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Subject: RIFC AAA #1

Posted by: Damoose - [76112313] Thu, Aug 02, 2012, 14:38

Everyone should be receiving an email to join the league. If you don't receive one, please let me know.

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Thu, Aug 02, 2012, 16:06

Ok, how do I change the pictures for my profile? On the home page I have black and white picture of what looks like an old telephone switchboard or a very early computer. When I click on my profile it brings up an old time photo of a group of people gathered up that reminds me of the one Jack Nicholson was in at the end of the Shining.

DWetzel
ID: 31111810
Thu, Aug 02, 2012, 16:27

If you go to the login page from the email you got, you should see something like:

Now that you have successfully logged in, please take some time to customize your own personal information and familiarize yourself with the site:

Change your password, enter your franchise information, your wireless information, your other contact information, and customize your franchise with logos, icons and even sounds!

Customize is the link you want -- first item there asks for Franchise Icon URL -- pick the picture you want from the web, and badabing, badaboom, there you go.

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Tue, Aug 07, 2012, 11:32

What, roughly, is the timeline for getting things started as far as draft/etcetera? Not being pushy, I know that some rules issues need to be resolved by the main league, just sort of want to plan my life a bit.

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Wed, Aug 08, 2012, 10:30

I am still waiting for one person to join the league. When he joins, we will start the draft order selection process. I haven't received our drafting site information yet. I think Guru said about starting towards the end of August. So we will probably begin around the same time the main league does. I will keep everyone informed as we go.

If you have any questions, you can post them here or send me an email.

-email is probably the best bet as they go straight to my cell phone.

DWetzel
ID: 49962710
Thu, Aug 09, 2012, 12:16

*thumbs up*

damoose
ID: 397221111
Sat, Aug 11, 2012, 12:23

In order to start the draft selection process, I need two lists of numbers 1-14. Please send them to my email. I will use the first two I receive.

Upjgrad@gmail.com

Once I get the lists, we can start the selection process.

Thanks.

damoose
ID: 397221111
Sat, Aug 11, 2012, 13:32

I have received one list. Just need one more.

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sat, Aug 11, 2012, 17:59

Sent!

damoose
ID: 397221111
Sat, Aug 11, 2012, 20:54

I have received the two sets necessary.

I started by putting owners in alphabetical order.

1. Damoose
2. Donkey hunters
3. Dpr
4. Dwetzel
5. Fugazi
6. Goatlocker
7. Jseth333
8. Khahan
9. Perm dude
10. Sarge33
11. Smith32
12. Syncopats
13. Tree
14. Twilson

First set of numbers was (9,8,14,10,5,11,13,4,7,12,2,1,3,6) which gives us the order below.

1. Syncopats
2. Smith32
3. Tree
4. Khahan
5. Fugazi
6. Twilson
7. Perm dude
8. Donkey hunters
9. Damoose
10. Dwetzel
11. Goatlocker
12. Sarge33
13. Jseth333
14. Dpr

The second set of numbers was (8,7,6,5,3,10,9,12,13,11,1,4,14,2) which gives us a draft slot selection order of

1. Donkey hunters
2. Twilson
3. Perm dude
4. Fugazi
5. Tree
6. Dwetzel
7. Damoose
8. Sarge33
9. Jseth333
10. Goatlocker
11. Syncopats
12. Khahan
13. Dpr
14. Smith32

Donkey hunters can proceed with his choice of draft slot if everything looks alright.

Donkey Hunter
ID: 22743318
Sun, Aug 12, 2012, 20:30

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Donkey Hunters
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

twilson is up

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 10:13

Here's my email address in this therad so its easy to find me when I'm on deck.

twilson
ID: 221142214
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 13:08

1. twilson
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Donkey Hunters
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

Perm Dude is up

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 13:24

1. twilson
2. Perm Dude
3.
4.
5.
6. Donkey Hunters
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

Fugazi's pick

FUGAZI
ID: 40730220
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 16:51

I will take three.

FUGAZI
ID: 40730220
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 17:07

1. twilson
2. Perm Dude
3. fugazi
4.
5.
6. Donkey Hunters
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

Tree
ID: 497571318
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 20:05

1. twilson
2. Perm Dude
3. fugazi
4. Tree
5.
6. Donkey Hunters
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

Dwetzel is up.

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 20:37

1. twilson
2. Perm Dude
3. fugazi
4. Tree
5.
6. Donkey Hunters
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13. DWetzel
14.

Onward to damoose.

damoose
ID: 397221111
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 20:43

1. twilson
2. Perm Dude
3. fugazi
4. Tree
5.
6. Donkey Hunters
7. Damoose
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13. DWetzel
14.

Sarge33 is up

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 20:52

Damoose took my spot! lol

1. twilson
2. Perm Dude
3. fugazi
4. Tree
5. Sarge33rd
6. Donkey Hunters
7. Damoose
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13. DWetzel
14.

Jseth333 is up

jseth333
ID: 507151215
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 21:32

1. twilson
2. Perm Dude
3. fugazi
4. Tree
5. Sarge33rd
6. Donkey Hunters
7. Damoose
8. jseth333
9.
10.
11.
12.
13. DWetzel
14.

Goatlocker is up

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 22:48

I, um, appear to have chosen a rather divergent strategy.

We're not picking the order we get to pick the order of our draft picks in, and I missed the memo... right? :)

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 00:48

1. twilson
2. Perm Dude
3. fugazi
4. Tree
5. Sarge33rd
6. Donkey Hunters
7. Damoose
8. jseth333
9.GoatLocker
10.
11.
12.
13. DWetzel
14.

Syncopats is up.

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 03:04

DW: We're picking our draft slots. See above:

"...which gives us a draft slot selection order of

1. Donkey hunters
2. Twilson
3. Perm dude
4. Fugazi
5. Tree
6. Dwetzel
7. Damoose
8. Sarge33
9. Jseth333
10. Goatlocker
11. Syncopats
12. Khahan
13. Dpr
14. Smith32"

This is the order at which we pick from among the open draft order spots (except Smith 32, who will be assigned the last open slot). The final filled-in order will be our snake draft positions.

Donkey Hunter
ID: 377261315
Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 08:31

DWetzel, you made me feel better about my selection.

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 08:47

I emailed my slot selections to a few managers. Not sure if I'll be able to check-in this morning in a timely manner so those of you who got the email of my preferred slot order, feel free to pick whenever.

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 09:38

Per emails, syncopats takes the tenth spot. Khahan takes the 14th spot.

1. twilson
2. Perm Dude
3. fugazi
4. Tree
5. Sarge33rd
6. Donkey Hunters
7. Damoose
8. jseth333
9.GoatLocker
10. Syncopats
11.
12.
13. DWetzel
14. Khahan

Dpr is up to make the final decision.

dpr
ID: 9513258
Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 10:36

I will take 12

1. twilson
2. Perm Dude
3. fugazi
4. Tree
5. Sarge33rd
6. Donkey Hunters
7. Damoose
8. jseth333
9.GoatLocker
10. Syncopats
11. Smith32
12. DPR
13. DWetzel
14. Khahan

We were really fast selecting out draft positions. Hopefully that is a sign of a speedy draft.

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 11:46

Alright guys, that was quick. Good Work. As soon as I have the draft site ready, I will forward along the info to you guys.

dpr
ID: 9513258
Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 11:52

Arent we drafting on MFL?

Smith32
ID: 257151416
Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 17:15

Interesting that the #11 slot was the last one selected in our league, but the second one selected in the RIFC. I guess that is the beauty of bonzai in that there is no consensus on which slot is best or worst.

damoose
ID: 397221111
Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 17:24

#29

Yes we are. We will start our draft around the time RIFC starts theirs. Is that alright?

Do we want to start with a clock or go until the draft slows down then implement one?

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 19:15

I'd start with a clock, but make it a longish one (6 hours, with a nighttime shutoff?), and adjust the time down as needed later in the draft if it seems like it's not proceeding fast enough.

Hopefully people will use queues enough that the clock is a non-issue.

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 23:17

If it goes like the last couple of years, the clock will be a non-issue.

damoose
ID: 397221111
Thu, Aug 16, 2012, 19:53

I would like to wait til after third preseason game is over to start the draft. I believe that's the game where starters would play the most. That would start the draft on august 27th. I would probably start the draft with clock on to keep it moving.

What do people think of this?

dpr
ID: 9513258
Thu, Aug 16, 2012, 22:18

That would give us only 9 days before the start of the season which seems real tight. I think its possible to do the draft in a week as MFL seems to run faster then drafttime but that doesnt leave any room for error or for waivers before the season.

damoose
ID: 397221111
Thu, Aug 16, 2012, 22:31

We can start earlier. We will see what others say.

dpr
ID: 9513258
Thu, Aug 16, 2012, 22:36

Damoose for example in the draft you ran last year and that I was in, we started on the 23rd and ended the 2nd which is around when we would need this draft to finish to be read for the 5th. One AAA started the 18th and finished the 1st (altho wasnt in the second until the 22nd). The other started the 20th and ended on the 3rdish. RIFC started the 23rd and ended the 30th. Based on precedent I would think we would need to be looking to move things up several days

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Thu, Aug 16, 2012, 22:47

agree with dpr..wed the 22nd start date works for me..or tomorrow, or ...lol

damoose
ID: 397221111
Thu, Aug 16, 2012, 22:55

How does the 22nd sound for everyone?

Judy
ID: 54203110
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 00:07

Wow -- you guys are really rushing it. Even the keeper leagues are not beginning until the 23rd!

I suspect that is the soonest we (AAA#2) would start, although one can always open it unofficially for those who just cannot wait!!

I agree that aug 27 is late, but MFL runs really fast -- be careful how you set your Q as there is no delay option as in drafttime.

I'll follow along to see what you are doing...we haven't really discussed it yet. I used to like to be first, but now I want to see who other leagues are choosing in case it influences my choices...

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 01:07

Works, one starts 20th, one starts 23 so 22 works.
And fast draft on 21st.

Smith32
ID: 257151416
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 09:26

The 22nd sounds great.

