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0 Subject: 2015 RotoGurupie Keeper 14

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Sat, Jun 13, 2015, 09:05

I sent out a quick email to assess the interest in continuing this year, before paying for the league.

11 said "yes", Bonka said "probably", and two did not respond (JoeyZ & Skeepers).

So I went ahead and renewed at the earlybird rate of $59.95. That works out to $4.29 per team.

If you pay using paypal, send to davehall@rotoguru2.com, use the "send to friends or family" option (no fee). Put Keeper14 (or K14) in the note field.

If you send a check, use the address at the bottom of the GuruPatron info page.

1Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Jul 22, 2015, 16:33
Bonka just told me he is withdrawing from the league this year.

That means we'll need a replacement manager, and also a commish.

I'm hoping someone can step up and take the lead on recruiting, because I've got some travel planned in the next few weeks, and I've also got to get the RIFC leagues organized. So if you depend on me to get things going, then the league will probably collapse.

2Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Jul 22, 2015, 21:06
Graham Crackers (jzapps) has also pulled out. 2 openings
3GoatLocker
      ID: 404291221
      Wed, Jul 22, 2015, 22:17
Dave,
I would if I could, but I'm absolutely buried between work and dealing with my wife's health issues. Hope somebody steps up.
4Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Jul 22, 2015, 22:55
I would be willing to be a co commish, but not the only one.
5Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 11:38
I can probably help out as co-commish... with a family now it's hard for me to be reliably available for handling any last-minute pre-game snafus (let alone tweak my lineups based on player status updates), but I think I can carry at least 50% of the week-to-week load.
6Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 22:58
Hardest work is in the pre season, setting keepers and draft picks. And then pushing folks to actually draft in a timely fashion...
7 Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 03, 2015, 13:14
Doug, shoot me your email so we can figure out who can do what. I do have some time the next ten days or so to sort stuff out. I will ask boNKA for the spreadsheet of the draft from last year.
8Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 03, 2015, 19:04
Invites sent.

We need two new managers. Suggestions?
9Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 03, 2015, 21:26
URL for 2015

http://www15.myfantasyleague.com/2015/home/38430#0
10 SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Thu, Aug 06, 2015, 23:48
I'd take a team if you are willing to accept any random bum.
11Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Aug 07, 2015, 12:29
Commish decision, the bum is IN.

Have an email from another good candidate. Will keep you posted...
12 TD
      ID: 8737711
      Fri, Aug 07, 2015, 12:37
I am interested in managing a team in this league.
13judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Aug 07, 2015, 13:10
TD is IN. invite on its way.

The league is now full.

I am working on the draft order thingie. Be thinking about your 6 keepers, 5 offense, 1 IDP.
14judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Aug 07, 2015, 13:39
Working on stuff, bit by bit:

Here is what I think the draft order should be based the by laws and everyones finish last year. Some can check it out.

1. GL Bums
2. Snoop doug
3. Skeepers
4. Graham (new team)
5. Oaktown
6. Beezer
7. IAC
8. mjd
9. WG
10. DaBomb
11. Ghostwood
12. RG Klingons
13. Bonka (new team)
14. Vampire
15Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Aug 07, 2015, 18:06
Oops for #13

6 keepers max
1 must be IDP.
16The Beezer
      ID: 24743720
      Fri, Aug 07, 2015, 21:43
Great additions to the league - welcome! And thanks to Judy and Doug for commishing!
17judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 15:05
Anyone have any thoughts on a calendar? I would like to be finished the draft before Labor Day, so back it up 12 days, that would begin it Monday August 24. The last preseason game is ??? probably that weekend???

Maybe open up the draft that Friday the 21st, but not make it mandatory/on the clock?

Thoughts??

So to give me time to set up the draft keepers thingie, how about keepers due Monday August 17 with flexibility to change if someone gets injured.

Also remember to check your IR player for keepers...
18The Beezer
      ID: 475818
      Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 19:05
I agree with making August 17 the keeper deadline and starting the draft on August 24. This draft typically goes pretty fast.
19Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 20:20
To keep in mind:

One thing to add to the spreadsheet are the players not drafted that are keeper eligible. Teams can retain any player picked up between the draft and the start of the playoffs for a 24th round pick.

Players drafted, dropped, and then picked up (by any team, including the original dropping team) also follow this rule except in 2 cases:
- the player went on IR before being dropped
- the player was picked up before going through a blind bid cycle (example: player is dropped on Wednesday and picked up on Friday)

In these cases, the player maintains the round in which the player was drafted.
20Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 20:24
You can check your 2014 final roster here.

http://football15.myfantasyleague.com/2014/options?L=42826&O=07

I believe that any playoff picks ups cannot be kept??
21The Beezer
      ID: 24743720
      Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 21:08
Correct - playoff pickups cannot be kept.
22Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Aug 09, 2015, 19:13
Thanks for help with the interpretations Beezer. I am still learning this league.
23Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 13:48
Last year the draft took 7 days. First pick was on Aug 24, and last pick on Aug 31.

If we start again on Aug 24, and keep the same pace, we'll finish a full week before Labor Day, and 10 days before the season starts. Aug 24 is only the second weekend of preseason.

I'd suggest pushing back the timeline by a week. Say, keepers by Aug 24, and draft starts around Aug 30.
24Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 17:33
I agree. Any one else?
25The Beezer
      ID: 475818
      Tue, Aug 11, 2015, 19:00
Makes sense. I did not realize that preseason week 3 was that late.
26judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 12, 2015, 16:13
me neither...
27Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 09:39
League hosting cost was $59.95. Split 14 ways, that's $4.28 per team.

Judy and Vampire have paid. I think everyone else still owes - but correct me if I missed someone.

I prefer payment via paypal - send as "friends and family", to davehall@rotoguru2.com.

If you cannot use paypal, then send a check via snail mail to the address listed near the bottom
of the GuruPatron info page.

28SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Thu, Aug 13, 2015, 20:42
hmm, newbie here but I have inherited Bonka's team. I will try not to screw it up too badly.

