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0 Subject: Gurupie 24 draft comment/dicussions V2.0

Posted by: rockafellerskank
- Leader [27652109] Mon, Aug 04, 2003, 12:02

The last thread is pretty long. Time to start an new one.
1promizecrashed
      ID: 19756411
      Mon, Aug 04, 2003, 12:58
My motherboard decided to burn up overnight.. So I am using the campus computers. If my pick gets delayed, it only means I haven't made it up to the college yet to see. Hopefully some picks will be made in the next hour or so... While im still here at school.

If not, it will probably be late tonight or tommorow morning till I see the picks.. All my notes and information are on the other computer as well, so might need a lil time to shuffle through what is available.
2Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Mon, Aug 04, 2003, 15:00
I give up. I'm just going to pick a receiver that should get some time to catch some balls. All of my queue is gone. Some great picks have been made. I thought several of them would fall to me.
3Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 37741315
      Mon, Aug 04, 2003, 16:03
I just couldn't pass up the opportunity at taking a starting QB. Even though the job in Dallas is up in the air at the moment, I believe Hutchinson will win it. AND with the crop of WRs he will be throwing to, I think he can be a serviceable backup for Bledsoe on my team. We'll see......

I would also like to echo ref's comments about the picks that have been made. Great job so far!
4StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 133252814
      Mon, Aug 04, 2003, 18:09
I hedged between Hutchinson and Chapman. The chance for a starting RB outweighed the QB for me, even though I doubt Chapman gets a real chance. Delhomme and Holcomb were both high on my list and I toyed with Leftwitch since he was still there. Boller was a bit lower down. I had a pretty large queue generated, but will certainly be making another one by the time this gets back to me (whenever that may be).
5Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 31649212
      Mon, Aug 04, 2003, 21:11
Well, we're on pace to complete around August 26th (5.5 days per round, 4 rounds to go, ergo 22 days). I remain optimistic that things will actually pick up a bit and not drag on quite that long... am I just foolish?
6rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Mon, Aug 04, 2003, 21:16
I e-mailed the next 3 owners due up. Remember, Ref and I may speed up the time frame if we need to.

rfs

8Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 37741315
      Mon, Aug 04, 2003, 23:08
Woohoo! Round 1 complete. Back up to Action Figures
9deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 00:12
FWIW - Guess I'll settle in with a good book

g'nite all.
10Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 5073650
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 01:41
Argh! My main computer, the one with all my fantasy football files and email and all that, died this evening. I'm pretty sure it's the power supply... so once I get that fixed I should be back up and running. So just an FYI in case it gets back to me tomorrow (I'm still 12 picks away)... I probably won't be on until the evening at the soonest, and I can't leave a queue since my data is unavailable. =-(
11Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 12:14
There has been a trade. CP is now on the clock.
12penngray
      Donor
      ID: 453492921
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 12:25
Thanks Ref for continuing to keep everything organized!

13Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 12:25
We're not going to re-do the draft order for each round with the trades that have been made since the original post. In case we miss it, it is up to each owner to know if he has a pick left or has forfeited that pick due to roster limitations. You will be penalized if you draft a player and you have too many players. If you make a trade during the draft that takes you over the limit, in that trade you must state the player you are dropping. Also, if you have gotten a pick back due to a trade that initially would have forfeited, give people a heads-up so you are not skipped. The original list is in the draft thread. I have announced trades in that draft thread that involves draft order as well as announced all trades during the draft in the commish msg on the home page on the site.
14GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 149272511
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 12:36
REF, RFS,
Something is up with the site.
There are no players on any team and everybody appears to be listed as a free agent.

Will try to make a pick, but is tough figuring out who is available.

Cliff
15Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 12:40
GL must have been a momentary glitch as all is fine as I see it now.
16GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 149272511
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 12:48
Duh,
What an idiot.
Wrong team.
Give me a minute.

Cliff
17skinneej
      Sustainer
      ID: 40625911
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 13:54
Trade to announce

Chicago has traded their 2nd round pick (2.4) for Green Bay's 2nd round pick (2.9) and obtains the rights to Green Bay's 4th round pick (4.9). The deal has been accepted by both parties and will be official when confirmed and accepted.

