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Subject: 2011 RotoGurupie Keeper 14: Draft Thread
Posted by: TB
- Sherpa [031811922] Sun, Aug 21, 2011, 14:31
Link to League Site
Keepers are set and draft order is correct. The draft clock does not officially start until noon on Thursday, but it is open now and Boikin can pick as soon as he is ready.
Here are our complete scoring rules:
Passing TDs 4 points each
Passing Yards .04 point for every 1
Pass Interceptions Thrown -2 points each
Passing 2 Pointers 1 point each
Rushing TDs 6 points each
Rushing Yards .1 point for every 1
Rushing 2 Pointers 2 points each
Receiving TDs 6 points each
Receiving Yards .1 point for every 1
Receiving 2 Pointers 2 points each
Field Goal Made 0-39 3
Field Goal Made 40-49 4
Field Goal Made 50-99 5
Missed Field Goal 0-29 -1
Missed Field Goal 30-99 0
Extra Points 1 point each
Extra Points Missed -1 point each
Punt Return Yards .1 point for every 1
Kickoff Return Yards .04 point for every 1
Fumbles Lost (to Opponent) -2 points each
Fumble Recoveries (from Opponent) 2 points each
Forced Fumbles 2 points each
Interceptions Caught 3 points each
Passes Defensed 1 point each
Blocked kick (FG, XP, punt) 2
Tackles 1 point each
Assists 0.5 points each
Sack 1 point each (.5 for half sack)
Quarterback Hits 1 point each
Tackles for a Loss 2 points each
Safeties 3 points each
All Other Touchdowns 6 points each (whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Draft Order
1) GoatLocker
2) Beezer
3) Boikin/skeepers
4) TB
5) Legge
6) Doug
7) Athletics Guy
8) MC
9) mjd
10) Da Bomb
11) Challenger
12) Bonka
13) Guru
14) IAC
2011 Keeper Sheet |
| 1 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Aug 21, 2011, 14:36
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And yes, on the sheet I understand Boikin has the 24th round pick now instead of 22nd, but the biggest use of that sheet for me will be remembering next seasons keepers.
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| 2 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sun, Aug 21, 2011, 17:07
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MFL added a new option this year:
If you're in an email draft, but don't want to be overwhelmed with too many emails or text messages, there is a new option on both the For Owners > Franchise Setup > Contact Info page and the For Owners > Franchise Setup > Wireless pages called "When I'm On The Clock For My Draft" which will allow you to only receive emails or text messages when it's your turn to draft, as opposed to when each pick is made.
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| 4 | Challenger
ID: 35781513
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 17:30
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One small problem with the draft, Aaron Rodgers is a 2nd rd keeper for Guru, yet Rodgers is listed as Guru's 1st selection.
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| 5 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 18:24
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It doesn't matter which round Guru's keepers are in. His first 5 rounds are used for 5 players. Most of the multi round clumps were done by ADP off the top of my head when I put them in just because.
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| 6 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 09:02
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I don't want to sound like sour grapes, but is there any way I can replace my Terrell Thomas keeper with someone else? Torn ACL last night, but the draft hasn't really started yet. If not, he'll just be my first drop.
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| 7 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 12:58
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I was actually thinking about that last night when I read the news. Seeing how this draft just started (and you asked before it started) I do not have a problem with it. I just popped home from work. If you could email me who you would rather keep, as soon as I can get back into the site (probably after work today) I will make the change.
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| 8 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 13:05
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Deadline is a deadline. As trivial as it may be, it's not fair to 13 other people. There's always going to be situations that pop up. Players may be injured immediately after being drafted, doesn't mean you get to re pick.
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| 9 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 13:14
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I personally think it's wisest to not put the rules in question.
Alternately, you can maybe do a "blind-vote" because people may prefer not to vocalize their concerns.
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| 10 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 13:44
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Deadline is a deadline. As trivial as it may be, it's not fair to 13 other people. There's always going to be situations that pop up. Players may be injured immediately after being drafted, doesn't mean you get to re pick.
I don't necessarily agree with that, as I think that part of the deadline being Sunday the 21st was tied to having another week of preseason completed...my guy just happened to have the Monday night game. Sure, a guy may get injured immediately after picking him, but I think it's a slightly different circumstance. If the draft had started, i wouldn't be asking about this 9as I stated "since the draft hasn't started yet").
