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0 Subject: 2019 G24

Posted by: Judy
- [35493114] Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 14:31

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1Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 14:32
Rosters have been transferred over from 2018.

I need to delete any acquisitions made during playoffs. Later.
2Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 14:33

NEW ORLEANS SAINTS/Toral IN.
3Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 14:33
AZ Cardinals / Judy are IN!

Looking to rebound after a disappointing season...
4promizeone
      ID: 35661517
      Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 18:06
Seahawks / Promizeone
5Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 19:12
Here with the Lions
6 ttucowboy
      ID: 126401518
      Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 19:41
Dallas Cowboys are back! Also have the following players on the block if anyone is interested:

Ben Roethlisberger
Jaylen Samuels
Carlos Hyde
Golden Tate
Curtis Samuel
Keanu Neal
Budda Baker

Open to anything so feel free to message me if interested.
7Bobo
      ID: 230312410
      Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 22:37
Minnesota Vikings are in!
8GO
      ID: 112192620
      Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 22:42
Jets are in and QB shopping...
9 taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 23:48
Houston Texans are in
10GoatLocker
      ID: 1615517
      Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 19:32
San Diego Chargers / GoatLocker In
11youngroman
      ID: 301342313
      Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 11:05
Bengals are in
12 SwinganaMiss
      ID: 402572821
      Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 14:27
Ravens are in
13WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 23:05
KC Chiefs in
14 Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 08:36
Denver is in, and i've got players on the block!

i'm also looking to make some moves - several off-season moves in the NFL boded well for my team (Howard leaving the Bears, Ingram signing with the Ravens, and ODB leaving NYG, not to mention Quinn looking like the 'Skins slot guy and Martin re-signing with the Raiders because Crowell got hurt), so i feel as though i have a surplus.

i'm mostly looking for picks, although multi-player deals aren't out of the question. i'm game for upgrades.

among those available:
Tom Brady
AJ Green
Doug Martin
Kenneth Dixon
Trey Quinn
Sterling Shepherd
Greg Olsen
Michael Gallup

CJ Mosley
Avery Williamson
Jaylon Smith
15Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 16:15
These teams still need to sign into MFL:
Baltimore
Buffalo
Jacksonville
Eagles
KC
SF
Dallas
Detroit
Minnesota
Oakland

Thank.s

If you need another invite, l let me know...
16 deepsnapper
      ID: 151133618
      Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 12:24
Eagles are in, Thanks Judy
17skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 13:24
Packers are IN!
18Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 16:35
Just to make sure that my memory isn't faulty, we are removing team D this season, and having a separate one-round IDP draft based on the preseason projections of teams' current team defenses, correct?
19Doug
      ID: 466112218
      Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 19:32
How many do we keep again, 9? And any restrictions (like, does one need to be on D?)

Available for trade discussions:
QB J Rosen
RB K Drake
RB L Miller
RB R Burkhead
RB G Edwards
WR S Watkins
WR J Gordon
TE J Cook
DL T Flowers
20 Doug
      ID: 466112218
      Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 19:33
<-- email
21twolves
      ID: 12622209
      Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 19:50
SF 49ers/twolves are in
22skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 15:08
Nerf re:18, yes this is the year we get rid of Team Def and have a 1 round supplemental draft for IDP. I don't believe we came to a final decision, but the consensus as I recall was to use a popular ranking site like Fantasypros.com to use as a preseason ranking.

Fantasy Pros has their preseason rankings up now, and from prior use of their site I don't recall that they make many changes if any at all for Team D rankings. So what they have up now is probably going to be the same in a few weeks time. I think we should pick a date for the draft and then whatever the rankings are on that date is the order we will use for the 1 round supplemental draft.
23Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 16:02
I assume that we will do this draft after keepers, and before the supplemental draft? Are rookies eligible in the IDP draft?
24Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 16:34
Skinner and nerf
Thanks for the reminder — totally forgot about that...

I’ll need to change the roster requirements...
No DST.
One more flex IDP...

Right?

Great question Nerf
I think rookies/everyone should should be available...
Will send email out so folks remember this and can comment...

I think we can use one round of draftime for free to get the IDP pick out of the way quickly???
Especially since the order will be different than the regular draft.

Yes IDP needs to be after keepers announced. No position requirement for keepers.

can one of you post the current ranking list and give your source? Question.
25Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 16:40
FYI
MFL 2018 DST points ranking can be found here. Just points.

https://www59.myfantasyleague.com/2019/options?O=08&SEARCHTYPE=ADVANCED&POSITION=Def&DISPLAY=Defenses&L=35231&SORT=TOT
26Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 16:41
Oops not a link..so just go to home page and look it up under
Reports —> players
27Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 16:48
Here are fantasy football today 2019 projections:

https://fftoday.com/rankings/playerproj.php?PosID=99

Here it is using our league scoring for 2019:
(Haven’t looked to see differences)

https://fftoday.com/mflpower/playerrank.php?MFL=35231&Year=2019&Pos=Offense
28Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 16:49
Yes

FFT can find our MFL league (#35231) and rank it...

Cool!
30Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 17:04
Commissioner Judith:

2018 DST results are irrelevant: What counts are 2019 projections.

The rule is here:

"Beginning in 2019, the roster position of Team Defense (aka D/ST) will
be abolished. An additional IDP position will be added, and the IDP
configuration will become 1 DL - 2 LB - 2 DB - 1 Flex. After keepers have
been selected and before the draft in the year the proposal comes into
effect, a SPECIAL ONE-ROUND ONE-TIME-ONLY IDP Draft will be held.
Any IDP who has not been kept by a team may be chosen in that draft.
To determine the order of drafting in that round, the projected rankings
of the Team Defenses owned in the league at the end of the previous
regular season will be determined according to the "Fantasy Pros"
website, or in some similar manner determined by the Commissioner. If a
team owns 2 or more team defenses at the end of the regular season, its
best ranked team defense will be used. The special draft order will start
with the team with the best ranked team defense and proceed down the
rankings, with the last pick going to the team with the worst ranked
team defense. Because one player will be picked by its team before the
supplemental draft starts, the draft will be one round shorter than usual;
otherwise it will be conducted in the usual manner."

It was Slizz's idea to use Fantasy Pros projections. I adapted it becuz Fantasy Pros projections do not use our scoring settings. There are propietrary sites that can adapt their projections -- e.g, "Football Guys", which I highly recommend.

Notice, Madam Commissioner, that the rule was drafted to leave the decision in your hands -- your decision, no way to overturn it or overrule it.

