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0 Subject: 2014 G24 DRAFT DISCUSSION

Posted by: judy
- Dude [7771722] Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 18:04

FIRE AWAY.
1deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 18:59
Are we on the clock (culmulative?) yet or are we just drafting.lol
2Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 19:00
As far as I know just drafting... No idea. I am sure ref knows. But for now no clock...
3Tree
      ID: 438482411
      Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 19:11
as i understand it, there isn't a clock yet.

imho, i really do want to see what happens in this weekend's games before picking.

i know that's terribly disappointing to everyone, but i would be hellapissed to pick someone, only to have him get hurt.

obviously, it's down to 2 people for me. i just need to figure which one, so unless i get a wild hair up my butt, or there is a clock, i won't likely pick until after this weekend's games.
4Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 20:16
Typically we start the clock at 6pm today and we often open it earlier with no clock. Unfortunately we have 24 teams and 11 rounds to get through. As nice as it would be to go through the weekend un-timed, since we otherwise will not have picks come on and we would have to drop it to a couple hour time limit, we will likely have to turn the clock on tonight. Will send an email to all as well when we determine what we need to do.
5Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 20:23
We need to wait for the third week games to be finished!
6mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 21:09
MFL drafts go faster than you think.
7Doug
      ID: 166331713
      Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 21:10
Per posts 51 and 82 of preseason thread, draft starts today.

What's this waiting for week 3 games all of a sudden?

If we aren't starting today as previously indicated, then I guess undo my pick and let me know when we're actually starting (it will be the same pick barring injury).
8Doug
      ID: 166331713
      Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 21:22
But I think we either start it now / Friday AM and just roll with it, or else would have to wait until Monday AM after all games complete. I'd say stick with the plan and get the thing moving.
9deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 22:18
agree with Doug. We need to follow the rules.
10Tree
      ID: 438482411
      Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 22:21
agree with Doug. We need to follow the rules.

i'm baffled as to why we start so early?

i realize i'm new here, but i don't know too many drafts that start before the week 3 games.

in a league as deep as this, a top draft pick going down before the season even starts can devastate your season.

in the week or so i've been part of this league, i've seen numerous things brought up for discussion and vote.

i'd like to see the draft start time be brought up for discussion and vote, and i believe we should start on the Monday after the third weekend of games.
11Doug
      ID: 5701412
      Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 22:57
Every league is different, some draft early (one of my dynasty leagues does rookie draft in late July), some last minute... Some have 12 teams, some have 24... Some team D, some IDP, some both... but I think this is standard for this league... We start between week 2 and 3 games so we can finish on time and run waivers at least once. Not a big deal to me either way, just saying the change would be unexpected, and I think most folks were gearing up with expectations we'd get started tonight / tomorrow AM.
12Promizeone
      ID: 347171713
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 08:40
We are, or are not running a clock at the moment?

13Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 09:28
Last year (when we switched to MFL and used their draft) was the first time we didn't use a clock when we started. Because people picked in a timely fashion, no one made a big deal about it. One of the reasons you have a clock is so people don't wait and get an unfair advantage. Joe Newcomer comes out and has a great game or the starter goes out for the year and this backup is suddenly a must-have selection. Another reason is if someone is out all day or weekend, it doesn't stop the entire draft. We started the c-clock as people would be so late so many times that we'd be waiting the entire time almost every time they were up to time-out. We cut it from 4 hrs per pick to 3 hrs after researching and finding how rare it was for people to pick between 3 and 4 hours.

We have some clever managers. We've had people intentionally time out so they could pick at any time to try and grab a guy. We've had people with the final pick of the draft simply not pick so they could wait and see final cuts and final named starters. Because of these things, we amended draft procedures.

In almost every single year we've done this, we've began at either Noon or 6PM on the Thursday after week 2 of the preseason with a clock. If we got the draft ready before then it was soft opened without a clock until the official draft time came. The first round is particularly important and we especially don't want anyone to time out if possible, but we still have to select in a timely manner. If you are on the clock and an injury or a major announcement happens then maybe it's your lucky day. But it's not fair to those who drafted and those waiting to draft to hold it up.