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 09:55

21st, 22nd. Don't really care. Just tell me when I can start embarrassing myself with horrible picks.

Syncopats
ID: 1976109
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 11:23

This is just a test post. Been having problems posting to the forum.

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 12:12

I'm thinking of opening the draft on the 22nd to those that can't wait and want to set up their queues. I wouldn't plan on implementing a clock until the 27th.

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 12:13

are most owners on the east or west coast?

I'm from PA so I'm an east coaster.

DWetzel
ID: 49962710
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 12:29

Is "neither coast" a valid option? :) Because that's me.

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 13:11

I dont generally run ques, more than the current pick in length. Nor, do I have a history of holding up a draft. (I dont think anyway. lol)

So when you say opening it up for those who want to set up a que BUT not starting a clock until the 27th, if twilson made a pick on the 22nd, it would go thru and the draft proceed, right?

Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 13:14

i'm the third coast - Texas.

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 13:39

lol thats an independent republic. Just ask Perry. ;)

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 13:40

#49, yes it would go through and move onto next pick.

Smith32
ID: 257151416
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 14:36

Damoose - PA as well.

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 15:47

There's a lot of us from Pa on these boards.

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 15:50

Ditto.

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 16:34

FTR CA here...ready to start anytime

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 16:41

pfft... nobody cares about Ca. Just jump on the Pa-party bus and enjoy the ride.

I know what area PD is in and I know Judy is actually only about 25-30mins from me. There's a few others I know about where they are, but I'm curious where some of the other Pa board members are from.

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 16:46

pfft... nobody cares about Ca.

You know if I had feelings, that could have hurt them :/

damoose
ID: 397221111
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 17:14

I'm from Johnstown, home of the floods

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 19:28

Other side of the state for me Damoose. about 35-40 mins outside of philadelphia.

Smith32
ID: 257151416
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 20:36

York

jseth333
ID: 507151215
Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 23:16

Texas here.

Syncopats
ID: 1976109
Sat, Aug 18, 2012, 10:03

East coast Canada here.

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 18, 2012, 11:54

The Mighty Broke state of California.
But much, much further south than sarge is.

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sun, Aug 19, 2012, 14:24

dpr
ID: 9513258
Sun, Aug 19, 2012, 21:15

Are we doing waivers or FAAB? What about other changes from RIFC?

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 19, 2012, 21:20

I assumed we were doing the Blind Bid, but guess 66 is a good question.

Inquiring minds want to know.

damoose
ID: 397221111
Sun, Aug 19, 2012, 22:47

We are doing the blind bid system. Following the same rules as RIFC.

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Mon, Aug 20, 2012, 08:56

Is the draft going to be on the same site we are doing the league on? I found a draft section there and its waiting for the first selection. But I can't find anywhere to do a que or make picks (checked the draft section and the fa section).

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Mon, Aug 20, 2012, 09:12

I haven't opened the draft, thats why you can't make a selection.

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Mon, Aug 20, 2012, 09:13

As agreed by RIFC, the initial waiver order is the reverse of the picking order and I have just set that. You can check it if you wish.

Blind bidding ties will be broken by this list for the two days of post draft bidding. After that the waiver order list will be turned off as ties will be broken by the standings -- worse team wins (until playoffs).

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Mon, Aug 20, 2012, 09:36

Any chance we can open it with no timer so people can start setting ques and figuring the site out?

I remember being confused by the site's draft programming last year as far as setting que's go and even when I thought I had it figured it, was still making mistakes with ques for specific rounds vs general ques.

damoose
ID: 397221111
Mon, Aug 20, 2012, 13:11

Yes, as soon as I get back to my desk. I will open it and send out an email.

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Mon, Aug 20, 2012, 14:07

I just sent out an email to all the owners. I have opened the draft for everyone to look around and refresh their memory about the drafting system. Feel free to make a selection but the draft will not officially start until the 22nd.

Smith32
ID: 257151416
Tue, Aug 21, 2012, 12:45

RE 72 - I am drafting on MFL for a different league right now, and I agree, it is confusing. "My Draft List" and "Pre-Draft Picks" are different. My Draft List is only used once your time expires, whereas Pre-Draft Picks are made as soon as it is your turn. If you go to Owners -> Draft, you set your Pre-Draft Picks. If you go to Owners -> My Draft List, you set your "My Draft List". I think you can move players from your "My Draft List" into your "Pre-Draft Picks" pretty easily in the "Pre-Draft Picks" area, but you have to do it each round.

For those that are more familiar - is my summary accurate?

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Wed, Aug 22, 2012, 13:50

re: 75

Yes, that sounds right.

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Wed, Aug 22, 2012, 13:51

The draft was supposed to start today. Did everyone receive my email the other day? I see there are a few teams that haven't been on the website in over a week.

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Wed, Aug 22, 2012, 15:33

got my que setup. I pick 5th, and have 5 names in the que

twilson
ID: 221142214
Wed, Aug 22, 2012, 16:00

I'm having trouble figuring out how to make my selection. I have added the player I want to My Draft List, but when I go to the Draft page, all I see is "Waiting On twilson's Milchian Magicians For The Next Pick." There is no place I've found where I can execute my selection. If anybody has an idea, please let me know.

damoose
ID: 397221111
Wed, Aug 22, 2012, 16:33

What happens when you go into draft link on left side of website?

Jseth33
ID: 327382216
Wed, Aug 22, 2012, 17:38

Once logged into your team across the very top you will see for owners with a drop down - one choice is draft which will let you select, organize, etc

twilson
ID: 221142214
Wed, Aug 22, 2012, 18:11

I have been logged in, but it isn't making a difference. Selecting "Draft" from the For Owners dropdown brings me to a screen where I can modify my pre-draft pick lists. MFL claims that any pre-draft picks are selected as soon as it is your turn to pick, but the system has yet to select for me despite having a pre-draft pick saved for round 1.

Selecting the "Draft" link on the left side of the website brings up the list of all 336 picks. I see that Sarge has made a Pre-Draft Selection, and it says "Waiting On twilson's Milchian Magicians For The Next Pick" next to my name in the 1.01 slot.

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Wed, Aug 22, 2012, 18:26

FOR OWNERS-->DRAFT

should bring up a white box with a coupe of smaller boxes above it.

Select position of player you want it to show;
Then in the middle box is a default NONE. Use the drop down, to select player name.
Then, add to list.

This is how I built a pre draft list, but if it is your pick, only need to put one name in the list.

Then click SAVE AND CONTINUE

has to be a better way, but.....

twilson
ID: 221142214
Wed, Aug 22, 2012, 18:37

Sarge, I did exactly that. For some reason, the system is not utilizing my saved player to make the pick. I remember other buttons being available to me last year. I'm wondering if maybe there is something that the commissioner needs to unlock for the draft to kick into action; if the problem is just my account, I'll have to ask MFL for help.

If there is a way for the commish to pick for me, please take Arian Foster - RB, HOU so that we can move on while the problem gets addressed.

damoose
ID: 397221111
Wed, Aug 22, 2012, 19:44

I made pick for you, must've been a glitch.

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 09:37

Lets address this before it gets to me. I seems to be having the same problem TWilson is. I am NOT getting the screen sarge is describing which I remember from last year. I am seeing a list of the draft slots with an option to view it in grid format.
I cannot find any other draft options. When I go into the league on the left hand side I am clicking 'draft' under the "League" section of the left side bar.

Are we possibly not registered properly?

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 09:39

I've submitted a ticket asking for help. If I get a good answer I'll post it here.

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 09:42

Nevermind, found the problem.
T-wilson if you haven't figured it out try this.

At the very top of the page is a bar with a number of links. One of those is "For Owners" (yes like sarge said, but I thought he was making a statement like, "for owners you'll want to do this." as opposed to people watching the draft or assisting)

When you click on THAT link you get the option to que and make your pre-draft list. The bar is "My League" "Reports" "For Owners" "Communications" "Links" "Help"

Not the bar on t he left that says, "Draft"

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 09:43

When I go to draft on left column, I get the grid with all the picks.....When I go up to For Owners --> Draft, I get the ability to enter pre-draft picks.....That will stay like that unless it is your turn to draft

twilson
ID: 221142214
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 11:04

Khahan, I was able to submit a pre-draft list as you specify, but MFL failed to make a selection from that list for my pick. It also failed to offer a button allowing me to execute a pick manually. Hopefully this was simply a one-time problem associated with me being the first pick.

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 11:09

yea, we will find out at your next turn. Hopefully just a one time thing.

dpr
ID: 9513258
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 11:41

I do think that last year the draft view from the left column included links to make predraft picks and picks when you were up. It is very odd that it does not and that you have to go the top bar to make any picks

DWetzel
ID: 49962710
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 11:47

Agreed. Less than intuitive. Figured it out eventually, but...

dpr
ID: 9513258
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 11:50

Also is there a way to make it autorefresh?

Tree
ID: 17039238
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 12:12

man, i don't understand this bidding system we'll be using. i tried to understand the examples in the RIFC thread, but it doesn't make sense to me.

anyone wanna try and dumb it down for me?

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 12:21

anyone wanna try and dumb it down for me?
wait till the bidding period is over and pick players up on FA.

I have no clue what they're talking about either. When they were talking about bids I figured once each week we could submit:

Hey I want to bid $3 on rob deere, $5 on nolan ryan

If I'm the highest bid on each I get them and when I'm out of money I'm done getting first crack.

But it sounds as if there are a lot more layers to it than that.

dpr
ID: 9513258
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 12:32

If you remember from past years you would sometimes try to get multiple players for the same slot when you only wanted one. COnditional allows us to do this. FOr example I know that I will need a new LB next week due to buys. I bid $5 on my irst choice and then $4 on my second choice but only if I dont get my first choice (as I dont want 2, but know that I need to get one)

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 12:40

Thanks dpr. That simple explanation did a lot more to help me understand what it is. The other thread they seem to be talking about how it works, not what it does. Now that I understand what it is I think I understand how it works, too.

dpr
ID: 9513258
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 12:51

It does depend on whether we decide on conditoinal or non-conditional.