So, I will have most of these guys available.
Stafford (1)
Doug Martin (1)
Sanders(5)
Mark Ingram(6)
JPP (10)
Stewart(11)
Heath Miller (12)
Ware(15)
Delanie Walker (18)
Jonas Gray(24)
Greenway(24)

Please propose trades if you are looking to fill gaps with any of these guys.

29Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 12:31
Good progress on collecting dues payments.

Just awaiting the following four now:
Beezer
mjd
TD
WG
30The Beezer
      ID: 10735519
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 08:51
I'll throw out some trades to different teams, yet am open to deals for any of the following (I skipped the players no one would want for the price). I am open to keeper upgrades yet am primarily looking for pick swaps.

Adrian Peterson (1)
Demaryius Thomas (1)
Bobby Wagner (6)
Tyler Eifert (12)
Dwayne Allen (15)
Teddy Bridgewater (16)
James Starks (19)
Tre Mason (24)
Christine Michael (24)
Davante Adams (24)
Andre Holmes (24)
Cody Latimer (24)
Cecil Shorts (24)
Kenny Stills (24)
Terrell Suggs (24)
J.T. Thomas (24)
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix (24)
Antrel Rolle (24)
31WG
      ID: 539431423
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 14:30
Is there going to be an updated sheet with keeper pick costs? Or are we figuring out our own?
32Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 15:43
For now please figure out your own...
34judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 17:13
32.

How to -- as best I can tell. At least this is what I did!

Go to the 2014 homepage and print out the draft grid format to see where you drafted players last year. Look at who you plan to keep. If they are on that grid, life is easier.

Next look at the actual draft to see who your keepers were for 2014. You need to look at the full format draft info to see who your keepers were.

Keeping a keeper? Cut 2014 round in half (4th becomes 2nd, 16 become 8, 11 becomes 6) and figure it out.

If you drafted a guy in 2014, he stays in that slot for one year.

If you FA'd him, he goes into your 24 slot; if you keep 3 of that kind of guy, they go into 24, 23 and 22.

You could also ask another manger to check your info to see if you have it correct...

I will be double checking after the keepers are chosen On Monday, August 24 by 8 pm EDT.

If this is not correct, please let me know. I am new to commishing this league and so didn't pay attention to some of the drafting slot details...
35judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 17:24
Ghostwood Keepers (Judy)
Julio Jones (1)
Marshawn Lynch (1)
Russell Wilson (2)
Alfred Morris (3)

Drafted last year: Stay in same slot:
DeAndre Levy (14) IDP
Jarvis Landry (15)

as of August 16...

This means that my first pick will be in Round 5.
36judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 17:29
I loaded rosters from 2014 onto your 2015 team. When you decide on your keepers, go to

Reports --> Franchise --> Keepers

to select your keepers.

It does not become permanent until I click a special button, so you can change them up to the deadline.
37judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 17:34
When posting players please adjust the number to give their 2015 draft position. i.e.., halve the round...

I think Beezer needs to fix his numbers...
38judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 17:43
Looks like draft is NOT a snake.

This what I have figured out for draft order based on finish and by laws. It is a little complicated with finishes, points scored etc.

I would love for someone else to check it out for me. Thanks.

1. GL Bums
2. Snoop doug
3. Skeepers
4. TD Dragons
5. Oaktown
6. Beezer
7. IAC
8. mjd
9. WG
10. DaBomb
11. Ghostwood
12. RG Klingons
13. SwinganaMiss
14. Vampire
39The Beezer
      ID: 10735519
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 18:32
I'm fairly sure my numbers are correct. My 2014 keepers were ADP, Demaryius, Fitzgerald (traded), RG3 (cut), Hardy (cut), and Justin Hunter (will be dropping). All my other players were drafted new in 2014 or picked up during the season.

Please let me know if I messed this up.
40Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 18:40
Ok I'll check tonight, done with football for a few hours here.
41Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 21:18
You are right, Beezer. Tried to do too much fantasy organIzing today and went on overload...
42The Beezer
      ID: 475818
      Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 21:36
No worries. The keeper rules in this league are not easy to navigate.
43Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 10:02
Tentative keepers:

Aaron Rodgers, QB (1) (prior keeper)
Randall Cobb, WR (1) (prior keeper)
TY Hilton, WR (4) (drafted last year @ 4)
Andre Ellington, RB (11) (prior keeper @ 22)
Jamie Collins, LB (24) (f/a pickup)
Sio Moore, LB (24) (f/a pickup)
44Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 14:50
Guru -- great way to present keeper list.

Could everyone do it that way please!!!
45SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 16:13
Tentative keepers:
Lacy (1) (Prior keeper @2)
AJ Green (1) (Prior keeper @1)
Calvin Johnson (1) (Prior keeper @1)
Anderson(20) (drafted last year @20)

Still deciding between these guys...
Stafford (2 or 1?) (prior keeper @3)
Doug Martin (1) (prior keeper @1)
Sanders(5) (drafted last year @5)
Mark Ingram(6) (drafted last year @6)
JPP (10) (drafted last year @10)
Stewart(11) (drafted last year @11)
Heath Miller (12) (drafted last year @12)
Ogletree (12) (keeper @24 last year)
Ware(15) (drafted last year @15)
Delanie Walker (18) (drafted last year @18)
Jelani Jenkins (24) (FA pickup)
Jonas Gray(24) (drafted last year @24)
Greenway(24) (FA pickup)
46WG
      ID: 552431321
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 16:18
Swinganamiss, got an email I can contact you at? Am interested in asking you about trades...
47Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 16:56
Manager "A" trades a guy picked in round 16 last year to another manager "B", the player stays at 16 and "B" loses whatever draft slot he traded for:

A gives Player x at slot 16 to B plus draft pick 24 (just to even out picks)
B gives draft pick 10 to A.
Player x stays in round 16 for B.

If it was the second year for player x, he would go into draft slot 8 for B.

