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Subject: The Hardcore 'Fantasy Football' Keeper League III Posted by: IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO - [221441621] Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 09:34 here we go guys..... | ||||||
| 2 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 18712521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 09:47 |
Official League Website Archived - The Hardcore 'Fantasy Football' Keeper League Discussion I Archived - The Hardcore 'Fantasy Football' Keeper League Discussion II 2001 Football Stats for each position and scoring Team By Team Draft Results At times the leagues main page goes down. Most of the time you can still access your team's War Room (aka Draft) page. To link directly to your draft 'war room' page.... Copy & paste "http://www.fantasyleaguefootball.com/~aperfect10/warroom.php?page=addwaive&teamcode=XXXXX" replace XXXXX with your team code... 38929|Junkyard Dogs 460117|Furious Midget Klingon Hordes 762360|dwfffan 842584|Sandwich Town Statics 742776|Art of Monk 309388|Silent Devils 827520|APerfect10 366796|Italian Eagles 271635|Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters 181236|Nerfherders 132056|Ike44 883963|beebop | |||||
| 3 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 10:17 |
Furious Midget ... I'm interested in obtaining your next pick, what would u want for it? | |||||
| 4 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 18712521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 10:18 | Nothing...he is not around and I have his queue. | |||||
| 5 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 10:20 | How about you Nerf if u're around before u pick ... what would u want for this pick? | |||||
| 6 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 11:11 | hey all, sorry I missed my pick or didn't leave queue. something came up and couldn't get on. I guess it's not bad, 1 pick in 12 I wasn't prepared for. hopefully I go longer then that for my next missed pick... | |||||
| 7 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 11:19 |
oh yeah and I understood everything mel said yesterday :) I'm 29 too since you asked | |||||
| 8 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 11:26 | U wishes you could be speaking gooder english like us Canadians Eh!!! | |||||
| 9 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 11:32 |
haha too much 50 last night, nuff said | |||||
| 10 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 12:02 | I made my pick. Ike is up | |||||
| 11 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 15119260 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 12:26 | Nerf is up, clock expires at 2:25pm EST | |||||
| 12 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 12:32 | Puppet Masters is up. (who is that?) | |||||
| 13 | dgrooves ID: 364522113 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 12:33 | Me, and I just picked. | |||||
| 14 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 12:34 | Wow, picks are just flying now arn't they | |||||
| 15 | dwfffan ID: 50717519 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 12:37 | Just got my DSL hooked up, what a trip. | |||||
| 16 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 12:46 | Yeah and wiggs doesnt pick before I get to again! ;) | |||||
| 17 | Doug ID: 3777130 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 12:52 | Just logged on... I'll make my pick in a sec... | |||||
| 18 | mike ID: 556102515 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 12:54 |
you guys all suck you know taking all my players, lol | |||||
| 19 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 12:57 | I hope I took one of your players mike :) | |||||
| 20 | mike ID: 556102515 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 12:59 | let me check nerf :) | |||||
| 21 | mike ID: 556102515 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:00 |
only 1 so far therefore you shall escape my wrath :) | |||||
| 22 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:02 | Oh what a shame. I hoped it would be more! | |||||
| 23 | Doug ID: 3777130 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:02 | OK, I'll try to check in later today to make my 2 round 15 picks (assuming we get there)... please be patient, I promise I won't be long... after those two picks I have to send in a queue for the entire rest of the draft. | |||||
| 24 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:03 | On the other hand, I'm in the process of building the suckiest team in the history of fantasy football, so why should you want any of my players? lol | |||||
| 25 | mike ID: 556102515 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:05 |
ohhhhhhh my calender is going to be marked now no escape for you | |||||
| 26 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:09 | A10 ur up | |||||
| 27 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:37 | At this pace, I'll be lucky to get a Raven... | |||||
| 28 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:47 | I got a raven | |||||
| 29 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:51 |
anyone know when art got on the clock? I want to go do something for a bit but I'm on deck... decisions, decisions | |||||
| 30 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:52 | Oh yeah...watch this :) | |||||
| 31 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:52 |
Arts time expires at 3:30pm EST. You can leave a 2 man queue with me if you like....I'd like to keep things moving. He usually checks in fairly frequently during the day. | |||||
| 32 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:55 | Did I miss something? What happened to Grbac? Did he retire? | |||||
| 33 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:56 | about 6 months ago...he was grbage anyways! | |||||
| 34 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 13:58 |
pay attention nerf :) maybe you should draft elvis since you said you were trying to build the suckiest team | |||||
| 35 | Art of Monk ID: 395332017 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 14:01 | Made my pick. I should make my other picks shortly. | |||||
| 36 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 14:01 |
sent a queue back in an hour or so | |||||
| 37 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 14:02 | ok made my pick forget the queue, lol | |||||
| 38 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 14:03 | by the way art I don't like you anymore :) | |||||
| 39 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 14:03 |
Heh I dunno why but I forget football things really easily. I look at a guy thinking he was a rookie last year and he was a rookie two years ago, or sometimes three years ago! It all melds together. I do better with baseball for some reason. So why did he retire? Just cuz he sucked last year? | |||||
| 40 | Art of Monk ID: 395332017 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 14:29 | We are moving today. Sorry Mike, I don't want anyone to hate me. | |||||
| 41 | Art of Monk ID: 395332017 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 14:57 | I am off to lunch be back in 1-2 hours. | |||||
| 42 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 15:26 |
I didn't say I hated you, I just don't like you, lol my fault, been putting off picking peppers for a couple of rounds | |||||
| 43 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 15:57 | LAZIO has 30 minutes until I draft for him. dwfffan is then up followed by mike (whom I have a queue) then ART, Silent and myself. :) | |||||
| 44 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 15:59 |
I'm here, that queue was for last round. I should be here for my pick but if not I'll email you another one | |||||
| 45 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:00 |
damn guys, you've gone too fast today!! i didn't expect it, so, now that i'm back from being out for dinner, i'll pick in 10 minutes.... | |||||
| 46 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:03 |
lazio, don't pick who I want... please, lol | |||||
| 47 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:09 | How long will the grandfather of RB's still be around?? | |||||
| 48 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:11 | SD, c'mon. You know the rules, so why disregaurd them? | |||||
| 49 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:12 | I leave work at 4:30pm EST therefore I wont be able to pick for LAZIO until 4:50pm EST. He's lucky and catches a 20 min break. | |||||
| 50 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:12 |
hypothetical question... can we pick college kids or do we have to wait for them to be drafted | |||||
| 51 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:15 | phillip daniels.... | |||||