With conditional, by putting multiple bids within a round you are saying if the first one doesnt work you want to do the second. With multiple rounds you are saying you want to make an additional move. At least as I understand it.

100

DWetzel
ID: 49962710
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 13:13

That sounds right, though I wouldn't swear to it.

On a draft note, I'm interested to see how dpr's team shakes out after this start -- I thought about going with Stafford in the 2nd but chickened out.

101

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 13:40

same wetzel. I was looking at stafford but felt cam's running game would give him an edge.

As for the 2.01 pick...anybody interested in trading for Demarco? Was looking at a different rb or him and the other guy i wanted was already taken.

102

Toral
ID: 424462011
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 13:57

May I ask what the URL for your league is? i don't know whether outsiders can look at it or not.

103

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 14:05

Roto AAA #1

104

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 14:08

Technically, I don't believe we have to use the blind bidding if the majority of owners dont want to.

105

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 14:31

Toral, if you go to the sites homepage there is a search box. Put in Rotoguru in the search box and it will bring up all the rifc leagues. You can look at each leagues draft.

106

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 14:34

I might be into a position trade for DeMarco K.

Talk to me. :)

107

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 14:47

here is my email link. I've suspended my 2nd rd draft list for now.

108

Tree
ID: 17039238
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 14:51

ditto. what are you interested in Khahan?

109

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 15:31

trade offer sent

110

dpr
ID: 9513258
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 15:35

I like demarco and would have taken him over Stafford. Im not looking to move Graham and Stafford doesnt fit you team, but if you would be interested in a trade working only with draft picks let me know.

111

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 16:01

I'd like another RB in that spot or the ability in r2 to get another RB.

Sarge no real problem with your offer except knowing who will be available at that point in the round offered. Mind if I sit on it and see how things develop?

112

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 17:01

your call..like I said, I suspended my draft que so it wont roll thru my turn...it'll stop

113

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 17:32

If I'm looking at the clock and our times correctly aren't we within an hour of a timeout and its only round 2?

114

damoose
ID: 397221111
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 17:43

There's no clock right now...I was trying to see how we would do without one..the other leagues haven't started their drafts so we are still good

115

twilson
ID: 221142214
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 17:48

The "Draft Status" box on my homepage is claiming that a clock is in place and will expire in 28 minutes. If that is not what we intend, we should do something about that before it autopicks from all the ensuing queues.

116

Syncopats
ID: 1976109
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 18:20

Was just about to make my next pick when the timer expired. Didn't realize a timer was on. What can be done?

117

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 18:20

site thought the clock was running, and it timed out on sycophant, then auto picked till I came up.

We need to address this...right quick.

118

dpr
ID: 9513258
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 18:23

Well who did you want? How many picks would need to be undone?

At this point I think we can just undo things because we arent at the point where things are deviating much and knowing what someone else after you is picking changes anything.

119

Syncopats
ID: 1976109
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 18:32

I just emailed damoose with my pick. Should be rectified shortly.

120

damoose
ID: 397221111
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 18:36

I thought I had turned timer off. I apologize for that. He wanted Julio Jones so I entered him in as his pick. I did turn timer off though.

121

dpr
ID: 9513258
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 18:38

Can you not make a pick for yourself once you time out?

122

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 18:40

alrighty then...K? Whats the status on the trade offer? :)

123

damoose
ID: 397221111
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 18:41

Im not sure. I think.last year, they had to email them to me and I had to manually enter them.

124

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 19:28

Just got done w/ dinner. I'm looking over the picks. I'll accept or reject in a few moments sarge.

125

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 19:28

lol np

126

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 19:36

You're up sarge. didn't work out. was targetting 3 guys, none of them made it.

127

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 19:54

lol ok
I see Tree took Matthews...I LITERALLY, flipped a coin between Jackson and Matthews. lol

128

FUGAZI
ID: 40730220
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 20:24

I was hoping Matthews would fall one more spot.

129

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 21:35

Well, guess that means Matthews sure as hell wasn't getting back to me.
And still wasn't sure I wanted him that early.

130

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 09:17

Smith32 - you've got a trade offer.

131

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 09:53

When are we turning on the clock?
Trying to figure out how deep I need to go with queues.

132

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 11:13

Are we doing a recap thread or just putting recaps in this thread? I did notice some people are using the comments section on the site.

133

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 11:19

I'm using the site because otherwise I'll forget--and I'll flesh them out later so I don't have to reveal strategy at this point. The early picks aren't hard but the middle rounds will be harder to remember once the heat of the draft ends!

134

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 11:46

The clock will be turned on Monday.

135

DWetzel
ID: 49962710
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 13:03

Anyone looking to move up in round 4 in exchange for later draft pick swaps (something like swapping 5ths and 7ths or 5ths and 9ths depending on how far up you want to move), let me know. I think the pick is very available.

136

Smith32
ID: 257151416
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 13:54

Khahan - offer accepted.

137

fugazi
ID: 40730220
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 13:59

making pick shortly

138

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 14:40

Fugazi took Eli...he was 1 of the three I was debating between when I took Hakim.

139

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 14:47

I settled on 1 guy for this pick. Twilson can't take him.

140

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 15:30

Khahan and Smith32 has agreed to a trade.

Khahan gives up D. Murray and receives D. Sproles from Smith32.

RIFC Trade Policy is listed below..

Trades and trade deadline
During the draft, trades may include draft picks. Trades will normally be approved immediately by the Commissioner, assuming they are reasonably balanced. If league managers believe an announced trade is unbalanced, they should protest the trade ASAP.

After the draft, trades will be subject to a review period. For the first 24 hours following a trade, managers may protest a trade by posting a message at the RotoGuru forum, or by sending an email to the Commissioner. If at least 3 managers protest a trade within 24 hours of its announcement, then all managers will be polled within the next 24 hours. If seven or more managers vote to veto a trade, then it will not be approved. If a proposed trade is announced less than 24 hours before the earliest freeze for any player involved, then the entire trade will not be processed until the following week.

If a trade does not receive at least 3 protests, then it will be effective 24 hours after it is announced. If a trade receives at least 3 protests but the protests are not upheld in a full league vote, then the trade will be processed 48 hours after it is announced.

141

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 16:14

Sure looks "reasonably balanced" to me, even if I disagree with someone's evaluation of Sproles. :)

142

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 16:16

Considering all the categories this league scores in (and Sproles contributes to) and the fact that a lot of people are actually down on Demarco...I admit I'm taking a chance that demarco does live up to the hype. I'm reading a lot of hype on him, but I'm also reading a lot of, "dont believe the hype" with some sound reasoning behind it.

143

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 16:37

I like DeMarco over Sproles in a big way, but thats me.

144

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 24, 2012, 19:37

Ditto what sarge said.

145

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 13:54

I cant be alone in thinking Maclin is gonna be "the guy" in Philly, am I?

146

Donkey Hunter
ID: 22743318
Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 14:34

Based on RIFC AA draft, Judy agrees with you.

147

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 22:53

Nice, 3 guys in my que left and 1 pick to go. Guaranteed to get this turn quick.

148

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 23:18

I have absolutely no idea who I should have picked at 5.13, but Peyton at 6.02 seems like a steal to me. I for sure would have taken him over Rivers and Ryan and possibly a couple others.

149

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sun, Aug 26, 2012, 17:57

Will be picking in a few. I'm torn between two players and am doing some more research right now.

150

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 12:05

Just a curiosity note: guru took sproles at 2.01 over murray because of the return yardage (he wanted newton, too at 1.14 but he was snatched up).

My only thought based on reaction from the league is could I have gotten a late round bump up? Happy either way. Got the guy I felt I should have drafted to begin with.

151

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 12:14

As my email earlier today said, I have turned the timer on.

152

DWetzel
ID: 49962710
Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 12:39

Well, I HAD a nice little draft list set up...

153

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 14:25

I agree Dwetzel. I had 3 guys I was really hoping would come around. Not a single one did, though 1 of them came close.

One thing that is making me take a while is the draft list. Does anybody know of a setting I can use so that when a player is drafted he comes off of my draft list?

Its confusing trying to cross reference different sites. I'll give away my secret though because its proving to be a valuable tool for somebody with limited knowledge (especially in the defensive players). I went to yahoo, plugged in our league point systems and players and am using their points from last year plus a bit of research into injury and starting status. Its going a long way to helping me stay organized this year (as opposed to last year where I really could only draft on name recognition for many slots).

154

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 14:26

dmmt K...you just took nr 1 and nr 2 from my que. :(

155

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 14:30

Khahan, if you are a RotoWire subscriber, you can download their free draft software which might help.

156

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 14:39

Thanks pd. I'm not a rotowire subscriber unfortunately. The benefit of yahoo is that I'm used to its formatting and systems. Brings a bit of familiarity back to the draft which I really need.

And Sarge, you can thank Yahoo for that bit of que-theft. Like I said, they are helping me keep track of positions and players I don't know as well.

157

fugazi
ID: 40730220
Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 22:39

UGH! I was drafting from my phone and accidentally drafted suggs. My thumbs are way to big to be attempting that.

158

fugazi
ID: 40730220
Mon, Aug 27, 2012, 22:43

Is there anyway to fix this?

159

damoose
ID: 397221111
Tue, Aug 28, 2012, 00:15

I fixed it for you, sorry for delay

160

fugazi
ID: 07502723
Tue, Aug 28, 2012, 00:50

Thank you. Lesson learned, no drafting from my phone.

161

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 28, 2012, 09:54

suggs shocked me when I saw the pick

162

fugazi
ID: 40730220
Tue, Aug 28, 2012, 15:43

Me too! Thought I had drafted Pettigrew, then looked at my team and I have Suggs. So I sprang from the couch and tried to fix it. Thank you everybody for being so cool about it. Apparently nobody wanted Pettigrew anyway.

163

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Tue, Aug 28, 2012, 18:29

I would have snap-grabbed him if he slipped to me!

164

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 13:35

Man I tell ya. There is nothing like waffling between 7 or 8 players. Whittling down your list. Waffling between 2-4 players and finally deciding, "Ok, this is the pick for me this round" Only to have him taken the last pick before you get to go.