As of now there is not an official clock, but that may change at any time with an announcement here and via league email. The commishs will continue to discuss it behind the scenes based on what are seeing with the draft.
14Promizeone
      ID: 347171713
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 09:43
Not to worry, my pick will be today, just wanted to check... The two people I had my eyes on went bam bam... :)
15GO
      ID: 065299
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 10:26
Where can I see a list of picks that are made?
16Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 10:32
I have been searching for that same thing GO. Haven't found it yet.
17Building 7
      ID: 2011541213
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 10:34
Click on draft on the left side.
18Building 7
      ID: 2011541213
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 10:36
And then GO you can click on trades and accept our trade from last year. Also on the left side.
19Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 10:43
Thanks B7!
20 Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 11:03
I have a keepers I might consider trading for another first round pick.
21Doug
      ID: 878410
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 11:19
I have 1.19 and 2.03 which I might consider trading for an earlier first round pick
22Promizeone
      ID: 347171713
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 11:46
Reports ===> League ====> Draft


That is your best link to click for the draft... Shows what has been picked...
Also shows your upcoming picks and gives you an opportunity to load up your spots.
24GO
      ID: 065299
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 14:25
Just kidding.
25 GO
      ID: 065299
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 15:38
I would trade Cooks and move down a few spots. Inquire within!
26Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 17:34
Just got home. I would be willing to trade down as well. If I don't hear something soon I will make my pick.
27deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 18:35
Tree - 11 rounds of 24 is like a 22 round 12 team draft. I am in drafts and one 12 team is in RD 13 of 24 ATM, this one is hard due to the size and I have another redraft which is a fast draft next week. They're all different, but always in this league followed the rules and changed any during the offseason.

We wouldn't have made the Defensive scoring changes for this year except it's been an ongoing topic for about 5 years. Hope this helps.

ds
28beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 21:40
I really wish we would just go to a live draft. It stinks that some teams can stall to get better looks at guys and those that make picks immediately or set up queues are at a disadvantage. Not saying that's a huge problem just that there's no incentive to make your picks fast.

The NFL schedule is released super early and we could just make it the Thursday(or whichever day we decide) before week 1 the night that we draft. If you can't make it then it's too bad but you would have months to find a way to reschedule your other commitment.
29 beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 22:54
Looking to trade down. Email me.
30Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 23:15
Uh, we need to move a little faster.

If you are delaying, please let us know why in this draft thread.

It really should not take more than 2-3 hours per pick, but at that rate we would probably still be drafting by halftime of the season opener--and that would not be good...
32Doug
      ID: 166331713
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 23:44
Agree, and first round is fairly known quantity. Last year I think we were done with the first round by now.
33judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Aug 22, 2014, 23:47
Only five of us are receiving notice of each pick as it is made. This is a great tool that you can configure in MFL. It keeps you up to date on your cheat sheets as you sadly cross off your picks as they are "taken" from you!!

You can find it under owners --> franchise --> Customize --> the check boxes.
34TD
      ID: 34717722
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 12:34
I think I have set up to receive notice. Let's get this draft moving so I can start checking off picks from my cheat sheets.
35mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 13:30
With no clock and still 10 games of week 3 preseason left to go, I don't see much incentive for anyone to hurry up and make a pick.

Plus several of the rookie skill players are already picked.

This just means we'll potentially be on a short clock over the Labor Day holiday.
36GO
      ID: 344132921
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 13:37
For Brandin Cooks - I will move down to your 1st rounder this year + I'd be looking for an extra pick in the first half of the draft this year or next.
37deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 15:03
Average Time Waiting For Pick To Be Made is located at the bottom of the MFL Draft page

Individual draft waing times vary from 'less than a minute' to '16hrs 47 min' so far for the first round

The create and insert a link below is not working for me. - http://football7.myfantasyleague.com/2014/options?L=34962&O=17

38beastiemiked
      ID: 137452315
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 16:45
The average wait times get pretty skewed by those that the draft stops on overnight.
39Doug
      ID: 166331713
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 16:48
OK, I've wasted enough time trying to find this (hate MFL)... where do I send an email to another manager (or see their email address)?
40Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 17:08
It stinks. Communications, email league and then delete those you don't want. Will try to find better way...

Or shoot me an email with the team name and I will shot you the email addy...
41youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 17:26
Doug, here is all the information: Report -> Franchise -> Franchise Information
42Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 17:28
Re info in [5] and [30].

Yes we need to wait until third preseason games, but please let us know that you are doing so. Then we will not expect to see your pick until after those games.
43deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 18:40
how do I draft if not from a queu? boy I am lost!!

Draft link on Left doesn't allow me and going through Reports - League - Draft doesn't let me either! I need help!
44deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 18:41
Found it under "for Owners - Draft"
45Tree
      ID: 438482411
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 19:04
With no clock and still 10 games of week 3 preseason left to go, I don't see much incentive for anyone to hurry up and make a pick.

and this is why i didn't want to pick, but felt pressured to do so due to comments here.

next year i know, if i come up before week 3 games, i'm just going to sit tight.
46deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 19:33
Tree - mjd is not a commisioner, he's expressing his opinion, as am I.