| 52 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:23 | Sorry, my bad. | |||||
| 53 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:30 |
anyone interested in my pick hurry because I'm up next email me whalemail@yahoo.com or aim whalemailm | |||||
| 54 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:30 | What do u want for it? | |||||
| 55 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:31 | nothing in mind, want to see what I'm offered... | |||||
| 56 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:33 | Make me an offer | |||||
| 57 | dwfffan ID: 187571315 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:35 |
APerfect10, please enter Portis,Clinton RB DEN , says i am over limit and wont let me enter. | |||||
| 58 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:39 | Wow he went a lot earlier then I expected ...was gonna take a flyer on him later on ...could be a HUGE sleeper if Terell actually decides to hang em up | |||||
| 59 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:40 |
changed my mind, gonna keep my pick gonna post it here though so that I can take off t.j. duckett rb | |||||
| 60 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:41 |
alright guys...i'll get these 2 in. ART is on the clock... | |||||
| 61 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:42 | Alright post picks here until AP10 gets back. | |||||
| 62 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:43 | Oops nm that. Very active board today! | |||||
| 63 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 16:54 |
man moving fast, gonna have to queue me thinks for rd 15 which also means almost half way there. not too bad for 1 week. | |||||
| 64 | dwfffan ID: 187571315 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 17:03 | I honestly think Terell is done. This is a long shot taking him (Porter) here @ 14.3. Time will tell. | |||||
| 65 | dwfffan ID: 187571315 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 17:05 | Plus it cant get any worse than what I have drafted so far. | |||||
| 66 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 17:09 | I think taking Portis now was a good pick. If you wouldnt have I would of. Terrell Davis IS done, he's been done, this just confirmed it. Portis wont quite have the same line he had at Miami but he should get PT which equates into points for a back. | |||||
| 67 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 17:09 | well, portis is looking great, but so looked olandis and anderson, so he could easily be gold or thrash.....it's a risk..... | |||||
| 68 | mike ID: 42740811 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 17:16 |
ok I'm outta here. may be able to check in tonight but I'll have to see. I send a queue for rd 15 in though later all | |||||
| 69 | Doug ID: 37291216 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 17:23 | Just checking in... gotta go run errands for a couple hours before my round 15 pick... | |||||
| 70 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 17:27 | LAZIO is up... | |||||
| 71 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 17:28 | Doug, leave a 2 man queue so we can keep moving. We'll get to you VERY soon! | |||||
| 72 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 17:59 | jamie sharper....there we go.... | |||||
| 73 | dgrooves ID: 364522113 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 18:09 | It says Im over the limit...Derek can you pick Warrick Dunn for me | |||||
| 74 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 18:17 |
i need to get that fixed...i have no clue why it does that. DONE..Nerf is on the clock as of 6:10pm EST. | |||||
| 75 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 18:20 | Ike up. | |||||
| 76 | beebop@school ID: 457511218 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 18:24 | Just made my pick.....After my exam ill try and get to a computer and leave a que....... | |||||
| 77 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 19:11 | thanks beebop...email me your queue. | |||||
| 78 | Doug ID: 3777130 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 19:13 | Hope I'm not making a mistake by taking a guy who's injured... I don't have time to check on things like that... will send a queue to Derek for next pick. | |||||
| 79 | Doug ID: 3777130 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 19:14 | I'm taking Hines Ward, but it won't let me add a 4th WR... please do it for me... | |||||
| 80 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 19:47 | ok, so ike is up now, please post here your pick if the site doesn't allow you to pick.....c'mon IKE's turn. | |||||
| 81 | Ike44 ID: 10821818 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 19:54 | <15.2 Willie Jackson, WR | |||||
| 82 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 19:55 | nerf is up now | |||||
| 83 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 19:55 | 15.3 Lamar Smith, RB | |||||
| 84 | Ike44 ID: 10821818 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 19:55 | nerf is up... | |||||
| 85 | Ike44 ID: 10821818 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 19:56 |
wow that was quick lol | |||||
| 86 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 19:58 | Hey Im all over it today, man :) | |||||
| 87 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 20:05 | Wow fours picks in one day. That has to be a record. | |||||
| 88 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 20:10 | Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters is up, than it's doug's turn again but doug left a queue to derek who picks after him, so it should be easily a fast thing.....than silent's turn. | |||||
| 89 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 20:49 | dgrooves, you're up.... | |||||
| 90 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 21:04 | IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT: guys, since in the week end the draft will hault, we should need to set another "online meeting" to speed it up and draft a certain number of rounds. I hope that everybody will agree and try to be online in a chatroom similiar to the first one. The day should be friday or the day before, according to everybody's convenience.....post here your comment to this, and please try everything to be with us in that day....thanks. | |||||
| 91 | Silent Devil ID: 5410252511 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 21:11 | Umm I can do it this Friday ... but then on the weekend I have a wedding so I have no idea if I'll have access to a comp in this small town called Belleville (Gino Romeo u might know the town ;) I'll try to get my bro to draft for me if not I might have to leave a que for the day and a half ... hopefully we can all meet sometime Friday or earlier so we can get a good solid chunk of rounds done. So far everyone has been drafting pretty swiftly so hopefully we can get this done!! Good luck everyone! | |||||
| 92 | Art of Monk ID: 395332017 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 21:15 | Friday is out for me. I will be out of town until Monday night. What about Tuesday? I will leave a que. | |||||
| 93 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 21:17 | I fixed the "Over the limit" problem. Here I entered the max amnt of players on the roster into the max amount of starters and vice versa. That should be fixed! :) | |||||
| 94 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 21:18 |
ATTENTION The draft will be STOPPED this Friday through Sunday. I now have 5 managers who will be out of town and busy. I think the draft is moving fast enough that this 3 day stoppage will not cause any delay. We can get together sometime next week for a live draft and possibly get through a few rounds but it isnt necessary. If everyone in the league is available and is up to live drafting, I'll do it, but I'm not going to force anyone. | |||||
| 95 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 21:25 | wiggs you are now UP.... | |||||
| 96 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 21:28 | ok, so, let's check if we can do it: would you be available on tuesday night to have any rounds of live draft? i am, silent is, art seems to be, so derek,.....now let us know.... | |||||
| 97 | wiggs@apartment ID: 11032171 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 21:30 |
i picked. derek, i am out of town from saturday 17 til saturday 24th. this is what i was telling you before. i will leave a queue. | |||||
| 98 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 21:36 | a big queue....how many players will you rank in it? | |||||
| 99 | dwfffan ID: 187571315 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 21:39 | I am game for a three day stoppage and a live draft anytime next week.. Just let me know. | |||||
| 100 | Art of Monk ID: 395332017 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 21:44 | I check back in late tonite. | |||||