165

DWetzel
ID: 49962710
Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 13:39

I'll take that as a compliment! I'm really throwing a bunch of darts at this point.

166

DWetzel
ID: 49962710
Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 13:42

PS -- I noticed the AAA#2 league has started doing draft rationales. Are we going to do those as well?

167

Jseth33
ID: 327382216
Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 14:13

I vote for optional or no...

168

damoose
ID: 397221111
Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 20:45

That's optional, some people are posting their thoughts on draft site

169

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 21:04

dmmt lol was hoping Janis would fall 1 more round

170

dpr
ID: 9513258
Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 01:05

to anyone who reads them, I just went back and did rationales for the whole draft.

171

fugazi
ID: 40730220
Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 02:17

That's cool, I went ahead and did the same thing. I like reading the rationales and don't have a problem with just posting them on the draft board.

172

damoose
ID: 397221111
Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 17:06

Perm dude's clock expired....it chose a player off his "my draft list"...if he wants to change the pick, he can email me or text me and I will

173

damoose
ID: 397221111
Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 22:09

We started three days before Judy's AAA league and yet they are three and a half rounds ahead of us.

Please set queues if your not going to be around. We need to finish in time to have a round of waivers before season.

174

holt
ID: 40730220
Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 23:29

some of you guys need to set queues. I can't take any more maniacal phone calls from my brother about how slow this draft is. : )

175

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 01:22

mine is the 6th pick in line, so I qued up with 6 names in the list.

176

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 10:59

I thought my list was set to automatically pick from my Draft List. Honestly, that site is not very intuitive, but I'll take a look to make sure the picks get made automatically.

177

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 14:30

heh qued 6 last night, that pick got made, I got up this morning and damned if you werent still waiting for me...*smdh*

178

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 17:46

Syncoapts, could you please start using a que?

179

Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 17:59

it's nuts to me that that person who has the longest wait time between picks (in fact, longer than the NEXT THREE combined) is the one person basically not using a queue. we're in round 20 here...

180

fugazi
ID: 07502723
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 18:05

Yeah, I wanna get this over with. One round a day is driving me nuts. one person should not be allowed dictate the speed of the draft.

181

damoose
ID: 397221111
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 18:46

I'm shortening the clock after this pick. Three or four hours? Anyone have problem with this?

182

fugazi
ID: 40730220
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 18:54

Not at all.

183

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 18:55

while I like the idea and agree with the 'why', I have to speak against timing change mid-draft.

we have 5 more picks...if Syn would just USE THE DAMN QUE...we could get thru this before noon Sunday.

184

Syncopats
ID: 1976109
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 19:47

Guys, I am really, really sorry my picks have been holding up the draft. I remember there was a guy doing the same thing last year, and it wasn't cool. I apologize & will be on the ball for the remaining rounds. I meant no disrespect to anyone.

185

fugazi
ID: 40730220
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 19:50

It's no big deal man, just wanna finish up quick because of the three day weekend.

186

damoose
ID: 397221111
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 19:58

Thanks for speaking up. I just wanted to finish up with holiday coming.

187

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 20:05

7th pick pending,,have 5 in the que lol..see if one makes it

188

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 20:05

Thanks for the reply syncopats. :)

189

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 21:52

Aaaaand... we're done. (Well, almost, there's 1 pick left.)

Well done for that!

I hate my team, but then again looking at everyone else, I hate everyone else's team too. It's amazing what a difference 12 vs. 14 teams makes.

190

damoose
ID: 397221111
Sat, Sep 01, 2012, 22:13

So I have set it for blind bidding waivers to begin Sunday at 2 pm and it will award players Wednesday at noon est. First come, first serve will then begin at 3 pm.

It is set up as non-conditional blind bidding waivers.

The basic explanation is that you have $100 for the year. Be careful of your budget because when your money is gone, you won't be able to participate in waivers.

I forgot my CPU at work so when I'm at work Monday. I will send out more info by email.

191

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Tue, Sep 04, 2012, 11:40

Will we have a recap thread?

192

damoose
ID: 397221111
Tue, Sep 04, 2012, 18:59

Yea, we will start one.

193

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 16:36

"Adrian Peterson will split carries", they said. "Don't start him, he'll see limited action", they said.

I hate "them".

194

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 16:39

RG III, looking like he thinks he's Peyton Manning. lol I know, its only 1 game, but this kid is showing us how much game he has. Gonna be fun, watching him play over the next few years,

195

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 19:54

Man, did I mess up my roster. Hard to play the matchup game when opponent defense still isn't clear in my mind. It'll take a miracle to pull out even one W this week.

196

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 20:00

I might split, but there is plenty of room yet, for me to go oh-fer.

197

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sun, Sep 09, 2012, 23:46

"RG III, looking like he thinks he's Peyton Manning."

I believe Peyton Manning has registered his objection to post 194.

Of course, the rest of my team blows, but...

198

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Mon, Sep 10, 2012, 00:03

Some really good and really close match ups this week. Looks like I'm going 1-1. Got dpr beat, he's done with players. My last is over in 3mins and I'm up by 5 on Smith32. But he's got flacco/torrey smith going tomorrow. Even if decker gets a last minute td here I don't think it'll be enough to hold off that.

Been a good week 1. Interesting note is my somewhat maligned trade of sproles for murray...thats what is giving me the lead right now over Smith (who I treaded with).

199

dpr
ID: 9513258
Mon, Sep 10, 2012, 10:24

Not a good week. RB combining for 2 points just doesnt get it done

200

Smith32
ID: 357191213
Mon, Sep 10, 2012, 19:13

Your hopes lasted about 15 seconds.

201

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Tue, Sep 11, 2012, 08:15

Yeah, I saw that Smith. I hadn't even realized the game started and I was already beat. Knew that was coming though. But I'll take 1-1 to start. Newton was slow out of the gate, which surely hurt.But if he performed how I expected I don't think he would have made up the 20+ point difference over what he did score. Good match this week.

202

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Sep 16, 2012, 17:33

Still early in the season, I know, but considering i had 5th overall and went RB/RB....my 2 guys arent giving back what the selections would indicate I was hoping for.

203

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Sep 16, 2012, 19:39

Pretty happy with this week. Got Goatlocker wrapped up by about 17 pts. He's done and I still have eric decker. 50point lead on Syncopats but he does have 3 players going still. 2 of them are defensive players. They'd have to make up 50 points plus whatever decker gets.

205

fugazi
ID: 40730220
Sun, Sep 16, 2012, 20:05

I'm feeling pretty good about my team, but I gotta stop listening to the experts. I benched D-JAX for Moore after reading some expert advice. Oh well only a eight point diff, hopefully I can still pull out a double win. Vampire and DPR still have a good shot though. Tonight's game should be pretty fun to watch.

206

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Sep 16, 2012, 20:06

I'm done, ahead in both games, and could still go 2-0. or 1-1 or 0-2. lol There is just no telling yet as TWilson still has 2 to go (Matt Ryan and Jason Hanson) to make up a 24 pt deficit and Donkey Hunters still has 4 to go (R Moss, R White, N Suh and E Dumevil) to make up 29 points.

207

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sun, Sep 16, 2012, 20:10

Even if I go 2-0 this week (it's possible), my team blows.

208

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Sep 16, 2012, 21:13

eek...1st Qtr and Hanson already covered 7 pts for TW.

209

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Sep 16, 2012, 22:00

1/2 time, and I find myself hoping to go 1-1. 13.2 pt lead, TW with a QB and a 1/2 yet for Hanson...I dont think thats enough lead for me.

210

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Sep 17, 2012, 21:54

Well, I WAS one point behind Tree...

Ooshka ooshka, Peyton.

211

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Tue, Sep 18, 2012, 00:58

0-2 :(

212

Donkey Hunter
ID: 377261315
Tue, Sep 18, 2012, 11:05

Blame Dante Rosario

213

fugazi
ID: 40730220
Fri, Sep 21, 2012, 02:43

Ugh! Just got home from the DEVO concert to see brown put up some major points. I knew I should have plugged him in.

214

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Fri, Sep 21, 2012, 09:30

Ugh, just ugh last night.

215

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Sep 23, 2012, 13:14

with 2 Nr1 WRs out for this week...I'm projecting 0-2 again

216

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Sep 23, 2012, 16:50

Good match ups so far. Neither of mine are sealed yet.

You're not knocked out of it yet sarge. You've got 1 more player than me going right now and 3 yet to start to my 2.

217

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Sep 23, 2012, 17:28

like last week...4 teams in the league out scored me, and I was playing 2 of them. :/

218

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Sep 23, 2012, 17:50

And there goes Heyward-Bey with a nice TD. 2 point difference. You know sarge Ithink you beat me twice last year. I"m looking for revenge. And I think both times they were game that came down to the final minutes of play sunday night or even monday.

219

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Sep 23, 2012, 18:39

sarge, tell your guys to stop it.

220

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Sep 23, 2012, 18:49

heh yeah right...just as soon as B votes Dem. ;)

221

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Sep 23, 2012, 23:59

How in the world did I manage to get you and Dwetz in the same week? Its a left wing conspiracy. Its gotta be. Looks like I'm coming out with a split though. D is done. I'm up by 3, have a player still to go. But as much as I like Charles Woodson, I don't think he's going to outscore your Crosby Mason and Kam Chancellor by 14 points.

I still blame Cam Newton for this debacle.

222

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Mon, Sep 24, 2012, 00:23

This week has been full of surprises. Started, with Minn beating SF. Then KC beating NO. My point totals, given that my 2 nr1 type WRs were OUT and my nr4 emergency WR scored ZERO, while my nr2 RB was Q yesterday so I put my nr3 RB in and he scored all of 3 1/2 points.

Trust me, I am shocked. (Happily shocked, but shocked all the same lol)

224

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Wed, Sep 26, 2012, 12:45

sure glad I went 3 deep on my waiver wire activity. 1st dip into that pool this year, and the 1st 2 guys I listed, were gone before my turn came around.

225

Donkey Hunter
ID: 377261315
Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 08:15

I don't think we have "turns" on the waiver wire. It would have meant the first 2 people you wanted, you got outbid on right?