I personally don't want to be drafting on Labor Day weekend next weekend on a 2 or 4 hour clock to finish. Slowing down the draft for you own personal gain is at best a minimal risk of losing someone to injury. Sean Lee tore his ACL in a "walk-thru" practice at rookie camp, so you can't predict injuries.

We didn't need the clock last year, but we didn't wait until after Wk3 of the preseason either. IMO, that is a real selfish person. I'd rather spend the holiday with family than draft.
47Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 19:55
We shouldn't have started the actual draft without a clock. I, of all people, understand that. Yes, I have gotten your messages. Thank you for being so nice about it. In the future, it is my hope, that we will start a clock on the actual starting time.

For now though, remember that it is very difficult to make timely picks from Friday afternoon until about Sunday at Noon or so for many of us. I even had something come up unexpected last night that was unavoidable, so I get it. But I don't feel we could start a clock during this time when it wasn't already running. "Sitting tight" is something we have never allowed and I can understand the frustrations.

When our 3 hr clock does start, we will see how it goes. We have been faster since we got on drafttime and then MFL as it is automated and not having to post in forum and then pick up players. If we finish in plenty of time and are able to get through waivers in time for that Thursday game, then perhaps in the future we can simply start the draft on that Monday morning after week 3 games have played and WITH a 3 hr clock.
48Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 19:59
46: Correct, starting on Thursday usually gets us done before Labor Day Weekend. When the draft has lagged into that weekend, it has been a skip fest.

Also, looking at MFL, it appears like they automatically draft someone for you when you time out. Gotta think about that as we obviously don't want that to happen. Autopicks behind it will be all messed up.
49Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 20:27
[48]. Nope: you have choices. We chose this 1):

When the timer expires:

1) Allow the system to automatically pick a player for the owner based on the highest-ranked available player on the owner's "My Draft List" player rankings, otherwise, skip the pick. The league commissioner may then use the For Commissioners > Setup > Draft Setup > Change Draft Pick option to pick the appropriate player at the appropriate time to compensate for the skipped pick, if league rules permit it.
2). Allow the system to automatically pick a player for the owner based on the highest-ranked available player, on the owner's "My Draft List" player ranking, and then once that list is exhausted, according to rankings displayed on the ADP page.


If you do not have a my draft list, your pick is skipped.
50Tree
      ID: 48659111
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 20:56
I'll need a text when I'm up if we're having a 3 hour clock. My Internet access is limited during the day due to the nature of my job, so without knowledge that I'm up, I'll certainly time out.
51Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 23:07
I believe MFL has that option.
52Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 38502923
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 23:08
You can setup mfl to text you when it's your turn to draft (or whenever anybody drafts as well).
53deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 23:14
Tree- I try and build a queue around 8-10 picks ahead After round 2. There isn't much difference between the 300th & 310th pick (taking into account keepers + 2 Rds) once we get into the 3rd round unless you have a good sleeper. Itt gets harder to pick good players in the latter rounds. (IMO)

Best available is relative to the position(s) still needed to complete your roster. There isn't a "steal" once we get to Rds 5-6. You've already got a good team, so let the dice roll. Good luck. ;)
54Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 23:15
For owners --> franchise setup --> wireless
55deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 23:16
SJY - UR correct - mine does.
56Promize
      ID: 217422220
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 23:29
Sorry all, Charter internet is down all over US. Having tough time researching my next pick on my phone.
57Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sat, Aug 23, 2014, 23:51
Ok thanks for update!!!
58Frick
      ID: 205591421
      Sun, Aug 24, 2014, 10:17
Sorry for the delay, didn't realize I was up and was outside working. I'll pick shortly
59GO
      ID: 344132921
      Sun, Aug 24, 2014, 13:32
My trade with Ravens keeps not going through because his roster would be invalid. So dumb.

Trade Accepted
Error - Transaction Would Create An Invalid Roster For Baltimore Ravens
At Least 1 PK Are Required On Your Roster
At Least 1 DT+DE Are Required On Your Roster
At Least 1 CB+S Are Required On Your Roste
60GO
      ID: 344132921
      Sun, Aug 24, 2014, 14:04
Took the "invalid roster causes reject of a trade" option off and pushed through. We should leave that off permanently, no?
61judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Aug 24, 2014, 14:52
yes.
62beastiemiked
      ID: 18752419
      Sun, Aug 24, 2014, 20:05
Going to be 1-2 hours before I pick. Didn't think it would get to me here so fast so need to wait til my kids go to bed before I can pick.
63Tree
      ID: 438482411
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 08:26
i've got 2 picks in the next 7.

where i go with my next pick hinges a little on what happens with the three in front of me.

it shouldn't be too huge of a delay when i come up, for me to pick, and at that point i'll also set up my queue for the pick after that.
64Tree
      ID: 48659111
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 13:09
Productive morning. Lol
65Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 13:38
I never got an email telling me I was up. I have been here messaging GO to pick and he must be thinking I am nuts. I told Slizz I wish GO would hurry up so I can pick and he finally told me to pick already. LOL I just got both emails from GO and my pick JUST NOW!

