RotoGuru Football Leagues & Standings

View the Forum Registry

XML Get RSS Feed for this thread


Self-edit this thread


0 Subject: 2021 RG 14

Posted by: Judy
- [39540117] Tue, Jun 08, 2021, 13:08

League is paid for,

If you know now you are IN or OUT, please indicate.

If you are “iffy” tell us that too.

Thanks.
1Judy
      ID: 39540117
      Tue, Jun 08, 2021, 13:08
Ghostwood/Judy is IN.
2Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Jun 08, 2021, 13:27
In
3Taxman
      ID: 16554621
      Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 23:27
In
4twolves
      ID: 75381317
      Sun, Jun 13, 2021, 18:38
In
5TD
      ID: 415181613
      Wed, Jun 16, 2021, 14:18
In
6SwinganaMiss
      ID: 48531621
      Sun, Jun 20, 2021, 14:39
In
7I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 384502818
      Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 11:21
In
8gurudan
      ID: 455202121
      Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 22:20
smithfield tigers in
9Doug
      ID: 32546312
      Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 15:03
In
10Athletics Guy
      ID: 155392317
      Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 18:39
In
11Judy
      ID: 105462014
      Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 13:38
Athletics guy — which teams is yours?
12AthleticsGuy
      ID: 5861521
      Mon, Jul 05, 2021, 22:02
Raiders
13Jaydog
      ID: 485157
      Tue, Jul 06, 2021, 19:58
Sorry for the delay, hadn’t switched over to football mode yet. I’m in (Ford standard)
14Judy
      ID: 1562310
      Tue, Jul 06, 2021, 20:45
Agree, but just trying to see who is baaaaack…
15ywc
      ID: 147441822
      Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 04:41
I am in.
16Judy
      ID: 106332814
      Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 14:09
Well training camps have begun. Time to seriously think about football! Or not…

Your 2020 rosters have been transferred over.

If you were in the championship round, you need to drop any players you added during the championships,

Once you have done that, please post here.

I’ll post the draft order in a few minutes. Gotta look up the criteria.

Would love a volunteer to do the spreadsheet that shows where our current players were drafted, picked up…

17Judy
      ID: 106332814
      Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 16:05
Found it. I am charging electronics stuff now in anticipation of the big thunderstorm that is coming so I will put the pieces in place once it passes.

Draft slot 1 will be the winner of the Toilet Bowl.

Draft slots 2 through 6 will be comprised of non playoff teams sorted by reverse of the previous regular season's points for total.

Draft slots 7 through 13 will be comprised of playoff teams sorted by the reverse of the previous season's playoff seeding.

Draft slot 14 will be the winner of the previous season's playoff.


The draft will maintain the same order every round throughout (it will not snake).

19Judy
      ID: 106332814
      Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 16:23
Well looking here.
I had already figured it out last December…

1. Oaktown
2. Goatlocker
3. Art of Monk
4. Ghostwood
5. Luxury tax
6. Guru Klingons
7. TD
8. Smithfield
9. IAC
10. Swimganamiss
11. Island bombers
12. Ford standard
13. Twolves
14. Snoop doug

Still need goatlocker and swing to check into MFL.
20artofmonk
      ID: 346262915
      Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 16:26
I am in.
22Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 02, 2021, 11:14
question on keepers. I don't recall is there is a precedent.

The rules say that if I have three keepers who each command a round #3 pick, then picks 2,3,4 must be used. That is clear.

But what if I keep three players who command picks 2, 3, and 3. Since I have two 3rd rounders and my 2nd round pick is already used, does the extra 3rd rounder drop to round 1, or does it back up to round 4 (using the straddle rule, since the 2nd round slot is not available)?

Here is the language in our rules:
If two players on the same fantasy team are drafted in the same round and then kept, one of them counts as the next lowest (numerically) draft pick in the subsequent draft. If three players on the same team require forfeiture of equal draft rounds to be kept, the owner forfeits that round's pick, plus the two picks from the straddling rounds.

23TD
      ID: 415181613
      Mon, Aug 02, 2021, 18:34
But what if I keep three players who command picks 2, 3, and 3.

Because there is no rule or known precedent for this, I think we should use this rule twice.

