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0 Subject: Gurupie 24 "unofficial keepers" and draft talk

Posted by: rockafellerskank
- Leader [461124288] Wed, Jun 25, 2003, 18:40

Much more discussion here too!

Like Baldwin, I too am anxious to see who keeps whom. Nothing posted here will be official until declaration date, but I thought it might be fun to open the door to talk keepers and draft. This will the first of the Gurupie leagues Ref and I have done that has come around to keepers/draft status.

It would seem to reason to me that much of the initial draft talent pool will come from this year's rookie crop, but still, there are some tough decisions for owners.

9 keepers
13 players
Who do you cut?
Ds, Ks, QBs are so rare, do you keep even bad ones?

In looking at my team, off the top I'd say keep
Pennington, Warner, Duce, Mushin, Chris Chambers, Chad Lewis, Dolphins, Cardinals, & Vinetieri.

cut Hearst?, Moe Williams, Rickt Proehl, Michael Westbrook.





1rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Wed, Jun 25, 2003, 18:45
A few notes:

You can negotiate trades via e-mail with other owners at this time-- still subject to commish aproval.

Trades can be 2-1, 3-2, etc.. and may include draft picks.

On that note, there were a couple of draft picks traded away last year:

Baltimore gave up his 2003 2nd round draft pick to Jax in the Price/Manning for Garner/Brunell deal.

Oakland gave up his 1st round 2003 pick to Jax in return for the LOWER of Jax's 2 2nd round 2003 picks in the 49ers D for Jags D deal.

2rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Wed, Jun 25, 2003, 18:47
Lastly, because of issues with who is/isn't eligible for DL, we will be expanding roster size by 1 player for all and eliminating DL. if alayer gets hut, you can carry or cut him, but there will beno DL policing to make sure "injured" players are not stashed there. So, this means that the draft will be 5 rounds. 4 + 1 round to add a player.
3Myboyjack
      Leader
      ID: 14826271
      Wed, Jun 25, 2003, 20:26
Sorry to ask, but how do I get an official list of my final roster from last year?
4rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Wed, Jun 25, 2003, 20:28
MBJ, you have 2 choices:

1) Just ask! :)

2) The website is still up and operational, just go there and look at your team. Here is the log in page for anyone that may need it.
5Myboyjack
      Leader
      ID: 14826271
      Wed, Jun 25, 2003, 20:43
gracias, skank
6StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 355131919
      Wed, Jun 25, 2003, 22:57
Keepers
Plummer, Jake ARI
McAllister, Deuce NO
Porter, Jerry OAK
Smith, Steve Car
Galloway, Joey DAL
Shockey, Jeremy NYG
Mare, Olindo MIA
Redskins WAS
Hilliard, Ike NYG

Releasing:
McCown, Josh ARI
Fenderson, James NO
McAddley, Jason ARI
Crowell, Germane DET
7Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Fri, Jun 27, 2003, 02:35
Keepers
subject to change prior to 7/1
Garcia, Jeff QB
Dunn, Warrick RB
Zereoue, Amos RB
Jones, Thomas RB
Faulk, Kevin RB
Johnson, Keyshawn WR
Fauria, Christian TE
Carney, John K
Eagles DT

I'm open to trades... I've no real studs at the RB position, but but lots of depth with guys who at least get on the field, if that's a position you're looking for.
8Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 11527270
      Fri, Jun 27, 2003, 10:53
I would also suggest posting who you are releasing for us lazy folks ;-)
9Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Fri, Jun 27, 2003, 17:11
doug,

fyi, keeper deadline date is not in stone, but it will NOT be 7/1. That is the date that CP and Dan must respond to our invites to return to come back into the league. We want to have our 24 owners in the mix again before setting deadlines.
10Baldwin
      ID: 111112015
      Sun, Jun 29, 2003, 21:41
I gave my keepers a long long time ago. Do you still have them on record? Not saying I want to change them but if I'm not committed I'll take another look at them. I had no idea we'd have this long till deadline. Freeze them whenever you want to tho.
11Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Mon, Jun 30, 2003, 11:33
When we announce a keeper deadline, you can start turning in your official keeper list. Until then, nothing is official.
12APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Mon, Jun 30, 2003, 22:59
Keepers
Peyton Manning, QB
Ahman Green, RB
Antowain Smith, RB
Peerless Price, WR
Pinkston, Todd WR
Heap, Todd TE
Martin Gramatica, K
Falcons D
Titans D