Overall, it doesn't mean that much to me as Thomas is a 24th rounder and only takes my last pick. It's just a pain to skip my 24th pick, wait until waivers clear, drop him, and then pick up someone else. If I can't keep someone else, then I'd just ask you remove him from my team and let me have my 24th round pick back so I don't need to go through the waiver process. If my 24th round pick was opened up, I'd just be the last draft pick since everyone else has their 24th round pick covered.
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| 11 | TB on Evo
ID: 27782314
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 15:08
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While I understand there has to be a deadline and when some other player gets hurt this week and I have to tell that manager he won't get to switch keepers, this happened due to a season ending injury before the draft even started. We can make the exception. Legge, tell me who you want to keep or if you just want him dropped.
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| 12 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 15:43
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Thanks, TB. I'll keep Gary Brackett at 24.
If this is truly an issue for others, I'll just wait out until the 24th round and replace Thomas there. No worries either way.
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| 13 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 597211121
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 18:03
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Wow, who said the Arab Spring wouldn't produce any favorable results? We've transitioned from Mömmar Crüdaffi to The Benevolent Sherpa.
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| 14 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 18:57
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Okay, I made the change and I also went in and did the commish lock-out again now that everything is all set up. It made me unlock it to do something previously, but I'd been meaning to relock it.
Next year I won't make keepers due until after the Monday night games are over. I honestly didn't know how long it would take to load rosters but it is done quickly.
On our draft, do we usually use a clock and if so, how many hours do we use?
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| 15 | Doug
ID: 23731011
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 20:38
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Just realized this is a return yards league. Would have kept Desean had I realized. Makes me sad. I just don't have time for FF like I used to... used to be on top of these things. :(
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| 16 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 21:45
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Yeah Doug. As I mentioned in the other thread, I have no clue why you didn't keep Jackson + your QB, even without the return yards factored in. I figured at best you could draft one of them back while losing the other. Pretty massive goof :D
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| 17 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 22:14
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Doug - I remember you had the same issue a few years back in this league - forgetting about return yards.
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| 18 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 02:00
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Even without return yards he was clearly at the top of the available WR rankings. While I understand the clock hasn't officially started, would be nice to keep this moving along.
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| 19 | Doug
ID: 26723151
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 03:49
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Sorry TB... I thought I submitted my pick earlier tonight...
Bonka... well now you have your answer for Jackson. Without the return yards factored in I figured I could possibly get someone better or worst case get him back. Romo if I had it to do over again I'd still drop.
What really gets me is he's one of my favorite players currently in the league and I love having guys on my roster who I actually enjoy watching play... it was a tough call to let him go but seemed the right one... now just... argh.
Guru... yeah, I'm in too many leagues relative to the amount of time I have for FF anymore. Ideally you do your rankings under the scoring system and so on BEFORE keepers, but this year I wasn't able get to it until TB called me today to let me know that I was on the clock.
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| 20 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 12:16
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So yeah, do we have the clock running, same as RIFC? 7am - 1am, 6 hours per pick? If so, Skeepers only has 45 minutes before he times out.
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| 21 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 12:25
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read the original post: "The draft clock does not officially start until noon on Thursday, but it is open now and Boikin can pick as soon as he is ready."
Nobody will be timing out today.
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| 22 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 12:32
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Yeah, would help to look before I asked. Still answers the question though, haha.
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| 23 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 597211121
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 19:11
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And the vice grip on Peyton Manning is officially broken. Have to say I'm losing more faith in his value each day. Especially when Indy's bringing in experienced backups now. That could kill the Colts' values.
I might have taken Peyton with my 5th round pick if he was still there. I had no option before that, but if I did have a 4th rounder, I doubt I would pull that trigger.
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| 24 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 23:43
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Peyton was my first pick in this league and the only player remaining on my roster from our original draft. I loved having him as my QB. Every season I didn't have to worry about having a back-up QB. Looking at old data, there are only 3 original first round picks still rostered and 9 total players:
Motley Crue - Maurice Jones-Drew (1st)
Guru - Frank Gore (1st)
IAC: Steven Jackson (1st) and Jason Witten (8th)
Athletics Guy: Andre Johnson (3rd) and Tom Brady (4th)
Bonka (Taxman): Calvin Johnson (3rd)
Goatlocker: Drew Brees (4th)
Challenger: Adrian Peterson (2nd)
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| 25 | Challenger
ID: 345562218
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 08:37
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Actually, IAC redrafted Witten last year, but yes, IAC is the only team Witten has been on during the important part....the season.