Toral
31Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 17:10

I should note that I am not *recommending* using Football Guys projections. I felt it best to give our beloved commissioner the option to choose.
32Kyle
      Leader
      ID: 052753312
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 17:14
Indy is back for another season.

My current keepers are looking to be the following. If anyone is interested in a swap or you have a bonus player or two that you want a midround draft pick for, I'm open for business.

Duke Johnson
James White
Robby Anderson
Tyreek Hill
Marvin Jones
LaVonte David
Bobby Wagner
Dont'a Hightower
Justin Reid
33 Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 17:23

New Orleans Saints will be *needing* keeper-quality players. We are as bereft as the Yankee farm system was in 1965 after Del Webb had decided to sell the team, and so, dismantled the Yankee scouting programme. Keep this in mind before you trade any.
34Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 18:25
Carolina Panthers / Thumper in!

Looking to swap a RB for a comparable WR. My RB’s are James Conner, Derick Henry and Derrius Guice
35WG
      ID: 53213822
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 19:48
I clicked the link to join but it said I was already a member of the league.
36Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 20:48
Yikes Toral

No no no! It’s judy

We get one round of draftime free. I can set the IDP order there. It is a very efficient system — assuming people do not pick someone else’s keeper. But I might be able to maneuver that.

The regular draft is on MFL and it will have a separate order. Once the draftime is done and the keepers are added to your roster, the regular MFL draft can begin!
37Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 20:57
WG. You are all set. I think if you sign into one league it signs you in to all...
38Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 06:46

Actually in Draftime you could just remove the IDP keepers from the player pool, ensuring no draft by mistake.

It sounds like more work for you than just listing the keepers at the top of the thread on the message board and draftime there. But whatever is easiedt for you is fine.
39 taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 18:21
Thumqer..let's talk.. need to post your e-mail address

I have:

Antonio Brown
T Y Hilton
Dede Westbrook

Looking for quality RB
40Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 19:01
Wow, I hadn't realized how bare the cupboard has gotten. My roster is not looking so hot! My probable keepers are:

Stafford
Gurley
Allison
Jackson
Alonso
2 of Murray, Lee, or Stills
Herndon
last spot is up in the air.

I'm looking for a WR better than any of the above, which shouldn't actually be hard to find!
41SwinganaMiss
      ID: 402572821
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 12:44
Personally, I think rookies should be excluded from the supplemental draft. Not sure if it's worth a vote or is just up to executive decision.
42Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 13:36
For Reference - 2019 Fantasypros DST Consensus Rankings:

1. Chicago Bears
2. Jacksonville Jaguars
3. Los Angeles Rams
4. Minnesota Vikings
5. Baltimore Ravens
6. Los Angeles Chargers
7. Houston Texans
8. Cleveland Browns
9. New Orleans Saints
10. Denver Broncos
11. Buffalo Bills
12. New England Patriots
13. Dallas Cowboys
14. Seattle Seahawks
15. Philadelphia Eagles
16. Tennessee Titans
17. Pittsburgh Steelers
18. Indianapolis Colts
19. Kansas City Chiefs
20. Green Bay Packers
21. Carolina Panthers
22. Atlanta Falcons
23. New York Jets
24. Washington Redskins
25. Arizona Cardinals
26. Detroit Lions
27. San Francisco 49ers
28. New York Giants
29. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
30. Miami Dolphins
31. Cincinnati Bengals
32. Oakland Raiders
43Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 13:40
Thumqer picks 1.01 in the 1 rd IDP draft. Congrats dude!

When selecting or posting your keepers just put the DST you are cutting and we can create a separate thread for the IDP draft.

One thing we never discussed in the elimination of the DST vote is whether Rookies are allowed to be taken in the 1 rd special IDP draft...or are they subject to the supplemental only...
44Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 13:41
My contention is that the supplemental draft is the place for rookies but don’t care either way.
45SwinganaMiss
      ID: 402572821
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 13:57
Ok, I meant special 1 rd idp draft. I think the rookies should be excluded.
46Doug
      ID: 466112218
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 14:15
I agree, I think I expected Rookies would not be part of the IDP Draft when thinking about how to value Team D last year.
47Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 14:18
I can see both sides. Those with top 5 picks are losing a pretty significant keeper. The only significant IDP's leftover would the rookies, and they are often not immediate impacts. I lean towards leaving them in.
48skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 15:02
I was a little disappointed in the Titans preseason rankings unfortunately as they performed fairly well the second half last year as 4th best in our scoring system. ESPN and MFL both have them 12 this year, so guess FantasyPros is the lowest ranked among them at 16.
49SwinganaMiss
      ID: 402572821
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 16:03
Lets eliminate kicker next year and give the team with the best kicker ranking the 1.01 in a one round offensive player only special draft, including rookies. Zeurlein and gostkowski will be first rd picks this year for sure. Maybe a bunch more kickers too!
50Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 16:58
Just summarizing the discussion in the email spam and adding a few of my own questions.

1. It's okay to trade your DST's before the draft, if someone wants to move up

Q: What happens if you trade your only/all DST's and are left with none? End of draft? No draft at all?

2. Straight fantasy-pros rankings vs. adjusting their projections for our scoring.

Q: Which one is more fair? I'd say the latter.

3. Confirm we get 9 keepers, plus the IDP round. The regular supp. draft is then only 10 rounds.

I have 2 extra DST's - the Packers, ranked 20 above, and the Cardinals, ranked 25 - in case anyone is stuck at the back and wants to move up a few slots.
51Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 17:31
Thanks for summarizing Nerf...I agree with Torals earlier point (via email): THE LIST:

I guess Fantasy Pros should be used. It's not set for our scoring system. My Team D ranks 8 placess higher projecting under our scoring system. But that's just tough bananas for here.

The problem with a vote on some other list is that everyone has an interest now.
52GO
      ID: 14143919
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 20:52
IDP rookies should not be included... I view the purpose of this as to convert an asset owned from year end 2018 and establish a similarly valued asset picked from a pool of available talent (different position) which was also utilized in 2018.
53Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 15602520
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 21:00
Slow to the trigger...

Jags are in. Will try to get caught up
54TD
      ID: 53602521
      Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 22:00
New York Giants are in.
55Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 13:10
Do we need to vote about the rookies in IDP draft?
56skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 13:46
If we have to have a vote on whether rookies are allowed for this 1 round supplemental round, then we probably need to delay the elimination of the D/ST for another year. When I originally proposed this solution for replacement value of the Defense unit vs just eliminating the position, it was intended to include anyone who was available after keepers had been selected. That includes any rookies.

