized. the fact is, he was one

of the most active players in the league before the last "insident", and I
can understand that something poped up for him on draft day. everybody
deserves a second chanse my frined, and I'm really sorry that we are
"yoyoing" your friend like that, but like you said, this is a soap opera,
and the show must go on...

about the FA thing, I'm open to suggestions, because I don't know what to
do.
40THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Wed, Sep 05, 10:36
FA pickups we have several options. Maybe we can have everybody drop their FA and then have it be open to everybody at the same time maybe 7:00 est tonight. I am confused are we letting METS back in? YEs he was active before the draft, but he should have ranked his players better or queue some players. I had enough players queued for 4rds. just in case something came up or I was late. I am willing to let the comissioner make the decision about both FA pickups and METS.
Once again what is the deal with the IR? I think we need a decision posted by this afternoon so we can finish the draft or do FA pickups
41PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Wed, Sep 05, 11:08
I'm backing off the mets-bashing too. Posting that info earlier would have squashed this whole snowballing "controversy"...

I'd really like to continue the draft. A Free Agent free-for-all doesn't sound like much fun!
42tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Wed, Sep 05, 11:14
I don't know if we can continue the draft, remember we stoped it for a reason, and the damn cbs support didn't e-mailed me back.

I think the 1st step should be that all the players who signed FA will release them, and we will take it from there.
43THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Wed, Sep 05, 11:18
Have we heard from G Dogg? I was more worried about his team. I would also prefer to finsish the draft but getting everybody together might be a mess with such short notice. The players that I want are still on the board so I don't have a problem. I wanted a couple of FA but no big deal.
44THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Wed, Sep 05, 11:26
I just realized a huge problem with the FA pickup thing. How do we know what rd they were taken? Very important for our calculus rule? We need to finish the draft or have a FA pickup time in the draft order. IF someone can't be there at a certain time send the commish your picks or preferences. I would not have a problem with a group making the picks for the last four rds. I think we don't need a DL we have more than enough roster spots. Mets could put lewis on the DL all season and only give up a 4th rd for next year with no penalty except using his 7 rd pick. We were giving him his props for this pick and it wasn't even him that made the pick.
45PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Wed, Sep 05, 12:16
Funny how some of the Auto Picks look like good moves.

Calculus draft fine points - As for the Free Agents and what they "Cost" next, I've had discussion with tdunc and they'll be "valued" with a 15. Meaning to keep them next year, you'd lose a 12th.

Also, next year's draft will only be 12 rounds, so this year's 16th rounders will "cost" a 12th next year. If you don't have a certain round pick based on trades or multiple keepers, you'd have to give up one pick higher. ie you have no 12th round pick in next year's draft, but want to keep a 2001 15th round pick... you'd have to give up your 11th to protect him.
46PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Wed, Sep 05, 12:19
... of course this was assuming we completed a 16 round draft this year. If we don't continue the draft, the "value" given to all Free Agent pick-up will be 13.
47PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Wed, Sep 05, 12:21
If we continue the draft in an organized fashion, even if not thru CBS, I'll track the values for rounds 13-16.
48THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Wed, Sep 05, 12:24
I understand PSCommish, thanks for the explanation, but what IR what was I thinking with the DL.
We need to make some decisions about the draft and Mets. It looks 5 teams have already hit the FA pick up. I'm thinking about hitting it but I will give more time to sort things out. I know in the middle of the week we are all busy and I have another draft tonite.
49THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Wed, Sep 05, 14:58
Now six teams have hit the FA list? I think we need a ruling here Tduncan. Have we heard from G Dogg?
50Strike One
      ID: 356372421
      Wed, Sep 05, 17:46
Ok, this is absolute BS, what happened with the draft?!? I thought it was supposed to be 16 rounds ( i had to leave after 12). So when I looked at my team yesturday, i had 12 players. I thought that someboyd had changed the number of rounds or something. There should have been an e-mail sent out saying the draft had malfunctioned. My team was left without a K and TE so I naturally, tryingto get my team to be vaild i signed free agents.