| 101 | dwfffan ID: 187571315 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 21:49 |
How much time does Sandwich Town Statics have? I need to take my son to work in a few. | |||||
| 102 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 22:19 | mike is now up.....c'mon mike!! | |||||
| 103 | Silent Devil ID: 5410252511 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 22:26 | when's his time up | |||||
| 104 | dwfffan ID: 187571315 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 22:29 | Post 68 said he left a queue with Derek for this round. | |||||
| 105 | Silent Devil ID: 5410252511 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 22:30 | so why hasn't D put it through | |||||
| 106 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 22:36 | dwfffan is up... | |||||
| 107 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 22:37 | wiggs try to leave a long, detailed queue with me... | |||||
| 108 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 22:39 |
Tuesday Night Live Draft YES IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO Silent Devil APerfect10 Ike44 Doug Art of Monk NO ? | |||||
| 109 | dwfffan ID: 187571315 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 22:40 | yes | |||||
| 110 | Silent Devil ID: 5410252511 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 22:44 | JYD u r up | |||||
| 111 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 23:03 | he's wiggs....c'mon wiggs!!;-) | |||||
| 112 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Tue, Aug 13, 2002, 23:42 | wiggs can run the clock until noon EST, tomorrow... | |||||
| 113 | Doug ID: 3777130 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 00:17 | I don't know where you got a yes for me, but I'm definitely a no. I leave tomorrow for Utah and may have occasional access through Friday, but I'm not sure so I'm leaving a monster queue with Derek. Maybe that's why I'm listed as "yes", since Derek will be picking for me. Anyway, I won't have regular email access again until I get back to California... about August 26th (depending on how many days we take to finish the race... earlier if we're fast!). | |||||
| 114 | the art of monk ID: 127392513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 00:22 | Hey doug, email tommorrow and I'll give you my cel, number to keep you updated, if I have access up in deer valley, also let me know where you will be competing, I will be at the top of provo canyon. Late. I'll be back 10amest or so. | |||||
| 115 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 01:06 |
Doug, when you state that you will be leaving a queue with me for the rest of the draft, I assume that means I'll have your full list by Tuesday. You also stated that you would be in the middle of nowhere so I assumed no computer access which led to a queue the rest of the way. Anyways, either way I would assume we would be completed by the 26th... | |||||
| 116 | Nerfherders ID: 43818813 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 01:24 | I vote no for Tuesday. Tuesdays only bad night of the week for me. | |||||
| 117 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 10:03 | Ham Sandwich u're up | |||||
| 118 | the art of monk ID: 127392513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 10:53 |
anyone around, I want to leave a que with someone | |||||
| 119 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 18712521 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:00 | I'm always around :) (What a difference a day makes! Slow today) | |||||
| 120 | the art of monk ID: 127392513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:03 | can you get on aim. want to leave you a que. | |||||
| 121 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:05 | How long does Salami Sandwich have left on the clock? | |||||
| 122 | the art of monk ID: 127392513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:09 | mr. devil can you get on aim. I want to leave a que and my email is messed up right now. I have about another 15 minutes and then I will be gone for about 2-3 hours. | |||||
| 123 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:15 | Sorry bro I'm at work no AIM ... dunno what u can do ... | |||||
| 124 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:16 | Maybe just post 'em here unless u'r scared Salami's going to steal ur pick ... I doubt he would though ... up 2 u , try to find Derek | |||||
| 125 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:18 | i'm on aim | |||||
| 126 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 18712521 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:24 | He already gave me his queue... | |||||
| 127 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 18712521 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:24 | Work = AIM Express, give it a try! | |||||
| 128 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:33 | How long does Salami have? | |||||
| 129 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 18712521 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:39 | 12pm EST, but I leave for lunch at that time, therefore I wont be able to pick for him until 12:15pm. I will also be able to pick for ART at that time... | |||||
| 130 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 18712521 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:44 |
Broncos | Gary Still Not Perfect - posted at KFFL (http://nfl.kffl.com) 7:17 PT: The Denver Post reports Denver Broncos RB Olandis Gary (leg) has been moved up on the team’s depth chart as the starting RB, but he still isn’t back at full strength. “He’s definitely not 100 percent,” said running backs coach Bobby Turner. “How long that’s going to take to get there, I don’t know.” I guess Clinton Portis wont be the teams starting back for the beginning of the season... | |||||
| 131 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:52 | Man that situation is way 2 cloudy in Denver ... 4 potential starters and every other day there's a chance one or the other will be the starter ... I'm staying away from that whole situation unless it becomes clear who will be the featured back. | |||||
| 132 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 11:59 | I agree. I messed with that &*%$ last year and got burned. I think it will be the famous 'back by commitee' this year. Whoever is the hot, or healthy guy will get the carries. | |||||
| 133 | dwfffan ID: 567341410 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 12:02 | A 14th round pick on the youngest, healthiest, and maybe best of the 4 cant be bad. It is a long season and there is always next year if worth keeping. | |||||
| 134 | dwfffan ID: 567341410 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 12:03 | Plus not a whole lot of RB's left on the board worth taking a chance on. | |||||
| 135 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 12:14 | What do u mean no RB's left!??!? Ben Gay is still around! He'd be worth picking up just for his name alone! | |||||
| 136 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 12:17 | LOL I saw that too. Who the hell IS that guy? and his parents should be shot. | |||||
| 137 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 12:30 | Ha My picks in ...Birds your up ... | |||||
| 138 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 13:22 | Romeo would u be interested in trading that pick u gots right now? I'm interested if u're around | |||||
| 139 | mike ID: 42740811 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 13:43 |
hey guys I'm back sorry didn't directly leave a queue for the round. can't really check at work during the week and one time I peeked in I was still a few picks away. you guys are just too fast :) | |||||
| 140 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 13:47 | mike, happy with your pick? I just used your 2nd man from your queue last night (since it was a different position compared to the 1st) | |||||
| 141 | mike ID: 42740811 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 13:51 | yeah totally, should of said that but didn't think you guys would get back to me at 16. I'll be better prepared next time. thanks | |||||
| 142 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 14:12 | alright...LAZIO has another 20 minutes on the clock until a selection is made for him. | |||||
| 143 | Doug ID: 37291216 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 14:17 | Sent in my queue... have a good draft everyone. Out. | |||||
| 144 | mike ID: 42740811 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 14:29 | later doug, have a good one | |||||
| 145 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 14:37 | I think Lazio's time is up | |||||
| 146 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 14:41 | dgrooves is up... | |||||