The mechanics were simple, keep your 9 players, then select the 1 D/ST on your roster that you want to replace (obviously the higher ranked one), and then when it's your turn to pick select the IDP you want for replacement. It was never going to be a true replacement value since some Def are much more valuable than others, but at least there was some semblance of equal value replaced. The pool is likely to already be watered down as more IDPs may be kept than other years I imagine, so the managers giving up the best defenses would be able to select the best IDP replacement value possible. This is a 1 year issue and then we don't have to worry about it again.
57Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 13:51

We need something, either a vote or a binding interpretation by from you.

I took some time mulling over the actual wording of the rule. It seems susceptible of either interpretation.

"Any IDP who has not been kept by a team may be chosen in that draft."

INTERPRETATION A:

Let consider Joe Rookie, IDP. Is he an IDP? Yes. Was he kept by a team? No. Therefore he can be chosen.

INTERPRETATION B

A little more subtle. What is the import of the term "who has not been kept by a team". Does it not suggest that the player must have been capable of being kept by a team, i.e., not be a rookie? Why else would the rule say "who has not been kept by a team". Would anything think that an IDP who HAD been kept by a team could be drafted anyway?
-----------------------------------------------

There is no obvious solution to be found in an individual owner's statements about what they thought they were voting for, which are on an individual basis irrelevant, or conjecture about the purpose of the rule, which could go either way.

Judy, this is why you make the big bucks.

58ttucowboy
      ID: 356432512
      Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 14:14
Let’s just include rookies and not delay this any further. I don’t see a valid reason not to include them. People with top defenses are losing that advantage. They should be compensated accordingly and have the option to pick from any IDPs available after keepers are declared...including rookies. Not including rookies is a bit of a slap in the face to the intended purpose of this idea to begin with..
59ttucowboy
      ID: 356432512
      Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 14:19
52: Disagree 100%. Why are we using projections for 2019 as the rankings for D/ST? The reason is because we’re establishing a fair value for that asset coming into this year. Thus, all IDPs not being kept should be available along with rookies. How can we value something for 2019 and not include the entire 2019 player pool for compensation. Makes zero sense.
60Doug
      ID: 11740813
      Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 14:25
There are no good options. Include, exclude, or delay a year... with each approach some managers are going to feel as if the rules have been changed from under them and that they might have made different choices had they known.
61Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 16:06
the rules didn't change if we don't change them.

the original rules as written don't specifically exclude rookies, so i see no reason why we'd do so.

the only even remotely related line states Any IDP who has not been kept by a team may be chosen in that draft, and by that qualification, rookies are allowed because they were not kept.
62Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 16:14
I’m also in the “include rookies” camp.
63Doug
      ID: 11740813
      Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 18:15
Players clearly fall into 4 buckets during the preseason:
1. Players removed from the player pool (due to retirement, etc.)
2. Players who were kept
3. Players who were not kept
4. Rookies

IDP draft is for group 3.
64Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 21:50
Need someone to run the lottery. Have no idea how to do it.


4. Draft Order
A. Round 1
Picks 1-4 are determined by a draft lottery of the prior year’s 16 non-playoff teams. Picks 5-16 are in reverse order of regular season record of the remaining non-playoff teams; Picks 17-24 are the playoff teams in reverse order of playoff finish.
B. Subsequent Rounds
Picks 1-16 are in reverse order of regular season record of non-playoff teams. Picks 17-24 are the playoff teams in reverse order of playoff finish. The draft will NOT snake.
65Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 21:52
I believe this is draft slots for 2019, with 1-16 in the lottery for picks #1-4. Someone should double-check and confirm.

24. Seattle
23. Bills
22. Carolina
21. KC
20. Cleveland
19. Jacksonville
18. SF
17. GB
16. Denver
15. NYJ
14. Oakland
13. Dallas
12. Cincinnati
11. Arizona
10. Baltimore
9. Detroit
8. NYGiants
7. San Diego
6. NOLA
5. Indy
4. Chicago
3. Houston
2. Philadelphia
1. Minnesota
66Judy
      ID: 92552311
      Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 08:04
Guru will run lottery in a few days.
So we are all set there.
67Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 03:26
Lottery has been run (per Judy's request.

Pick #1: NOLA
Pick #2: Minnesota
Pick #3: Houston
Pick #4 Philadelphia

Notes:
NOLA had 5.9% chance to be selected
Minnesota was at 25%
Houston was 14.7%
Philly was 20%

Spreadsheet with full results is at http://rotoguru1.com/foot/G24-Aug19-14x4_balls.xls
68Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 08:12

Always have good luck in Guru's lotteries. Thanx, Guru.
69GoatLocker
      ID: 206272812
      Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 13:28
Ditto on including rookies for the IDP draft.
70skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 17:19
Anyone looking for a QB? I have Ryan Fitzpatrick available and he is seemingly still ahead on the depth chart to start in Miami right now.

71GO
      ID: 14143919
      Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 20:38
I am QB hunting... need to figure out what picks I have but would sell a non 1st rounder for a competent starter like this or better.
72ttucowboy
      ID: 556503022
      Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 23:51
Trade Announcement

Dallas Cowboys trade:

Ben Roethlisberger
2019 8th round pick

New York Jets trade:

2019 2nd round pick

GO to confirm on pick exchange
73GO
      ID: 14143919
      Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 23:57
Trade confirmed.
74 SwinganaMiss
      ID: 356281721
      Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 10:45
I would be interested in trading for a RB. If you have one to trade, hit me up! (Balt Ravens)
75 promizeone
      ID: 35661517
      Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 11:00
Guess need some clarification.

1. We get 9 Keepers again this year. Is the defense considered one of those keepers?

2. I had the Vikings defense, am I understanding that with the lotto I'm #2 pick in the IDP draft?
76Nerfherders
      ID: 347152518
      Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 14:59
No, the IDP draft is separate and there’s no need to keep your defense in order to participate.
77SwinganaMiss
      ID: 402572821
      Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 07:24
Now might be a good time to iron out how a strike might impact the league.
78Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 07, 2019, 21:24
To summarize:

Correct me if I am wrong.

DST is gone
Keepers — 9 of them
First round of draft IDP in order from #42 above
Second round regular order with lottery from #67 above
Rounds 3-11 regular order as shown in #65 above right side up
All drafts on MFL.

Lineups will have no DST, but a flex IDP. (I haven’t done it yet)
79Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Wed, Aug 07, 2019, 21:46

I don't see why you are taking the rankings from post #42? What is so special about that time? The rankings have in fact changed since then. I suggest you use the rankings from 24 hours before you are setting the IDP draft order on MFL.
80Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Wed, Aug 07, 2019, 22:29
Didn’t consider that DST ranking would change...