To be honest I'm not 100% sure how it works yet either.

226

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 13:48

right lol I guess that would be true

227

Tree
ID: 88512711
Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 15:44

i won't be playing next year if we have this blind bid business. too much up to chance, not enough to help teams that need it.

228

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 11:19

#225, #226

What don't you understand yet? The blind bidding rules?

229

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 13:48

Blind bidding = money talks!

230

Tree
ID: 57842011
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 14:04

yea, not a fan.

231

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 14:58

I have fewer issue with blind bidding for FA, in keeper leagues. In seasonal leagues, I prefer seeing the teams who need help to be competitive, get 1st shot AT that help.

232

Tree
ID: 57842011
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 15:22

exactly. waivers should be a way to level the playing field early on. this kills that.

233

Perm Dude
ID: 56832185
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 15:24

I tend to agree.

234

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 15:43

However, the rules get voted on by RIFC. We as a qualifying league dont really have much/any input there. Sooooo.....

235

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 16:43

Penalizing teams for drafting well or getting lucky is what you want with worst to first waivers. Teams doing poorly have tiebreakers on bids. If you need someone, bid more. A team can start something like 0-6 (and still make the playoffs and potentially win) despite having the 3rd best score every single week, so why should they get a high priority on the top pickups the first few weeks? On the flip side, a team can have the 3rd lowest score each week and be undefeated and stand no chance later in the season and have no shot at any top pickups early. Blind bidding is fair to every single team in the league.

I'd wager if you're complaining about blind bidding, the odds are good your team is doing poorly and you lost out on key pickups because you didn't bid enough. Ryan Williams for $32 is a steal in this league setup.

236

Tree
ID: 57842011
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 16:44

no, we don't. it doesn't mean i can't voice my opinion. it takes a ton of fun out of the waiver process for me - hard enough in a big league. but then when it's all about how much you bid, and not need, it's kind of whatever.

as you said, for a keeper league it probably works so much better than for an individual season league.

237

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 16:47

"I'd wager if you're complaining about blind bidding, the odds are good your team is doing poorly and you lost out on key pickups because you didn't bid enough. "

And you would be mistaken. Poor drafting, is hardly the only reason a team could do poorly early in the season. I for one, would prefer to win a title/playoff spot in a competitive league vs one where those who needed a boost, didnt seem to catch a break getting that boost.

238

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 17:06

There's nothing stopping the teams who start poorly from grabbing the guys they need. They're at no disadvantage, but they don't have a huge advantage like they would without the blind bidding. If the top scoring team in the league wants to spend their entire $100 on one player early in the year they can, and won't be able to make any non FCFS pickups the rest of the year. If a team doing poorly also wants to spend $100 on that player, then they'll win with the tiebreaker.

The reason so many leagues use blind bidding is because it's fair to everyone. There are really no ifs ands or buts about it.

You guys should try an auction league. Obviously not the same thing as blind bid waivers, but similar in that everyone starts off exactly the same and isn't limited by draft position.

239

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 17:29

I created and commished an auction league here for years. I HAVE tried it. Look, you have oyur opinion, and as wrong as I think it is, you are entitled to it. But to create league wide parity, reverse order of standing, is the best way to do that, There are really no ifs ands or buts about it.

240

Tree
ID: 57842011
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 17:38

Penalizing teams for drafting well or getting lucky is what you want with worst to first waivers.

no, not at all. i want teams that are slow out of the gate to have a better chance of closing the gap - it's a long season, and the quicker someone falls out of contention, the more likely they're not going to bother with updating their line ups, and so forth. and that upsets the competitive balance even more.

The reason so many leagues use blind bidding is because it's fair to everyone. There are really no ifs ands or buts about it.

Ryan Williams for $32 is a steal in this league setup.

and that's one of the many reasons it's not fair to everyone. someone who hasn't done blind bidding wouldn't think 32 bucks is a steal for Ryan Williams.

as more teams slip out of contention with blind bidding in a league such as this, the managers will stop setting their line ups, and it'll make things worse.

241

Perm Dude
ID: 56832185
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 17:46

I understand tree's points, and to a large degree I agree with them. That said, this bidding process is something everyone was aware of going into this season. Yeah, it'll be a pain to learn while doing the other things to keep the team competitive, but an argument next season about keeping or ditching it in RIFC would be most effect by those trying it out.

242

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 17:51

Understood PD, but as I said earlier...the rules arent set by the Q leagues anyway. Its upto the RISC league itself. The Q leagues play by what the lead does.

243

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 18:09

A starting RB available on waivers in a 14 team league where RBs are hoarded (why wasn't he rostered?) is not very common. It should be easy to see how valuable that is whether you've used blind bidding in the past or not.

If managers can't set lineups when their teams are doing poorly, they shouldn't be playing in the first place.

You guys want parity, which is ok. I don't think teams should receive help because they made bad decisions or got unlucky. It eventually happens to everyone. Why take away from the people who did make good decisions or happened to get lucky?

244

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 18:39

Because it isnt a matter of "taking away". To "take away", 'it' had to be yours to start with. Its a matter of sustaining competitiveness.

245

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 01:36

Just adding in my voice that I don't really like the blind bidding and would much prefer the waiver priority. We're not wrong bonka. Its our opinion. So far I'm shying away from even looking at the WW because I don't want to screw up the bidding and I want to make sure I have enough money for the long haul rather than blowing it all now.

246

Tree
ID: 57842011
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 01:50

Why take away from the people who did make good decisions or happened to get lucky?

pretty much what sarge said. it's not taking away. can't take away what you never had.

in the interest of competitive balance, and keeping owners interested who's team's are struggling, a simple worse-to-first waiver wire is the way to go.

247

dpr
ID: 9513258
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 08:48

I like the blind bidding more. If a team drafts well or gets off to as fast start or drafts well the shouldnt be punished or have to allow the other teams to catch up to them.

And they are having something taking away. The chance at a fair shot to get the hot WW pickups. What has a struggling team done to deserve those players?

248

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 15:47

what has anyone done, to "deserve" a player. That entire argument, is ludicrous at best. FFS, this is FANTASY leagues. Parity, competitiveness is IMO, paramount Why? As Tree lluded to earlier...let 2 or 3 managers fall irrevocably behind, and where is their incentive to update their lineups every week? Result, teams playing them ate in the year, get a 'bye' vs the teams that actually had to beat them for the "W". By what 'rights;', does one team deserve 'bye' when another didnt get that same option?

Overall competitiveness, is the key. This is fantasy, not RL. No one is taking food off your table, money out of your pocket, or time away from your family.

249

dpr
ID: 9513258
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 19:06

You are the one arguing that teams who lose early deserve the better waiver pickups. I am saying that everyone deserves an equal chance. And that people who draft well, or get off to a hot start, deserve that advantage.

250

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 19:26

all I have left to say, is that I am with Tree on this. Blind Bidding has its place, in keeper leagues. In a seasonal league, I wont play it that way again.

251

Tree
ID: 57842011
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 20:43

I am saying that everyone deserves an equal chance. And that people who draft well, or get off to a hot start, deserve that advantage.

and, when, 4 weeks in - not even a quarter of the way through the season - a team starts 1-7, or 0-8, and has little or no chance of catching up because there is no waiver priority for those weaker teams, and they pack it in, what then?

it's not fun for the losing team with no chance, and it's not fun for anyone who has to play that team, or for a team that might miss a playoff slot because someone else got a free pass by playing a largely inactive team.

i get it - "let's make it fair for everyone."

but what i get more is "let's make it fun for everyone."

252

Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 21:33

Continuing to ignore the fact that the 1-7 or 0-8 team still has priority on tiebreakers. You act like they are barred from picking up the top player on waivers. That and teams should never be inactive. If someone can't take the couple minutes a week to set a lineup, they shouldn't be playing in the first place and shouldn't be invited to play again. Getting top waiver dibs weekly isn't going to make it any more fun for the team that's probably finishing in last place regardless of what happens.

The logic being used here is so bad it makes me cringe. Using the example of an 0-8 team going inactive and giving 'free wins' to the teams playing them later. They're freakin 0-8, everyone who already played them got a win. Instead, you want a team who lost every game to get the top waiver pickup each week to strengthen the team and then possibly beat the teams they play later in the year using players they got while giving nothing (no managing a yearly budget like with blind bidding or your waiver position with rolling waivers).

253

damoose
ID: 397221111
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 21:36

This is my first time using blind bidding...without the vote from RIFC, I would've never used it.

It can be frustrating but you can say that about everything in fantasy sports.

I like how everyone has the chance at any free agent. It just comes down to luck on if you bid high enough.

254

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 21:48

We have ignored nothing Bonka. We dont like the system. THAT, is our right.

255

Perm Dude
ID: 577543120
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 22:06

It isn't about rights. And this isn't the politics forum.

256

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Sep 30, 2012, 17:58

crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap.

Remind me not to screw around with my line up late at night and then go to bed before fixing it.

257

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sun, Sep 30, 2012, 18:33

Oh hai der Peyton. Good to see you.

258

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Mon, Oct 01, 2012, 00:27

Well I guess I won't complain too much about leaving Kolb in by mistake. Still....its not over yet.

259

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Tue, Oct 02, 2012, 16:01

painful week...2nd time in 4 weeks, 0-2

260

Perm Dude
ID: 56832185
Tue, Oct 02, 2012, 16:09

Cannot believe I won that game. A rarely-seen Hester receiving TD made the difference.

261

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Tue, Oct 02, 2012, 16:13

4 weeks...twice my team scored near or at the week low, twice it scored near or at the league high. Appalling.

262

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Tue, Oct 02, 2012, 18:12

Thats one thing I'm happy about my team so far sarge. I've been very consistent thru 4 weeks. While 150 is on the high end of scoring, its not out of this world high. 130-150 every week for me. I'll take that and a playoff spot.

263

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Tue, Oct 02, 2012, 18:30

103
112
133
172

I like the trend, anyway.