Green Bay will now be on the clock and I will make my selection when given the ok to proceed.
18CCRider @ Work
      ID: 180342915
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 14:02
Chicago Bears confirm this trade with Green Bay.
19Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 14:18
You guys are creating a lot of work for me!!! But it's great for the league. It was a great trade as skinnee is giving up a pick he wasn't going to get anyhow and CC gets an extra pick for simply moving down a few slots. Works out well for both. Way to use your heads guys! Proceed.
20Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 37741315
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 14:44
Cliff, nice pick with Wiley. I was hoping he would slide back to me, but I wasn't holding my breath with the way all of my picks have flown off the board.
21Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 31649212
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 15:58
Nice trade skinneej... since you weren't going to be able to use your round 4 pick anyway, you essentially gave up absolutely nothing. =-) Well managed. I can only assume CCRider was short a player since THK has his 3rd round pick.
22skinneej
      Sustainer
      ID: 40625911
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 16:47
Thanks, Doug. I had talks with Atlanta doing the same thing at pick 2.1 since they also had one less pick, but I guess AF figured that Bulger might not be around 8 picks later. There were two teams with only 1 QB that picked before mine so he might have been right. As it worked out, I still got the guy I wanted 3 picks later and Chicago gets back a pick that they had traded away. It only cost him 5 spots and he'll probably still get the player he wants. There were no sure bet starting RB left and Allen was the only rb currently listed as first string on the updated depth charts so I felt I had to get him. It was a win-win and I had nothing to lose.
23Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 16:54
I looked hard at allen before settling on Patten with my pick.
24GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 149272511
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 17:28
Amazingly, I got both Wiley and Betts.
Was torn as to which one to take first, but it worked out well.
They might not be that good this year, but needed to make something happen with only having Dayne and Bettis as my starters.

Let Allen go after the disappointing season I had with him last year.
Just hope I don't end up regretting it.

Cliff
25Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 37741315
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 17:57
Goatlocker, check the league message board when you get a chance. I've sent info on a possible trade. Thanks
26promizecrashed
      ID: 1176517
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 18:11
I'm running another league on CBS for football, we probably should of used the draft room... It has been completely redone... I like it, very similiar to ESPNs and Yahoo's draft rooms, but with some differences...
27GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 149272511
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 18:22
Peter N.
Will get back to you about the offer after I get home and have more time to digest things.

Cliff
28TaRhEElKiD @ sisters
      ID: 8722518
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 19:27
I quit! ;-(

I am so bummed out about this draft so far. haha~ it's fun but it sure isn't working out for me.

Can Pride-What do you want for Toefield?
and
Coldwater Coy-Same for Peterson?

I can't really check my e-mail but have been looking at the league site when possible. Let me know if possible, thanks.

If I can't obtain Toefield I am putting Fred and A-train on the market. Most likely as a package deal unless I find an offer I want for just 1 of them.

Let me know guys.

THK, Minnesota Vikings
29Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 19:40
Promize, we couldn't account for traded picks and the max time between picks was 120 mins.
30 rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 19:49
THK I, I offered you a trade on the CBS site, if you don't get it, send me an e-mail.
31CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 48936413
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 19:50
I'm glad trading up was worth it. Wasn't sure how high up Toefield was getting on people's radar.
32CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 48936413
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 20:44
Sorry THK,

I'm really in no position to deal Toefield right now. My team is aging and I needed to use the draft to pump some young blood into it. I'm hoping Toefield steps right into the Stacey Mack short yardage/goal line role and can get me some points in the event the Garner should go down. I don't see that happening but you can never be too careful.
33rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 22:32
Next 5 owner have been e-mailed:

2.6 Buffalo Bills - "Dan"
2.7 Cleveland Browns - "Perm Dude"
2.8 Tampa Bay Bucs - "ksoze"
2.9 Green Bay Packers - "skinneej"
2.10 Miami Dolphins - "deepsnapper"
34Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 1754479
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 22:50
I'll be around for about 30 minutes if Dan happens to pick. Otherwise, it'll be in the AM.