| 147 | mike ID: 42740811 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 14:44 | nerf you interested in trading? | |||||
| 148 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 14:48 | Nope, Ike is up. | |||||
| 149 | mike ID: 42740811 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 14:50 |
ahhhhhhhhh curses, foiled again :) ignore the offer I just sent you then, lol | |||||
| 150 | Art of Monk ID: 395332017 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 14:53 | I like you last pick Nerf. | |||||
| 151 | mike ID: 42740811 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 14:55 |
yeah plummer is a solid pick. I was considering him earlier but decided to go with the upside of couch instead of course I've been picking the sob for 3 years now, still waiting for him to do something, lol | |||||
| 152 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 14:55 | Yeah Jake the snake could be a huge sleeper | |||||
| 153 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 15:02 | Ike will probablyl almost use his full 2 hours. He doesnt get home from work until 4:30-5:00. Clock runs out at 5pm EST. | |||||
| 154 | Ike44 ID: 10821818 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 15:05 | beebop is up | |||||
| 155 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 15:07 | Yep looked to me that Plummer finally put things together last year. I had my eye on him as my backup, second choice til Fiedler was taken. | |||||
| 156 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 15:08 |
isn't it possible to have taylor instead of schroeder? here a violent rain interrupted the electric service, so i couldn't connect or use the pc......i've always been punctual, so it would be nice to have the possibility of change the player even if not the position drafted..... i hope you'll understand....thanks. | |||||
| 157 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 15:46 | Ikey, you quit? :) | |||||
| 158 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 15:52 | Ike is up... | |||||
| 159 | mike ID: 42740811 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:01 |
I can't make any night thing unless it's a weekend but we all know what that's like. I say we just rest on the weekend, then go full out next week. we still got 2 1/2 days this week and next week. just my 2 cents | |||||
| 160 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:12 | When I say the draft will be suspended Fri-Sun, I mean all day Friday through Sunday. I'm leaving early Friday morning... | |||||
| 161 | dgrooves ID: 364522113 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:14 | When you say suspended, you mean there is no clock, right? If my pick comes up, I should still be able to make it. | |||||
| 162 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:17 | sure you can pick, but i doubt it will get to you. I have 5 people that arent going to be around, so it'll be stuck on their pick all weekend. | |||||
| 163 | mike ID: 42740811 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:18 |
yeah that's cool I just think we're moving at a good pace. I just don't want to have to miss a live draft and end up not liking my team. no worries if I have to, just I fly by the seat of the pants usually with my picks. like I plan to grab someone but based on what goes on around me I often change my mind. | |||||
| 164 | mike ID: 42740811 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:20 | I'm off for like 30 minutes, if it gets to me don't worry I'll have my pick made by 5:30 at the very latest | |||||
| 165 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:26 | What does a furious midget Klingon look like anyways? | |||||
| 166 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:28 | Worf's son Alexander? | |||||
| 167 | dgrooves ID: 364522113 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:28 | AP10, didnt Doug leave a queue? | |||||
| 168 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:35 |
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| 169 | wiggs@apartment ID: 11032171 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:36 | hey fellas, i am going out to dinner for my bday. i should be home around 9 est. i am 8 picks away so i dont figure it will get to me and if it does it wont be there long. i will catch you all later. | |||||
| 170 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:40 | Happy b-day bro ...have a good one. | |||||
| 171 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:46 | Caw caw, birds u're up | |||||
| 172 | Art of Monk ID: 395332017 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 16:53 | isn't devil's up | |||||
| 173 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 17:00 | Took Porcher | |||||
| 174 | mike ID: 26771417 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 17:07 | aha back just in time | |||||
| 175 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 17:28 | Bah I kept holding off and holding off on Porcher, and I held off too late. | |||||
| 176 | mike ID: 26771417 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 17:28 | I picked dwffan it's you buddy | |||||
| 177 | mike ID: 26771417 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 17:30 |
yeah I hear you nerf, that's the story of my draft that's why I picked johnson now instead of waiting a bit, didn't want to get burned on it. plus dwffan hadn't picked a te yet and he picked after me played a bit | |||||
| 178 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 17:36 |
Derrick Mason's left leg briefly went numb below the knee after a collision in 1-on-1 drills during afternoon practice Tuesday. Mason was held out of the rest of practice but said he felt ''100 percent'' and is expected to play tomorrow vs. the Raiders. *zoinks* I almost passed out! | |||||
| 179 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 17:39 | wiggs should have left a queue. ahh well | |||||
| 180 | mike ID: 26771417 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 17:40 |
ok I'll be back at 7:30 to make my pick if it reaches me, and this time I'll be here for sure later | |||||
| 181 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 17:41 | Why did he think that the picks wouldn't get to him until 9?? Might as well just pick for him now then ... | |||||
| 182 | dwfffan ID: 237401414 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 17:50 | beebop your up. | |||||
| 183 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 17:50 | wiggs is on the clock...starting at 5:45pm EST. | |||||
| 184 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 17:52 | I would say he wont be back in time, but the slacker gets 4 hours cuz of two picks. He sure does milk the clock for all it's worth. ;) | |||||
| 185 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 17:53 | Alright everyone. smoke em if you got him. It's break time. :) | |||||
| 186 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 18:18 | I just said post 184 for Ike a few minutes ago...and I love the phrase "Smoke em if ya got em!" | |||||
| 187 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 18:18 | er, to ike | |||||
| 188 | mike ID: 42740811 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 19:17 |
I'm back but I think I'm just going queue for this round. I'm tired and just want to relax. plus I'm hungry :) chef boyardee here I come, lol | |||||
| 189 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 19:26 | woot, he makes a mean can of pasta. | |||||
| 190 | mike ID: 42740811 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 19:35 |
you know it baby queue sent, I'm off for the night, see ya tomorrow guys | |||||
| 191 | beebop@school ID: 457511218 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 20:59 | Okay, im here.....and if the computer im on at school is fast enough.....ill leave a que with derek for about 3-6 rounds........ | |||||
| 192 | wiggs ID: 1911252811 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 21:29 |
hey all. I tried to pick, but it wont let me. I imed derek to ask him to pick for me. I took brock marion and greg ellis. nerf, sorry i inconvienced you. its not like we have never waited for you. I sit here all the time and wait for my pick. | |||||
| 193 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 21:48 | derek, maybe you missed it....i asked you and to all other members, explaining which was my problem, if it was possible to have taylor instead of schroeder.....i really didn't want to draft a wr, but even keeping that position i was wondering if it was possible to avoid schroeder since he seems to be not 100% phisically....thanks. | |||||
| 194 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 21:54 |
wiggs, it let me pick them just fine. It must have been on your end. LAZIO, I'm not sure and quite frankly I'm not sure I have the authority to change something like that. Ask the league, and if the vote is 2/3+ I will change your pick. | |||||