If two players on the same fantasy team are drafted in the same round and then kept, one of them counts as the next lowest (numerically) draft pick in the subsequent draft.

First use it for picks 3 and 3. This results in picks 2, 2, and 3.

Then use it for picks 2 and 2. This results in keeper picks 1, 2, and 3.
24TD
      ID: 415181613
      Mon, Aug 02, 2021, 18:42
Judy stated in an email to the league.

We should also consider how to work the new NFL schedule into our schedule:

I think we should mimic whatever RIFC decides to do for their schedule. A proposal and discussion are on this thread.
http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=foot&thread=5616
25Judy
      ID: 106332814
      Mon, Aug 02, 2021, 22:13
I think we had this a few years ago. I will try to find in older thread tomorrow,
26TD
      ID: 415181613
      Tue, Aug 03, 2021, 11:38
Dak Prescott was a 4th round keeper in 2020. I picked him up as a free agent when he was on IR. If I decide to keep him, he will be a 2nd round keeper in 2021. Is this correct?
27gurudan
      ID: 51145618
      Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 21:43
waiting to hear on whether Sabo can take over Goatlocker's team
28Judy
      ID: 597877
      Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 08:09
Gurudan
Can you post his “bio” here?

Have no other offers so far. Need to decide soon.
29gurudan
      ID: 51145618
      Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 15:44
44 year old, trained chef turned insurance man. Lives in NC, two children.Belongs in a cash football league with me at ESPN and plays in a $400 league with me at Fleaflicker for the past 20 years.
30TD
      ID: 415181613
      Sun, Aug 08, 2021, 12:12
I am in favor of having Sabo take over Goatlocker's team.
31Judy
      ID: 597877
      Sun, Aug 08, 2021, 22:01
TD
I think he stays at 4 for 2021. A player gets two years at his first keeper slot?
32SwinganaMiss
      ID: 48531621
      Mon, Aug 09, 2021, 13:06
IR players retain keeper status, thus since he was a keeper(4) last year, he would be a keeper(2) this year.
33Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 09, 2021, 14:01
[32] agree with this interpretation.
34TD
      ID: 415181613
      Mon, Aug 09, 2021, 15:52
Thanks for the clarification.
35artofmonk
      ID: 417281210
      Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 11:28
Possible trad bait

Deandre Hopkins (2)
36gurudan
      ID: 51145618
      Fri, Aug 13, 2021, 09:20
Judy. you asked for the email address for Team X replacement. I replied,but in case you didn't see it, jeremysabo@gmail.com thnx
37Judy
      ID: 58791422
      Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 23:10
Got it . Sent an invite.
38gurudan
      ID: 455202121
      Sun, Aug 15, 2021, 18:24
Judy, he didn't get the email. He's registered at MFL since he played the playoff challenge.I think if he just uses the 23784 number, he should be able to get in the league. I'll keep you posted

Thanks, Dan
39artofmonk
      ID: 417281210
      Mon, Aug 16, 2021, 00:08
trade
Doug trades Dobbins and 15th rd pick to
art of monk for his 6th rd.

I will update keepers. Trade bait
Zeke Elliot (1)
Hopkins (2).
40Judy
      ID: 58791422
      Mon, Aug 16, 2021, 23:55
Re #38.

My fault. I forgot the “g” in gmail when I typed in his email addy.

All set now…
41Judy
      ID: 58791422
      Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 21:39
Keepers
The last #2 preseason game is Sunday august 23.
The last preseason game is Sunday august 29.

We usually enter keepers before the last game. I need time to enter them into the correct draft slots and time for you to check that your guys are in the correct places.

So…

KEEPERS SELECTION BEGINS NOW AND ALL KEEPERS MUST BE POSTED BY 11:59 EDT Tuesday August 24 into the MFL site.
For owners —> select keepers!

Here is the rolled over calendar from last year.