pd
35CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 48936413
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 22:59
Dan just logged of AIM somehow....don't think he'll be picking tonight.
36TaRhEElKiD @ sisters
      ID: 49759319
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 23:15
You heard Can Pride...Taylor and A-train up for grabs! I would like to package deal them if possible. But if I see a single offer I like I will respond. I am looking to revamp the entire team! New QB and TE already. RB slots are soon to be changed also. Taylor is coming off a great injury free year. He said, "I want to put a stamp of approval on what Fred Taylor can do." He was also quoted saying, "I want to be the most dangerous guy in NFL history." He is looking like good trade material right now, and if there are any potential traders out there...let me know.

THK

37TaRhEElKiD @ sisters
      ID: 49759319
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 23:24
RFS-

Replied...

I am sure you understand my decision and reasons. While the bait you are laying is good...just can't do that at this time considering my current team situation.

THK
38TaRhEElKiD @ sisters
      ID: 49759319
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 23:47
Craig Turley-
E-mail sent...

THK
39Ref
      Donor
      ID: 27016179
      Tue, Aug 05, 2003, 23:49
I think Dan has an alternate email he's using. 4 people have updated their names/emails since I asked them to but I don't think Dan has done so. I could be mistaken, but rfs and I both emailed him. As a matter of fact, I think we emailed both of his addresses.
40rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 00:00
THK, Didn't get a reply from you. My offer was negotiable.

I also IM'd "Dan" and sent him e-mail to multiple addys.

41 Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 03:26
I'm open to offers for my upcoming pick (2.12). Email me if interested... I may consider swapping for a player, OR possibly just swapping my pick for your 3rd round pick this year, and then swapping picks in next year's draft in return.
42ksoze
      Sustainer
      ID: 50643419
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 06:36
RFS,
I'll be offline until later this evening so I sent you a small queue, would you please make my pick for me after PD chooses?
Thanks...
43Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 1754479
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 08:34
Just up, but have to deal with pool guys and furniture deliveries. I'll probably pick around 10:30-11 am.

pd
44Myboyjack
      Leader
      ID: 14826271
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 08:51
Just up??? You live in the freakin' Eastern Time Zone, man! Those late nights are gonna catch up with you. :)
45rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 09:25
ksoze, got yor queue, so I'll post for you right after PD has his cup of coffee.
46promizecrashed
      ID: 3775668
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 10:14
Response #29

Where you get the max time at 12 minutes? I have my draft set for 12 hours between picks. But I do see the problem with all the trades etc.

Oh well, just thought I would pass the info on that they actually fixed somethings this year.
47Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 10:33
promize, I'll look at it but when I was telling rfs about it I only saw 120 mins as the option. I also thought it would be better as the player pool would have been listed for people to choose from.

Please on your selections, put your team name on your pick. I'm pretty sure Dan is Buffalo, but I don't have everyone team memorized and it makes things quicker when I go to add or trade on the site.
48Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 526482422
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 12:30
Will pick in a few minutes. Bad news from the pool guy meant I just got into the office a couple of minutes ago.

pd
49Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 526482422
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 12:48
Sorry to be so long, guys, but I took a shot with NFL Europe star Hatchette. I hope that shoulder is OK!

pd
50deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 12:57
With a name like Hatchette he should have been a DB.
53rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 27652109
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 13:03
I have e-mailed the next 5 picks:

2.9 Green Bay Packers - "skinneej" [due by Thurs, Aug 07, 2003, 12:59
2.10 Miami Dolphins - "deepsnapper"
2.11 Houston Texans - "Brad Taylor"
2.12 Oakland Raiders - "Doug"
2.13 Cincinnati Bengals - "Myboyjack"
55promizecrashed
      ID: 1878612
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 13:12
Guru football league, use this thread instead, so we don't clutter up this league with our discussions.

Rotoguru.com Golf Football League
59skinneej
      Sustainer
      ID: 40625911
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 13:51
CC Rider is on the clock per our trade. I'd be happy to make the pick though if he doesn't want it! ;)
62deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 411148204
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 14:30
PD - I took the liberty to clean this up before we digressed too far. ;-)
63CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 48936413
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 14:52
Sheesh, the guys in the league for less than a week and he is already running or discussion threads into the toilet!
64Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 14:54
Cool, maybe he will win the Toilet Bowl! ;)
65deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 15:16
2.11's up (Brad Taylor?)