| 195 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 21:58 | I switched them. If anyone has an issue, we can discuss it further. | |||||
| 196 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 22:04 | dwfffan is up | |||||
| 197 | Silent Devil ID: 5410252511 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 22:05 | I'm cool ... no doubt Lazia wanted to be there he just lucked out ... I have no probs switching em' as long as everyone else is cool ... both are equally 50/50 and I see no reason not too ...if anyone else objects then I guess we have a case ... but if everyone else cares as little as I do then we'll let him get away with this little switcheroo ;) just my 2 cents ... | |||||
| 198 | wiggs@apartment ID: 11032171 Wed, Aug 14, 2002, 22:30 | derek, i think the problem was on my end. I always have problems trying to pick from my parents computer. i dont know why, but i do. thanks for picking for me. i appriciate it. | |||||
| 199 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 00:12 |
ATTENTION From this point forward, if you miss a pick you will be penalized 6 spots, if you then miss that pick I will pick for you. 2+ man queue rule voids the above | |||||
| 200 | dwfffan ID: 237401414 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 05:12 | Derek, please explain this time limit thing, clock is on from when to when and when do you decide to pick for a person? I see you were in such a hurry to pick for me to get one spot further. Just wondering..... | |||||
| 201 | beebop ID: 30644276 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 05:43 | My computer is fixed....for now......but ive still left a que with derek......depends on how fast it goes, what time i wake up etc. | |||||
| 202 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 07:50 | dwfffan, the clock runs from 10am EST - 1am EST. You started on the clock at 10pm EST therefore your time ran out at midnight. 2 hours is 2 hours, it doesnt matter if we get 10 people further or none. I did have Art's queue so we could've went further, but I decided to let him use the clock, so in actuality we could've progressed further but I decided against it. | |||||
| 203 | dwfffan@work ID: 19640317 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 07:55 | So what is the deciding factor on what player you choose? | |||||
| 204 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 18712521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 08:06 | I look at what starting positions you need and select the highest scoring player from 2001. This has already been stated in the rules. | |||||
| 205 | dwfffan@work ID: 19640317 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 08:23 | No problem, I hope Chad Bratzke was convenient. | |||||
| 206 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 08:53 | I'm here I'll make my pick in a few minutes ... | |||||
| 207 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 09:30 | Took Ryan Mcneil ... neeext let's get this days drafting rolling! | |||||
| 208 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 18712521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 10:01 | LAZIO is on the clock | |||||
| 209 | beebop ID: 30644276 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 10:18 |
Im here....not sure for how long yet....its just past midnight now.....saw Signs, it was good. Ap10 has my que if i fall asleep..... | |||||
| 210 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 10:23 | midnight? where r u from Beepop | |||||
| 211 | beebop ID: 30644276 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 10:27 | Sydney, Australia. | |||||
| 212 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 18712521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 10:28 |
14 hours ahead of US, EST If I ever vacation to Australia, can I stay with you beebop :) | |||||
| 213 | beebop ID: 30644276 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 10:30 | Lol....of course....its always good to have the baseball/basketball games during the day. Come home from school, and the games are finished, or just finishing... | |||||
| 214 | beebop ID: 30644276 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 10:31 | Is it possible to get saarloos and quicjly put him in my lineup before the games start??? lol... | |||||
| 215 | beebop ID: 30644276 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 10:36 |
Well...im off....ill be back hopefully in about 6-7 hours....happy drafting. And dont take any of my players:) i cant even remember who i put in my que....lol | |||||
| 216 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 10:48 | Muppet Master u're up | |||||
| 217 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 10:49 |
picked kerry collins....didn't look to how nice is his schedule before.....now he's mine.;-) the addiction of a main target as shockey will open the field and he should have more space to throw.....hopefully..... | |||||
| 218 | dgrooves@work ID: 40728910 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 10:58 |
Muppet??? Anyway, I just pick and Nerf is up. | |||||
| 219 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 11:08 | Waka waka waaaakaaaa | |||||
| 220 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 18712521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 11:22 | Ikes on the clock and he didnt leave me a queue. I"ll let his time run out but I'll probably have to pick for him... | |||||
| 221 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 11:29 | Grrrr!!! | |||||
| 222 | dgrooves@work ID: 40728910 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 11:36 | Silent, hmmm...I guess you dont get my team name. Well most people dont get it; you have to be a Seinfeld fan to understand. | |||||
| 223 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 11:43 | Hrmmm I loved Seinfeld ... !? What episode was that from? | |||||
| 224 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 11:43 | These Pretzels are making me thirsty! | |||||
| 225 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 12:11 | You guys are a crazy bunch, I tell ya... wiggs, I was just jabbing at you, no harm intended. :) | |||||
| 226 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 12:27 |
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| 227 | mike ID: 42740811 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 12:42 |
hey all i'm back, but I'm not up for a bit. now gotta catch up with all I missed. just glad I got cowart. been wanting him for a while and finally pulled the trigger. | |||||
| 228 | dgrooves@work ID: 40728910 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 13:15 | I sort of came up with the name myself; it isnt mentioned word for word in any epsiode. The idea came from the episode that Kramer moves down to Florida to live in Del Boca Vista, the retirement community that Jerry's parents live in. Morty convinces Kramer to run for condo president, because Morty can run anymore (he was impeached and thrown out). Morty wants to set up Kramer as a puppet leader and "pull the strings" from the background. IIRC, Jerry calls the idea a puppet regime. | |||||
| 229 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 13:16 | Ahhhhhhhh!Now I remember! ha funny stuff | |||||
| 230 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 13:19 | Nerf is up | |||||
| 231 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 13:24 | dgrooves is up! | |||||
| 232 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 13:29 | Nice finally things r speeding up again! | |||||
| 233 | dgrooves@work ID: 40728910 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 13:35 | Derek, are you getting your IMs right now? | |||||
| 234 | dgrooves@work ID: 40728910 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 13:40 | Derek, please check your mail...Its important | |||||
| 235 | Danny Boy ID: 127392513 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 13:45 |
I am off for vaction. AP10 I left a que on aim, not sure if you got it. When I am up giv me a call on my cel. I will cal you back | |||||
| 236 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 13:58 | Art u're up | |||||
| 237 | dwfffan ID: 237401414 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 14:28 | All yours beebop / Derek | |||||
| 238 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 14:37 | wiggs on the clock at 2:40pm EST | |||||
| 239 | mike ID: 42740811 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 14:39 | damn, moving fast this round | |||||
| 240 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 14:58 | Hey Derek, how come Bates isn't showing up on my Roster ...he was there earlier now he's not coming up | |||||
| 241 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 15:29 |
No clue...