Proposal from email:

Should we pick a date and someone post the ranking as of that date?

Sunday August 18?

Need a keeper date soon after that. Thursday August 22/Friday August 23?

2018 dates:

Draft began August 26
Draft finished sept 3.

2019 suggestion
Keepers due August 22/23
Draft begin August 25
Draft end by. Labor Day sept 2...

Remember that nothing I toss out here or on email is final, just starting points for discussion. At some point tho a decision will be made, hopefully after input.
81SwinganaMiss
      ID: 356281721
      Thu, Aug 08, 2019, 06:19
(from post 30)
Beginning in 2019, the roster position of Team Defense (aka D/ST) will
be abolished. An additional IDP position will be added, and the IDP
configuration will become 1 DL - 2 LB - 2 DB - 1 Flex.


2018 rule was 1 DL - 1 LB - 1 DB - 2 Flex. So, we are not adding a Flex. We are adding 1 LB and 1 DB, and removing 1 Flex.
82twolves
      ID: 12622209
      Thu, Aug 08, 2019, 08:49
Could we move the start of the draft up a day to start earlier? I will be flying all day starting August 31 (8+ hour and then 10+ hour trips) with no internet and thus get more picks done before being out of touch.
83Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Thu, Aug 08, 2019, 11:45
There was a point in email that if someone wanted to trade a DST they need to know where they stand in the rankings, so perhaps lock it in at least 3 days ahead of keepers due. So like, August 19th?

There was also the question of taking the exact rankings, or using the projected stats and running the points based on our scoring system. I didn't hear a definitive answer on that either way.
84 CT/CLEV
      ID: 1379811
      Thu, Aug 08, 2019, 12:09
I have WR and RB to deal. Mariotta for the right price. Take a look at CLEV and let me know if you are interested based on need/offer. (And, no, Mahomes is not available)

RE: Judy 80 -I am good with the idea of
019 suggestion
Keepers due August 22/23
Draft begin August 25
Draft end by. Labor Day sept 2...

85Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 08, 2019, 18:10
Twolves

It will be opened earlier untimed — as soon as the keepers are in.
Remember you can also use a Q or emaill me directly. I not look until it is your turn...
86Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 08, 2019, 18:22
Twolves

It will be opened earlier untimed — as soon as the keepers are in.
Remember you can also use a Q or emaill me directly. I not look until it is your turn...
87Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 08, 2019, 18:23
I popped in the starting lineup changes and they seem to be working...

I also took DST out of rosters.

If anyone wants to check, just out a starting lineup in and see if it works...it should.
88Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Thu, Aug 08, 2019, 19:44
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Denver Broncos Trade:
Trey Quinn, WR, WSH
2019 Round 8, pick 11

Buffalo Bills Trade:
Mason Crosby, K, GB
2019 Round 5, pick 23
89Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Thu, Aug 08, 2019, 19:50
Confirmed.
90 WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Fri, Aug 09, 2019, 13:14
I have 2 defenses, Ravens and Bills, if anyone wants one of them.
91SwinganaMiss
      ID: 356281721
      Sat, Aug 10, 2019, 19:42
Keeping
Deshaun Watson
Penny
Godwin
Ridley
Robinson
Hunter
Adams
1 LB

either Reed or Ito Smith (unless someone is interested in trading a RB > Ito).
92Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 08:54

87: I believe the number of starting DTs + DEs
should be set at 1-2 (1 plus a flex) rather than 1-3.
93Judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 18:40
92
Toral is correct. Max DL has to be 2 to fulfill requirement of 2 LB and 2 DB

See 81. IDP total is 6

I fixed it.

I am so glad you guys are specific about this. I need to reminded each year...
94 ttucowboy
      ID: 407531012
      Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 19:20
Not sure if there is a market for Carlos Hyde, but he’s available for a draft pick upgrade. Starter Damien Williams is currently hurt. Appears Hyde will have a role in an explosive offense regardless of William’s injury status.
95 Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 09:08
looking to make more moves..

among those available:

Tom Brady
AJ Green
Doug Martin
Kenneth Dixon
Sterling Shepherd
Greg Olsen
Michael Gallup

CJ Mosley
Avery Williamson
Jaylon Smith

Olsen, in particular, could be a sneaky get. he's healthy, and probably at the back end of TE1s...
96GoatLocker
      ID: 206272812
      Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 12:38
I will have to figure things out, but the earlier the better for me for draft start.
I'll be on an airplane 30 Aug.
Board the Riverboat 2 Sept, but will have wifi.
Will just have to load queues when I have access.

GL
97ttucowboy
      ID: 407531012
      Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 23:41
Golden Tate suspension was upheld so the pick exchange is:

WG (KC) trades:

2019 S6

ttucowboy (Dallas) trades:

2019 S9
98Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 17:21

TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

New York Jets
trade
Benardrick McKinney, LB, Hou, and 2019 draft choices 6 and 10

to
New Orleans Saints
for 2019 draft choices 6 and 7
99GO
      ID: 14143919
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 07:18
Confirmed...
100promizeone
      ID: 35661517
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 08:45
What are our officials dates?
101judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 15:50
Matching up NFL DST with G24 teams.

NFL team/G24 team

I need to do this so I keep it straight for the draft. Please double check.

NOTE: order will change with list as of Monday August 19.

Someone needs to post it please.

I will put this list into MFL draft order today because it should be easy to fix once the “official” list is posted.

If you have 2 or more DST I will only put the first one in.

1. Chicago Bears/CAR
2. Jacksonville Jaguars/BUFF
3. Los Angeles Rams/CIN
4. Minnesota Vikings/SEA
5. Baltimore Ravens/KC
6. Los Angeles Chargers/CHI
7. Houston Texans/DEN
8. Cleveland Browns/INDY
9. New Orleans Saints/DET
10. Denver Broncos/AZ
11. Buffalo Bills/KC
12. New England Patriots/OAK
13. Dallas Cowboys/SF
14. Seattle Seahawks/PHL
15. Philadelphia Eagles/NYG
16. Tennessee Titans/GB
17. Pittsburgh Steelers/NOLA
18. Indianapolis Colts/NYJ
19. Kansas City Chiefs/OAK
20. Green Bay Packers/DET
21. Carolina Panthers/SD
22. Atlanta Falcons/—
23. New York Jets/HOU
24. Washington Redskins/CHI
25. Arizona Cardinals/DET
26. Detroit Lions/MINN
27. San Francisco 49ers/BALT
28. New York Giants/DAL
29. Tampa Bay Buccaneers/—
30. Miami Dolphins/CLE
31. Cincinnati Bengals/BALT
32. Oakland Raiders/JAX
102judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 15:52
Note:

DST list is from post #42

Draft order is from post #65

Round 2 lottery is from post #67

103judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 16:15
Slot 11 belongs to DAL due to trade.
104Twolves
      ID: 5671162
      Sat, Aug 17, 2019, 22:27
I am confused about 1st and 2nd round order of picking! I thought lottery for first round and after that by finish position during season.
105GoatLocker
      ID: 206272812
      Sat, Aug 17, 2019, 23:40
Defense is right for SD.
106SwinganaMiss
      ID: 356281721
      Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 09:13
FYI.....I looked at the 2018 trades, and found these 4 trades with 2019 draft picks included.

