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Posted by: Promize
- [7752210] Wed, Aug 08, 2012, 11:50

Everything we want to discuss and talk about for this year. Rules, trash talk, etc etc.

As of now:

Keeper deadline: 8/19/2012
Slow Draft start: 8/20/2012
Slow Draft End: 9/3/2012

Managers:

BaltimoreDopesmokers
Beware of the Dougs
Chicago Serbs
Chucktaylors
Frick
GoatLockers Goons
Promize
Who Dat
The Graham Crackerz
Wiggs
1Promize
      ID: 7752210
      Wed, Aug 08, 2012, 11:55
Current Rosters:

Promize
A.J. Feeley
A.J. Green
Brandon Lloyd
Carson Palmer
Cedric Benson
Devin Hester
Jackie Battle
Joe Flacco
Knowshon Moreno
Marion Barber
Mark Ingram
Michael Bush
Owen Daniels
Roy Helu
Sam Bradford
Stevie Johnson

The Graham Crackerz
LeGarrette Blount
Brad Smith
C.J. Spiller
Caleb Hanie
Fred Jackson
Jamaal Charles
James Jones
Jay Cutler
Jimmy Graham
Julio Jones
Mark Sanchez
Matthew Stafford
Mike Williams
Percy Harvin
Reggie Bush
Santana Moss
Shane Vereen


Chucktaylors
Doug Baldwin
Anquan Boldin
Brandon Pettigrew
Felix Jones
Josh Freeman
Kellen Winslow
Lance Moore
Legedu Naanee
Matt Cassel
Matt Moore
Nate Washington
Peyton Hillis
Phillip Tanner
Ryan Grant
Ryan Mathews
Steve Smith
Victor Cruz


Wiggs
Joseph Addai
Brandon Marshall
Calvin Johnson
Cam Newton
Dan Orlovsky
DeMarco Murray
Jonathan Stewart
Malcom Floyd
Matt Forte
Michael Crabtree
Pierre Garcon
Scott Chandler
Shonn Greene
Tim Tebow
Tony Gonzalez
Wes Welker


Chicago Serbs
Deion Branch
Antonio Gates
Ben Roethlisberger
Charlie Whitehurst
DeAngelo Williams
Ed Dickson
Greg Jennings
Josh McCown
Larry Fitzgerald
Mario Manningham
Maurice Morris
Mike Tolbert
Peyton Manning
Pierre Thomas
Tarvaris Jackson
Vincent Jackson


Frick
Miles Austin
Andre Roberts
Blaine Gabbert
Brandon Jacobs
Danny Woodhead
Drew Brees
Frank Gore
Hakeem Nicks
Jahvid Best
Javon Ringer
Jermaine Gresham
Jermichael Finley
Marques Colston
Michael Jenkins
Michael Vick
Robert Meachem


GoatLockers Goons
Arrelious Benn
Aaron Rodgers
Ahmad Bradshaw
Alex Smith
D.J. Ware
Dwayne Bowe
Eric Decker
LaDainian Tomlinson
LeSean McCoy
Marshawn Lynch
Mike Thomas
Philip Rivers
Reggie Wayne
Rob Gronkowski
Willis McGahee


Beware of the Dougs
Kahlil Bell
Donald Brown
Jason Campbell
Brent Celek
Jabar Gaffney
DeSean Jackson
Maurice Jones-Drew
Christian Ponder
Ray Rice
Matt Ryan
Brandon Saine
Torrey Smith
James Starks
Demaryius Thomas
Mike Wallace
Ricky Williams
T.J. Yates


Who DAT
John Beck
Andy Dalton
Antonio Brown
Dallas Clark
David Nelson
Devery Henderson
Heath Miller
Jared Cook
Kyle Orton
Matt Hasselbeck
Nate Burleson
Roy Williams
Steve Breaston
Steven Jackson
Thomas Jones
Tim Hightower
Todd Heap


BaltimoreDopesmokers
Lance Ball
Earl Bennett
Tom Brady
Vernon Davis
Braylon Edwards
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Dustin Keller
Eli Manning
Dexter McCluster
Darren McFadden
Rashard Mendenhall
Laurent Robinson
Darren Sproles
Daniel Thomas
Roddy White
Damian Williams
2Promize
      ID: 7752210
      Wed, Aug 08, 2012, 11:59
Final Standings:

*1. BaltimoreDopesmokers
*2. Beware of the Dougs
*3. wiggs
*4. GoatLockers Goons
*5. Barilko6
*6. BuryMeWithMyGunsOn
7 OCHO CINCO
8 Frick
9 Chicago Serbs
10 Suck For Luck
11 Chucktaylors
12 Who DAT

So, if we use the play-off standings to invert for the draft, the draft order should be:

1 Who DAT
2 Chucktaylors
3 Suck For Luck
4 Chicago Serbs
5 Frick
6 OCHO CINCO
7 GoatLockers Goons
8 wiggs
9 Beware of the Dougs
10 BaltimoreDopesmokers
3The graham crackers
      ID: 48713212
      Wed, Aug 08, 2012, 12:37
My keepers:

M. Stafford
J. Cutler
J. Graham
J. Charles
F. Jackson
4wiggs
      ID: 40601413
      Wed, Aug 08, 2012, 14:40
wait, is graham crackers playing? I thought they were out of the league?
5wiggs
      ID: 40601413
      Wed, Aug 08, 2012, 14:44
I have some decent keepers available for trade if anyone is looking to improve their keepers
6wiggs
      ID: 40601413
      Wed, Aug 08, 2012, 14:44
could move
Brandon Marshall
Demarco Murray
Wes Welker
7russelldl
      ID: 206493120
      Wed, Aug 08, 2012, 21:56
Ok, I'm gonna continue the Bears tradition and name the league after Dick Butkus this year.
8JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Thu, Aug 09, 2012, 23:33
You da man Russel! Bear Down!

By the looks of my team, I vote that I get an extra pick... geez wtf was I smoking.. its fn terrible!
9JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Thu, Aug 09, 2012, 23:35
Any way we can get the official rules of the league posted? I know we are still talking trading them, but a little refresher would be nice. IE: How many keepers, do you have to keep a certain amount? do you get supplemental picks if you keep less etc..

10JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Thu, Aug 09, 2012, 23:37
My Tentative Keepers (I think we keep 5 right?)

Big Ben
Peyton Manning
Larry Fitzgerald
Vincent Jackson
Greg Jennings


(wow I don't have 1 single RB to keep.) Side note.. anyone even think Deangelo Williams is worth keeping? I guess it all depends on the rules of the league.
11JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Thu, Aug 09, 2012, 23:45
I along with Wiggs am willing to deal some of my keepers. I don't want to get to far ahead of everything until we get the rules set, but it looks like I have to let go of some pretty good guys. IE: Gates

Wiggs maybe we can talk! Gimme some RB's :) please?
12russelldl
      ID: 206493120
      Fri, Aug 10, 2012, 02:10
The keeper rules have been that you keep 5, no more than 2 at any position.
13wiggs
      ID: 40601413
      Fri, Aug 10, 2012, 02:23
I am still not finding the trade that was made where nola lost his 1st round pick, can someone confirm what the trade was?
14Frick
      ID: 14082314
      Fri, Aug 10, 2012, 09:54
Most likely keepers.

Michael Vick
Drew Brees
Miles Austin
Frank Gore
Hakeem Nicks

15Promize
      ID: 7752210
      Fri, Aug 10, 2012, 09:57
Wiggs, wasn't for this year, was the previous year and previous owner of the team.

For this year, I don't see any trades or have head of any trades for picks made.

Basically, when NOLA came to the league he inherited a team that had no starting QB's, finished in last place AND traded his 1st round pick away.

So couple managers in the league felt that he could grab a pre-draft pick as a keeper to help balance his team a little bit and be competitive in the league.
16Promize
      ID: 7752210
      Fri, Aug 10, 2012, 09:59
Votes are in:

9-1 Say Yes on extra pick for NOLA
9-1 Say Yes on adjustment for WR's scoring
8-2 Say start date of 8/20/2012
17JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Fri, Aug 10, 2012, 15:38
regarding post 12:

That sucks, I guess I have to change my keepers than... Looks like im holding 3 WR's...

Anyone looking for Vincent Jackson? Stud Stud Stud!
18Doug
      ID: 3272116
      Sat, Aug 11, 2012, 07:02
Are we also in agreement on doing it snake-style this year due to the unusual # of quality players being put back in the pool?
19JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Sun, Aug 12, 2012, 01:26
@18.. I don't know.. Even with the unusual amount being put back, the rules changes etc, there are still a few teams that are STACKED. Going to snake, I still think those teams would be by far the favorites again. I see your point though Doug. That is why I was thinking total redraft with the 10 man league. That would solve all problems regarding everything, but we have moved passed that I suppose.

It is def a good questions/debate tho.
20Promize
      ID: 7752210
      Sun, Aug 12, 2012, 12:00
I didn't do the snake, just straight. With 10 teams, I don't think it will be to unbalanced. If it was 12 teams, then I think would be the appropriate draft.

We can vote on it though, but my guess it is going to be 50/50 split with no majority...
21Promize
      ID: 7752210
      Sun, Aug 12, 2012, 12:00
Also, not sure I can reset Kafenited now that it is set.
22JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Sun, Aug 12, 2012, 13:37
@21 you could get it reset, but it is a pain in the ass.. Especially if you already paid for it. Ya have to talk to Fred, KrazyKoalaBears his name was I believe back when these forums were popular. I have used his site since the beginning. It has gotten a lot better, but there isn't a reset button. That I do know. Not after you started everything etc. I agree I think the vote would be split and for the sake of anything if we were to vote, I would say the vote is make the draft snake or a total reset, tbh. Just my 2 cents
23Doug
      ID: 3272116
      Sun, Aug 12, 2012, 21:12
Not a big deal to me, was just asking since it was part of the email thread where we discussed all the other things that we voted on, wanted to be clear on what our decision was on that.
24russelldl
      ID: 206493120
      Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 16:40
Am I missing why snake would be better than straight? My team is stacked and I have the 10th pick and 20th pick. If you snake, I'll have the 10th and 11th.
25wiggs
      ID: 40601413
      Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 20:24
because there are too many players going back into the pool. It makes for way too much of an advantage to a team that finished last. As of now we are giving Nola a free pick before the draft, the 1.1 pick and the 2.1 pick giving him 3 of the top 12 pick.