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| 242 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 15:37 | Has JYD ever made a pick on time?!? ha | |||||
| 243 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 21693013 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 15:44 |
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| 244 | mike ID: 42740811 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 16:13 | ummmmmmmmmmmmm ok, but of what | |||||
| 245 | mike ID: 42740811 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 16:14 | ok going for a little, I'll be around to make my pick (or leave a queue) | |||||
| 246 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 16:43 | Its a junkyard dog! | |||||
| 247 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 16:50 | ha | |||||
| 248 | dgrooves ID: 364522113 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 16:50 | Im not sure I understand why wiggs gets 4 consecutive hours to make these picks. Its obvious that he should get 4 total hours, but I think he should be penalized for missing his pick in round 19. I dont think he should get preferntial treatment because he has back to back picks. | |||||
| 249 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 16:51 | i've got one junkyard dog, she's a doberman called cleopatra......but surely she would be able to pick faster than wiggs;-) | |||||
| 250 | dwfffan ID: 237401414 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 16:52 | dgrooves, Ahmen to your #248 post! | |||||
| 251 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 16:56 | Yeah it sucks, it keeps holding up the draft and then everyone else gets impatient and leaves and only check in once in awhile and it just slows the whole day down. That's like the 4th time I remember now we were FlYiNg through picks super fast until it came to the dog and next thing u know the draft has slowed to a crawl again ... I think after 2 hours he should lose 1 of the two picks (commish picks for him) it's not fair to the rest of us who are always checking in and trying to keep this thing moving ... just my cheap 2 cents | |||||
| 252 | dwfffan ID: 237401414 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 16:59 | "dwfffan, the clock runs from 10am EST - 1am EST. 2 hours is 2 hours" | |||||
| 253 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:02 | ??? | |||||
| 254 | dwfffan ID: 237401414 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:07 | Regarding post #202.. | |||||
| 255 | dgrooves ID: 364522113 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:10 |
Not only should he have the pick made for him, he should suffer the 6 pick penalty. Derek, what happened to the rules you stated in posts 199 and 202? Why dont they apply to wiggs? Silent, I think dwfffan was saying there seems to be a double standard. | |||||
| 256 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:10 | i totally agree with you guys. plus, i stay up until 5 am sometimes to make my pick and to not slow the draft, so it seems a little too much to give someone 4 hours to make is pick.....damn, considering that we'll stop drafting for 3 straight days we must try to speed it up instead of slowing it..... | |||||
| 257 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:21 | How much time does lil' bowow still have? | |||||
| 258 | mike ID: 207241517 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:24 |
don't mean to sound like a broken record but I agree. he should get 4 hours... but not for both picks. he should lose the first pick, have it made for him, whatever. he's gotta start leaving queues, at least for one pick. I understand if you want to be around for one of your picks but still | |||||
| 259 | mike ID: 207241517 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:26 |
oh and laz hate to say this but I vote against the schroeder/taylor switch. you miss your pick you miss your pick, past track record doesn't matter. I didn't really want jerry rice but I took him because that's the rules. too much time has passed in the draft to make a change. how many people might of wanted to draft schroeder if he had been available? | |||||
| 260 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:29 | ZoiNkS how long does he have LefT?! | |||||
| 261 | dwfffan ID: 237401414 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:29 | I have to agree with Mike, I got stuck with a pick that I had no intentions on making also. But it is the price I paid for missing a pick. | |||||
| 262 | mike ID: 207241517 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:34 |
damn scary people scare me. some guy sitting next to me at the library on a computer laughing all crazy like... I know this has nothing to do with this but I had to tell someone :) | |||||
| 263 | mike ID: 207241517 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:36 |
so what's the make up here in the league? best I can figure 1 Italy 1 Australia 2 Canada 8 U.S. this right? | |||||
| 264 | mike ID: 207241517 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:37 |
if this is right and we're doing the 3 division format we should have an international division and 2 american :) on a more relevant note I'm taking off. I'll be back around 7:30 est to make my pick, leave a queue. I'd leave one now just want to see what shakes out in the 4 picks before mine. sorry to hold things up | |||||
| 265 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:38 |
1 more hour left...6:30 time expires. To what benefit would it be to split the 4 hours up into 2 & 2? How could it ever possibly benefit the rest of the league? I have clearly stated before the draft took place that 2 hours is the limit but not the deciding factor. If the manager who's time has expired makes a pick before the next managers makes a pick, so be it. (That is how the NFL draft works guys) Therefore with back-2-back picks, the next managers (which would be himself) wouldnt make a pick therefore he can use the full 4 hours for both of his picks. Like it or not, thats how it is. I feel a lot of people are getting upset at me for making picks for them. The rules are the rules. You should be mad at yourself, not me. I'm just enforcing the rules. Every manager had an equal opportunity to set these rules so there should be no complaints. If you dont like your auto-selection, to bad. Be on time with your selections and no picks will be made. Seriously, I'm tired of the crying... | |||||
| 266 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:42 | Man, my friend used to work in an internet cafe and she would tell me stories about the "corner room" where all the freaks and weirdos would go to use the computer ... she'd found condoms, stains and many various other sorts of sick freakness ... how low do u have to be to get your kicks going to a filthy internet cafe and downloading animal porn ... yeeesh the sad thing is any intellegent 12 year old has access to the same things ... | |||||
| 267 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:45 |
;( ' ' | |||||
| 268 | mike ID: 207241517 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:46 |
it's not crying, it's a legimate question if I get 2 hours for one pick it should apply to him too. doesn't matter if their back to back or not the benefit is that everyone falls under the same rules I'm not trying to make a big thing out of this. in the grand scheme of things this is small I know but it's just a matter of principal the way I see it. basically it's your call. I'm just giving my 2 cents on something that came up on the board. and for the I'm not mad at jyd or you for any of this or that you pick players. like I said above I missed my pick, I know the rules, I'm taking what I was given. I just don't want to see something like this blown out of proportion. ok off for now for real :) | |||||