Clock should already be on--let me go investigate...
66GO
      ID: 065299
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 13:38
I am not sure what happened, Ref thought he was waiting on me, I went at 10 something... he never got a notice.
67Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 13:43
OK clock is on now. Sorry for the delay. Will email everyone as well. It's at 3 hrs. If you time out, you will be autoskipped if it gets to your next pick before you have made-up your last pick as usual. There is a setting for that but I didn't want that manager to always be skipped. We will try and monitor.
68judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 14:32
I don't think the notify me if it is my turn is working...unless it is because i auto pick...
69Frick
      ID: 17640169
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 15:09
Do you have to turn on the notice in Wireless settings? I haven't been getting notifications either, but I also noticed I hadn't turned it on.

It appears that notifications are not on by default for draft picks.
70Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 16:58
I get an email after every draft pick, but I find they are delayed once in a great while. I think you have to change what setting you'd like. I went in and looked and I can't even find where to do that. This site confuses me.
71 deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 17:30
70) - I believe it's REPORTS=>FRANCHISE=>WIRELESS=>SEND ME TO MY WIRELESS HOME PAGE and you can choose phone text or email notice.

So happy Win8 handles "LIVE" Microsoft mail now, I've got personal, business, fantasy sports, & junk email addresses (6-7) in all. Live.com handles all, including Verizon, Hotmail, Gmail, & YAHOO!! Lost it when I converted to WIN8 in Feb. Only went to Win7 then.

BTW - I love the copy queue to queue opion! Back about 4 years ago, you had to input EACH queue individually! Pain in the but!!
72Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 19:38
MFL isn't skipping a non-picker after their 3 hours is up.
73Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 19:50
Never mind. It just waits till 3:12 or so. Shows the advantage of having someone in the "My Draft" list.
74Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 19:52
I think it picked automatically. Need to remove that pick it seems.
75skinneej
      ID: 14911313
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 19:54
I've been trying to make a pick for the last 30 mins. My phone browser kept timing out and now I can't make my selection.

Actually, now I see my pick has timed out and an autopick was made. Why didn't it just skip me so I can make the pick I want?
76Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 19:55
Looks like whoever you had at the top of my draft list was selected. So you have to have it auto picked on? Am confused but am not going to touch anything right now.
77skinneej
      ID: 14911313
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 20:01
No I don't have auto pick on.
78Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 20:04
Whatever's at the top of "My Draft List" gets picked when you time out. Beware.
79Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 20:07
Here's a quote of Guru's explanation of MFL draft options for RIFC.:

"Here are some guidelines for executing your draft picks.
(These are copied from last year's thread. Please let me know if I have misspecified anything)

1. "My Draft List" - Under the "For Owners" menu (at the top), there is an item called My Draft List. You can think of this as your personal pre-ranking of players if you wish, although it has one important operational impact. If your 4-hour clock expires, then your pick will be automatically selected as the top name on your "My Draft List". Only if that list is empty will your pick be skipped. (More on this in a moment.)

2. "Pre-Draft Pick" list - You access this through "For owners->Draft"
These are the equivalent of the kafenatid "queue", with several important distinctions:
There is a separate list/queue for each round, and they do not carry over, and
If there is a name in your queue, that player will be immediately selected when it is your turn to draft. The only way to turn off a round-specific queue is to empty it. Therefore, it is important to keep your queues empty unless you are sure that they should be used. If you expect to want to load & unload your queue frequently (similar to turning it on or off), then you should probably keep a list of players in "My Draft list", as you can quickly pull up that short list to add players to any queue.

Of course, if you have players in "My Draft List", then you are also subject to having those players selected if you should time-out. Typically, that shouldn't be a problem, as timing-out should be a rare occurrence."
81mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 20:10
No option to turn off autopick on MFL.