Tduncan, if you ever want to be a respected commish make a damn decision already because i'm getting fed up. I can't do a redraft now because school has started and my time is extreamly limited. Sorry if i cause any inconvienences, but I was unaware the draft had malfunctioned.
51White Tiger
      ID: 17752917
      Wed, Sep 05, 17:59
Someone decide what's up quick ... Whoever picked up F/A should drop then and we finish the last few rounds....
52tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Wed, Sep 05, 19:48
you heard the man... white tiger is right.
53PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Wed, Sep 05, 20:01
Good to see ya tdunc! I started this long thing before you posted...

Ok. I dropped my Free Agent pick-up.

Here's the dealio - I think tdunc's right and we won't be able to continue the draft. Since we're doing a Free League - don't expect a reply from CBS! Things got screwy right at the end of round 12, beginning of Round 13. In round 13 - Stokes, LaMont Jordan and Jay Fiedler were the only ones selected. At the end of round 12 is when the draft site seemed to crap out. Let's restart round 13 over and drop those guys... Consider them available.

Let's restart the 13th round with kev picking. Everyone drop their picked up Free Agents, so we can see who's really left. (kev - if your pick 13.1 is McAllister - go ahead and keep him!)

I propose we make our selections here on the forum and via e-mail. If you have a pick coming up, send tdunc a short list of 2 to 4 guys you'd want, you'll get the top guy left (Or e-mails someone who can monitor this thread, if we can get an outside body, even better!) . After kev picks McAllister, tdunc should send him his own list, so there will be no worries of anyone using anyone's sleepers. If you guys are too close together, use an in between 3rd party who'll be around to post your picks if you're not here...

It's getting late on Wednesday, I hope I'm not "stepping on any toes" with this, but I've dealt with stuff like this in my previous leagues.

If there's no strong objections... let's roll!
54kev
      ID: 36925310
      Wed, Sep 05, 20:10
I think we should just pick up our extra players

I only took my k and Def..

whatever though- maybe our commish should lay it on the line.
55Diamond Dawgs
      ID: 14372618
      Wed, Sep 05, 20:15
OK I dropped my 3 FA pick ups. I only did it out of spite. Thought there was gonna be a run on them.

Lets please fix this so we can move on.

I am game for any fix.
56PSCommish
      ID: 87352923
      Wed, Sep 05, 20:53
kev - didn't you take Deuce too? Before our draft exploded, he was my next guy. :-P
57PSCommish
      ID: 87352923
      Wed, Sep 05, 20:59
crud, I forgot to add... tdunc, as commish/founder, you have the rights to go in and boot any "undropped" Free Agent pick ups.

Four more rounds may be too much to ask from the entire group, maybe two more rounds then free agents? The more I think about that, the more I like it!

Tdunc, see if there's a way you can activate "Waivers". For most normal live drafts there's a wait period for pick ups. That way ALL teams can enter their pick-ups and it's done on the waiver basis. This prevents the "first one there" from gobbling everyone up! (This "first one there" strategy actually works well if you play a CBS AutoDraft league... especially early drafts!)
58kev
      ID: 36925310
      Wed, Sep 05, 20:59
Klaws last pick in round 12 was messed as well.

If I were to repick the 2 of my picks would be Chiefs and McAllister.

I will drop Cortez if you all want me to.
59tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Wed, Sep 05, 21:14
everyone who picked FA, please drop them ALL. I can't see a way we are gonna be able to complete the draft. I will turn on the waiver system, and we will sign FA by turns.
60PSCommish
      ID: 87352923
      Wed, Sep 05, 21:14
If Cortez was picked after the draft crapped out, I think you'll need too... Don't worry he prolly be there when you pick again! ;-)
61PSCommish
      ID: 87352923
      Wed, Sep 05, 21:40
tdunc, if you get a couple of slow drops, see if you can try to drop someone's player for them! Being Commish has some "perks"... now then, do they outweigh the "pain".... ????
62PSCommish
      ID: 87352923
      Wed, Sep 05, 21:49
Ah, another detail... the waiver wire will default to the reverse order of the first round. This would screw kev since he really has first dibs at this point. Can you set the waiver order? If not we'll need to do at least the next round "by turns" and then the waiver wire will be back to good.