264

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Tue, Oct 02, 2012, 18:32

121.44
152.8
171.82 (league high score for the week)
111.24 total collapse :(

265

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Tue, Oct 02, 2012, 18:40

@ all: I need a scrub QB for Peyton's bye week (week 7). If you're looking for a similarly scrubby WR or RB to fill in, send me an offer. Doesn't need to be immediate, but I know a few of you have two QBs that bye before week 7 and you won't need them both.

266

dpr
ID: 9513258
Wed, Oct 03, 2012, 18:11

Twice now i have added the wrong player with the same last name.

267

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 09:53

I"m predicting a pretty miserable week for me this week. Nothing but tough defenses for nearly every spot in my line up.

268

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 21:54

Robert Meachem sighting?

link

269

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 22:40

my guys are doing their utmost, to at seasons end be 3rd alternate to the Toilet Bowl game. :(

270

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sun, Oct 07, 2012, 23:44

probably 1-1 for me. Fugazi's squad too strong -- 157 points!

271

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Mon, Oct 08, 2012, 00:18

Yeah PD, fugazi steamrolled me this week. But on the other match, Donkey and I have a nailbiter. I'm at 86.50. He's at 85.68. My Andre Johnson vs his Owen Daniels tomorrow night.

272

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Oct 08, 2012, 01:17

Up 6 and change vs. VampireWeekend, with his Jeremy Kerley and Yeremiah Bell vs. my David Harris.

What a weird bunch of players for the game to hang on.

273

fugazi
ID: 07502723
Mon, Oct 08, 2012, 02:34

I'm happy about my team performance but losing Amandola really hurts. Looks like I might need to trade for a Wr3.

274

fugazi
ID: 40730220
Mon, Oct 08, 2012, 21:03

What's up with damoose? Quit, or internet problems?

275

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Mon, Oct 08, 2012, 23:50

this is 2 weeks in a row Andre Johnson didn't show up. He needed a measly 76 yrd for 10k career and did not Reevis to deal with. I figured he was a shoe in for a solid game. You really hurt me right *here* Andre. I don't know if I can forgive that. You broke my trust.

Trade offers being accepted.

276

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Tue, Oct 09, 2012, 20:28

Andre Johnson, single handedly did my squad in one year when I had him. I wont take him. :)

277

Damoose
ID: 76112313
Wed, Oct 10, 2012, 09:47

#274, sorry, I was in hospital with my wife...only had my phone to deal with lineups this week...I was all mixed up...All my players on bye weeks didnt ease things for me

278

fugazi
ID: 40730220
Wed, Oct 10, 2012, 14:58

No prob Damoose I figured it was something like that. I hope everything is alright.

279

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Wed, Oct 10, 2012, 15:05

seconded...my best to all

280

Tree
ID: 509471012
Wed, Oct 10, 2012, 15:25

man...you were quick on that vick ballard tip. i thought i had the line on him, but even 8 seconds was too slow!

281

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Oct 14x, 2012, 23:27

That last INT by Schaub, could be enough to cost me both games. :(

282

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Oct 14x, 2012, 23:32

well, is that last one in the endzone hadnt been enough, this last one he just threw, probably seals the deal for another 0-2 week. :(

283

damoose
ID: 397221111
Mon, Oct 15, 2012, 02:50

This damn league system hates me...I set my roster before taking my daughter to church...I had to work tonight...just got home to see it didn't go thru and I had brees still in lineup

284

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Oct 15, 2012, 10:32

(Ted Knight voice)

Ooooh, Peyton Peyton Peyton, ooooh, Peyton. Don't let me down, Peyton.

285

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Mon, Oct 15, 2012, 16:02

F*&@)ing fantasy football.

286

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Mon, Oct 15, 2012, 16:34

lmao ^ what he said :/

287

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Mon, Oct 15, 2012, 16:40

I'll probably go 1-1 this week, which is better than I deserve.

288

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Mon, Oct 15, 2012, 16:43

I have an 11.92 pt lead in one game, lost the other already. In the game I lead, DPR still has McGahee to go. In 2 of the 5 weeks so far, he has covered the almost 12 pt lead I have. His avg, is just shy of covering it. I do not feel real hopeful, of splitting for 1-1.

289

Tree
ID: 219541516
Mon, Oct 15, 2012, 20:01

oooof...Jahvid Best out for the season. that was money NOT well spent by my team. ugh.

290

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Tue, Oct 16, 2012, 00:19

pending overnight adjustments, McGahee went 9.8, and I go 1-1.

291

Judy
ID: 54203110
Wed, Oct 17, 2012, 00:38

Damoose
On thursday, get your bye guys outta there. Then tweak what you want on the weekend...

292

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 18:23

great, MJD on the sidelines, on crutches....what else can go wrong?

293

Khahan
ID: 57962119
Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 20:07

Do you really want to ask that Sarge?

294

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 21:56

Heh.

Looks like another 1-1 day for me.

295

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 22:35

1 win in the books (sorry Sarge), 1 Brandon Marshall/Peanut Tillman monster game sweat.

296

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 10:06

Ugh, I'm guessing 0-2 this week for me. A single TD pass from Stafford (on 1 opponents team who I have a 1.02 lead over) to Calvin Johnson (on my other opponents team who have a 14 point lead over) pretty much does it. Add in the yards from the pass and a solid TD and I'm done.

Of course, Michael Bush could get a goal line carry for a TD, so I have *some* home, but its slim especially if Forte plays.

297

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 10:37

Ok I may be looking at my first 0-4 week for fantasy football this season. As I said above, slim lead and opponent has Stafford and decent led but opponent has Johnson.

In my money league I have a 16 point lead (which is really good for that league. Typically only QB'score more than 15 points) up 78-62. And my opponent has - Matt Stafford

And in my fun office league I have a 13 point lead (115-102) and my opponent has - - - Calvin Johnson.

298

Tree
ID: 57842011
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 10:54

i'm likely going 1-1 in this league this week - considering the 1-6 start, i'll be more than satisfied with the 7-7 record after this week. my PF are fairly low, which is of concern, but you gotta start somewhere.

i'm still looking to trade Big Ben, or Christian Ponder, if anyone is in need of a solid QB.

299

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 16:13

@K re 293....not to worry. Some of these folks have been in leagues with me in the past. Safest bet on the planet, before game 1 of the season...no less than 1/2 sarges team will be inactive before seasons end.

300

jseth333
ID: 507151215
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 08:05

And I thought Calvin Johnson would deliver me a victory...

301

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 08:58

1-1. All things considered I'll take it this week.

Now, my QB is done w/ his bye. Both my main RB's are done with their bye weeks. I knew I had a lot of starters off here weeks 6-7 but its time to right this ship and start playing again.

302

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 22:44

how fkn much did Smith bid for Jennings? christ...I put $33 or $35, cant remember which, and it wasnt enough.

well...my season is done.

303

damoose
ID: 397221111
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 22:45

I believe it was $52 then $22 for Dwyer

304

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 22:50

I do not like, and will not play again, with a bidding session for F/A. With bids exceeding 1/2 of your seasonal allotment, WTF do you do if you need to replace a 3rd guy?

I may or may not have gotten him with revere order waiver picks, but the tea with 1 loss and leading the league, for damn sure wouldnt have kept another team from competing by getting him.

I'll still set what roster I have, but its be just shy of a bye week. (Not that such hasnt predominantly been the case anyway this year.)

305

fugazi
ID: 40730220
Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 23:40

I'm not a fan of the bids either, just seems like a money league thing. The only reason to use the bid system IMO is to raise the payout.

306

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 19:59

I have a decent shot at handing Smith32 his second loss of the season. Not a huge lead over me right now. He's got 2 players to go, I've got 4.

Tree is even closer, but both of them have 2.

Really really feeling that Thursday night game. Completely forgot about. Would have started Michael Bennett over Kamerion Wimbley in a heartbeat if I was paying attention. Thats 8.5 more points. Could've, should've, would've.

307

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 20:14

new my seasons was pretty much doomed, when in the 'reviews', someone said they thought I had a pretty good shot, with a solid line of starters. lol I NEVER get favorable reviews out of the draft.

308

Tree
ID: 57842011
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 20:54

i've got to have an incredible performance by two linebackers tomorrow night, and hope Colston is shut down. Rodgers sub par game, and Jordy Nelson being hurt, really did a number on me,

309

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 21:03

Yeah, looks unlikely for me as well. Sarge, we're both going back to AA next year, I think!

310

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 21:27

If they stay with bids for FA, I'll be out. I'm with Fugazi, thats a money league thing, and its for increasing the pot for payouts.

311

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 00:31

Ok, so I need 8 points from Calais Campbell Monday night to bring down Smith.

Oh, and thanks for nothing Joel Dreessen. Literally. Nothing. Thats what I got from you. jackass.

312

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 18:03

Kinda liking my chances for 2-0 :)

313

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 18:06

Re: 307: link

314

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 18:14

thought it was you, but couldnt recall for sure :/

315

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 08:42

Oh my! I went to bed with 3:45 left in the game down by 2 points. I won. 5 points out of Calais in the final 3!

316

Judy
ID: 54203110
Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 10:14

The tackles for loss points don't show up until overnight.

317

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sun, Nov 04, 2012, 16:48

So, um, sorry Tree and Syncopats about that unfortunate schedule this week.

318

Khahan
ID: 4410659
Mon, Nov 05, 2012, 10:19

Gwez dwetz. You didn't even have Doug Martin.

319

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Nov 05, 2012, 10:26

I was trying to win the game, not break the website.

320

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Nov 05, 2012, 10:59

Scary thing is (and yes, I'm in full gloat mode, I think I'm entitled for a day or two) is that I BEAT Doug Martin and the Martinettes. By 70.

321

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Mon, Nov 05, 2012, 12:45

Well,I have an outside chance at my first 2-0 in a long time. 19 points from Pierre Thomas. Not impossible, but not likely. At least I'm looking at my first victory ever against Sarge. He spoiled a few good weeks last year by squeaking out with narrow wins if I remember right and he beat me in our first match up this year.

322

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Mon, Nov 05, 2012, 16:07

My apologies, to anyone else who loses a game to me this year. :)

323

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Tue, Nov 06, 2012, 07:58

Man this is a tough league. I've been a top 4 scorer 5 times this season and I've gone 2-0 just once out of those. The rest 1-1.