Releasing
Anthony Wright, QB
Richie Anderson, RB
Ron Johnson, WR
John Davis, TE
13APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Mon, Jun 30, 2003, 23:07
I'm willing to trade all of my players minus Todd Heap...

I would really like to deal Antowain Smith to improve my WR corp, so if you have plenty of WR but need a solid RB, let me know.
14Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Tue, Jul 01, 2003, 01:26
Releasing
Trent Dilfer, QB
Correll Buckhalter, RB
Brandon Stokley, WR
Qadry Ismail, WR

If there's someone here you like, I'm willing to trade. Of course, for it to be make sense for me, I'd need a draft pick, OR we'd need to make it a 2-player swap where I'd combine it with one of my keepers (post 7) in exchange for an upgrade over the keeper that you take.
15CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 48936413
      Tue, Jul 01, 2003, 15:09
Keepers
Mark Brunell
Charlie Garner
Isaac Bruce
Koren Robinson
Peter Warrick
Jaguars Defense
Kyle Brady
Paul Edinger
Marcus Robinson

Releasing
Brandon Bennett
Jay Riemersma
Chad Hutchinson
Frank Sanders
16 penngray
      Donor
      ID: 453492921
      Tue, Jul 01, 2003, 15:49
Kansas City Chief here....

keepers

S. McNair QB
S. Davis RB
T. Hambrick RB
Q. Carter QB
D. Bennet WR
L. Jordan RB
J. Green WR
T Dwight WR
Browns DST


Released
R Williams
D White
B Cundiff

AIM (penngray1)
17Myboyjack
      Leader
      ID: 14826271
      Tue, Jul 01, 2003, 18:51
QB Tommy Maddox
QB Kordell Stewart
RB Corey Dillon
RB Marcel Shipp
WR Rod Gardner
WR Chad Johnson
TE Alge Crumpler
K Jay Feeley
D Baltimore Ravens

RB Jonathon Wells
WR James McKnight
WR Snoop Minnis
K John Hall


18GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 60151121
      Wed, Jul 02, 2003, 00:37
Not sure at all, but would say for now, the below are keepers.

Terrell Owens
Jerramy Stevens
Eddie Kennison
Donald Hayes
Jerome Bettis
Kerry Collins
Cowboys

Not sure about
James Allen
Ron Dayne
James Tuthill
Chad Morton
19Baldwin
      ID: 111112015
      Wed, Jul 02, 2003, 02:25
Keepers

QB McNabb
RB Jamal Lewis
RB Clinton Portis
WR Curtis Conway
WR Johnnie Morton
WR Antwaan Randle El
TE Stephan Alexander
D Bears

on the bubble

do I keep the better kicker Cortez or the kicker on the bad team with the starting job Kris Brown? I will prolly reluctantly drop Cortez unless I read Morton Anderson is finished. Or I could always keep Mike Anderson as Portis insurance and hope a kicker is available in the draft...

Drop

Shane Matthews
Henry Burris
Mike Anderson
20Promize
      Sustainer
      ID: 19431422
      Wed, Jul 02, 2003, 14:16
Wow, time sure does fly... Football already.. yay!

Definite keepers:

R. Gannon
R. Williams
W. Hines
M. Pollard
D. Alkers
Jets D

Possible Keepers:

D. Hall
E. McCaffrey
A. Hakim

Drops or Early Tradeables:

V. Testaverde
Vikings D
J.J. Stokes
D. Levens (Might keep him)
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