Do I have it correct?
48Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 17:07
UPDATE:

Ghostwood Keepers (Judy)
Julio Jones (1). (prior keeper @1)
Marshawn Lynch (1). (prior keeper @2)
Russell Wilson (2). (prior keeper @4)
Alfred Morris (3). (prior keeper @6)
Jordan Matthews (7) (drafted last year @7)
DeAndre Levy (14) IDP. (Drafted last year @14)


as of August 16...

This means that my first pick will be in Round 5.

Available for trade bait:
Kelce drafted @10
Landry drafted @15
Greene drafted @8
Weddle drafted @9
49 VampireWeekend
      ID: 167511716
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 17:51
Vampireweekend current thinking...

DeMarco Murray (1) - prior keeper
Gronk (1) - prior keeper at 3
JJ Watt (3) - prior keeper at 7
Mike Evans (5) - drafted last year at 5
Tony Romo (9) - drafted last year at 9
Joseph Randle (24) - f/a pickup
50Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 17, 2015, 17:53
I think Gronk would technically be a 2, not that it matters.

Third round halves to 2 as I understand it.
52GoatLocker
      ID: 404291221
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 08:48
All, I am around and looking.
Will probably put something up in a day or two.
53 swinganamiss
      ID: 47826257
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 11:40
Email in the margin. Harder than I thought to find it on mfl.
54Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 16:43
All dues are now paid except for WG and mjd. See post 27 for details.
55WG
      ID: 539431423
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 18:47
Sorry Guru, I'll send it tonight.

TRADE
WG gets
Mark Ingram, Jonathan Stewart, Round 6

Swinganamiss gets
Jimmy Graham, Rounds 4 and 7
56SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 19:37
Confirmed, and proposed in MFL. But the draft picks are not setup correctly there.
57I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3833219
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 20:08
Tentative keepers:

Andre Johnson (2) - Drafted Last @ 2nd Round
LeVeon Bell (4/3) - Drafted Last @4th Round
Lavonte David (4/3) - Previous Keeper 8th Rounder
Rob Ninkovich (24/23/22) - FA Pickup
Austin Seferian-Jenkins (24/23/22) - FA Pickup
Jordan Reed (24/23/22) - FA Pickup
58I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3833219
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 20:22
Sorry... errors on my part (revised):

Tentative keepers:

Lavonte David (4) - Previous Keeper 8th Rounder
LeVeon Bell (5) - Drafted Last @5th Round
Jonathan Cyprien (24/23/22/21) - FA Pickup
Rob Ninkovich (24/23/22/21) - FA Pickup
Austin Seferian-Jenkins (24/23/22/21) - FA Pickup
Jordan Reed (24/23/22/21) - FA Pickup
59 SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 20:32
Updated Tentative keepers:
Lacy (1) (Prior keeper @2)
AJ Green (1) (Prior keeper @1)
Calvin Johnson (1) (Prior keeper @1)
Jimmy Graham (1) (Prior keeper @1)
Anderson(20) (drafted last year @20)

Still deciding between these guys...
Stafford (2 or 1?) (prior keeper @3)
Doug Martin (1) (prior keeper @1)
Sanders(5) (drafted last year @5)
Mark Ingram(6) (drafted last year @6)
JPP (10) (drafted last year @10)
Stewart(11) (drafted last year @11)
Heath Miller (12) (drafted last year @12)
Ogletree (12) (keeper @24 last year)
Ware(15) (drafted last year @15)
Delanie Walker (18) (drafted last year @18)
Jelani Jenkins (24) (FA pickup)
Jonas Gray(24) (drafted last year @24)
Greenway(24) (FA pickup)
Reshad Jones(24) (FA pickup)

Anyone wants any of these guys, send me a note.
60WG
      ID: 539431423
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 20:34
IAC, I see that Leveon was a keeper at 5 last year so I believe he'd cost a 3 this year.
62I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3833219
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 20:56
Sorry... errors on my part (revised):

Tentative keepers:

LeVeon Bell (3) - Drafted Last @5th Round
Lavonte David (4) - Previous Keeper 8th Rounder
Jonathan Cyprien (24/23/22/21) - FA Pickup
Rob Ninkovich (24/23/22/21) - FA Pickup
Austin Seferian-Jenkins (24/23/22/21) - FA Pickup
Jordan Reed (24/23/22/21) - FA Pickup
63The Beezer
      ID: 475818
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 22:07
Having some issues in MFL, but skeepers and I have agreed to a trade.

skeepers gets Kenny Stills (24)

The Beezer gets skeepers' 10th round pick
64The Beezer
      ID: 475818
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 22:18
I was under the impression that the "rounding down" in the rules for multi year keepers meant that a keeper in an odd round X went to (X-1)/2, not (X+1)/2. For instance, Vampire's listing of JJ Watt going from 7 to 3.

Can anyone else confirm? I looked at last year's thread yet it did not seem clear that was what we did.
65GoatLocker
      ID: 404291221
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 23:04
I've always thought we rounded down.
7=3
5=2
9=4

etc.
of course, that is just off the top of my head.
66Athletics Guy
      ID: 477431822
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 23:43
Beezer and GoatLocker, you are both correct.
68Athletics Guy
      ID: 477431822
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 00:28
Jordy Nelson (2) (Prior Keeper @4)
Jeremy Maclin (10) (Prior Keeper @21)
Eli Manning (13) (Drafted @13)
Brandon LaFell (24) (FA)
Everson Griffen (24) (FA)
Dan Herron (24) (FA)
69 Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 01:11
Keepers
LeSean McCoy (1) Keeper @1
Dez Bryant (1) Keeper @1
Peyton Manning (1) Keeper @1
Frank Gore (1) Keeper @1
Odell Beckham (24) FA - Drafted but dropped between Weeks 1 & 2 and picked up between Weeks 2 & 3.
Calais Campbell (24) FA

Available
Golden Tate (5) Drafted @5
Ben Roethlisberger (9) Drafted @9
Chris Ivory (13) Drafted @13
Julius Thomas (10) Keeper @21
70Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 01:19
If you are keeping a prior keeper, I suggest going back to 2013's draft. For example, Antonio Brown I believe is a 1st rounder now as he was a 5th round keeper 2 years ago in 2013. He was put as a 4th round keeper in 2014's draft because the team kept 3 other 1st/2nd rounders.
71mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 02:07
54-sent
72WG
      ID: 552431321
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 10:36
Sorry, honest mistake. I'll amend.