1
Denver Broncos gave up Kupp, Cooper LAR WR; 2019 third rounder
Minnesota Vikings gave up Ingram, Mark NOS RB; 2019 last rounder
2
Baltimore Ravens gave up Shepard, Sterling NYG WR; Evans, Justin TBB S; 2019 7th
Denver Broncos gave up St. Brown, Equanimeous GBP WR; Warner, Fred SFO LB; 2019 4th
3
New Orleans Saints gave up Osweiler, Brock MIA QB; 2019 8th rounder
Seattle Seahawks gave up 2019 5th round
4
Denver Broncos gave up Seferian-Jenkins, Austin JAC TE; 2019 5th ... if Olsen doesn't play at least 6 games the rest of the season (the Panthers have 12 games left), the pick moves to a 7th) (Olson played 8 games)
Arizona Cardinals gave up Olsen, Greg CAR TE; 2019 8th
107Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 11:23

I am confused about 1st and 2nd round order of picking! I thought lottery for first round and after that by finish position during season.

I believe that Judy is treating the special IDP draft like round 1 of the supplementary draft, which may lead to considerable confusion. The draft picks traded above refer to the supplementary draft as constituted under the rules, with the lottery round being round 1, not round 2.
108twolves
      ID: 12622209
      Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 13:32
Okay that helps. thanks.
So in round 1 can only draft IDP players. It seems to me it would have been easier to just add one round to draft since no one has more that one Def but I do see point that some teams have managed to dump team def already although not sure how unless have one less team member.
109judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 17:49
Reminder draft is set for 3 hours per pick!
110Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 15602520
      Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 22:18
Judy - re def order. Nfl def New England belongs to Jags. (Shows up as oakland on your list)
111 slizz
      ID: 532371213
      Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 22:45
ALAS, HERE IS THE FINAL FINAL DST RANKINGS FOR IDP DRAFT:

***DRAFT ORDER NEEDS TO BE UPDATED ON THE SITE***

1. Chicago Bears - Thumqer / Carolina
2. Jacksonville Jaguars - Slizz / Buffalo
3. Los Angeles Rams - Roman / Cincy
4. Baltimore Ravens - WG / KC +1
5. Minnesota Vikings - Promize / Seattle -1
6. Los Angeles Chargers - ??? / Chicago Bears
7. Houston Texans - Tree / Denver
8. Cleveland Browns - Kyle / Indy
9. New Orleans Saints - Nerf / Detroit
10. Denver Broncos - Judy / Arizona
11. New England Patriots - yokel / Jacksonville +1
12. Dallas Cowboys - twolves / SF +1
13. Buffalo Bills - ttucowboy / Dallas -2
14. Philadelphia Eagles - TD / NYG +1
15. Seattle Seahawks - deepsnapper / Philly -1
16. Pittsburgh Steelers - Toral / New Orleans +1
17. Indianapolis Colts - GO / NYJ +1
18. Tennessee Titans - skineej / Green Bay -2
19. Kansas City Chiefs - Doug / Oakland
20. Carolina Panthers - mjd / San Diego +1
23. New York Jets - taxman / Houston
26. Detroit Lions - Bobo / Minnesota
27. San Francisco 49ers - SwinganaMiss / Baltimore
29. Miami Dolphins - CT / Cleveland +1

THE FOLLOWING TEAMS ARE DUPLICATE OR UNOWNED:

21. Atlanta Falcons - FA +1
22. Green Bay Packers - Nerf / Detroit
24. Washington Redskins - ??? / Bears
25. Arizona Cardinals - Nerf / Detroit
28. New York Giants - ttucowboy / Dallas
30. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - FA
31. Cincinnati Bengals - SwinganaMiss / Baltimore
32. Oakland Raiders - yokel / Jacksonville

The +/- indicates the change in consensus ranking from my original post.
112GoatLocker
      ID: 487241823
      Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 00:26
#20 Carolina Panthers would be GL since I own SDC now.
113taxman
      ID: 417421910
      Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 11:42
Homer
114GoatLocker
      ID: 206272812
      Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 15:35
I went all the way through.
See keepers as 22/23 Aug.
Has this been decided?
115judy
      ID: 35493114
      Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 15:45
You should have received a detailed email Sunday.

KEEPERS DUE:
Thursday August 22 midnight EDT
Note calendar in MFL says August 24 — I need that leeway to remind those of you who might not follow directions...🤪

Directions:
List keepers in the thread so we can see them all in on place.
Select your keepers on MFL — you can do this NOW if you know.
1). For owners.
2). Select keepers.
3). Pick nine.
4). Scroll to bottom to hit “select keepers”.

DRAFT:

FIRST ROUND OF THE DRAFT IS IDP ONLY
SECOND ROUND OF THE DRAFT IS THE LOTTERY ORDER.
ROUNDS 3 to 11 is the REGULAR DRAFT ORDER.
(3 hours per pick)

DRAFT STARTS:
Untimed once I perform the “load keepers” button.
Hopefully, sometime Friday.
I will send an email, although I think MFL also let’s you know when the draft opens.
Timed:
Sunday, August 25 8:00 am EDT

Please check the thread to see the draft slot swaps leftover from last year. MFL should have processed them already.
It is your job to verify all this, not mine!
116ttucowboy
      ID: 337391915
      Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 16:39
Does anyone know if it’s possible to trade picks on the website? We have several trades that need to have the picks processed.
117Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 17:27