Draft Mon Aug 30 2021 8:00 a.m. ET Edit Delete
Put All Free Agents On Waivers Sun Sep 5 2021 12:00 p.m. ET Edit Delete
No Add/Drops Allowed Thu Sep 9 2021 7:00 p.m. ET
until Thu Sep 9 2021 10:30 p.m. ET 12 (Thu Dec 2 2021 7:00 p.m. ET) Edit Delete
Process Blind Bid Waivers Auto* Thu Sep 9 2021 7:00 p.m. ET 12 (Thu Dec 2 2021 7:00 p.m. ET) Edit Delete
Process Blind Bid Waivers Fri Sep 10 2021 7:00 p.m. ET 12 (Fri Dec 3 2021 7:00 p.m. ET) Edit Delete
Process Blind Bid Waivers Auto* Sun Sep 12 2021 8:00 a.m. ET 16 (Sun Jan 2 2022 8:00 a.m. ET) Edit Delete


Note that we usually start UNOFFICIALLY/UNTIMED a few days earlier, as soon as I get them slotted.

This year probably Thursday midnight 26. This gives folks time to check to see that keepers are in the correct slots.

It will be open without requiring picks, but if you DO NOT expect to pick, let us know so we don’t get all riled up!
42Judy
      ID: 58791422
      Tue, Aug 17, 2021, 21:42
Summary

Selecting keepers begins now
For owners —> select keepers
Tuesday, August 24, Keepers due on MFL 11:59 EDT
Thursday, August 26 evening, unofficial, untimed, draft opens
Monday, August 30 8:00 am EDT, timed draft opens.


Timed? Did we use 2 or 3 hours per pick?

Any thoughts on schedule?
43TD
      ID: 415181613
      Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 12:25
Schedule for draft looks good.

4 hour clock starting Monday 8/30 with pause from midnight to 8am EDT seems reasonable. If we find draft is running too slowly, this can be lowered.
44SwinganaMiss
      ID: 48531621
      Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 12:51
Agree w/ TD. 4 hrs has been the norm, and pause sounds right.
46Judy
      ID: 8712314
      Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 16:05
To clarify,
Keepers due
Tuesday August 24, 11:45 pm

47Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 24, 2021, 14:45
BTW, I paid for the league on MFL back in June, in order to get the early bird pricing. Cost was $59.95, split 14 ways is $4.28 per manager.

Paypal to davehall@rotoguru2.com, designate as payment to friend or family - to avoid fees. (On confirmation, the email address may appear as Uncommon Cents, LLC.)

If you prefer paying by check, make payable to Dave Hall and mail to 114 Meadow Lane, West Hartford, CT 06107.
50Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 10:15
I also now have Venmo. If you prefer to pay using this app, send me an email and I'll give you my parameters.
51artofmonk
      ID: 247272917
      Sun, Aug 29, 2021, 18:27
with dobbins hurt, can I replace him or am I just stuck with him?
52 SwinganaMiss
      ID: 48531621
      Sun, Aug 29, 2021, 20:35
It has happened in the past. I think this rule was adopted in 2018 (and used in the same year):

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 26, 2018, 08:52 To extend insurance to keepers, I think the following adjustments are the most logical approach:
This adjustment applies only to players injured through preseason week #3 games. We'll "protect" a team who keeps or drafts a player before his week #3 game and who is injured in that game (or, in the case of a keeper, between the keeper date and the end of preseason game #3). If you are in that situation, you'll have a limited time to make a substitute pick - but only from the player pool still remaining. A replacement keeper pick must be based on the league rules for keepers, and the substitute keeper must still be available in the undrafted player pool at the time of the substitution.

So, for example, if Tim Tebow is drafted by Team X prior to his game on Aug 25, and Tebow is injured in that game, then Team X can jettison Tebow and substitute any other player who is still in the undrafted pool at the time of the jettison. This, however, must be done by the end of Monday (August 27).

While this obviously isn't complete insurance, it is designed to keep the draft moving during that first weekend. And it's certainly better than being stuck with an eventual free agent to replace an early draft pick. Hopefully, this situation will never come into play.
I'm sure there can be tricky situations, and we may just need to leave it to the commish to resolve those as equitably as possible if/when they arise.
53Judy
      ID: 8712314
      Sun, Aug 29, 2021, 20:54
Sent email to art, awaiting his new list…
55 SwinganaMiss
      ID: 48531621
      Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 13:51
Mostert cannot be moved to the Taxi Squad. He can move to IR once officially placed there. For now, has to remain on active roster (or be dropped).
56Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 22:11
I just transferred Mostert from Smithfield's taxi squad to the IL. He is on the NFL IL now.
57Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 10:21
Reminder - taxi squad is only for players on the Covid list (designated by a C).