We should all amend to round down also, correct?
75judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 12:36
Here are the by laws:

Each player chosen in Year X and kept in subsequent years will require a manager to forfeit their original draft pick (or better) in the corresponding Year-X-draft-round the player was chosen in for the year X+1 draft. Beginning in year X+2, keeping the same player will result in the loss of their originaly draft pick (or better) corresponding to the pick from Year X divided in half, rounded down to the nearest whole number. This division and rounding shall apply each subsequent year (X+3, X+4, etc) until keeping a player requires forfeiting a first round pick every year.

corresponding to the pick from Year X divided in half, rounded down to the nearest whole number.

So does an 11 become a 5 or a 6?
76Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 13:02
Sounds like 11 goes to 5
77judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 13:05
73. someone please look at WG keeper list.

Jeffrey is in 11 as a keeper.
Stewart is in 11 as drafted.

Help! Who goes where in MFL draft list?
78judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 13:22
Beeze and Vampire

Fix this in the 2015 draft order please:

Beezer's Heinz 57s / VampireWeekend Trade
Beezer's Heinz 57s gave up Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR
VampireWeekend gave up Year 2015 Round 8 Draft Pick from VampireWeekend

I think to make it even Vamp needs a bottom pick from Beeze???
79Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 14:38
Forget 77 as a specific example because it is not. Oops. Jeffrey goes to 5 or is it 6?


But what if the scenario happened. Who would go where?
80The Beezer
      ID: 24743720
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 20:22
No issues with moving my 24th to VampireWeekend.
81The Beezer
      ID: 24743720
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 20:27
If two players are slotted for the same round, one would go with the next earlier pick. If two players are both 11th round keepers, one would occupy a 10th round slot and the other would occupy the 11th round slot.
82Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 20:40
Beeze go do it!
83Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 20:41
81 thanks for clarifying. Found wording confusing w/o an example...
84The Beezer
      ID: 475818
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 20:56
Offered. Frankly, I am surprised you can offer a trade where you get nothing back. Might get rejected as unbalanced though, eh? :)
85Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 21:33
Do we need polls for trades???
86 mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 21:57
I'm looking to upgrade a keeper perhaps. Been kinda busy, so I haven't looked much yet.

Feel free to contact me. RB or WR.
87SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 22:52
A little birdie reminded me that CJ Anderson was dropped and reacquired during the season, so I revise my tentative keepers slightly...
Updated Tentative keepers:
Lacy (1) (Prior keeper @2)
AJ Green (1) (Prior keeper @1)
Calvin Johnson (1) (Prior keeper @1)
Jimmy Graham (1) (Prior keeper @1)
Anderson(24) (waiver acquisition )
88Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 20, 2015, 12:00
84. Beezer. I think a person might care, but the computer does what it is told to do.
89 Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Thu, Aug 20, 2015, 12:24
Likely keeping:
QB M Ryan (6)
RB L Miller (6 becomes 5)
WR S Watkins (4)
WR A Robinson (24)

Then one of the following group, all available for trade:
RB K Davis (9)
RB A Blue (15)
RB S Ridley (24)
WR B Cooks (1)
WR K Allen (8)
WR J Brown (24)
TE E Ebron (24)
LB C Mosley (14)
LB V Burfict (24)
90Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Thu, Aug 20, 2015, 12:27
Whoops we keep six, so I'm keeping 2 from the group of trade candidates above... just don't know which yet. Let me know if any of them interest you.
91mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Thu, Aug 20, 2015, 13:46
I got a couple of offers, and thanks for responding, but what I'm really looking for is a 24th round keeper. A guy that you picked up on wavers or a FA.

Since everyone is doing their own keeper figuring this year, there's no league chart for me to look at to easily see who might be available.

When you have a shortage of good keepers like I do, I don't mind rolling the dice on a guy with potential that'll only cost me a 24.
92Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 20, 2015, 16:22
Mjd. Yes, sorry. I did not have the time to do that. Folks will need to post round 24 folks for you to look at or email you.

You could compare the draft grid from 2014 with the final rosters carried over to 2015, but that could be a ton of work. Hopefully someone will offer you a FA guy.

You did post here so you might get an offer.
93Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 20, 2015, 19:40
All dues are now paid. Thanks!
94judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Aug 21, 2015, 13:55
Waiver order:

By Laws

Immediately following the draft, undrafted players will be subject to a blind bidding period, with priorities equal to the reverse of the first round draft order.

Will input in a few days, not needed until draft is finished.
95TD
      ID: 587132117
      Fri, Aug 21, 2015, 18:14
Tentative Keepers

Jammaal Charles (1) (Prior keeper @1)
Joique Bell (5) (Prior keeper @11)
Nick Foles (11) (Prior keeper @23)
Fletcher Cox(22) (waiver acquisition)
Latavious Murray(23) (waiver acquisition)
Martavis Bryant(24) (waiver acquisition)

I think I got the rounds correct. I am new to the league so please correct me if I am wrong.
96The Beezer
      ID: 475818
      Fri, Aug 21, 2015, 22:12
Tentative Keepers:

Adrian Peterson (1) (Prior Keeper @1)
Demaryius Thomas (1) (Prior Keeper @1)
Travis Kelce (10) (Drafted 2014 @10)
Robert Quinn (12) (2014 Keeper @24)
Tre Mason (24) (WW pickup)
Justin Forsett (24) (WW pickup)

I was mistaken on Quinn's keeper status - he was a keeper in 2014 instead of a new draft pick.