| 269 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:49 | On a side note, isnt it funny how all 11 managers are impatient when someone is using the full time but when their time expires they complain that a pick was made. Its a double standard. I havent played favorites to any manager. Today I made 2 selections for Ike (who is my best friend). To be honest, I feel every auto-selection made was a solid pick and will benefit your team. It may not fit into your strategy/scheme but I am not a mindreader. How hard is it to leave a 2 man queue? No one can sit here and tell me they dont have atleast 2 players they want before it is their pick. | |||||
| 270 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:53 |
mike, and I am respectful of you for not complaining. It is valid to raise a question such as this but to raise it in terms of 'payback' is not acceptable and that is how I feel this issue has arose. Think of it like this. The manager who only has a single pick, and gets 2 hours, can miss his turn and only pay the penalty for missing one pick. The manager who has back-2-back picks misses his turn and he gets penalized 2 picks. That isnt fair either. You really dont think these 2 balance out? I still do not understand how it would benefit the league to not combine both 2 hour picks and I dont think equality is a valid issue. | |||||
| 271 | dwfffan ID: 237401414 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 17:58 |
I was not crying either, just thought a trend was developing and wanted you to state the rule for me. I realize I missed a pick, and for that I will take the penilty. And yes you were fair with the selection. (Not in my plans, but fair enough) Our point is stated and so is yours. Enough said on this and lets move on. | |||||
| 272 | Silent Devil ID: 21725814 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 18:00 | Of course my opinion is worthless but I agree with Mike (sorry big D) I have never missed a pick (thank God) but I can understand why someone would be upset ... essentially JYD is getting 4 hours (6 at one point) every time his pick comes up ... and if he shows up with 1 minute left in that 4 hours he isn't penalized in any way ...meanwhile EVERYONE else in the draft has 2 hours or else they are penalized by having the commish pick for them (even if it is a great pick it is still a penalty because it was not YOUR pick) In essence I think everyone is upset because they maybe missed there pick by a few minutes or even an hour but had they been JYD they would not have. I agree that if he is not here after 2 hours he should lose a pick ... even though the next manager picking is himself that has nothing to do with it ...others have and will be penalized for being a few minutes late while he is getting a definate advantage ... he gets more time to think ...more time to study ...more time to read updates ...more time to get some sleeper tips more time to take a dump, ha whatever the case may be.... AND he is also not losing anything whatsoever by taking his sweet time. Not a big thing, it really doesn't bother me at all because I have not missed a pick but I can definately understand why others think it's unfair ...again ...just my cheap 2 cents. | |||||
| 273 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 18:02 | So basically you are saying he has to make 2 picks within 2 hours. Why on earth would he make 1 pick in 2 hours then a 2nd in another 2 hours. Your suggestion is flawed and biased. Sorry, no changes will be made. | |||||
| 274 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 18:11 | One last point then I'm finished. :) It doesnt matter if he makes his pick in 1 min or 1:59 he is still following the rules. Sure I wish everyone made their picks right away, but thats impossible. There is no fair system to credit quick picks vs slower picks. That is why a flat time is set. | |||||
| 275 | Nerfherders ID: 2075513 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 18:16 | I dont feel like checkin in and Ill be busy with other things most of the evening, so Im sending along a couple of queues. | |||||
| 276 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 18:36 |
6 pick penalty issued to both picks. LAZIO is on the clock until 8:40pm EST | |||||
| 277 | Silent Devil ID: 5410252511 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 18:37 | Flawed and Biased? Ummm k .... | |||||
| 278 | Silent Devil ID: 5410252511 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 18:44 | and just for the record he does not have to make 2 picks in 2 hours ...he has to make 1 pick in two hours ... JuSt LiKe EvErYoNe else ... if he doesn't make it for the first pick he loses it just like anyone else ... why is he getting special treatment because he has the next pick? Rules are rules, "2 hours is 2 hours" ... and I don't think anyone would have a problem with this if he didn't CONSISTENTLY keep abusing it and holding up the draft ... AND for goodness sakes he must have learned by now why doesn't he send in a fricken' que!!! | |||||
| 279 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 19:10 | picked anthony henry just 1 min. ago.....is he good? | |||||
| 280 | mike ID: 42740811 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 19:24 |
business certainly is picking up here on the message board :) probably going to have a couple of different posts to reply to 269-270-I think we have a mix up in communication here. I don't see it as a matter of payback. like I've said if you miss your pick tough for you. we set the rules and now live with them. you don't have a right to bitch or cry or whatever on who was picked for you. however it is a matter of fairness. you said... Think of it like this. The manager who only has a single pick, and gets 2 hours, can miss his turn and only pay the penalty for missing one pick. The manager who has back-2-back picks misses his turn and he gets penalized 2 picks. That isnt fair either. You really dont think these 2 balance out? I still do not understand how it would benefit the league to not combine both 2 hour picks and I dont think equality is a valid issue." we're not saying he should 2 hours for both picks. we're saying after 2 hours you select one player for him. then he's back on the clock for a 2nd 2 hours. that passes up then you select again. we can't bank time from one of our picks onto our next round pick. but the turn around guys can swoop in at 3:50 and make 2 picks. he should be penalized the one pick he did miss for the first 2 hours. now this may of all been covered, I'm about 10 posts behind, but just want to straighten out what I read as a mix up in intent on us that brought up the questions. more from me I'm sure in a second... | |||||
| 281 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 19:24 | Ok guys, you made your point and I will agree to disagree. You should've made your case before the rules were made and before the draft started. Its to late now... | |||||
| 282 | mike ID: 42740811 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 19:27 |
I didn't know this was an issue before the draft. I always assumed each pick was 2 hours. whatever though so can I ask why the switch now to the 6 pick drop? is it because of the complaining? I have a feeling we'll agree to disagree on this move as well but like I said above whatever... I'll make my picks and move on... | |||||