After round 13, I'd strongly recommend letting the waiver wire work it's mojo after we all cue our picks. (Actually round 15 may be hosed too, hmm? Hopefully no one would object if it goes reverse draft order though!)

To "queue" waiver picks, just select to "Pick Up" a Free Agent and it ranks them in the order you do that. It's not like the java ranking where you can move them around, so y'all will need to do a bit of homework before doing this. It sucks if you're on player 26 and you find someone you want at #5.... you'd have to delete all the way up to 5 and redo 'em.
63tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Thu, Sep 06, 06:26
this is a mess...

I can't promise anything, I will just tuen the waivre system on. you can read about it in the help topics.
64tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Thu, Sep 06, 06:58
I looked at the transactions log, and I don't think even half of the FA were released. please do it fast, time is luxury we really don't have right now.
65THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Thu, Sep 06, 09:06
Drop your FA pickups and lets get going.
66THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Thu, Sep 06, 10:28
Tduncan with your commish rights, you should be able to remove their players. Send an email out telling the league when this going to happen and have a draft time. I think we could do it here and if anybody can't make it they can email you list of 6 players to finish the draft. We need to get this done.
67tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Thu, Sep 06, 10:58
allright I realesd all the FA, and the players who released some of their draft picks, well, you got your players back.

I started the waiver process.
68tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Thu, Sep 06, 11:01
this is the help on the waiver wire system form the CBS site. this is very important you will read this, just so you will understand what this is all about:




Overview
In order to provide an equal opportunity for all owners to add players to their roster that are new to the free agent pool, a Waiver Wire process can be implemented. Owners' requests to add players on waivers to their roster are not executed immediately, but are put in a pending status. This allows multiple teams to request the same players. Late Monday night, after standings are updated, Commissioner.COM will generate a Waiver Ranking based on league standings. The team with the worst record will have the highest waiver rank. Late Tuesday night the first Waiver Process of the week will be run, executing the pending requests in Waiver Rank order. When a transaction is made during the Waiver Process, the team's rank is set to last and everyone elses rank moves up one.

Waiver Schedule
Late Monday night, standings will be updated and the initial waiver ranking for the week is determined. Starting Tuesday night, the waiver process will run each night of the week until a game is played. For the majority of weeks, where the first game is Sunday, waivers will run Tuesday night through Saturday night. If there is a Saturday game, waivers will run Tuesday night through Friday night. If there is a Thursday game, waivers will only run Tuesday night and Wednesday night for that week.

Conditions for Waivers
NFL Players are placed on waivers under the following circumstances:

A player is released during a waiver process: A player released during a waiver process is on waivers until the next waiver process. Example: An owner requests Player A on waivers and drops Player B. This request is pended until the waiver process runs. During the waiver process, the owner is awarded Player A, and Player B is released from the roster and placed on waivers until the next waiver process.

A player is released during a free agent acquisition: Requests for players not on waivers are not pended. The player dropped in a free-agent transaction (i.e., non-waiver) is placed on waivers for at least 24 hours. If a waiver process runs prior to 24 hours the player will remain on waivers until the following waivers process. Example: An owner drops a player on Wednesday afternoon in order to pick up a free agent. The player dropped remains on waivers until Thursday night's waiver process.

All Free Agents as of Monday night: When the standings are updated after Monday Night Football, the initial waiver ranking for the week is determined and all free agents are put on waivers for the first day of waiver claims.

Waiver Rank
On Monday night, the initial waiver rank for each team is determined based on standings.The team lowest in the standings receives the highest waiver rank. The criteria for determining the team lowest in the standings varies based on the type of league.