Still have a couple of players available for draft picks, especially Carlos Dunlap (17) and Davante Adams (24).
97 SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Sun, Aug 23, 2015, 09:52
Still available...
Doug Martin (1) (prior keeper @1)
E Sanders(5) (drafted last year @5)
Heath Miller (12) (drafted last year @12)
Ogletree (12) (keeper @24 last year)
Demarcus Ware(15) (drafted last year @15)
Delanie Walker (18) (drafted last year @18)
Jelani Jenkins (24) (FA pickup)
Jonas Gray(24) (drafted last year @24)
Greenway(24) (FA pickup)
Reshad Jones(24) (FA pickup)

I will keep one of the IDPs above. Still mulling that over.
98Athletics Guy
      ID: 497502314
      Sun, Aug 23, 2015, 15:58
Revised Keepers:

Jeremy Maclin (10) (Prior Keeper @21)
Eli Manning (13) (Drafted @13)
KJ Wright (24) (FA)
Brandon LaFell (24) (FA)
Everson Griffen (24) (FA)
Dan Herron (24) (FA)
99Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 23, 2015, 17:23
[94] Just as a point of clarification, I think those priorities only apply in the event of a tie for a bid amount.
100Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 23, 2015, 17:28
What is the keeper deadline? I see it listed as Aug 24 above [24] - I presume that means midnight ET on Monday night?
101judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Aug 23, 2015, 17:51
This is what the calendar says. I changed the date, but left the time the same:

Keeper Declarations Mon Aug 24 11:45:00 p.m. ET 2015
102GoatLocker
      ID: 404291221
      Sun, Aug 23, 2015, 20:24
OK, guess it is time to make a commitment here.

Tentative keepers:

Matt Forte, RB (1) (prior keeper)
Julian Edelman, WR (3) (drafted last year @ 3)
Carlos Hyde, RB (4) (drafted last year @ 4)
Martellus Bennett, TE (6) (prior keeper @ 13)
Stevie Johnson, WR (24) (f/a pickup)
Charles Woodson, S (24) (f/a pickup)
103 WG
      ID: 40762417
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 18:06
I'm still looking to add another keeper if anyone is interested in trying to work out a last minute deal.

104 SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 18:47
Why the early keeper deadline? Last year I see that you only had about 8 hours between keeper deadline and draft start.
105judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 19:29
because I have to manually enter each keeper into their proper slot in the draft, player by player... 6 times 14 is 84 and then I need you guys to be sure I didn't make any mistakes.

not aware of last years calendar cause i didn't do it...
106WG
      ID: 40762417
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 20:49
TRADE

WG gets Jarvis Landry
Judy gets WG's 9th rounder
107WG
      ID: 40762417
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 20:50
UPDATED KEEPERS:

1 - Antonio Brown (keeper 2)
5 - Alshon Jeffrey (keeper 11)
6 - Mark Ingram (drafted 6)
11 - Jonathan Stewart (drafted 11)
15 - Jarvis Landry (drafted 15)
24 - Ezekial Ansah (FA)
108mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 20:55
mjd keepers

A Luck(1)-1st rd keeper
J Hill(3)-3rd rd draft
D Hopkins(9)-drafted 9th
J Houston(16)-drafted 16th
D Adams(23)-free agent via trade
A Williams(24)-free agent

I drafted Andre Williams in the 5th rd last year, dropped on 9/24, passed through blind bidding, and reacquired as a f/a 10/1.

If Williams is not OK at 24, I'll pick someone else.
109TD
      ID: 55540220
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 21:41
Updated Keepers

Jammaal Charles (1) (Prior keeper @1)
Joique Bell (5) (Prior keeper @11)
Ben Roethlisberger (9) (Drafted @9)
Fletcher Cox(22) (waiver acquisition)
Latavious Murray(23) (waiver acquisition)
Martavis Bryant(24) (waiver acquisition)

Ben Roethlisberger will be acquired in trade with Da Bomb Squad.


110 Swinganamiss
      ID: 417352422
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 23:36
I hear u judy. Do what u need to do. I Just think it's better to keep options open as long as possible in a league like this.

If ogletree gets dinged up with even a 3 week injury, I might want to keep someone else. No reason to require some catastrophic injury. It's not like more than a few of the 84 will have an injury in the next week.

Anyway...please add ogletree(12) as my last keeper.
111Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 23:44
WR B Cooks (1)
WR S Watkins (4)
RB L Miller (6 becomes 5)
QB M Ryan (6)
WR J Brown (24 becomes 23)
WR A Robinson (24)
112Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 23:45
Actually, drop Cooks, keep Mosley (14)
113judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 07:35
injured players out for season, can be replaced!
114judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 07:37
don't forget o add them in MFL

reports--> franshice--> keepers

I am out all day today so won't be checking until probably after 9 o'clock -- except to draft if needed in AA...
115Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 10:29
minor RIFC scoring adjustments for 2015

This league has always mirrored the scoring for the RIFC league, so I'll make these adjustments to the scoring for this league as well.
116Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 11:40
For those of you who will be using your phone for much of the draft, there is a free app called MFL Platinum that should be a much better option than going through the browser interface.

It's apparently available for both android and iPhone.

It seems as though every year we have one or two phone-related draft snafus. This may help alleviate that.
117Boikin
      ID: 87122511
      Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 12:12
skeepers keepers

Rivers, Philip SDC QB
Latimer, Cody DEN WR
Smith, Steve BAL WR
Stills, Kenny MIA WR
Robinson, Denard JAC RB
118Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 22:42
104 and 105

From the by laws:


Keepers must be declared either at the RotoGuru Message Forum in the appropriate thread or by e-mailing the commissioner. The deadline for these declarations shall be one week before the official start of the draft. An exact date for this will be stipulated each season and the Commissioner will notify managers in advance.
119 SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 23:09
Judy, you don't have to explain the rules. I read the rules. I also read the thread from last year and the 2013 season. Even in 2013 the keeper deadline was Friday night for a Sunday morning draft start.