Injured Reserve is for players designated with an I.
58Athletics Guy
      ID: 148421920
      Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 21:42
Have we addressed when the playoff weeks are going to be with the longer season? I’m assuming everything will be moved a week later.
59Athletics Guy
      ID: 148421920
      Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 22:17
I just noticed there’s teams on bye for week 14 which impact the first round of playoffs. Hopefully the NFL takes fantasy playoffs into consideration next year!
60Athletics Guy
      ID: 148421920
      Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 22:38
Nevermind, it would be during weeks 15,16 and 17 now.
61Jaydog
      ID: 17421315
      Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 15:58
There's one rule I always forget, hoping someone can clarify it.

If I draft a player in round 20, but then release him to free agency, and the player then sits as a free agent for a few weeks. If I then pick the player up (after sitting on free agency for multiple weeks), and I keep the player for the rest of the season, can I keep that player at a round #24 value, or is he kept at the round #20 value (where I initially drafted him).
62SwinganaMiss
      ID: 259301311
      Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 16:19
24, unless he goes on IR.
Has to remain a FA through at least one Wed waiver run to get this reset.
63Judy
      ID: 391031229
      Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 12:29
Thoughts on our playoff plans.

No change: 8 teams into championship brackets, same rules for placement and seeding

Teams 9-14.
Current:
Teams ranked 11-14 go into a playoff bracket for winner who gets #1 draft slot
Teams 9 and 10 play one game for what? Seems kinda dumb.

Proposal:
All teams ranked 9-14 play first weekend.
Top 4 scoring teams go into playoff bracket (semis and finals). Reseeded by points scored. Winner gets #1 draft slot
Bottom two scoring teams play for places 13/14.
64taxman
      ID: 1310252117
      Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 12:54
new proposal
65AthleticsGuy
      ID: 91052213
      Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 14:05
Are playoffs still starting on the same week as previous years?
66AthleticsGuy
      ID: 91052213
      Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 14:08
We have 18 weeks now, so that’s another thing to consider for any new playoff setups
67Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 16:54
Playoffs don't start until week #15 this year, and will cover weeks 15-17. For situations like this, we usually follow the RIFC league rules (unless we have specific rules to the contrary.) Here is the RIFC playoff setup for this year:
The regular season will cover NFL weeks 1-14. For the first 13 weeks, all teams will be scheduled for doubleheaders, and will face each other team twice during these 13 weeks.

After 13 weeks, the top 6 teams by W/L will be locked into a playoff slot (with seeding yet to be determined based on overall results through weeks 1-14). The final two playoff slots will be based on total points for weeks 1-14.

For week 14, only the top 6 teams in the W/L standings will have head-to-head matchups. The other teams will continue to play, but will compete only for total points.

Teams ranked 1-3 by W/L face each other in week 14 matchups (1 vs 2, 1 vs 3, 2 vs 3). Those teams will then be seeded as the top 3 in the playoffs, based on total W/L records for the entire regular season, including week 14.

Teams ranked 4-6 by W/L face each other in week 14 matchups (4 vs 5, 4 vs 6, 5 vs 6). After week #14, the team (of those three teams) with the best overall W/L record (for all 14 weeks) will be seeded #4. The other two teams will still be playoff bound, but will be seeded based on total points.

Teams ranked 7-14 will compete for total points only in week 14. They will have no stated matchups for that week. After week 14, the two of these teams with the highest total points for the whole season will be added to the playoffs.


68Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 17:02
[63] as I understand the proposal, the 9th place team could now win the #1 draft pick for the following year. The current rule only offers that potential to the teams ranked 11-14.