Yes it is possible.
118GoatLocker
      ID: 206272812
      Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 18:20
Thanks.
Got it.
Couldn't find the email, but who knows at this time of year.
Probably sent to wrong folder.
119GoatLocker
      ID: 206272812
      Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 18:42
OK, I'm blind.
Found it.
Thanks for all you do.
120ttucowboy
      ID: 337391915
      Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 18:57
117: Thanks. For some reason, I didn’t see that option before. Trade proposals with pick exchanges from post 72 and 97 have been submitted.
121SwinganaMiss
      ID: 477462019
      Tue, Aug 20, 2019, 20:49
Expected Keepers
Deshaun Watson
Penny
Derrick Henry
Godwin
Robinson
Jordan Reed
Hunter
Adams
Kirksey
122 WG
      Donor
      ID: 35338278
      Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 08:39
Still looking to add a keeper, preferably a WR or IDP, if anyone has one for not a super high pick swap cost. Also have Jimmy Graham and Jack Doyle to trade if anyone needs a TE.
123Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 18:39
I am letting everyone know I will be out of town, but with internet access, for the weekend starting tomorrow morning.
124 taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 22:02
Anybody have information/contact with CCRider (Chicago) and Kyle (Indianapolis). Need their keeper picks to start this draft.
125SwinganaMiss
      ID: 356281721
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 00:26
On MFL, it says neither has visited the league website in > 30 days.
Both have email addresses and cell phone numbers listed on the site
126GoatLocker
      ID: 206272812
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 01:36
Thanks guys I was going nuts trying to figure things out. trying to update spreadsheets and getting no where.
128SwinganaMiss
      ID: 356281721
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 07:48
The link is wrong.
Check the G24 Preseason 2018 thread instead (the one above currently goes to RG14).

The posts were in the 80s and 90s.

Anyway, Kyle checked in on July 23.
But no messages from ccrider in 2019, I don't believe.
129Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 08:07

ccrider's keepers now in.
130Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 09:26

128 Thanx. I deleted the post with the bad link.
131twolves
      ID: 12622209
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 10:45
So when draft opens--the supplemental round is first and only IDP player be drafted?? or can any one (including offensive players) be drafted?
132judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 10:49
Round one is IDP only.

Waiting for kyle and Pete to select keepers.

Email sent to both this am.

Will be out til dinner time.
133ttucowboy
      ID: 337391915
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 18:28
I sent Judy a text earlier. I’m unable to select keepers on the site. Sorry for the holdup
134ttucowboy
      ID: 337391915
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 18:47
Keepers have been updated
135Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 547332821
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 19:20
can you post them in the thread?
136ttucowboy
      ID: 556503022
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 19:39
Not sure if post 135 is directed at me, but I posted my keeps on 8/10. I just forgot to also mark them on the site.
137judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 20:00
133 fixed.
138GoatLocker
      ID: 206272812
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 20:23
Only team without keeper entered in the Keeper Thread is Kyle's Indianapolis Colts. Would be nice to see them before we start.
139Judy
      ID: 92552311
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 20:36
138. Yup
140judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 21:04
Good to go!!!
141ttucowboy
      ID: 337391915
      Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 22:23
So Thump lost Luck to retirement and Doug lost Miller to a likely season ending injury. I think, going forward, it’d be a good idea to have keepers due the Sunday/Monday after preseason week 3 (equivalent of tomorrow for this year). I also wouldn’t have a problem with either making a switch now since we haven’t started drafting yet. Just my two cents.
142Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Sun, Aug 25, 2019, 09:55
i'm in agreement here. i absolutely have never understood the rush in most leagues to begin the draft before the third week begins.

that being said, i'm more inclined to allow for sudden retirements, and less inclined to allow for injuries, because that's why we have the IL. it hurts you with keepers, but you can make up for it during the season (for example, i kept Hunter Henry last year despite a knee injury suffered in MAY that we knew would keep him out all season), and still lead the league in scoring.
143judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sun, Aug 25, 2019, 15:46
Dates/calendar wishes noted for 2020.

I just go off of last year. MFL picks the corresponding dates.

No problem. We can discuss then.

Good luck drafting everyone.
144Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 547332821
      Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 20:05
so, the above discussion was sufficient to allow those guys to change keepers?

all set to draft someone and it turns out that they apparently were someone's keeper despite not showing up in the keeper thread or in the keepers on mfl.
145twolves
      ID: 12622209
      Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 09:25
I think once draft started--no changes should be made except if player retires and the player to keep has not been drafted when commissioner stops the draft briefly to allow it to occur. Injuries, I disagree with allowing replacements--I agree that is what IR is for.
146Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 10:40
Yokel - we are all friends / acquaintances in the league...personally, I don’t want people feeling sour before the season even starts.

Yes, you are right that we have the IR slot for an injury like millers...however, an acl tear can change a players value overnight. Besides, nobody was drafted so no other teams were hurt and if you wanted Cook so bad you could’ve traded on the cheap. If we had already drafted players I would agree but no harm in what was done.
147GO
      ID: 112192620
      Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 11:55
I think this concept of an emergency mulligan... available until the switch gets flipped turning on the draft is just good sportsmanship. I think retirement or a clearly defined long term injury (IR?) easy enough to define. And just letting you pick an alternative from your own squad is fair.
148GO
      ID: 112192620
      Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 11:59
Trade
Dare Ogunbowale, RB, TB
Thumqer/Carolina 2020 10th Round
for
GO Jets 6.15
GO Jets 2020 3rd Round
149Thumqer
      ID: 39230821
      Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 12:06
Confirmed
151Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 16:41
Quite simple - we vote to have keeper deadline that Monday after week 3 of the preseason and draft accordingly.
152GO
      ID: 112192620
      Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 16:57
Which I think... is always exactly one week before Labor Day.

Just like F101, set a day -- not a date. We always draft Tuesday after Labor Day. Be there or be square.
153GoatLocker
      ID: 206272812
      Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 01:58
Right, which this year is my anniversary and will cost me huge. Talking about F101 draft that is. Just hope the wifi works well.
154Judy
      ID: 92552311
      Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 02:32
The Draft start time and general calendar are posted in plenty of time for objections.
I have followed the timeline from the previous year which MFL updates automatically.

If you want it later let us know and will vote on it.

This information was posted on August 7 (#80):

2019 suggestion
Keepers due August 22/23
Draft begin August 25
Draft end by. Labor Day sept 2...

Remember that nothing I toss out here or on email is final, just starting points for discussion. At some point tho a decision will be made, hopefully after input.