The bylaws are a product of the pain to do the setup (maybe the old commish was an expert at the setup or maybe the pain itself has reduced over the years), but I don't see the reason to get all "you will have 24 hours to point out errors. Then you are stuck." and "any of your guys suffers a catastrophic injury before the draft, we can swap him out. My thought are catastrophic is 'out for the season' ”

What's the point to be so strict? If I decided tomorrow that I wanted to keep JPP instead of Ogletree, even if it's "just because I want a guy with 9 fingers on my team," what's the harm ?

I will abide by whatever the league and commish are saying, but I can still inquire about why we are suddenly following a rule that hasn't been followed for the last 2 years, at least.

Thanks for all the work you do as commish. I do not want to keep JPP!
120Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 08:04
Swing
I am just following what I thought to be the rules, I was just an owner last year and to help save this league I volunteered to help commish it. I did not have time to look over last year's threads. As far as I am concerned you can do what you want with JPP. I won't get to the keeper list probably until tomorrow due to things in my real life. I just kept the original deadline in the By laws because that is all I knew.

Catastrophic I thought was following guru's proposal due to the early drafts and the late start. 24 guys have blown ACL's already!!!

Just know that when I get time I will update the spreadsheet, send it out to be sure I am correct and then I will hope that everyone has entered their keepers in MFL and hit the keep keepers button and THEN you are stuck.

It is the owners responsibility to select keepers in MFL.

This is not an easy league to commish pre draft and I am trying to do it correctly.
121Boikin
      ID: 87122511
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 13:23
here are the rounds with the keepers

Rivers, Philip SDC QB 15
Latimer, Cody DEN WR 24
Smith, Steve BAL WR 24
Stills, Kenny MIA WR 24
Robinson, Denard JAC RB 24
122judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 13:32
corrected skeepers list

Rivers keeper @15 goes to 7
Smith drafter at 14, stays
others were FA
123mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 18:23
No IDP keeper for skeepers?
124 VampireWeekend
      ID: 77262617
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 18:26
Only need IDP if keeping 6.
125judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 19:15
true that. i checked.
126SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 19:57
I think Leveon Bell should be a 2, correct? He was a 5 last year.
127GoatLocker
      ID: 404291221
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 20:32
Judy,
Your spreadsheet does not show Matt Forte as my Keeper in Rd 1.
I did check and he is marked.
128Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 20:46
Goat - Forte shows up in my copy of the sheet.
129GoatLocker
      ID: 404291221
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 21:14
Dave,
Thanks, I see him now too, but didn't earlier. Might have been something to do with being on my phone, but did see all the others.
130Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 22:37
126. Will fix.
131SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 22:55
On the spreadsheet, it still shows Cooks as a keeper. In post 112 it was changed to Mosley.

I think I must owe WG a 24th round pick to compensate for the trade in post 55.
132judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 23:27
got the mosley pick -- whoever he is...

Have not heard back from
doug
skeepers
TD
Oaktown
WG
133WG
      ID: 552431321
      Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 09:49
Sorry, mine is good
134Athletics Guy
      ID: 347342712
      Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 13:34
Judy, I already sent you an email. You even responded to it.
135judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 14:03
sorry Athletics, just realized you were Oaktown
136Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 27, 2015, 21:44
Won't get to inputting keepers until Friday afternoon. Sorry.

It is ready to go, but need block of time...
137swinganamiss
      ID: 47826257
      Fri, Aug 28, 2015, 14:44
Judy, sorry but I think I need to give 24.13 to wg from our trade, and u would move cj to 23.13. If I should offer trade or something let me know.
138judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Fri, Aug 28, 2015, 15:24
swing --

looks like I forgot to do your keepers...so I traded the pick and did them.

How lucky was THAT?

It looks like once I enter the keepers they are stuck there -- I do not see an undo function...

hopefully no more errors...
140GoatLocker
      ID: 404291221
      Fri, Aug 28, 2015, 23:18
Judy,
Julian Edelman is 3.01, not 2.01 as you have in the draft.

Just got home.
Hope this can be fixed.
141SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 10:37
I think the trade picks have not all gone through correctly--at least in my case.
I should have WGs 4th and 7th. He should have my 6th and 24th.
It's not showing that way. Let me know if we should re-propose the trade.
142SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 10:42
Here's the transaction log. I think it got lost because I used the "Year 2015 Round 6" instead of "6.09".
Back when the trade was made, WG had 6.14, as a carryover from 2014(instead of 6.09).

17. SwinganaMiss / WG Trade

SwinganaMiss gave up Ingram, Mark NOS RB;Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB; Year 2015 Round 6 Draft Pick from SwinganaMiss
WG gave up Graham, Jimmy SEA TE; Year 2015 Round 4 Draft Pick from WG;Year 2015 Round 7 Draft Pick from WG

Wed Aug 19 8:39:40 p.m. ET 2015
143SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 10:50
Now, one more question as a newbie.

How do you place keepers, when a team has two picks in the same round?
For instance, Beezer has 2 10th round picks and 2 12th round picks.
I see you have placed his keepers at the later pick of each round.
10.03 and 10.06, keeper placed at 10.06.
12.06 and 12.08, keeper placed at 12.08.

I don't know if this is consistent with years past. Hopefully someone knows.
144The Beezer
      ID: 475818
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 11:01
You can use the later pick in each round if you have multiple picks in a single round.
145Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 12:43
Is that what we decided? I thought it was your original draft slotted pick or else your next earliest pick (regardless of whether that's same round)... but I could be wrong on that. I remember it was debated in a prior year, but maybe what Beezer said was the outcome instead.
146GoatLocker
      ID: 404291221
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 13:24
Looks good now Judy.
Thanks for the assist.
147Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 13:40
I kind of remember it as Doug stated, although that may not be where the issue was finally settled. Doesn't appear to be mentioned in the posted rules at mfl.com.
148mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 14:15
I remember I had three 12th rd guys a couple of years ago. First two cost a 12 and a 13. Third guy cost an 11th.
149Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 15:18
I put the keeper into the later pick. Should I be changing it back?

I have no guideline...??

150Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 15:21
I am ready to push draft button.

Do you want me to redo the double slot positioning?
151Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 15:23
Swing are the players correct? If so just propose a trade involving draft slots.