I took the liberty of cleaning up the draft thread as best I could. I didn't mess with the trade info though.

so there EH (;-Ţ)
66rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 27652109
      Wed, Aug 06, 2003, 16:07
I called Brad Taylor. He's tending to 3 sick kids and sick wife and Dad stuff. He knows he is up, but might not be able to pick until tonight (or even early tomorrow)

67Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 03:50

I had 11 guys in my queue. Fortunately, all 11 were still available... so I drafted all of them!!!
68rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 10:25
I have e-mailed the next 5:

2.14 Buffalo Bills – “Dan” from NY Giants - "Twarpy" as part of the Gordon trade [due by i, Aug 08, 2003, 08:04]

2.15 Dallas – “Peter N” from Chicago Bears – “CCRIder” as part of the William Green trade from Minnesota Vikings - "TaRhEElKiD" as part of the Ramsey / Carr trade

2.16 Jacks. Jaguars - "CanEHdian Pride"
2.17 Arizona Cardinals - "Craig Turley"
2.18 San Francisco 49ers - "StL Cards"
69CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 48936413
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 10:40
just a small correction.

pick 2.16 was traded to penngray.
70Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 11:05
ROFLMFAO!!!

Nice Pick Dan!!!

As part of the Gordon trade, Dan picks...Gordon!
71Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 37741315
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 11:17
I am having trouble deciding on my pick, but will make a decision shortly.
72Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 526482422
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 11:18
Pick me! Pick me!
73Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 526482422
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 11:24
Damn.
74Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 37741315
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 11:27
Decided on Reche Caldwell, but their were 3 others I was considering. Hopefully at least one will make it back to me.
75Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 11:51
I may or may not have computer access this weekend, but likely at least won't have any tomorrow. I'll be in touch with rfs via phone if need be.
76CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 48936413
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 11:53
Nice pick Peter.

I was considering trading up with Doug to get Caldwell at 1.12. Wasn't sure if I wanted to part with future draft picks though. Hopefully I can nab a young wideout next round.
77CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 48936413
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 11:55
Penngray is on the clock as he obtained pick 2.16 via the Riemersma trade
78Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 13:25
I was suprised nobody even approached me about swapping their 3rd round for my 2nd round pick... I wasn't asking much, just an equal swap next year. I got your IM the other night, CP, but by the time I got back to my computer and saw it you were offline. Happy drafting, everyone!
79CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 48936413
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 13:41
That's what you get when you build up a reputation as being as unapproachable as you are.

;)

I thought you'd be looking for a 1st rounder next year due to the time value of a draft pick. I gotta think less like a finance text book I guess.

:)
80Baldwin
      ID: 111112015
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 13:47
If anyone wants my first round next year and my third round this year for your first next year I'll consider your team and consider it.
81deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 15:46
Pete - check you Hotmail.
82Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 15:47
Baldwin, I'll do it! ;)

Twarpy gave me a suggestion a few days ago about this whole process and it has some merit to it. Before discussing it with the group, I'm going to let rfs play Devils advocate with it and see if the pros outweigh the cons. I have pros and cons about it myself, but if you let others give you their views w/o influencing them, you can see if you're truly on the same page.
83penngray
      Donor
      ID: 453492921
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 16:01
I will swap my 3rd round this year for a 1 round next year? ;)
84Baldwin
      ID: 111112015
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 16:10
Ref

Yeah yeah...that'll move me up a whole one position in next year's draft. 8]
85Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 16:37
Actually Baldwin, it will move you back! ;)
86Ref
      Donor
      ID: 100261311
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 17:49
On the clock:
2.17 Arizona Cardinals - "Craig Turley"
2.18 San Francisco 49ers - "StL Cards"
2.19 Pitts. Steelers - "rockafellerskank"
2.20 St Louis Rams - "Baldwin"
2.21 Oakland – “Doug” from Jacks – “CP” as part of 2002 trade from Baltimore Ravens - "APerfect10" in a 2020 trade involving Manning/ Brunell