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| 26 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 597211121
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 12:22
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Reggie Bush gettin' the 4th round love. I had him targeted myself if he made it to me in round 5. He's a talented little dude, but I just don't know if he can last a whole season. My gut says no, but maybe Miami's got a plan to keep him fresh.
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| 27 | TB
ID: 77112512
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:11
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I feel good about him this season. He is going to be the starter and for sure the 3rd down back as well. I don't have a 5th round pick, but felt like this was a good spot for him with all the other RB keepers out there.
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| 28 | TB
ID: 77112512
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:15
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Meant to add that the draft clock is now turned on from 7am - 1am, 6 hours per pick max.
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| 29 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 597211121
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 14:23
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Color is perhaps the most important of grape characteristics, a critical component of table, juice and wine grapes that's also been linked to antioxidant content.
What, are you drinking wine at work, TB?
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| 30 | TB
ID: 77112512
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 14:30
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I like grapes.
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| 31 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 14:45
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Can't say I'm a big fan of my team this year at the moment. Last 2 rounds have been somewhat brutal. I'm almost drafting for next year.
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| 32 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 14:51
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Keep it up... your doing fine! ;)
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| 33 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 14:56
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Only 18 non-keeper picks to go before I can start drafting!
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| 34 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 14:58
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It doesn't help that my team going in to last year wasn't that great after taking over, considering I drafted 3rd. Then I overachieved and ended up drafting late this year. My keepers were just decent, not as strong as a lot of other teams, so starting in a hole + some questionable picks due to lack of clear options.
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| 35 | TB
ID: 77112512
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 15:20
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Most teams are pretty equal on keeper value. I had to pull up an old google.doc to see what you were left with. Not as bad as several other teams I think. 2007-2010 keepers
Eventually I will clean a couple of these files up and put them all together into one file.
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| 36 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 19:23
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Anyone know how to get the site to send you an email when it's your pick?
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| 37 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 19:24
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TB, please take those keeper lists down because all I see is LAURENCE MARONEY. Yeesh!
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| 38 | Challenger
ID: 35781513
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 19:40
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"For Owners"
"Franchise setup"
"Contact info"
scroll down to " On the Clock for my draft"
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| 39 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 450482421
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 19:56
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Tick Tock... less than 1 hour, then Beezer is up.
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| 40 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 450482421
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 19:59
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IF I remember correctly; in previous years, the draft during this 3rd week of the NFL preseason tends to go a little slower, especially while games are on TV. Weird how that happens? ;)
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| 41 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 20:08
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Perfect, Challenger. Thanks.
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| 42 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 20:09
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Beezer - Maroney actually had a couple good years at least...I am looking at my 5th rounder of Lamont Jordan. Yikes.
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| 43 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 597211121
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 20:23
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Beezer, I just sent you a trade offer for your current pick on the league website.
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| 44 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 20:27
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Accepted here and on MFL.
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| 45 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 20:47
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RG14 Historical Document
I went ahead and cleaned it up a bit today. As I find other files in my documents I might clean up or add to it.
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| 46 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 20:58
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Trade Approved:
Mötley Crüe gave up Year 2011 Draft Pick 5.08;Year 2011 Draft Pick 7.08
Beezer's Heinz 57s gave up Year 2011 Draft Pick 5.02;Year 2011 Draft Pick 9.02
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| 47 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 21:57
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I was starting to set up a queue, and noticed that some players were not appearing in the list of players available to draft. It turned out they were being listed as "locked" - presumably dropped within the past day - or maybe even awaiting a waiver period. Not sure why.
I solved it by logging in as commish and changing the setting that locks dropped players. We'll need to remember to reset that later on.
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| 48 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 22:24
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Sorry about the delay all.
Thought I had set queues, but guess I got confused with RIFC AAA #2.
Won't happen again.
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| 49 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 22:46
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Guru, any chance those players that weren't showing up might have been keepers? I am now noticing keepers are available in my draft list and they weren't there before. This isn't good.
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| 50 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 22:48
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lol...I am logged into my AAA draft. Act like my previous post isn't there.
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| 51 | Challenger
ID: 35781513
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 10:41
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IAC, You're off my Xmas card list with your last selection. I was hoping for one more round on Tolbert
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| 52 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 11:34
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RE 51: I'm picking last EVERY round! Doing the best I can here.
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| 53 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 12:01
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I just resequenced the columns in the draft grid format. Easier to follow.
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| 54 | Challenger
ID: 35781513
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 12:04
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Re 52: Price you pay when you are a winner!!
I'm having a hard time with remembering MC drafts before me.