Will only skip if all your lists are empty when you time out.
82skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 20:11
I had one guy in my pre draft list but he got taken a couple picks before mine. I had some random players in the draft list to watch, but had no idea there was an auto pick. With the issues I was having earlier with my phone, I just planned to wait until I got home to pick after I was skipped. I can make my pick now.
83skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 20:13
And btw, it didn't even take the top available player in my draft list. Can this pick be removed so I can make my actual pick now?
84judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 21:02
Waiting to hear from Bears about pick. We've been in touch...
85 judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 21:08
skinneej

I can do it. Let me know via email who you wanted...
86judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 21:11
Guys,

Bears emailed me this am about his pick. We made arrangements for me to pick for him, but I forgot to let him know it was his turn.
So I am gonna change the clock to 5 hours so we can get his pick in. There are 6 managers with queues set after him and if we let it go, it will be a mess.

This was my fault not his, so we need to fix it.
87Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 21:17
82 and 83, I couldn't figure out how to do it, but yet you may change your pick. Hopefully, i n the future we get this fixed so no one loses a player they wanted if he goes. There are no other options for us and this is what I was worried about in my post yesterday.
88Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 21:21
ok i figured out how to change your pick sj. you need to let us know immediately. I might pick up some scrub in its place for now so no one else misses out.
89Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 21:28
Everyone might want to adjust your q in case you had him there. Not sure if he was auto-removed when sj was autodrafted.
90skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 21:33
Ok, I was trying to draft Lions DS/T.
91Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 21:48
Mfl does not auto remove so Boykin should still be there.
92Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 21:52
90 done
93judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 25, 2014, 22:44
all fixed!
94Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Tue, Aug 26, 2014, 09:05
Our scoring rules still give 6 points each for special teams touchdowns.
95Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Tue, Aug 26, 2014, 09:18
94: Good.

When someone times out, one of the commishes is going to go in asap and switch any auto-pick to a NFL FA like Adams. Hopefully we catch it soon enough that no one else misses the chance to draft anyone taken. Says it will only pick someone if it is in their draft list.
96Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Tue, Aug 26, 2014, 09:25
My "My Draft List" contains only players I want to be drafted if I time out. That is, I *want* my autopick used. I don't want someone else to take him before I can get back to pick.

You could do as RIFC does and let managers who *don't* want to use their list this way put a placeholder at the top of their queue themselves.

Guru's approach in RIFC: If you want to keep players loaded in "My Draft List" and you dont want to risk the top name being selected automatically upon timeout, then I suggest putting a "placeholder" player at the top of your list - preferably someone who is retired, or injured, or clearly not a viable pick. We can come up with specific placeholder options, if needed. If you time-out and a placeholder player is automatically selected for you, then you can have the commish replace that player with a real pick when you are available."
98GO
      ID: 065299
      Wed, Aug 27, 2014, 13:47
As much as I hate navigating the website... the app - the one that's a black and white football - has been pretty awesome. I find it easier to use than the full website. You gotta pay 3 bucks after Week 2 if you want to continue using it, but even just for the draft its useful.
99judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 28, 2014, 14:06
man, it has been so confusing drafting three leagues at once -- get confused about what I want when...blew two, maybe three picks already...also guess I keep forgetting to push save for the queue as I have gotten a couple guys I didn't think were that high based on who was taken ahead of time...
100Nerfherders
      ID: 1511182416
      Thu, Aug 28, 2014, 15:43
Well there goes my season - Gordon out for the year. Still worth keeping though.
101PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Aug 28, 2014, 19:25
How do I make a pick after being skipped? The kicker run emptied my queue. When I click on the draft, it takes me to set a queue for my 9th round pick.
102judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 28, 2014, 19:48
pete is all set.. commish has to do missed picks...
103Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Thu, Aug 28, 2014, 20:44
Jaguars' Blake Bortles Hits Marqise Lee for 57-Yard Touchdown vs. Falcons

Hope to see plenty of that this year!
104beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Thu, Aug 28, 2014, 21:53
Sorry, I'm a terrible league mate. Will pick in a second.
105Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Thu, Aug 28, 2014, 22:18
Well we are 3.5 rounds to go and Labor Day weekend is getting ready to start. Still a lot of people have queues so we can reel off several picks at a time once in awhile. Most of the big picks have been taken so if you're going to be gone, please consider a queue.
106judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Aug 29, 2014, 12:42
This is the worse team I have drafted in a long time. Not sure why, but it sure looks lousy...
107Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Fri, Aug 29, 2014, 18:33
"Quitting time" on Labor Day Friday and we are still 1.5 rounds to go. Even with the timed out pick, we still did really well today. Hopefully we won't time out anyone else but I know it's tough.