Hope it gets to me tonight as I'm going to have very little time this weekend. May have to call rfs with my pick. Unfortunately, my q is only 2 as of now and those guys will likely be gone before it gets to me.
87skinneej
      Sustainer
      ID: 256213122
      Thu, Aug 07, 2003, 21:24
Tarheelkid, I sent you an e-mail to your aol account. Drop me a line back if you get a chance.
88StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 396231715
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 00:52
I guess rfs isn't around because I had emailed him my pick earlier.
89rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 08:01
Sorry for holding things up. My ISP went down late last night.

Jeff Blake has to throw the ball at someone, right?
90Ref
      Donor
      ID: 87787
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 08:12
I'm in a hospital waiting room all morning waiting on a relative--bonus that they have internet access! Won't be getting on the football and baseball sites more than likely (have to look up my CBS ID and don't want it to stay in cookies on a public machine). Anyhow, I should be ready to pick when it's my turn. Will be leaving straight from hospital to the road, so may be a few hours when I'm out of touch but otherwise, I'll be ready when it's my turn.

Nice pick with Mcaddley, he was one of my 4 guys I had in my q. I looked hard at McGahee in the first round but from everything I read on him there is no way he'll play this year. Good pick for next year though.
91Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 08:26
McAddley was #2 in my queue too... it was going to be tough to pass on him, but there's someone else who my team needs more. One more pick and I'm in the clear...
92Ref
      Donor
      ID: 207188
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 09:02
Weird how I can get to this site and TSN, but the other sites are all inaccessible as they are labled as gambling! They are sports site for crying out loud. Tell me how fantasy sports are gambling! Even free Yahoo! Oh well.
93rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 09:55
I have e-mailed the next 5 owners:

1.20 St Louis Rams - "Baldwin" [due by Sat, Aug 09, 2003, 08:00
1.21 Baltimore Ravens - "APerfect10"
1.22 Indianapolis Colts - "Ref"
1.23 Dallas Cowboys - "Peter N"
1.24 Seattle Seahawks - "Promize"
94StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 133252814
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 10:22
I thought about McAddley myself, but starting him in the playoffs last year (over Steve Smith) cost me a win. Hope you like dropped TD passes ;-)
95APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 10:35
You should've emailed round 2 owners, not 1. I for one do not have a pick this round...
96Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 12:39
lol... I have the 1.21 pick and am ready for it...
97Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 12:40
oops... it's contagious... I mean 2.21
98Baldwin
      ID: 111112015
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 12:59
There you go Doug. 2.20 is picked.
99deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 13:24
Jeremy Shockey is quoted in the Daily News of New York magazine as calling Dallas Cowboys coach Bill Parcells a "homo"?

Is the guy stupid or what? I thinks there's probably a few people in NYC that still like Bill. Even if he is the Cowboys's coach. Shockey knocks Parcells in magazine article

I'm posting this over in the football forum, but I thought I'd CC it over here too.
100StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 461351716
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 14:03
Looks like I might have to hire some counselors for my players. Totally unacceptable behavior ;)
101Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 31649212
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 15:00
I left the house just before you posted Baldwin and just got back online... I needed Jeff Garcia insurance what with that bulging disk in his back, so I picked up Rattay.

There were a couple other guys available who it was tough to pass on, but I figured I like my team pretty well as-is so it was better to play it safe and avoid disaster. Hopefully one of those other guys will fall to me at my next pick (3.12).

If anyone else feels so inclined to explain their picks, I'm always curious to hear what other managers are thinking. Personally I'm not that into the whole "hold your cards close to your chest" thing, but I understand if others are.
102deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 15:25
I think presenting the logic behind why a selection is made is great, but I agree with Ref & rfs that we shouldn't discuss players that haven't been selected yet so as not to influence someone else's selection in the future. The logic might be better discussed by IM or email during the draft IMO.

My problem would be explaing why I picked someone w/o stating why I didn't pick another player in their stead.

biliruben, Baldwin, nerveclinic, & madman did a critique of the Political gurupie's 2003 baseball draft. bili ranked everyone & predicted the final standings. It was very interesting to me. Unfortunately (for me), billi's pretty accurate also.