324

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Tue, Nov 06, 2012, 08:56

Actually looking things over, it seems 3 of us are having a tough time catching breaks.

We're all up there in points for, but we're also top 3 in points against. And they're even worse off with sub-.500 records. And then there's sarge. I've only got about 35 more points than him on the whole season and only .18 more points scored against me but a 5 win difference.

Ouch.

Guess I'll stop my belly aching.

325

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Nov 11, 2012, 18:09

Now this is some good fantasy football. I've opened a lead on Dwetz, but he's far from done with a player going and 2 yet to play.

Twislson and I are literally neck and neck. He's got 2 going with 2 to yet to play. I've got 1 going with 1 yet to play. As of this posting its the slightest edge imaginable to me: 107.94 to 107.24.

Oh yes and this week I drew the teams in 2nd and 3rd place who are also the 2nd and 3rd highest scoring teams in the league (twilson missed highest scoring coming into this week by less than a point). I'm psyched that I'm right there in the thick of it with these guys. Though I think they may be tired of me. I edged out dwetz by 6 points in week 3 and Twilson had to face one of my best weeks in week 4.

Just realized between last week and this week I've faced the top 3 teams in the league, back to back.

326

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Nov 12, 2012, 17:33

Pretty sick sweat for Khahan tonight, down 3 with a defensive player to go. We could have a tie!

327

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Mon, Nov 12, 2012, 19:19

I'm fairly confident Derrick Johnson can nab more than 3 points.

With that said, I need BIG nights from Big Ben and Suisham for my other 2 leagues. Got them both going and in a big deficit in both.

328

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Mon, Nov 12, 2012, 19:20

<--needed a lot more than 3.6 out of his QB :(

329

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Nov 12, 2012, 22:01

"I'm fairly confident Derrick Johnson can nab more than 3 points."

Lost fumbles on onside kick returns one time?

(gg)

330

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 00:09

Well, another 1-1 week in the books here.

331

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Nov 18, 2012, 21:19

Donald Driver, on the bench, 1.20 points and he was the HIGH scoring WR on my squad for the WEEK?!?!?!?!?

332

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sun, Nov 18, 2012, 22:01

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew.

333

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Mon, Nov 19, 2012, 01:49

Sitting pretty. First 2-0 week in a LONG time for me. And in grand fashion. 167 points. Missed a good opportunity for my first week leading the league in scoring. Sproles was supposed to be good to go as of about 11:30 so I switched him in for Pierre Thomas. And DHB was supposedly not going to play as of 11:30. Coin toss between tate and gibson. Threw in tate who had 8 less than gibson (and 2 less than DHB who DID play).

334

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Nov 19, 2012, 10:29

Don't worry, I've got Marshall and Peanut Tillman left. 175 wasn't gonna do it. :)

335

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Mon, Nov 19, 2012, 14:25

Is ok with me Dwetz not being the highest scoring in a week. Would be nice, but just bragging rights. What counts is t his week should vault me up in the standings. Those of us in 4th to 9th place are in a very tight race on record. And to top it off the points for those slots range from 1267 to 1337.

Don't need to be higher than you. Just need to be higher than Donkey, vamp, dpr, fugazi and damoose.

Not going to try and wrap my head around the what-if scenarios. Too many are too close. Just doing what I can to stay out of the consolation bracket again this year.

336

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Nov 19, 2012, 16:52

:)

I hear you. I'm adopting the Al Davis motto too.

Of course, now I'm Gronk-less for a while, which will not help AT ALL. Anyone with a better TE than Scott Chandler that they want to trade, shoot me an offer. (Sarge, I'm looking at you.)

337

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Mon, Nov 19, 2012, 16:54

My 2 TEs. are the only rcving pts I got this past week. Not available.

338

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Nov 19, 2012, 16:57

That's why I could trade you a WR for them!

Then again, my WRs other than Marshall are roughly about as good as either of your TEs, so maybe that doesn't help much.

339

Donkey Hunter
ID: 09201620
Mon, Nov 19, 2012, 19:08

I have Gates and Daniels if you wanna work a trade DWetz.

340

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Nov 19, 2012, 19:23

Hmmmmmmm. Maaaaaaybe.

341

Tree
ID: 57842011
Tue, Nov 20, 2012, 00:50

Aldon Smith is a BEAST!!!

34 points? that's got to be some kind of record - has any IDP in the history of RIFC scored that many points in one game?!!?

342

Donkey Hunter
ID: 09201620
Tue, Nov 20, 2012, 06:58

Shaun Phillips 32.5 seems to be the previous high from the last 2 season.

343

Donkey Hunter
ID: 377261315
Tue, Nov 20, 2012, 15:59

Lots of free agents had big weeks this week. Just looking at the top scorers you could put together a team that scored 295.42.

QB Henne 30.86
RB Powell 18
RB Parmalee 8.3
WR Edelman 37.20
WR Martin 20.86
TE Graham 20.20
TE/WR Watson 16.7
K Scobee 16
DL Mosley 18.5
DL Fairley 17.5
LB Ninkovich 19
LB Davis 15
DB Cox 21
DB Mckelvin 19.8
DB Jones 16.5

344

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Nov 25, 2012, 20:31

Here's praying for 2 TD's to Greg Olsen tonight. Could go 2-0, but more likely 1-1.

Need 29 points between Cam and Olsen to beat DH tonight who is done. Up by .9 on PD who is done.

345

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Nov 25, 2012, 20:57

wow, thats weird. My LIVE SCORING screen, shows PD ahead of you by 5.8 with 52m left on 1 player, while you have 2 to go.

346

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Nov 25, 2012, 22:01

My live scoring shows that too now with randall cobb going. But when I looked earlier I swear I swear he was done. I must have looked at something wrong.

347

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Nov 26, 2012, 15:01

Consolation to self: Well, if you're going to get scheduled against the top two point gainers for the week, doing it on a week your team sucks anyway is a good way to lessen the blow?

348

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Tue, Nov 27, 2012, 08:18

Back to back 2-0 weeks feels good. Still not out of the water yet though because there are so many teams being very competitive.

Smith32 and Twilson and Dwetz are in on records. Dwetz is at 15 wins. I could pass him. Out of Donkey, Vamp and DPR who could possibly tie his record a) none of them will catch him in points. And b) If by some miracle they do, Donkey and Vamp play each other this week. That means out of the 4 potential teams that could go 2-0 to pass or tie dwetz, 1 of them cant 2-0. So he's guaranteed at least 6th as a worse case scenario.

That leaves me, Donkey Hunters, Vampire Weekend, DPR and Goatlocker (who must go 2-0 have me go 0-2 and everybody else do no better than 1-1) fighting for the last 3 spots. I play vampire (ohh, rough schedule for him all contenders in week 13).

Then there are 2 spots left for the highest point total. We've got even more fighting for those last 2 spots. Aside from the 5 contending for the top 6 there are:
Fugazi at 1593.9
Syncopats at 1597.74 (second highest scored against)
and the top 6 contenders:
vampire weekend: 1635.56
Goatlocker: 1602.64
khahan: 1597.14
dpr: 1576.92
donkey: 1543.40

Do I have that all figured out right? Seems like a real cluster we have here.

349

Jseth333
ID: 249131821
Tue, Nov 27, 2012, 15:25

I definitely need to talk to the schedule maker - it is going to be close...

350

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Tue, Nov 27, 2012, 16:13

Really J, almost all you need to do is have a solid # of points. Even if you go 0-2, if you score enough, you should get in on the final 2 spots.

I think you're spot is pretty secure as long as you have a solid week (maybe 130 points). Even if you go 0-2, you'll have enough points for one of the two finals. If you go 1-1 or 2-0 you should get in on W-L.

To be honest, fugazi and syncopats worry me the most. If I go 1-1, i'm pretty sure I'm in on w/l. But if not, a big points week from either of them could knock any one of us competing for top 6 completely out if we fail to reach top 6.

They've both got very good teams to field and are quite capable of a good fight. Bottom line - it all comes down to this: Final week and we have 7 teams competing for 5 spots. Very fun and very competitive league.

351

Donkey Hunter
ID: 377261315
Tue, Nov 27, 2012, 16:26

Ugh, 0-2 week dropped me from the 4 seed to the 10 seed. Tough league.

352

Jseth333
ID: 249131821
Tue, Nov 27, 2012, 16:56

Agree - has been fun. Hopefully this will not be one of my scoring clunker weeks.

353

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Fri, Nov 30, 2012, 10:28

Well, turner and sproles did decent for me. When turner put out that early TD I was really hoping he'd keep it going in turn in a 20 pt game. But I won't complain about my backs each turning double digit performances.

My IDP's on the other hand were a big let down. I think my idp corps is one if not the best in the league and to only get 5.5 points combined from 2 of them is going to hurt. If Calais Campbell ends up being able to play this week and turns in a solid performance I'm going to be mighty ticked at this thursday night game and Smiths 2.5 pt performance.

354

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Fri, Nov 30, 2012, 11:13

A solid start -- I need all the help I can get with Gronk out. I'm just hoping to hold on until he can make his playoff appearance like he's the surprise #30 in the Royal Rumble.

355

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sun, Dec 02, 2012, 19:22

Apparently, Gronk may be unnecessary.

356

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Dec 02, 2012, 20:25

More than disappointed with my evening starters. 8 points from 3 starters in the 4pm game including Eric Decker who I expected a big game from and Brandon Tate who I expcted, well more than 3.84 points from. Dropped to Vamp Weekend and vulnerable to Tree, though its a long climb for him, but not impossible with 3 players (2 offensive) starting still.

And I'm getting pressure from vamp, dpr and donkey hunter, all 3.

357

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Mon, Dec 03, 2012, 10:39

Stuff I should maybe know but don't: how does playoff seeding (not playoff qualification, which I am led to understand is a different question) work?

TWilson is down 52 to me but has RG3, Cruz, and JPP left to my D'Angelo Hall. I'm pretty sure he'll win his other game with those three, which puts him 1 game up with our game to play. So I assume it comes down to total points? In which case he needs to make up 49 points to pass me, not 52.

