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0 Subject: 2014 DST G24 points proposal for voting.

Posted by: Judy
- [54203110] Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 21:36

Your vote:

YES = adopt points system in #1
NO = keep DST points the same as 2013
1Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 21:37


Total Points Allowed 0-5. 10
Total Points Allowed 6-10. 5
Total Points Allowed 11-14 4
Total Points Allowed 15-15 3
Total Points Allowed 16-16 2
Total Points Allowed 17-17 1
Total Points Allowed 18-24 0
Total Points Allowed 25-30 -1
Total Points Allowed 31-36 -2
Total Points Allowed 37-42 -3
Total Points Allowed 43-48 -4
Total Points Allowed 49-99 -5


Total Net Yards Allowed 0-199 2.5
Total Net Yards Allowed 200-224 2
Total Net Yards Allowed 225-249 1.5
Total Net Yards Allowed 250-274 1
Total Net Yards Allowed 275-299 .5
Total Net Yards Allowed 300-374 0
Total Net Yards Allowed 375-424 -.5
Total Net Yards Allowed 425-449 -1
Total Net Yards Allowed 450-499 -1.5
Total Net Yards Allowed 500-549 -2
Total Net Yards Allowed 550-999 -2.5
2GO
      ID: 344132921
      Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 21:42
YES
3Doug
      ID: 166331713
      Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 21:45
NO
4Doug
      ID: 166331713
      Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 21:46
(I'd certainly vote for the other options we discussed though)
5Tree
      ID: 438482411
      Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 21:49
i don't know what it was originally, but i'm not in favor of negative points beginning with 25. i'm also not in favor of a "double penalty", that being hit with negative points for both yards allowed AND points allowed (especially since it's entirely possible for a defense to allow zero points, yet still be penalized because their QB threw some pick sixes and there were some kick/punt returns for TDs).

NO
6 CT - Cleveland
      ID: 497561720
      Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 21:56
No


7Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 21:58
Yes

Tree, if you vote no, we are staying with our current values here:

here are our current point values for scoring of total points by the offense:

Total Points Allowed 0-0 21
Total Points Allowed 1-5 14
Total Points Allowed 6-10 10
Total Points Allowed 11-14 7
Total Points Allowed 15-15 6
Total Points Allowed 16-16 5
Total Points Allowed 17-17 4
Total Points Allowed 18-18 3
Total Points Allowed 19-19 2
Total Points Allowed 20-20 1
Total Points Allowed 21-24 0
Total Points Allowed 25-28 -1
Total Points Allowed 29-35 -3
Total Points Allowed 36-42 -5
Total Points Allowed 43-49 -7
Total Points Allowed 50-99 -10

Here are our points for yardage allowed:
Total Net Yards Allowed 0-149 3.5
Total Net Yards Allowed 150-174 3
Total Net Yards Allowed 175-199 2.5
Total Net Yards Allowed 200-224 2
Total Net Yards Allowed 225-249 1.5
Total Net Yards Allowed 250-274 1
Total Net Yards Allowed 275-299 .5
Total Net Yards Allowed 300-349 0
Total Net Yards Allowed 350-374 -.5
Total Net Yards Allowed 375-399 -1
Total Net Yards Allowed 400-424 -1.5
Total Net Yards Allowed 425-449 -2
Total Net Yards Allowed 450-474 -2.5
Total Net Yards Allowed 475-499 -3
Total Net Yards Allowed 500-999 -3.5
8Tree
      ID: 438482411
      Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 22:01
ah jeez. one is the frying pan, the other is the fire.

changing my vote to YES...sorry about that confusion.
9Nerfherders
      ID: 1511182416
      Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 22:44
No

Penalizes the good defenses too much.
10Valkyrie
      ID: 12758217
      Mon, Aug 18, 2014, 00:08
No
11beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Mon, Aug 18, 2014, 00:13
Yes
12mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Mon, Aug 18, 2014, 00:31
NO

As long as D/STs are still penalized for points that they didn't actually allow, (QB threw pick sixes and kick/punt returns for TDs, we should make no changes.
14Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Mon, Aug 18, 2014, 04:13
No
15Promizeone
      ID: 347171713
      Mon, Aug 18, 2014, 07:01
No
16TD
      ID: 34717722
      Mon, Aug 18, 2014, 08:20
Yes
17VampireWeekend
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Aug 18, 2014, 09:01
Yes
18skinneej
      ID: 14911313
      Mon, Aug 18, 2014, 12:46
Yes
19PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Mon, Aug 18, 2014, 13:37
No
20youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Mon, Aug 18, 2014, 14:35
Yes
21Building 7
      ID: 167151020
      Mon, Aug 18, 2014, 19:08
Yes
22Frick
      ID: 205591421
      Mon, Aug 18, 2014, 20:26
Yes
23deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 19, 2014, 08:29
reconsidered & changing vote to Yes
24Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Tue, Aug 19, 2014, 10:13
Yes, this helps, but I still prefer to adopt youngroman option in the other thread.

I just reviewed last years discussion and research and this helps, but at what cost? I think we will see an explosion on offense this year if the refs keep calling the games the same way in the regular season.
25Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Tue, Aug 19, 2014, 10:33
OK Looks like the Tally when throwing out Tree's changed vote in 5 is 12 Yes and 8 No.

The next Yes vote would end the vote. If there isn't 13 Yes votes by the time this vote ends, it will be defeated. Four have yet to vote.
26Slizz
      ID: 306452010
      Tue, Aug 19, 2014, 14:35
No
27WG
      ID: 34021519
      Tue, Aug 19, 2014, 18:30
Yes
28Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Tue, Aug 19, 2014, 20:11
OK this vote has passed as well.
29Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Tue, Aug 19, 2014, 20:50
We will change the points in mfl this week.
30Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 16726219
      Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 10:26
yes, for the record.
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