Let me know when finished. I can change to make it immediate,
152SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 15:43
I have proposed the trade
153judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 16:20
trade approved.

Are we accepting this?

You can use the later pick in each round if you have multiple picks in a single round.

This is what I believe I did.

Once I get clearance on this I can start the draft...
154Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 16:32
The process for filling multiple spots doesn't seem to be documented, so I guess it's "Commissioner's choice".

Skimming over the picks as they stand now, the differences are so minimal that I'd suggest we just move on. Anyone who doesn't like it can volunteer to be the next commissioner.
155SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 16:38
It says
Each player chosen in Year X and kept in subsequent years will require a manager to forfeit their original draft pick (or better) in the corresponding Year-X-draft-round
the player was chosen in for the year X+1 draft.
156SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 16:42
and the rule has been changed since the 2012 rules, as I was browsing around in the 2012 thread to figure it out.

It used to just say forfeit a draft pick in the corresponding Year-X-draft-round the player
157The Beezer
      ID: 10735519
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 16:44
Ah, totally missed that Swing! It looks like I need to move Quinn to 12.06 instead of 12.08.
158Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 17:06
Forfeit a draft pick? Huh?

I am so confused!
159Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 17:13
You forfeit the pick because it is used for a keeper instead.
160VW
      ID: 267132916
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 17:13
Forfeit meaning spot is taken up by said keeper...
161SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 17:14
forfeit their original draft pick (or better)

means....

Beezer should use(forfeit) 12.06 (or better) for keeping Quinn, since Beezer's slot in the draft is 06.

He can use 10.06 or better, to keep Kelce. Obviously he would choose to use 10.06 instead of 10.03.
162SwinganaMiss
      ID: 53747622
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 17:22
This also affects WG, after his trade with me (He now has 2 Rd 6 picks). Otherwise, I wouldn't have even inquired about the rule in the first place. Sorry to stir up trouble!

163Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 17:31
I am going out for a coupla hours. Will see who needs fixing when I get back...
164judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Sun, Aug 30, 2015, 23:02
Fixed Beezer, Did not hear from anyone else.

Draft starts Sunday 8 am untimed for now...

good luck everyone...
166judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 31, 2015, 07:10
Since it has been 5 hours since the last pick was made -- despite email reminders -- I was going to turn on a 6 hour clock. But if I do it, the current pick would be made -- which I assume means skipped --...

Also the draft does not officially open until 8 am today. Hopefully WG will pick ASAP!
167Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Sep 05, 2015, 18:23
What the heck am I doing with seven (7!) RB and only 4 WR? It means I am clueless and not paying attention...
Sigh.
168Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Sun, Sep 06, 2015, 13:20
Can't see how to make my pick now but I'm taking Aaron Donald at 22.02... Timer Expired in the 5 minutes from when I logged on to when I submitted my pick
169Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Sep 06, 2015, 13:30
I just pushed Donald in. It takes someone with commish powers to do that.

I'm heading out for the day, so its unlikely I'll be able to accommodate more skipped picks in the next 6-8 hours.



170Athletics Guy
      ID: 528112417
      Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 18:11
Yes! I got 3 extra rush/rec yards somewhere from stat corrections. The 0.3 pts gave me a narrow victory over Ghostwood!
171Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 22:54
What???!!!! Gotta go look!!!!
172Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 22:57
Oh, week two. Yeah lost both by a total of 4 point... Unlucky...
173Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 20:58
Hey I need those Julio fumble recovery TD points. Should be 8 more for me!!!
174Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 00:30
Do we want to add this scoring rule?

Question
1. Why didn't I get points for an offensive player like a QB, RB or WR recovering a fumble from one of his teammates (or, his own fumble) in the end zone for a touchdown?
Answer: On Sunday of Week 5, the Falcons scored a TD when Devonta Freeman fumbled the ball on a rushing play, and the ball rolled into the end zone, and then Julio Jones fell on it for a touchdown. (side note - Freeman also scored a 6 yard Rushing TD on a totally different play in the same game).

This TD by Jones is considered to be an "Offensive Fumble Recovery TD" for the player. So you'll have to add that rule to your scoring on the Reports > Rules > League Scoring screen as needed if you want this to count for your league.

You can use either of these rules:
"Number of Offensive Fumble Recovery TDs"
or
"Length of Offensive Fumble Recovery TD". Since 0 yard offensive fumble recoveries can happen when a player falls on the ball in the end zone, be sure to make the scoring for this start at zero yards, and go all of the way up to 100 yards.

After you make the change to your rules, the system will put a confirmation message on your league home page, and that will allow you to choose whether or not to apply the new rule changes to all weeks or just future weeks. Note that the same type of play happened last week when Ed Dickson of the Panthers recovered a 57 yard Offensive Fumble and Scored a TD. You can view all of these types of unusual plays on the "Help > Strange Plays" menu item in your league.



175I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3833219
      Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 00:36
when TDs happen... we should try to make them work in all scenarios (keeping in mind, it shouldn't ever apply to the current season being played; all rule adjustments should be considered for NEXT year IMHO).
177Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 10:15
The RIFC rule has always been that ALL TD's scored count for 6 points, regardless of type. I'm guessing that MFL added this category sometime in the last few years, and I didn't notice it at the time. I have already amended the scoring setup for all of the RIFC leagues to include this type of TD.

No points for the fumble recovery, though. You only get points for recovering a fumble from the opponent.

So, I would argue that we should change the setup to include fumble recovery TDs. I don't look at this as a scoring rule change; it's a way to allow the system to automatically score something that would previously have been a manual adjustment.
178Athletics Guy
      ID: 48961317
      Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 18:06
As Guru said, it was probably a change by MFL. We've always counted all touchdowns.
179mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 19:02
Agree with both 177 and 178.
180Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 23:37
I need a couple TFL to counter sam's minus 0.4 kneel downs...I think hicks has at least one...

It's 99.80 to 98.78...