It got 2 comments so don’t give me grief (I would actually like to use a stronger word, but as this is a public forum, I will refrain) now that you don’t agree with the dates.
Personally I don’t care when the dates are.
155SwinganaMiss
      ID: 402572821
      Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 15:17
Please give me tavecchio for 6.10. Sorry I timed out.
156GO
      ID: 112192620
      Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 20:08
After timing out we can't make a pick? What the heck is that... I would like Ian Thomas, TE, CAR
157twolves
      SuperDude
      ID: 811161317
      Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 10:25
Will be gone for about 24 hours starting 4:00pm ET. Will try to fill up ques as needed.
158GO
      ID: 112192620
      Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 19:44
I'm still short a pick because my pick from 8.15 Ian Thomas was subsequently picked at 9.13 from my draft list... and i never got pick 8.15. Why in the world won't it let me make my own pick?

Can someone pick Crabtree for me at 8.15?


The app is completely worthless, so until i got home I couldn't actually in a totally non-intuitive way figure out how to make a pick.
159Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 20:01
You have to e-mail Judy. There are no designated pickers in MFL.
160judy
      ID: 35493114
      Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 21:30
Done for GO.
161skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Wed, Sep 04, 2019, 10:16
When are waivers being run for week 1?
162Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Wed, Sep 04, 2019, 10:25

According to the calendar, at noon ET today, just like usual.
163skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Wed, Sep 04, 2019, 12:05
I was not able to add any players for waivers due to the global lock it said was still on all players. Were there other teams affected by that? I tried every way to search for players and add them, but it did not give me any option to add a player like usual for waivers.
164skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Wed, Sep 04, 2019, 12:06
Were all teams still locked out except for the final playoff teams last year?
165Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Wed, Sep 04, 2019, 12:12

I wasn't in the playoffs, and wasn't locked out.
167Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 13:36
anyone using the gameday desktop app for MFL?

and if so, is it showing your rookies as FAs?
168Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 14:06
hell, it doesnt even have the correct NFL match ups. lol
169youngroman
      ID: 15510187
      Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 17:57
Tree - haven't installed it anymore, but I believe you need to update the schedule and players on the last tab.
170Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 14:55
not even done with the second week of the season, and Michael Gallup joins Melvin Gordon, AJ Green, Sterling Shepherd, and Hunter Henry as keepers of mine that are on the shelf.

yay team.
171judy
      ID: 35493114
      Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 20:58
Yikes!
172Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 38502923
      Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 18:07
Ugh. Second time this season that a late lineup change did not register. Not sure what’s going on.
173Doug
      ID: 466112218
      Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 22:48
I've had similar issues in the past with MFL many times. This week one of my teams I put in Demarcus Robinson but it didn't take... fortunately it didn't impact results.
174 skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 17:14
Looking to the Future and willing to part with any of my Vets. Anybody 26 and over is available:

Cam Newton
Adam Thielen
Taylor Gabriel
HaHa Clinton-Dix
Jerrick McKinnon (I)

Looking for younger players and draft picks in return.
175Tree
      ID: 217372011
      Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 00:36
It's insane that the G24 AFC West has more teams over .500 than the entire G24 NFC combined.
176SwinganaMiss
      ID: 356281721
      Tue, Oct 08, 2019, 21:25
My top scoring team (Balt) is not even in playoff position. Top 2 teams in fact are only 6-4. Pretty gross, because my team is way overachieving. I needed to be 10-0 right now to have a shot at getting to playoffs. : (
177Skinneej
      ID: 11931511
      Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 11:53
FYI John Ross is not allowed to be placed in IR per our league rules as Free agent or waiver pickups are not eligible. Only players that are already on a team’s roster when they are placed on IR are eligible.

This is the rules specifics that I found from when the proposal was passed:
An IR slot will be added. Only players on NFL's IR are eligible.
A player on IR may not be picked up during the season (on waivers, as a free agent, etc.) and placed in the IR slot.
An owner must remove a player activated from the NFL's IR by the second game after the player's real-life activation.
178GO
      ID: 14143919
      Fri, Nov 08, 2019, 00:03
Sort of surprised this league isn't at least half point PPR... with many other sites making full PPR the default in recent years.

We do have small yardage bonuses i think. But still seems strange. My scoring here seems to feel drastically different than all my other leagues.
179Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Fri, Nov 08, 2019, 17:34
PPR does seem to be the more popular choice these days. It's been years since I played in one, having only played G24 or RIFC leagues this decade.

I suppose with our additions of IDP, which is still relatively rare in fantasy football, it makes up for that lack of scoring.
180GO
      ID: 112192620
      Fri, Nov 08, 2019, 22:26
This league does have some weird yardage bonuses that i have never fully grasped. They are set up in such a weird way to do bonus points to know what sort of extra I've earned.
181Tree
      ID: 55911315
      Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 22:26
I'm going to call out Indianapolis.

Come on man. Tyreek Hill in your bench for 5 weeks? How many players on bye this week in your starting line up?

Stuff like this really screws up the league.

Barring health reasons, I don't know there are any valid excuses for this.
182TD
      ID: 53602521
      Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 09:37
Thanks for noticing this Tree. I took a look and Indianapolis has had the same starting lineup the last 5 weeks.

The commissioner should contact the manager.

From our rules:

Activity will be monitored. Every team and circumstance is different. Not every team will want to change their lineup every week. Not every manager will be able to respond to every trade the same day it is proposed. Not every manager will be able to answer emails immediately. Not every manager will make as many transactions (add/drops or trades) as others. Albeit, if we notice some inactivity (leaving injured players in lineup or leaving healthy players on the bench while your lineup has bye week players in it) or it is brought to our attention, we will inquire. Things happen in real life that is more important than this silly game, but for the integrity of the league we must do this. Every week is VERY important! Please understand that we are trying to work with you to resolve the inactivity. You are expected to respond to all trades/emails in a timely manner whenever possible. Activity on our threads in the Rotoguru boards is required at times of rules discussion, drafts and on certain other occasions. Active discussions at other times is not required but appreciated by the league. An inquiry or a warning letter is not required before removal.
183Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 10:16
i haven't checked other teams, but i saw what was an extraordinarily low point total, saw a ton of players on bye and thought that certainly there were some options available.

little did i know one of them would be Tyreek Hill.

184Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 13:10
Yeah, that's no good. Not sure what to do about it. This should've been caught weeks ago though. Do people look at their matchups?

Seems like a quiet year for this league thus far. Not alot of chatter.

As for me, I jinxed Stafford by getting his backup as a just-in-case. I picked Driskel up on Wednesday, and the next day Stafford had a Q by his name, then didn't play. As they say, there's always next year.
185Tree
      ID: 55911315
      Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 16:36
It's time for the league to take over the Indianapolis franchise, and at least get the obvious starters in there.