As a reminder, If anyone times out, you will have until the end of the draft to make it up or an additional 3 hours from the time you timed out to make your pick before the draft is declared over. If you are short, you will have to fill your team via waivers/FAs once the season starts. This prevents people from intentionally getting skipped to try and fine out last minute starters/roster cuts. There are a lot of queues filled, so this has the potential to go quickly.
108judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Aug 29, 2014, 18:40
well, well, well. Looks like Parker might beat out Henery for the Philly PK job. At least that is what the football guy says. I watched the game last night and followed the commentary and took a flyer. Still can't believe I drafted 2 PK, hoping one would stick! Haven't heard any news about graham.
109Tree
      ID: 357242918
      Fri, Aug 29, 2014, 19:24
With one more pick to go, i have to say i'm really happy with how my first G24 draft went.

i was able to grab several young players i had been looking at, and feel like i have the basis for a strong future in a very competitive league (two rookie QBs with bright futures has me very excited)...
110Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sat, Aug 30, 2014, 15:00
I suppose I could learn to spell his name: Parkey...
111Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Sat, Aug 30, 2014, 17:16
Sooo....next year, based on our progress this year, IF we are willing to draft well into Labour Day weekend and want to see the results of the Week 3 games first, we could open the draft on Sunday with no clock and start the clock Monday at 9 A.M.
112Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Sat, Aug 30, 2014, 17:28
Ok, so pick 11.24 has been made but since there was a pick skipped who hasn't had an additional 3 hrs to pick yet--the draft will remain open until Slizz picks or until 7:45 pm ET hits. Because the draft hasn't officially ended, CC Rider will also be allowed to make up his pick if he does so BEFORE Slizz picks or until the draft ends with Slizz pick or 7:45 time comes. I will copy this and email both of them. They have to have a ocmmish replace their missed pick I believe.
113Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Sat, Aug 30, 2014, 21:30
Draft has concluded. Slizz and CCR can fill out their rosters via waivers or FA as well as those teams who don't have their teams legal yet.

I guess we will turn waivers on and let them run. I'm assuming we are using same timing as before.
114Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Sat, Aug 30, 2014, 23:21
Waiver order has been set up. Looks like Waivers will act like they will every week. So you can start requesting them for the following week at 1pm ET and they will run at Noon and you can get FA waivers at 3.
115Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 14:48
Went in to test waivers and it wasn't working. Looked around site for like an hour and finally found that all teams except for AZ were turned off. Got them on now so everyone should be good.
116Doug
      ID: 166331713
      Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 18:25
Re: 111, I'd rather get it completed sooner than we did this year... before Labor Day weekend hits
117Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 19:06
In that case we could start it Tuesday or Wednesday with a clock from the start.
118Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 19:45
Clocks don't help unless they are under a hour. With an allowance of three hours, it disincentivizes (!!). people to pick. I cannot tell you how many emails I sent out reminding people to pick. Look at how few actually timed out. All you need is one guy who consistently takes "too long". And everyone else is screwed.
I am really looking forward to NOT being tied to the computer this week and getting some sleep!
119Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Tue, Sep 02, 2014, 10:12
That's why we have a cumulative clock. Starting with no clock, makes checking on the c clock a lot tougher. 3 hours for those slow pokes is fine as most don't time out and many had the Queues that speed things up. IF we start on Thursday as usual with that 3 hour clock, we will be done by the following Thursday.
120Ref
      ID: 55156513
      Tue, Sep 02, 2014, 10:15
I can't get the link to work for some reason, but I have started the new season thread in the football forum.

http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=foot&thread=5508#1409670861
121slizz
      ID: 3556212
      Tue, Sep 02, 2014, 10:26
DRAFT DIARY

Won't be as in-depth as baseball's review as Slizz Jr. keeps me busy chasing her around the house now that she's walking...nevertheless, here I go:

Keepers:

QB - Ryan (No surprise here, he's a must-own in G24, but not an elite QB overall...)
RB - CJ1K (I feel like coach klein in the waterboy "I hate him I hate him I hate him" Coach Klein - Waterboy
RB - Zac Stacy (Young RB, touchdown magnet, solid keeper)
WR - Dez Bryant (Best in the biz in 2014. Cowboys defense is dogcrap and they will be throwing alot)
WR - Roddy White (Roddy will be good for a couple more years. Little known fact is he was a state champ wrestling in high school. How does that translate to football? He is near impossible to bump at the line. Should be good for a couple more years as he's damn near impossible to press)
TE - Jordan Reed (Banking on him being the next Jimmy Graham...bold move considering I will be in the thick of a playoff race and his injury history)
LB - Patrick Willis (No Bowman? Sign me up!)
LB - Von Miller (fantasy stud when healthy as he hits all facets on the stat sheet...)
DST - St. Louis Rams (Probably the most upside of any DST...hoping all those chips turn out a decent defense)