2 years ago we played a league were 2 teams folder and the 10 and 9 place teams finished 1 and 2 the next year because the draft was too stacked.
26wiggs
      ID: 40601413
      Wed, Aug 15, 2012, 11:30
still looking to move
Welker or marshall
shonn Greene
27 ChuckT
      ID: 537421510
      Wed, Aug 15, 2012, 11:43
KEEPERS
QB Freeman
QB Cassel
WR Cruz
WR Smith (Carolina)
RB Matthews
28GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Wed, Aug 15, 2012, 22:19
KEEPERS
Aaron Rodgers QB
LeSean McCoy RB
Rob Gronkowski TE
Marshawn Lynch RB
Philip Rivers QB
29the graham crackerz
      ID: 45758169
      Thu, Aug 16, 2012, 10:58
My official keepers

Matthew Stafford
Jay Cutler
Jimmy Graham
Julio Jones
Jamal Charles

30JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Fri, Aug 17, 2012, 11:39
I dont know if we were supposed to post of keepers on here or not, I just did it in Yahoo as it said, but I guess I will follow everyone else.

Keepers

Peyton Manning
Ben Roe.
Larry Fitzgerald
Greg Jennings (This might be VJAX if Jennings concussion terms into a big deal before we official have to determine our keepers)
Antonio Gates

JT
31Doug
      ID: 387141814
      Sat, Aug 18, 2012, 15:25
QB M Ryan
RB M Jones-Drew
RB R Rice
WR M Wallace
WR D Thomas
32GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Aug 18, 2012, 17:34
Won't let me look at keepers in the league for anyone but myself.
Posting them here would also be good.
Thanks.
33russelldl
      ID: 206493120
      Sat, Aug 18, 2012, 22:38
Baltimore Dopesmokers
Tom Brady
Eli Manning
Roddy White
Darren McFadden
Darren Sproles
34JTSERB
      Donor
      ID: 481020120
      Sun, Aug 19, 2012, 11:35
@32

Goat, on kafenatined once the draft starts, whomever is running it will have all the keepers on the teams already, they will be removed from the pool of available players. There is a link with a pop up grid of who has what player broken down to by position. If that helps any.
35GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Aug 19, 2012, 13:19
@34, I know that, was trying to get things set up ahead of time.
36 russelldl
      ID: 206493120
      Sun, Aug 19, 2012, 22:31
FYI
I'll be on the road tomorrow (monday) until about 4pm. I'll have my phone but I don't think I can make picks from it. If anyone sees the draft hanging on my pick, please email me. I'll check tomorrow to see if I can set up a queue but the draft's not up yet. Also, I don't know all of the keepers so I can't make a list yet.
37GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Aug 19, 2012, 23:32
@36
Same situation.
If it isn't up before I leave to work around 7 AM PDT, won't be back until around 5 or 6 PM.
38Promize
      ID: 447211612
      Mon, Aug 20, 2012, 07:02
Sorry sorry,
I'm here all day, can leave queues with me at my email or with drafttime.
39wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Aug 20, 2012, 08:05
Promize- i think you have an extra pick in there for Doug- Wallace Miles
40GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Mon, Aug 20, 2012, 09:42
OK, I have queues set for 1st and 2nd round.
Not willing to do third yet without seeing where I am at.
41Promize
      ID: 447211612
      Mon, Aug 20, 2012, 10:13
Fixed, thanks Wiggs, I thought it fixed that yesterday when it first showed up, but some reason it didn't delete him.
42wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 09:15
That was crazy- before bed i put in a queue with 3 tight ends thinking there were only 3 picks before me, 1 should make it through. all three went back to back to back
43Frick
      ID: 14082314
      Thu, Aug 23, 2012, 09:58
I probably didn't need to take a TE, but looking at the following round and knowing that 2 people needed a TE1 and everyone needed a back-up TE, it made sense to take one as the drop off at this point in TEs is starting to get pronounced. I think there are a number of guys who could end up as top 6 or 7 TEs still left, but are far from sure things.

Now, can I start a run on kickers.
44GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 10:54
Are we paused for the weekend?
Guess I must have missed that.
45GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 13:03
OK, I see it on draftime now and saw the email.
I have both queues filled, so doesn't matter at all to me.
46wiggs
      ID: 1768158
      Sat, Aug 25, 2012, 14:40
I want Terrell Owens but he isn't on kafe I will take Chris Owens but it is really to
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