The more interesting question to me is are we going to be seeded ahead of or behind Smith32, who will (probably) have the #1 record but the #3 point total. And who gets the RIFC qualifying spot, the top point total or the top record?

(I started to look at the race for the other playoff spots, but now I have a headache.)

358

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Mon, Dec 03, 2012, 11:41

Actually Dwetz, I think the playoffs are done except for the 7th and 8th. I think its smith, you, vamp, me, twilson and dpr.

Tonight's game is needed to figure out the highest 2 point totals because those guys are all close.

359

twilson
ID: 221142214
Mon, Dec 03, 2012, 14:53

I believe that RIFC berths have historically gone to the top two teams by record, along with the playoff champion. If the playoff champ is one of the top two seeds, then #3 would get the third slot. With that said, I don't think that it's ever been codified beyond "Whatever Guru decides." Thus, assuming you beat me this week (pretty darn likely), I will be hoping that we don't have a surprise playoff champ!

This year has been interesting because each of the three of us will lead the league in a major category. Smith32 has the best record, you have most points, and I'll have the best all-play record.

360

damoose
ID: 397221111
Mon, Dec 03, 2012, 22:32

I have removed everyone's ability to perform waiver wire. I will be setting up the playoff bracket and getting all the settings ready as soon as I get the email regarding this information. If you have any questions, please email me.

361

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Tue, Dec 04, 2012, 00:47

I am SO glad, this season is OVER...and I can quit shooting myself in the foot. :/

362

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Tue, Dec 04, 2012, 12:23

Playoff teams*, their draft slots and their first round selections:

1. Smith32 - 11th Matt Forte
2. DWetz - 13th Rob Gronkowski
3. Twilson - 1st Arian Foster
4. Vampire Weekend - 8th Calvin Johnson
5. Khahan - 14th - Cam Newton
6. DPR - 12th Jimmy Graham
7. Syncopats - 10th Darren McFadden
8. Goatlocker - 9th Chris Johnson

* - order of finish, not necessarily seeding

So picks 1, and 8-14 made it in.
4 RB, 1 QB, 1 WR and 2 TE picks made it in.

Out of all first round picks, 4 QB's were taken, 1 made it in. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers were the top point getters for all 1st round picks but none of them are in (Cam Newton was 4th).

MJD, Darren McFadden, Matt Forte and LeSean McCoy were the 4 lowest point gainers from round 1. 2 of them (McFadden/Forte) made it in.

The only teams to trade this season did so during the draft and both teams made it in (in fact I think w/out that trade I may not have made it, Smith would have been fine either way).

Only 3 of the 8 playoff teams had a QB by the end of round 3.

363

Tree
ID: 191139411
Tue, Dec 04, 2012, 12:39

thanks for doing that Khahan. for me, in a league this large, i think the Banzai draft style is a killer. i won't be picking early any more.

additionally, i screwed up by wrongly guessing i could draft Big Ben, and trade him later. that turned out to be a wasted pick for me.

364

dpr
ID: 9513258
Tue, Dec 04, 2012, 12:55

Looks like in the other AAA league all teams picking among the top 6 made it in. Very different from ours.

365

Perm Dude
ID: 201027169
Tue, Dec 04, 2012, 13:10

McCoy killed me. And my unfamiliarity with the blind bid process. A frustrating season.

366

Tree
ID: 191139411
Tue, Dec 04, 2012, 13:17

And my unfamiliarity with the blind bid process. A frustrating season.

this too. hated it then, still hate it...

367

damoose
ID: 21129412
Tue, Dec 04, 2012, 13:29

Playoff teams are the top 6 by W/L record, plus the two remaining teams with the highest point totals (Syncopats and Goatlocker). Here are the seeds for the championship bracket:

1. Smith32
2. Touch Me and Ill sue
3. twilson
4. Vampire Weekend
5. Syncopats
6. Goatlocker
7. Khahan
8. dpr

Teams 5-8 were seeded based on total points.

Championship playoff teams may now submit blind bids as usual. All other teams are locked out from any add/drop/waiver moves for the rest of the season.

In order to adjust blind bidding "arsenals" for the playoffs, I increased the season max from 100 to 116. I then added 2 to the YTD blind bids used for team #2, 4 for team #3, etc. The result is that team #1 has the full $16 available, in addition to any amounts leftover from the regular season. Team #2 has an extra $14 to work with, team #3 has $12, etc.

I set up a custom waiver wire wire order, which I believe will award any blind bid ties to the team with the best seed. Hopefully this will work as expected - but we need to monitor this if it comes into play.

Teams not in the championship bracket have been seeded into the consolation bracket. Since there are only six teams, the first round loser with the highest point total will advance to round two. Pairings will be adjusted if needed to avoid a repeat matchup.

Let me know if anything is unclear, or if it looks like I haven't setup anything properly.

368

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Dec 09, 2012, 14:51

Pretty tight race with Dwetz so far. He's up but I'm feeling confident after the 1st half of the early games. He's up 83-64 but he has 13 players going right now to my 7.

Cam Newton is a beast for me this week. Adrian Peterson is putting up huge numbers for Dwetz (and I'm facing peterson in 2 of my 3 leagues in the R1 of the playoffs.

369

DWetzel
ID: 25740420
Sun, Dec 09, 2012, 20:26

Bleh, gg, though it feels harsh to be going out with what might be the #2 point total for the week.

370

sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sun, Dec 09, 2012, 21:42

bleh...my guys played just well enough all season, to make sure they got their asses handed to them. :/

371

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Dec 09, 2012, 22:18

I hear ya Dwetz. This is a rough week all around. I've got 3 leagues, looks like I may be 2-1. The 2 wins probably the highest score in each league and the loss....2nd highest score.

You've definitely been one of the toughest matchups for everybody all season and have a great team.

372

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Tue, Dec 11, 2012, 00:42

Wow, great matches this week. 2 of them decided by less than 3 points (and 1 by less than 1 point!).

Looks like next up for me is Twilson.

I tell you this is no easy path to victory. R1 of the playoffs I get Dwetz, the highest scoring team in the regular season. R2, I get Twilson, the second highest scoring team in the regular season. And when I put him down I'm either getting Smith, the 3rd highest or Vamp, the 4th highest from regular season.

Line 'em up. Here I come. I've emailed my buddy Cam and told him to put my team on his shoulders.

373

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Tue, Dec 11, 2012, 00:52

Where can I see how much each team has left in blind bidding $?

374

twilson
ID: 322401523
Tue, Dec 11, 2012, 01:30

Khahan, I see it on my front page in the box labeled "Blind Bid Summary." I'm not sure where else to find it, but you can set up your MFL home page to include that box if nobody has a better answer. Looking forward to our matchup in the semis.

Glad to see that I survived tonight despite a one-pointer from Brandon Spikes (although I could've sworn that Mayo's first credited tackle was actually made by Spikes!). Good effort by the Goons, always a tough team to beat.

375

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Tue, Dec 11, 2012, 09:29

Thanks Wilson. I found it after I went into my league set up and had to add it. The tip from you helped a lot.

And yes, looking forward to another match up. I don't mind the tough road. Makes me feel like I'm earning what I get.

If you haven't done so, check out the write up that mfl puts up on each match up. Its pretty amusing.

376

Judy
ID: 54203110
Wed, Dec 12, 2012, 15:47

I will again be running the playoff game by MFL. The basic rule is that you can use each player (QB, RB, WR, TE, K, DST once over the course of the playoffs.

So. For example, if you use both Brady and Rodgers in their first games you cannot use them again and might be without a QB for the super Bowl. So ya gotta plan.

I will send out my info when our fantasy season is over, but wanted you to know that your fantasy fix can continue!

Watch this space for announcements. Last year I think we had ~ 20 teams (you can have two!)

377

Jseth333
ID: 249131821
Thu, Dec 13, 2012, 22:17

I am no expert, but Dalton probably needs to do better than -.96 in the second half for me to have any kind of chance this week...

378

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Dec 16, 2012, 13:38

Twilson and I are slugging it out already. Not even half way thru the first quarter and 3 TDs between our teams already.

379

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Dec 16, 2012, 22:18

Interesting night for me. Decent lead over Twilson but he's got an IDP going and I've got Steven Gostkowski.

In my money league going to see who advances I have a semi decent lead over my opponent and he's got...steven gostkowski.

In my other league I lost last week and am just going for a consolation bracket I've got a semi-decent lead and my opponent has....Steven Gostkowski. Basically he needs to score less than 11 but can't be outscored by Brandon spikes by more than 10.

380

Khahan
ID: 54138190
Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 15:40

1 quarter to go and Smith and I are all but done. We each have 2 players left. TE and an IDP for him, 2 WR for me. Been maintaining a 20-30 point lead thru most of the day so far.

381

Smith32
ID: 357191213
Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 21:25

Congrats Khahan

382

Khahan
ID: 39432178
Mon, Dec 24, 2012, 09:09

Thanks Smith. It was a long day watching this match. And at the end you kept creeping up a bit closer and a bit closer.

But I'm glad to finally have my first Invitational championship! Tough playoff road, too. Had to topple the #3, 2 and 1 seeds.

383

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Mon, Dec 24, 2012, 12:13

Congrats Khahan.
Nice job.
Was actually a pretty good season.
Kinda crazy, but nothing new with these leagues.

384

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Tue, Jan 01, 2013, 12:15

The 2012 MFL NFL Playoff Challenge is up and running.

The basic rule is that you can use each player (QB, RB, WR, TE, K, DST only once over the course of the playoffs.

So. For example, if you use both Brady and Rodgers in their first games you cannot use them again and might be without a QB for the super Bowl. So ya gotta plan.

Invitations to last year's managers were sent out today.

If you do not want to play this year, please let me know and I will delete your team(s). If you have (non RIFC) friends who want to play, have them email me (swimichel@mac.com) and I will send out an invitation.

You can have up to two teams!

Last year's winner was Promizedawgs, with s_R second and Crabby Bills came in third.

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