Had some decisions to make. Last year, I didn't make any moves as I was hoping Timmons would fall to me at 1.24, and of course he goes a pick or two before my selection to the Chargers. This year, I had 3 players who should have been kept IMHO:

Greg Olsen (#1 in Carolina, little to no injury risk, and is a sure bet for 75-750-8...he ceiling isn't much higher and floor isn't much lower than that. That said, I love risk/reward players like Reed and am going to hope that move doesn't come back and bite me. I received five (5) inquiries about trading for Olsen and as a result, was able to secure a 2nd round pick for him. At first, I only wanted a 3rd as I try to be as reasonable as possible with trades as anyone who has traded with me knows...but given the demand, I was actually in the driver's seat for once!)

Ladarius Green (Wanted to float him in the draft, but right away had three inquiries about him when they saw my keepers posted, so I figured I wouldn't have a chance to get him like Timmons. B7 Showed massive interest and made sure he would put together the best offer for him. Hate trading him to a fellow AFC contender of mine, but an extra 3rd is hard to say no to.

Mychal Kendricks (Had discussions with one manager about a trade, but I definitely asked for more than what he was willing to pay as he was someone I really wanted at 1.20, so I wanted to make sure if I was to part ways, I was going to feel good about the pick I was getting. Nevertheless, he went early teens and will be a fine addition for BMD).

SUPPLEMENTAL DRAFT

1.20 - Khiry Robinson (Going into my 7th season of G24, I can safely say I am the Matt Millen of first round picks:

Year one - Tarvaris Jackson
Year Two - Chris Perry and traded Ryan Grant / Roddy White for Deion Branch and the rights to pick Tim Hightower
Year Three - Traded first rd pick to Toral for Trent Edwards
Year Four - Jhavid Best and Dez Bryant (Like Millen and Calvin Johnson - a no Brainer)
Year Five - Jon Baldwin (Alshon went right before me!!!!)
Year Six - LaMichael James (to think, Toral offered me Keenan Allen and I said no as I was too prideful to give up James for Allen post draft).

7 years in the league. Batting 1 for 9 with draft picks in the first round. Given my crappy track record, I should just trade the pick every year...Now, I have found great value later in the draft, but if you give me a high pick, chances are i'll blow it. I've had some late-round gems that have made my team, just can't nail a first rd pick. Khiry, I'm not expecting much, if anything at all!

2.20 - Wesley Woodyard (Immediately after picking him, got an email from Toral complimenting the pick, which means I'm doing something right :D)

2.24 - Miles Austin (#1 in cleveland this year...could do worse as a flex play)

3.19 - Kenny Vaccaro (#4 Safety on my board who was available behind Harrison Smith, TJ Ward, and Cyprien. I know Weddle is Mr. Consistency, but he offers no upside to me that Vaccaro has. Cyprien is a total stud, but I would've had too many week 11 byes if I chose him)

3.20 - Gostkowski (#1 kicker in my fantasy projection...thought I'd get him before they start to go in Rounds 4/5. Totally underestimated the market for kickers as this was a wasted reach. Gost will still be good for me though)

4.20 - Brandon Spikes (3 down ILB with Alonso out...sign me up!)

5.20 - Jermaine Kearse (was investigating a serious accident when the pick came up, meant to go Dolphins DST as they play the Raiders week 4 when STL is on a bye. Saw something flash on my newsfeed about Kearse and went with him...will be a solid flex play who could play himself into a WR2 role depending how seattle uses him)

7.20 - Jaguars DST (wanted a backup DST for week 4 as I am a contender)

8.20 - Deone Bucanon (not necessarily a reach, but he is second team now and plays linebacker on nickel/dime packages. Has to beat out a undrafted FA at SS to become fantasy relevant. hopefully it happens by Vaccaro's bye otherwise he's cut)

10.20 - Brent Celek (usually, I try and stream backup TE's, but given Reed's injury history, I could do alot worse than Brent).

11.20 - Timed out...sorry guys, had a one man queue of Chris Long from STL and didn't think anyone would take him. Was hosting about 60 people at my house for the daughters 1st bday and the draft had concluded by the time I gave Ref my selection. Will just pickup via free agency before the season starts.

All in all - happy with how the draft went as I have a solid, championship contending roster.
122WG
      ID: 34021519
      Tue, Sep 09, 2014, 23:04
Where can I see the waiver order???
123youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Wed, Sep 10, 2014, 03:59
WG - I see it on the bottom left of the league home page
124WG
      ID: 552431321
      Wed, Sep 10, 2014, 10:48
Oh yea, thanks.
125Doug
      ID: 878410
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 13:58
DRAFT DIARY

Like Slizz, my Fantasy Football attention is not at the same levels it was in the "pre-kid" days. Hence Week 3 and I'm looking back at things... but trying to write what my thoughts were at the time.