Come on man!
181The Beezer
      ID: 581011517
      Thu, Nov 05, 2015, 18:12
I feel compelled to point out how ridiculously tight the standings are right now. WG at 10-6, 8(!) teams at 9-7, GL at 8-8, and 2 teams at 7-9. 12 teams within 3 games of first place!
182Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Thu, Dec 03, 2015, 17:01
Heading into final week of season, it'll take a minimum 13 wins to make the top 6 spots (based on record). So all but 4 teams could make it on record... but more likely it will take 14 or 15 wins to make the top 6.

Of the bottom 4 teams, TD Dragons still has a strong chance to make it in based on points with a strong game this week. Must have lost a lot of close games... only a -0.5 point differential, but somehow that translates to 8-16. By contrast, I'm sitting on a -6.8 point differential but have somehow stumbled my way to 14-10.

Guru has a +0.5 point differential, but alas a 10-14 record to show for it... looks like we all took it easy on him with the lowest average PA this season (and I have the "honor" of the highest PA this year).
183Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Dec 05, 2015, 22:20
F. PLAYOFFS

8 teams

Top 6 W/L records plus the 2 teams with the highest total points (outside of the top 6 W/L) make the playoffs.

The top 4 W/L records are seeded 1-4.
The 5-8 seeds are set based on highest to lowest total points.

Teams with equivalent W/L records are seeded based on total points

Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)

If a playoff game ends in a tie score, the team with the better seed shall advance.

Teams which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.
184Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Dec 05, 2015, 22:28
And this:

G. CONSOLATION BOWL AND DRAFT ORDER

A Consolation Bracket will be established for the 4 lowest ranked teams at the end of the regular season (using regular season W/L%). The teams will be seeded 1-4. In NFL Week 14, Seed 1 plays Seed 4 and Seed 2 plays Seed 3. The winners of those two games play in NFL Week 15 in the Toilet Bowl.

Draft slot 1 will be the winner of the Toilet Bowl.
Draft slots 2 through 6 will be comprised of non playoff teams sorted by reverse of the previous regular season's points for total.
Draft slots 7 through 13 will be comprised of playoff teams sorted by the reverse of the previous season's playoff seeding.
Draft slot 14 will be the winner of the previous season's playoff.

The draft will maintain the same order every round throughout (it will not snake).
185Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Dec 17, 2015, 10:39
Scoring changes caused a flip in one of the playoff games. IAC now wins by .02 (previously lost by 1.98)
186The Beezer
      ID: 0944216
      Thu, Dec 17, 2015, 13:33
Ugh! That one stings!
187Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Dec 17, 2015, 15:11
Not sure why Beezer's waiver claims were processed. I thought that eliminating his ability to make add/drop transactions would trump any claims already placed. Apparently not.

So, I guess I have to reverse those two processed claims.
188mjd
      ID: 23182817
      Thu, Dec 17, 2015, 16:29
Gotta love H2H.

Not as bad as Beezer, but my #2 scoring week was trumped by the #1 scorer.
189Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Dec 20, 2015, 18:07
187

Huh?
Thanks guru, but I don't see a reversal...?
190Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Dec 21, 2015, 11:04
189 - first I deleted the waiver claims. Turns out that only deleted the record of them, but did not actually reverse the transaction. Not sure what the point of that capability is. Cosmetics only.

So then I put through another transaction that actually accomplished the reversal. You can see the Beezer reversals, dropping Cousins and Whittaker, adding (back) Herron and Thompson.

So the reversal transaction now shows up, even though the record of the original claim has disappeared.
191Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Wed, Dec 23, 2015, 10:54
Good luck to WG in the final... I'm clearly the underdog here. But I'm in the championship game in 5 of my 7 leagues this year, so maybe luck will continue to be on my side.
192The Beezer
      ID: 475818
      Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 10:02
Congrats Doug! It is great to see an original member break through and grab the brass ring!

While I have greatly enjoyed this league since it started in 2007, it is time for me to step away. I have a ton of respect for this league and everyone in it, so I wanted to give as much lead time as possible to find a good replacement. Thanks for 9 great seasons!
193Doug
      ID: 19613816
      Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 10:28
Thanks Beezer, and sorry to see you go. You've been a great manager for a long time, and thank you for helping make this such a great league.

I have struggled more in this league over the years than any of my other leagues... perhaps that is just a testament to the quality of the other managers here and just how much more difficult it is to get a sleeper or key WW pickup.

Amazingly to me, I won all 5 of my championship games yesterday. It's been quite a year for me in Fantasy Football! 6 of my 7 leagues (and 4 of 5 championships) originate from these boards, so a big thanks again to Guru and the whole community for making this such a fun place to share our love of this game... both in the good years and the years we struggle! If this wasn't such a solid group of managers I probably wouldn't push through all those struggle years to be able to enjoy a year like this one.
194I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 6623011
      Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 10:36
Congrats Doug!
195Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Jan 01, 2016, 09:29
'Grats doug.

Sorry to see you go Beezer

My team finally showed up the last three weeks...enuf to get the #1 pick!!!
196Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Jan 02, 2016, 11:52
Judy - your #1 pick probably won't do you much good. If you hold onto Lynch, J. Jones, R. Wilson, and Morris again, you won't have a pick in the first four rounds.

I'll probably be blowing up my roster this off-season, jettisoning the guys who are taking up my top picks, and keeping guys with much deeper picks. That means that Aaron Rodgers(1), R. Cobb(1), & TY Hilton(2) will probably be available for pre-draft trades.
197WG
      ID: 57039212
      Sat, Jan 02, 2016, 13:40
Congrats Doug! I stupidly left Alshon in and was afraid that that would cost me the win, but the guy I would have used instead (Diggs) only went 4-19 so I would have lost anyway. I was debating Earl Thomas and Harrison Smith to replace Tyrann Mathieu, and Smith had a TD so I think I may have won if I went with him over Thomas; or both Smith and Diggs. Alas, it was not meant to be. You had a great team and a great season, so congrats on the victory and championship!
198Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Jan 05, 2016, 17:13
Guru,

Yeah I realize that but it is fun to say I have the first pick...
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