Political Gurupie 2003 baseball draft review
103CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 48936413
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 15:38
I just went through a very key decision process over whether to make a move or not too. I'm unable to comment on it now, but at the end of the draft I will definately rationlize my decision for anyone interested in getting a glimpse into the methods to my madness.

:)
104StLCards
      Sustainer
      ID: 461351716
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 15:59
Doug - My second round pick of Beuerlein was similar to yours. While no bulging disk for Plummer, injuries are inevitable especially at QB. I felt better safe than sorry about having Plummer's backup, at the expense of who I really would have selected.
105TaRhEElKiD @ sisters
      ID: 49759319
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 16:08
Whatever team is the Green Bay Packers...I accept your offer about our 3rd round picks. Haha! I have limited and SLOOOW access to the computer.

Trade was:

My 3rd round pick for GB's 3rd round pick and his 5th round pick.

THK
106TaRhEElKiD @ sisters
      ID: 49759319
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 16:19
Craig Turley-
Could you please respond to my mail in some way, haha. Not sure if you just aren't getting it, or don't want to answer...

Twarpy-
Sent a league message to you.

Skinneej-You are GB...I accepted, haha. 2nd time you have pulled a trade like this...helps both, thanks.

THK
107skinneej
      Sustainer
      ID: 40625911
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 16:27
Thanks, TarheelKid. So I will pick at your 3.4 spot and you will pick at 3.9 and have the rights to 5.9. Ref, sorry to keep adding work for you, but I have to improve my positions when I can. ;)
108Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 16:52
THK - msg sent.
109Ref
      Donor
      ID: 27016179
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 23:06
I just managed to get a minute to get online here on the road. I'm currently getting 19K connection and is UNGODLY slow. I saw the trade, but rfs may need to do it for me. I'll see in a few how long it will take me to get on the site for my pick. The pick I was going to make has huge questions about him now, so now I gotta figure out if I'm still going to get him or pass on him.
110Ref
      Donor
      ID: 27016179
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 23:48
ok, I have picked.

Trade approved. THK, I think you are Minn., but if I'm wrong, I'll fix it later. Again, please keep your team name with your gurupie name on anything like this. I'll try and get caught up with draft picks tonight, but may not be able to get caught up again until Sunday sometime.
111Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 37741315
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 23:54
Trade Alert

Dallas Cowboys trade the rights to pick 2.23 to the Miami Dolphins for RB Jamel White
112deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 23:56
Miami Dolphins confirm the trade of White for Dallas' 2.23 draft pick.
113Ref
      Donor
      ID: 27016179
      Sat, Aug 09, 2003, 00:04
Both trades have been approved. Proceed.
114deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sat, Aug 09, 2003, 00:05
Holding selection pending Commish trade approval.
115deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sat, Aug 09, 2003, 00:05
oops!
116Baldwin
      ID: 111112015
      Sat, Aug 09, 2003, 01:12
There goes my Portis insurance.
117Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Sat, Aug 09, 2003, 03:19
Just a "draft speed" update... things did pick up a bit... 4 days for round 2 compared to 5.5 days for round 1. Still only averaging 6 picks a day, but at least it's progress. At the new and improved rate we'll be done by August 21st (3 more rounds at 4 days per round = 12 days).
118CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 48936413
      Sat, Aug 09, 2003, 10:15
I'll be gone most of the day but I sent rfs a short queue. I should be able to get to a computer occasionally through out the day so if I see my queue drying up I'll try and send a new one.
119rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Sat, Aug 09, 2003, 10:28
CP - got your queue

Next 5 picks have been e-mails to start round 3.

Ref made the suggestion to cut down time between picks (12 hours excluding late night time?). I may do so beginning Monday morning at 8A EST?

120Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Sat, Aug 09, 2003, 12:14
It's a possibility... although, every pick in Round 2 was already made within a 12 hour window anyway, so I don't know that it will speed things up at all. If anything, it may just prevent things from slowing down. If the clock expires, then the draft proceeds and that person can jump in at anytime with their pick, right? Just like if they pick someone who's already on a team...
121Baldwin
      ID: 111112015
      Sat, Aug 09, 2003, 12:22
Yeah, I don't see any reason a person can't stick around or leave a short queue with someone...even with someone who is not in the league if they didn't want to give away their preferences. It's just disgusting holding people up on weekends and evenings when by rights we should really be rolling.
122skinneej
      Sustainer
      ID: 256213122
      Sat, Aug 09, 2003, 20:46
Well, I'm ready to pick after Goatlocker. Anyone want to move up for pick 3.4 or 3.15? There's not much on my board right now as a couple guys I was considering got taken in the last few picks of the 2nd round. I'm willing to part with just about anyone for the right deal.
123Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 03:06
OK, I stand corrected... so maybe we SHOULD move to 12 hour time limit lol... trying to prove Ref's point Goat? =-)
124GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 4073619
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 11:12
Not trying to prove anything, having computer problems.

Cliff
125CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 48936413
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 11:19
Can I make a suggestion?

Now that we are getting into the slim rounds there have to be players that people are targeting as their "sleepers". There aren't too many people that are going to fall that everyone is really gun ho about. So here is my suggestion.

Email RFS ONE player that you are interested in picking up this round. I guarantee it will speed things up a great deal, though some will be taken, probably close to half won't and will move things along more quickly.
126Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 11:48
I second that motion
127skinneej
      Sustainer
      ID: 40625911
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 12:54
Goat you weren't supposed to take him. I had my post typed since last night with Northcutt ready to go. I took a kicker before you and Pennygray because I expected both of you to be taking one. He doesn't have one and yours may not even make the team so I figured it was a good bet Northcutt would be around after your picks. Now I have to hope White will be the better receiver, but I had him downgraded with Kordell throwing to him. Well, one more pick to go for me later this round so hope things roll along so I can make it today.
128Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 1754479
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 12:59
That's right, put him back.
129cEHp @ school
      ID: 407421011
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 13:29
Don't count on it....apparantly Dan will be AWOL til 3:00. He's at work and left no queue. Not even ONE player.
130Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 17:50
Actually, I was thinking 12 hour max, but like 8 hour better with the caveat that no one's time expires during the sleeping hours. So if we use ET and said hours between say 9am and 10pm, with a time limit of 8 hours fromt he time of last pick (time suspended during the "dark" hours though anyone can pick during this time). I'm used to 2 hour limits, but we'd only go to that in a near emergency. This way anyone that doesn't have access either during the day or during night will still have a chance. To be honest, since we're not forfeiting picks and those skipped can pick at any time, even a shorter time limit will work as the later rounds won't matter nearly as much. It's even harder to leave a q with so many "no-names" in the pool.
131Baldwin
      ID: 111112015
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 18:05
Nice commishing there, catching the Jerivicious pick so soon after it was made. You got to also since Coyote could have easily not paid attention for a long long time after picking.
132Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 386242821
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 18:15
I assume Dan didn't leave a queue, just like he didn't leave one earlier for the Chatroom draft.
133rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 18:17
I have no pick for Dan.
134rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 18:19
Can a moderator please clean up posts 69,70,71 in the draft thread to keep confusion to a minimum. Thanks.

rfs
135deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 411148204
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 20:12
I saw 72 posts on the draft thread and thought, wow - I'm up! but alas, it's not true. I cleaned up while I was here. ;-)
136rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 461124288
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 20:51
Next 5 owners e-mailed
137Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 1754479
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 21:19
Took Mungro. Probably earlier than I would have liked, but I took two WR in the first two picks.

pd
138Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 33753910
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 22:40
OT: Goatlocker, I sent you a trade offer in the Tag Team N.L. League. Take a look and let me know what you think. Thanks
139TaRhEElKiD @ cousins
      ID: 227161021
      Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 22:55
Craig-Please give me some sort of answer to the mail I sent a week ago!!!

RFS-queue sent since I am up in 2 picks.

Coldwater Coyotes-Adrain Peterson...??? What do you want...please contact me through the league boards. Thanks

THK
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