And thanks Guru and welcome to the draft
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| 55 | TB
ID: 77112512
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 12:54
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My top five players went with the previous 8 picks, so I went with a homer pick. 10 years ago I would have been able to draft this kid in the last round. 2 years ago I would have been able to get him in the last round except in a league with gurupies. Today, my coworkers, who are terrible at all things fantasy sports related, are walking in talking to me about him as a "sleeper" pick. Is sleeper pick even a real term anymore with the amount of info available on the net?
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| 56 | Athletics Guy
ID: 05231519
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 14:25
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My "sleeper" was gone before I even got my first pick in!
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| 57 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 15:15
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Guess I waited too long on Roberts. Doh.
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| 58 | Challenger
ID: 35781513
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 15:46
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Stephen Tulloch for mjd is listed on the draft as a 13th rd pick, he's actually a 12th rd keeper and should moved at or above the 12th, not below.
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| 59 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 15:55
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RE 58: It was in another thread... since he had 3x12th round keepers, it would go 11-12-13. I think.
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| 60 | Challenger
ID: 35781513
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 16:39
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Ok, thanks
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| 61 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 597211121
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 07:32
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Taking a little trip today, but I'll be online some when I get there. I'm queued up for the next 2 picks and shouldn't hold things up much after that. In case I do wind up on the clock, it shouldn't take me too long to pick.
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| 62 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 12:15
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I really wish my IDPs weren't all on week 7 byes, otherwise I would have taken Cole 1 or 2 picks ago. IAC ends up lucking out on that one. Almost had Suggs instead of DJ Williams too. Probably should have just taken Cole anyways and dealed with the terrible bye situation later.
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| 63 | Challenger
ID: 35781513
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 12:31
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Yep, same problem here IDP byes
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| 64 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 12:36
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I almost posted last night asking if anyone wanted DeAngelo Hall for a late round draft pick. Both my DB have week 5 byes and with the way the line-ups are now, I don't want any IDP position to have the same bye week and be forced to carry more than 8, maybe 9, IDP at any given time.
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| 66 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 14:33
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The way they jammed up these bye weeks is a pain.
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| 67 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 16:51
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Is there a way to see a grid of team rosters by position?
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| 68 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 17:49
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Not a grid, but you can click rosters under league and it has them by position.
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| 69 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 01:37
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Ah I found what I wanted. Reports -> Franchise -> Rosters -> Grid
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| 70 | Athletics Guy
ID: 05231519
Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 03:10
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I apologize for the draft holdup. I had a lot of stuff going on today.
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| 71 | Bonka
ID: 23722816
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 00:02
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So my power has been out most of today, I'm actually drafting from somewhere else. Apparently I may not have power til the 31st, which is ridiculous. I shouldn't time out on my picks, but they may not be as quick as normal.
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| 72 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 12:20
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You couldn't leave Hardesty for me at the end of this round? How rude.
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| 73 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 12:35
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Gotta run out-back by 1:30.
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| 74 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 13:34
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So I decided to say screw it and load up on week 7 IDP byes. Value too good to pass on.
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| 75 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 14:08
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Re:23
Manning activated off PUP today. I've struggled at QB the past couple of years and I jumped at the opportunity to get a franchise one. If he misses a couple games this year that's fine, as this is a keeper league and can hold him for a while.
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| 76 | TB
ID: 77112512
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 15:48
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I had a large queue for the next couple rounds, but the draft moved quickly today and tore it up. We got down to some players I didn't want to take until later. I am heading out to a live draft now and will need to get caught up before making my next pick. I should be home by 7 pm if the draft makes it back to me by then.
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| 77 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 21:49
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I thought Von Miller was mine. Kind of mad.
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| 78 | MC from road
ID: 297312721
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 07:11
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Next year, I say we let Bonka pick 24 times in a row before anyone else picks.
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| 79 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Sustainer
ID: 01361448
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 14:18
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I say we let him pick the final 24 picks in the draft so that he can give a play-by-play on every pick! ;)
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| 80 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 597211121
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 20:29
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TB and friends--don't forget to turn off free agency and set up a claim period to run a couple of days after the draft ends.
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| 81 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 20:43
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Someone had to keep the thread bumped.
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| 82 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 20:51
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Need to get the waivers fixed. Always love having to do this. We have the players lock after being dropped like the RIFC? I forget.
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| 83 | Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 20:58
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I think waivers are set up correctly. Looks like someone added in a waiver period that ends on Sept 5th. After that, FCFS should open the same day until the games start.
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