Straight Points
1. Lowest in YTD standings
2. Commissioner Discretion (see Special Note below for Commissioner users)

Head-to-head
1. Worst Won/Lost Record
2. Least Points Scored YTD
3. Most Points Scored Against YTD

During a waiver process, pending transactions are processed in an order determined by each team's waiver rank. The team with the highest waiver rank will get its first requested player. If that team's highest pending transaction can't be executed because another team has the requested player, the transaction gets deleted and the team's next transaction, if one exists, is then executed. When a team gets a requested player, the team's waiver rank is dropped to the end and every other team moves up one and the process is continued. If a team doesn't have any pending transactions because all players requested were taken by other teams, or the owner simply didn't request any players, the team's turn is skipped but the waiver rank is not dropped. If a team has the highest waiver rank after Monday night and doesn't request any players for Tuesday night's waiver process, that team will still have the highest rank for the next process. The waiver rank for all teams at the end of one waiver process will be the starting rank for the next process, excluding the Tuesday night process when the waiver rank is reset based on standings.

Pre-Season
The CBS SportsLine.com Fantasy Football game and Commissioner product both support a pre-season waiver's process. For Fantasy Football game players, the first waiver process will be run the second night after your draft, time permitting, and the initial waiver rank will be based on reverse draft order. For the Commissioner product, once the automated waivers process is activated, waivers will run nightly until the first week of the season.

Making a Waivers Claim
If you want to drop a player and pick up a player off of waivers follow these steps:

Lets say you have a player that you want to drop (player A) and several players that you would like to add (players A and B), depending on their availability when your turn comes up. If player B is not available you would like to pick up player C. In order to accomplish this you would submit two Add/Drop requests:

Drop player A, Add player B, and
Drop player A, Add player C.

Lets say your turn comes up and player B has already been picked up off waivers by another team. A request can not be executed if either the add or drop player is not available. Requests will be skipped until the first valid roster move is found. In this case, your second request would be executed and you would get player C (provided he is not also already picked up off waivers).

The same is true in the reverse. If you dropped player A and added player B, then during your next round of waiver selections it will skip over the second waiver request involving Player A and go down your list to see if you have any other waiver requests.

Note: Free agents are available on a first-come, first-served basis; they can be picked up at any time. If a player is dropped from a roster and he clears the waiver process without being picked up, he then becomes a free agent, and can be picked up at any time.

Special note for users of the Commissioner product: The commissioner of a league can, prior to the waiver process running, over-ride the generated waiver rankings. This is useful for leagues that give special consideration to teams that lost a player due to inter-league trade or injury. [Commissioners, please see the Front Office Adjust, Waivers documentation for more information].





I set the waiver order as same as the draft order, starting with david law's team, because it was his pick when the draft crashed.
69PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Thu, Sep 06, 11:30
Which pick of D Law's??? #143 or #146?
70tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Thu, Sep 06, 11:37
I have absolutly no idea. I know that kev was suppose to pick after him, so you can check it according to this.
71PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Thu, Sep 06, 12:27
OK. Here's how it went...
Rnd.Pick - # Overall - Owner - Player Picked
12.10 - - - 142 - - - White Tiger - Byron Chamberlain
12.11 - - - 143 - - - David Law - Chad Johnson
12.12 - - - 144 - - - kev - Brandon Stokely

13.1 - - - 145 - - - kev - J.J. Stokes
13.2 - - - 146 - - - David Law - LaMont Jordan
13.3 - - - 147 - - - White Tiger - Jay Fiedler
... draft crapped out. It got flakey during pick 13.3.

If we're backing up in the draft to a certain point, then the players chosen after that need to be dropped too. Not just the Free Agent pick-ups.
72Diamond Dawgs
      ID: 46445814
      Thu, Sep 06, 12:31
How did R. Dudley get picked up by jetsin01 already?
73THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Thu, Sep 06, 12:32
I queued my players. When this take affect?
74PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Thu, Sep 06, 12:49
When I queud my players it says waivers go into effect 9/8/01. CBS waivers usually go at 6 a.m. But sometimes they run behind.