Keepers:

QB - Kaepernick - Nice to have a QB who I think will be a reliable starter for at least a few years... I don't think an Elite QB is necessary in this league, but just good to have someone you can count on.
QB - Alex Smith - A 2nd QB who I think will be a reliable starter for at least a few years... his ceiling is lower IMO, but again, in this league you can win with just a serviceable QB, hence he certainly has value. But I could trade either of my 2 QBs for the right price.
RB - Gio Bernard - Duh.
RB - Lamar Miller - Hasn't quite lived up to expectations, but still should get me some points.
RB - Bernard Pierce - Could be gold if Ray Rice drops off.
RB - Latavius Murray - Behind two injury-prone starters, but I think can be solid when he gets his shot... willing to wait on him. I've dropped RBs in the past who had talent but were not getting reps yet (like Rashad Jennings) and regretted it... but on the other hand, many of the ones I've let go were never heard from again. I guess the upside at RB makes them more worth keeping IMO.
WR - Mike Williams - Not sure he has as much upside as it once looked like he would, especially with the Watkins signing (and Woods who I like as well)... but he's got some talent and has certainly shown flashes in the past, so willing to hold on at least one more year and see what happens with him in Buffalo.
LB - Luke Kuechly - Stud.
LB - Jerod Mayo - Coming off injury, but LB1 when healthy... traded a mid-round pick to get him... otherwise would have kept either Cleveland D or taken a flier on Bobby Rainey... but with the changes to Team D they really aren't worth keeping unless you've got maybe a top-5 D IMO.

I tried trading down from #1 overall because there was a fair amount of rookie talent... and I wanted Carlos Hyde if I could get him at 4 or 5... but didn't seem like anyone really wanted to make that reach for Sammy at #1. And he was the clear #1 IMO, lots of guys right behind him, but you watch tape and think "this guy is special", so in the end, I was fine just sitting tight. Oh, and thanks to the Fantasy Gods for giving me the lottery win!

Doing a retrospective of my previous round 1 picks... it seems 2004-2008 was a rough patch for me, but things have been looking up lately:

2002 (inaugural) - 1.14 Jeff Garcia... seemed like a good idea at the time... *sigh*
2003 - 1.08 Andre Johnson (traded up)
2004 - 1.06 Steven Jackson (P.S. Gates at 2.07)
2005 - No first round pick
2006 - 1.21 Ernest Wilford (who!? I don't remember this pick at all)
2007 - 1.13 Michael Bush
2008 - No first round pick (apparently traded away to deepsnapper along with Andre Johnson for Vince Young!? Ugh! Did that really happen?)
2009 - 1.23 Rashad Jennings
2010 - 1.08 Mike Williams
2011 - 1.17 Alex Smith
2012 - 1.23 Lamar Miller (P.S. Kaepernick at 11.23)
2013 - 1.01 Gio Bernand

Which brings us to...

SUPPLEMENTAL DRAFT
1.01 - Sammy Watkins - No-brainer as the #1 overall to me... should be a lock as a WR1 for a long time. Might take a year or two to get there as he needs Manuel to develop or a new QB, but barring injury I'm very confident his talent will shine through eventually.

1.19 - Odell Beckham - I've pretty much decided to draft for 2015... there's a lot of WR talent this year and I think I can snag some guys who will help me win next year and beyond, even if that means lower production this season. I don't expect I have a contender team this year, so I'm ok with that and will invest in the long term.

2.03 - Cody Latimer - With Manning throwing him the ball, he can be gold IF he gets on the field. Maybe the Welker suspension will help him get some playing time from the start.

3.03 - Donte Moncrief - Did I say this was a deep rookie class of WRs? Yep! Did I expect I'd get 4 that I like? Nope! But I did. Similar logic as Latimer, having Luck throwing the ball to you can't hurt. I think he's a bit more of a project, but just as much upside esp. once Wayne starts to drop off (or leaves town).

4.03 - De'Anthony Thomas - Definitely not a sure thing, but I'll take the upside chance... could have value next year... KC is a good place for RBs.

Rest of my draft is pretty unspectacular (as you'd expect for a league this deep)... filling out roster spots as needed, taking a flier on a rookie TE, and so on. I almost had all the crappy Team D's disappear on me before I drafted one (and wouldn't have been willing to pay much to trade for one, which would have been an interesting dilemma), but fortunately crisis averted I wound up with my namesake Raiders.
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