Is that desirable?
69AthleticsGuy
      ID: 91052213
      Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 18:25
On the MFL site, it’s still showing week 14 as the start of the playoffs with no regular season matchups.
70Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 19:11
Regular season matchups for week 14 won't be set until after week 13, since the matchups are dependent on the results for the first 13 weeks.
71Doug
      ID: 5310121411
      Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 19:27
Copying my reaction from the other thread:

I prefer keeping the #1 draft slot for 11-14 teams than giving the 9-10 teams (who generally would have better odds at winning given their reg season performance). 9-10 teams barely missed playoffs, they don't need to steal #1 slot from an even more needy team.
72Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 10:24
I agree with Doug.

We could always run two separate consolation brackets.

Keep the Toilet Bowl bracket unchanged, for teams seeded 11-14, with winner getting the top draft pick.

Run a separate bracket for teams seeded 9-14, perhaps set up as Judy suggested.
73SwinganaMiss
      ID: 259301311
      Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 10:24
We are changing this rule to "Week 14", right?

Only players on a manager's roster at the end of NFL Week 13 and who remain on that roster throughout the playoffs are eligible to be kept the following season.
74Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 11:35
That would certainly be consistent with the intent of the rule.
75Doug
      ID: 5310121411
      Fri, Dec 03, 2021, 09:04
Agree
76Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 10:08
Playoff seeds are determined.

Seeds 1-3 based on W/L:
1. Snoop Dougg
2. Swinganamiss
3. IAC

It does not appear that any scoring adjustments posted on Thursday will change this seeding, even though one game was settled by just 0.18 points.

The #4 seed is the team with the best record of the 4-6 teams. That's my team.

The 5-6 teams based on W/L are Oaktown and twolves. Of the other teams, the two with the most points are Luxury tax and TD Dragons. Those four teams are seeded based on points, and it is unlikely that scoring corrections will have any impact on those seedings.

So the remaining seeds are
4. Guru
5. Oaktown
6. Luxury Tax
7. TD Dragons
8. Twolves

I will set up the championship bracket shortly.

The remaining teams will be slotted into the various consolation brackets.

Remember that teams must start two RBs each week during the playoffs. (The bye week flex option is over.)
77Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 10:17
I think I have everything set up. Let me know if something seems wrong. (My understanding is that Judy is away for the next couple of days, so I stepped in.)

Remember that, during the playoffs, blind bidding occurs at 3pm ET on Thursday. The delay is to allow stat corrections to be processed before bidding takes place.

Only managers in the championship bracket may submit bids. Bid $ have been adjusted in accordance with seeding. Starting at 6pm ET Thursday, all teams still active in any playoff bracket (champ & consolation) may do FCFS free agent add/drops.
78Judy
      ID: 5022912
      Sun, Jan 09, 2022, 13:26
Congrats to Snoop.

Regular season and playoff champion!


Here is the order of playoff finish (not the same as draft order tho)

1. Snoop Doug
2. Swinganamiss
3. Luxury Tax
4. Oaktown Raiders
5. Rotoguru Klingons
6. IAC’s keepers
7. twolves
8. TD Dragons
9. Island Bombers
10. Ford Standard
11. team x. (Also as toilet bowl winner has #1 draft pick)
12. Ghostwood
13. Art of Monk
14. Smithfield Tigers

Thanks to all for a peaceful season and I hope to see you again for 2022. If you know now you will not be back let me know when you decide.

Stay safe everyone.
79Doug
      ID: 460151011
      Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 12:15
Thanks Judy!

Question... can we clean up rosters by dropping non-keepable players (those acquired during playoffs)?

In my case that's:

Burkhead, Rex HOU RB
Janovich, Andy CLE RB
Johnson, D'Ernest CLE RB
Davis, Gabriel BUF WR
Reynolds, Josh DET WR
Williams, Leonard NYG DE
Willis, Khari IND S
RotoGuru Football Leagues & Standings

View the Forum Registry

XML Get RSS Feed for this thread


Self-edit this thread




Post a reply to this message: 2021 RG 14

Name:
Email:
Message:
Click here to create and insert a link
Click here to insert a block of hidden (spoiler) text
Ignore line feeds? no (typical)   yes (for HTML table input)


Viewing statistics for this thread
Period# Views# Users
Last hour11
Last 24 hours11
Last 7 days66
Last 30 days5831
Since Mar 1, 20073129666