Its also time to immediately find a new owner.
186judy
      ID: 35493114
      Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 19:00
I have contacted Kyle.
Thank you for notifying me,
It’s been calm until this information surfaced.
I do depend upon managers to let me know of irregularities.
187Tree
      ID: 77532019
      Sat, Nov 16, 2019, 11:09
certainly changes could be made to his lineup so he has active players starting, and guys like Tyreek Hill on his bench?
188Doug
      ID: 466112218
      Sat, Nov 16, 2019, 22:47
And probably no longer tanking for Tua :(
189Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 17:55
Tanking for Herbert?
190Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 13:32

Is there to be any penalty for leaving your roster unchanged for multiple weeks?

Here's what I suggest:

1. Determine the number of weeks the team's lineup was unchanged.

2. Subtract one (one mulligan/freebie).

3. Subtract from this number any games the team won during these weeks.

4. Then, FOR DRAFT POSITION PURPOSES ONLY, INCLUDING THE LOTTERY, add this number to the team's win total (and subtract from the loss total).

E.g., the Colts now are 5-17. Assume the number calculated above is 3. If the season ended today, their draft position would be determined as if they went 8-14. If there were any other 8-14 teams, the penalized team would draft behind them.

What authority does the commissioner have to do this? The rules state:

"Should unforeseen scenarios arise, the commissioners will use their best judgment to settle any matters in the “best interest of the league”.
191Toral
      ID: 9541311
      Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 09:40

The Carolina Panthers still have Derrius Guice on League IR, altho yesterday was his second game off it and he should have been removed before it.

I realize that nobody cares about this stuff but me, but I thought I would mention it. (Right on the Rosters oage it says "Warning! Possible IR Rule Violation Above" -- altho the game doesn't know our rules and there was no violation until the 2nd week Guice as off IR.)
192Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 13:27
Hope everyone had a happy thanksgiving...

I need to get an active TE but it won’t let me de-activate Ebron without dropping someone else. Would any of those with Commissioner access be able to place him in IR so I can get a TE?

Or am I SOL this weekend?
193GO
      ID: 141062421
      Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 13:10
The logic of MFL is truly baffling sometimes.
194Slizz
      ID: 53336714
      Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 23:20
Crisis averted. Even though I’m out of contention, the workaround was to deactivate John Ross to IR...which allowed me to pick up a TE for the week. I then proceeded to re—activate Ross and deactivated Ebron. Yay MFL!
195GO
      ID: 14143919
      Sun, Dec 01, 2019, 16:23
Is there a setting somewhere that says i have to have a certain set of positions on my roster and cant make moves that would temporarily not satisfy that?

I feel like i should only need a full valid lineup by the time my final weekly lineup is submitted.
196Doug
      ID: 466112218
      Sun, Dec 01, 2019, 22:38
Agree with GO
197slizz
      ID: 532371213
      Sun, Dec 01, 2019, 23:26
GO & Doug - it is a league setting based on my interpretation of the rules...

Are Partial Lineups Allowed? NO

If that was switched to yes, I could submit a lineup without a TE and would have been able to de-activate Ebron without an issue.

I know that safeguard was put in place so that teams would always field a complete roster...we change that rule to "YES", it opens up the chance of "rebuilding" teams cutting useless IDP's in hopes of stashing better offensive keepers, which is not fair to the rest of the league.
198GO
      ID: 14143919
      Mon, Dec 02, 2019, 09:20
I am all for everyone needs a full lineup by the last kickoff of a given week. But why do I need to have a DB on Wednesday while I am reorganizing my squad for the week... seems like there is no way to have it both ways with this setup.
199Tree
      ID: 161118314
      Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 15:18
Is there a setting somewhere that says i have to have a certain set of positions on my roster and cant make moves that would temporarily not satisfy that?


yes.

i can't remember the situation. but i tried to pick someone up by dropping a DB, but the move was denied because i need to carry two DBs my roster.

it was asinine.
200Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 15:54
This is what I have for the playoffs:

Ravens vs.Raiders
Chiefs vs. Jets
Seahawks vs.Vikings
Eagles vs. Giants

Lottery teams finish order:

Jaguars
Browns
Texans
Bills
Saints
Broncos
Cardinals
Lions

Cowboys
Bears
Bengals
Panthers
49ers
Colts
Chargers
Packers

Please check my work. This could also be subject to Thursday morning scoring changes.
201Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 16:03
I would also like to note that 5 of the worst 8 teams from last year had winning records this year, were 4th, 8th, 9th, 11th, and 13th in scoring, and 3 of those teams made the playoffs this year.
202skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 16:24
Annual reminder for a commish to lock the 16 teams not in the Super Bowl playoffs. Only the 8 teams in the playoff can make adds/drops going forward, and none of the players added from here on can be keepers next year.
203skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 16:30
Re: 200 Everything looks correct Nerf
204judy
      ID: 35493114
      Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 17:58
Yup.

Playoffs all set. Abilities fixed as well.

Fixed my one glitch for wanna be...

Do check MFL to be sure it looks good.
205SwinganaMiss
      ID: 356281721
      Tue, Dec 03, 2019, 19:18
Only two teams from 2018 playoffs made 2019 playoffs (both #1 seeds from last year).

The top 6 scoring teams by points are all from the AFC. Similarly, 8 AFC teams are >.500 and only 5 NFC teams.
206Nerfherders
      ID: 305301811
      Wed, Dec 04, 2019, 17:12
The conclusion one could draw from #201 and #205 is that it's extremely hard to keep a dynasty going in this league. There's too many teams and the rosters are too thin. The cycle I'm noticing is someone gets a lottery pick, and that ONE pick, by itself, moves them into the playoffs, but that pick's bonus may only last for a few seasons, and then the next lowly team gets the new hot rookie and it moves up. I know this cycle because it's happened to me twice in the last 9 years. There's literally not enough players to go around, so the (top 10) rookies are the only things that are pumping new life into teams, but one player can't sustain the success by himself.

I'm not sure if this needs to be fixed, I'm just pointing out the pattern I'm seeing. And honestly, the only ways to fix this is to diminish the number of teams, or the number of active roster spots (like, go QB,WR,RB,TE,K,DL,LB,DB, one of each). That would basically involve scrapping the league and starting over.
207Tree
      ID: 161118314
      Wed, Dec 04, 2019, 18:08
to be fair, that one pick has got to be the right pick.

2016 was a devastating draft for me, taking kenneth dixon with 1.08 and deandre washington with 1.11. (although generally speaking, it was a pretty weak draft class.)

2014 was good ol' Bishop Sankey with 1.02. lol

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