| 283 | mike ID: 42740811 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 19:31 |
on to a different issue now what about moving the clock up to 90min next week to try and get this thing finished? | |||||
| 284 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 19:40 |
agree with 283......and going to start a new thread because this is slowing a bit.....at least the league's thread will not slow down as the draft.... :-) see ya there. | |||||
| 285 | mike ID: 42740811 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 19:41 |
my pick is made, left a queue in case we zip down the list again. I'm outta here, night full of beer, wrestling and rock 'n roll have a good one all | |||||
| 286 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 19:41 |
Reasons for switching to the 6 pick penalty - We are far enough into the draft that a 6 pick penalty isnt quite the issue it was in the beginning rounds. - I'm sick and tired of making picks for people and they complain - Dropping six spots is easier for me | |||||
| 287 | mike ID: 42740811 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 19:42 |
k cool just wondering like I said we agree to disagree but it's all good. have a good weekend man | |||||
| 288 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 20:30 |
great...Art left me his phone # on AIM so I could call him when it was his turn. Here my sister rebooted my computer while I was at work and his phone number was lost. He said he would be checking in sometime tonight. I have to shut off the clock for his pick since this is my fault. Hopefully he checks in sooner rather than later! Sorry for this inconvenience :( | |||||
| 289 | dgrooves ID: 437181520 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 20:31 |
I really think this is BS. Im not content to agree to disagree. JYD potentially has 3:59:59 to make one pick, while everyone else has 2 hours. That simply is not fair. There is no reason his picks should be lumped together. No reason whatsoever. Say if his clock for pick 30.12 starts at 1pm. If 3pm rolls around and he still hasnt picked, his 30.12 pick should be dropped 6 spots. Then the clock starts for his 31.1 pick. If 5pm rolls around, then that pick should also be dropped 6 spots. Im not trying to be personal, but everyone except for Derek thinks JYD has an unfair (and illegal, according to the rules Derek has stated) advantage. I dont think its fair for the unanimous opinion of the league to be overruled by the commissioner. 2 hours should be 2 hours, not 3:59:59. | |||||
| 290 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 20:48 |
dgrooves, a lot of errors... JYD potentially has 3:59:59 to make TWO picks. 4:00/2 = 2:00 The rules state that this is LEGAL not illegal. You state that it is unfair but do not give an explanation. You state that he has an unfair advantage, but dont explain. Either way, even if you were correct, it is to late to change. You CANT change the rules in the middle of a draft. That is UNFAIR. Btw, I dont think you have a unamimous decision. If you really want to take a vote on this, I'm sure I can come up with 5 votes... | |||||
| 291 | Silent Devil ID: 5410252511 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 20:54 | "Come up" with 5 votes? Ha our league is being run by the Godfather and his henchmen ...haha ;) :P So Art has until 4ever 2 pick??! | |||||
| 292 | dgrooves ID: 437181520 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 20:56 |
No, no errors. Potentially, he has 3:59:59 to make 1 pick and 1 second to make the other pick. A less extreme example is his picks in rounds 17 and 18. He took more than 2 hours to make his round 17 pick. If I, or anyone else in the league, had done this, we would have been penalized or had our pick made for us. Where in the rules does it say that the person(s) with back to back picks has more than 2 hours to make a pick? I thought the rule was "2 hours is 2 hours"? This situation (JYD having 4 consecutive hours to make 2 picks) is unfair because he can take longer than 2 hours to make the first pick. It is not too late to change because nothing needs to be changed. All that has to happen is the rules be followed. You may have 5 votes, but none of those 5 have said anything so far (unless you're one of them). | |||||
| 293 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 21:14 |
Copied and pasted from Draft Rules located under league scoring (Was previously on the main page). If 2 hours passes and a manager has not made a pick or left a 2+ man queue the next person on the draft list can pick. The manager who is being passed over can pick after that 2 hour clock has expired as long as the next person on the board does not make his pick first. If the next manager makes his pick before the original manager (who’s time expired) returns, the original manager will be penalized Please let me know how what wiggs is doing is illegal to the rules that were set prior to the draft and draft order. I dont like that you are trying to imply that I am intentionally giving wiggs a fair advantage. Why would I be? I've already made 2 picks for him and suspended him for 2 picks. Regaurdless of us disagreeing, its rather rude to me to imply that I am purposefully giving wiggs an advantage. Like I've stated. We cant change the rules in the middle of the draft. Period the end. I'm not willing to budge on this. One last thing, each auto-pick was made well after the 2 hours had expired. I even gave you 3 hours last night. So to say that I am giving wiggs 2:15 (or whatever) and giving everyone else 2:00 is a downright lie. | |||||
| 294 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 21:15 |
er... ...imply that I am intentionally giving wiggs an *unfair advantage. | |||||
| 295 | dgrooves ID: 437181520 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 21:20 |
Ok, I had not read that part of the rules. If I had, maybe I would have brought up this issue, but who cares now. I agree that the rules should not be changed during the draft so Im willing to the let the issue die. One more thing...you gave me 3 hours? I thought I picked during the day yesterday. | |||||
| 296 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 21:28 | You are correct. I was thinking of dwfffan. Sorry about that. | |||||
| 297 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO ID: 221441621 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 21:30 | damn guys, we still are at 2/3 of the draft and we're just starting to create personal battles....this will be a huge league in fact of competitivity......anyway, calm ourself and take it easy.....i personally was angry with the 4 hours thing, but, hey, we've still a lot of time untill season starts, so if anyone has problems let's just try to help him, not to penalize him. I find really fair to try to understand other's problems, because we all have different lifes and timing problems, so let's just try to end the draft in the better way possible to set a great competition......we've to stay together for a long time hopefully!!!! derek i deleted my other thread.....excuse me, i just wanted to make it easier for you.... | |||||
| 298 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 21:35 |
LAZIO, I understand. I'm not upset with you and I dont want it to sound controlling but everything stays much neater when I create links in the topic. If you want to create a new thread (Part V, when needed) feel free to. Just make sure you include the links at the top ;) | |||||
| 299 | APerfect10 Leader ID: 39143521 Thu, Aug 15, 2002, 21:36 | We've moved once again! Come join in on the fun :) | |||||
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