As for Dudley - he needs to be dropped too! Please double check all the teams as tdunc's got his hands full here, that's for sure! I did a quick check just now and didn't see any other issues... jetsin01 actually picked Mathis in the 12th round, so that one's not an issue.
75PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Thu, Sep 06, 13:49
OK... I went thru my draft sheet thru Round 12 and compared line-ups. Here's who needs to be dropped...

If we "cancel" Round 13 - wessyde - JJ Stokes, the Klaws - LaMont Jordan.

Other extras - jetsin01 - Rickey Dudley
- Ds Dawg Pound - Joe Nedney

udder dan dat it looks fine.
76kev
      ID: 36925310
      Thu, Sep 06, 14:09
How far back are we going? Because as I have stated, I wanted McAllister...do i drop him>
77PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Thu, Sep 06, 14:18
We haven't gotten an answer from tdunc... if it's just back two picks, you got who you got. if it's back 5 or 6 (and into the end of the 12th) you can re-pick. Just hang onto your guys until he makes it clear.

I'm thinking it'll just be the last 2 picks though - so you'd keep who you have. By the way, you don't have McAllister any more. I just reprinted the Rosters.
78kev not home
      ID: 14859614
      Thu, Sep 06, 15:00
Why dont I have McAllister- he is who I wanted when the draft messed up.

Thats BS
79PSCommish
      ID: 87352923
      Thu, Sep 06, 18:27
kev - we'll have to see. But your team this year (and for years to come) is already looking VERY solid. So hopefully you wouldn't be too bummed, eh?
80Diamond Dawgs
      ID: 46445814
      Thu, Sep 06, 18:34
What are we going to do about filling roster requirements for opening day?
81PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Thu, Sep 06, 21:54
DD, If after the Free Agent blitz on Saturday, you're short on a psoition, you'd just have to drop somebody and pick up what you need.
82PSCommish
      ID: 26724178
      Thu, Sep 06, 22:04
I'm heading to Hawaii for my 5 year anniversary, so you won't see me around these parts for about 10 days. We're stopping in San Fran on the way out. However, you'll still feel my presence when I'm whoopin' some ass the next two Sundays though! ... that is, of course, assuming this league actually DOES launch! :-P

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Mahalo (thanks) and Aloha! Good Luck Guys! Hope this thing works out here...
83White Tiger
      ID: 17752917
      Fri, Sep 07, 00:09
Have fun bud.
84kev
      ID: 36925310
      Fri, Sep 07, 16:22
This could be the worst draft organization ever...


How the hell am I supposed to start a team when I dont have a Def or K, and they are all on waivers?!?!?!?
85THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Fri, Sep 07, 17:50
I would have to agree, but it should be done for tommorrow. At least we got the draft done kind of. The league could have folded, so it could hav been worse.
PSCommish have a great time in the Hawaii, I'll be going there for my anniversay in May.
86White Tiger
      ID: 11334218
      Sat, Sep 08, 10:14
Come on guys, just put my name on the trophy.
87tduncan
      ID: 47616279
      Sat, Sep 08, 11:30
what do you want me to say? I did the best I could, and I think everything is OK now. the waiver process is over now, all the players who were undrafted and unsigned are now FA, and the only waivers will be the players we will release from our teams.
88White Tiger
      ID: 17752917
      Sat, Sep 08, 13:27
It's all good guys, everythings looking good ....good luck everyone.
89kev
      ID: 36925310
      Sat, Sep 08, 13:31
Gary Anderson and Chargers defense...intresting that those were left unclaimed.
90THE art OF monk
      ID: 152472816
      Mon, Sep 10, 17:07
tduncan, I never met any disrespect. You pulled it together and we are off. I hope everyone stays in and doesn't quit.
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