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Subject: Gurupie 24 draft comment/dicussions V3.0
Posted by: rockafellerskank
- Leader [461124288] Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 23:00
Last thread was a bit long. Here we go with a new one.
Hopefully we will move into round 4 by Tuesday? |
| 1 | Doug
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Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 23:11
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So, uh... skinneej... bad news my friend... wish you had that 2.04 pick back, eh?
Houston RB James Allen retires
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| 2 | Doug
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Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 23:12
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There's an extra space in the above link that I'm unable to remove (shows up as "%20" in the URL string)... I think it's 'cus I'm on a Mac... I always have trouble posting links (I've tried to repair it, we'll see - ds).
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| 3 | skinneej
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Sun, Aug 10, 2003, 23:34
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Well, that figures. Allen practices with the first team since training camp opens and looks to be the starter (even though Mack was brought in in the offseason to carry the load), then decides his heart is not in it? And now he's an aspiring rap artist to boot?? What a joke. If I lived in Texas I might have to pay him a visit and convince him otherwise. I mean, at least let me trade the bum first. I was kiddingly talking about trading him earlier tonight with another manager, but if I had worked out a deal I bet someone would be pissed. Well, he's definitely available now!
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| 4 | Doug
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Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 03:49
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I wish I had the time to make up a mock retirement and/or injury article for some combination Betts/Ferguson/Dawson/White (skinneej's other draftees) and upload it to my website with another link posted like the one above... hoping that the different URL wouldn't be noticed right away...
*sigh*... it's a sad day when you get too busy for pranks. I suddenly feel old.
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| 5 | deepsnapper
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ID: 17103420
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 10:52
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Brad Taylor's up
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| 6 | deepsnapper
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ID: 17103420
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 12:51
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and the Commish has CBS current. gracias :-)
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| 7 | rockafellerskank
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ID: 27652109
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 12:54
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I've sent Taylor and e-mail. Will call him if he doesn't pick by Noon PST.
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| 8 | Ref
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Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 14:06
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yeah, sorry, I was at the hospital all day yesterday and work is killing me today, but was able to get the CBS site current. I'll check in from time to time to help make sure it stays as current as possible. Gonna take lunch in a few so should be in my office for a few anyhow.
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| 9 | rockafellerskank
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ID: 27652109
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 14:08
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Just off the phone with Taylor. he should be picking soon.
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| 10 | deepsnapper
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Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 15:49
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Ref - No apology needed or expected. It was a sincere compliment. You're the bomb on keeping everything current. Heck, even God took off on the 7th day.
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| 11 | Ref
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ID: 100261311
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 16:04
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Thanks deepsnapper. Just feel the need to keep it current. Appreciate the kind words.
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| 12 | Ref
Donor
ID: 100261311
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 16:56
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Since we are not yet to even the midway point of the draft, I have consulted with a couple of the league members and with the delay at this pick am going to make an executive decision.
AFTER the next pick or skipped pick (Turley currently on the clock), there will begin a 6 hour time limit with the caveat that time will be suspended between the hours of 12 am (midnight) and 9 am ET. During that time picks can still be made as normal but a person cannot be skipped during that time. If a pick is made at 12:01 am it will be treated as picked at 9:00 am and the new deadline will be 3:00 pm. If a pick was set to expire at 12:01 am, it will now expire at 9:01 am. Pretty easy I think. With the latter scenario a pick can still go 15 hrs before being skipped, but that's still better than 24 hrs and for most of the group, that will not be a factor.
At this stage in the draft, one spot is really unlikely to make a whole lot of difference, though it may encourage owners to check in more often and speed up the draft even more.
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| 13 | Ref
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ID: 100261311
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 18:25
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Btw, it is Taylor and not Turley who is on the clock. For some reason I always get them confused.
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| 14 | CCRider @ Work
ID: 180342915
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 18:55
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I heard from Brad Taylor - he is reviewing O.J. Simpson's potential for this year and should have his pick made shortly.
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| 15 | APerfect10
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ID: 535572315
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 19:18
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Great decision to reduce the clock. I havent made a pick in a week!
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| 16 | rockafellerskank
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ID: 27652109
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 19:25
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Next 5 owners have been e-mailed:
3.13 Cincinnati Bengals - "Myboyjack" [due by Tues, Aug 12, 2003, 10:16]
3.14 NY Giants - "Twarpy"
3.15 Greenbay – “skinneej” from Minnesota Vikings - "TaRhEElKiD" as part of the Billy Miller Trade
3.16 Jacks. Jaguars - "CanEHdian Pride"
3.17 Arizona Cardinals - "Craig Turley"
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| 17 | CanEHdian Pride
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ID: 48936413
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 19:38
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I should be by my computer for the next 24 hours. If anyone wants to send my a single player queue I will be able to put the pick in when they are up.
Remember even ONE player will help speed things up without divulging any future strategy.
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| 18 | CanEHdian Pride
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Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 19:40
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Actually it probably will only be for about the next 15-20 hours. I guess I got a little carried away.
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| 19 | rockafellerskank
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ID: 27652109
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 19:46
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CP, I still have your queue from a few days ago. Want me to delete it?
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| 20 | CanEHdian Pride
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Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 19:50
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nope, still current. Unless there is a run at a current position (I think you know which one this is) then you can pick if you see that I'm up before I do.
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| 21 | Ref
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ID: 539581218
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 20:11
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I have twarpy's and CPs revised next pick. If his new pick is gone, then he wants to go back to the q he sent rfs earlier.
Btw, damn you Doug! I will be really surprised if there is anyone left that I've even heard of by the time it gets to me again!
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| 22 | Doug
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ID: 31649212
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 20:19
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Glad to be of service, Ref! ;-)
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| 23 | skinneej
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ID: 256213122
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 21:06
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Peter N, did you get my e-mail earlier? If you replied, it was after I left work so I did not see it. Let me know if the offer I mentioned is agreeable, or I will go ahead and make my selection.
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| 24 | Peter N.
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ID: 33753910
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 21:13
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I just replied to it. Yes, I would like to make the trade.
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| 25 | skinneej
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ID: 256213122
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 21:21
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OK, Pete so I will swap 3rd round picks with you (3.15 for 3.23) and I will get your 4th round pick (4.23). In order to complete this trade, I need rfs or ref to approve me dropping James Allen. I cannot drop him as I need commish approval. I'll wait for approval before we go ahead with this.
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| 26 | Ref
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ID: 539581218
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 21:25
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I haven't responded because I want to speak with rfs first. It is my opinion that we can NOT drop a player whatsoever during the draft. It would in effect give you an extra selection. I cannot approve this as the agreement now states, but let me shoot it by rfs just to make sure him and I are on the same page.
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| 27 | rockafellerskank
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ID: 461124288
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 21:25
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I don't think this will work. You can't drop players once the draft starts starts. You can still do it, but James Allen stays on yor roster until the draft is over at which time you can cut him. If you go through with this deal, you will venetually end up witha "full roster" and forfeit your last draft pick as it would out you over limit. You can trade your 3rd and llen for Peter N's 3rd & 4th is you wish.
Perhaps Ref can chime in and see if he agrees or perhaps I am misunderstanding?
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| 28 | rockafellerskank
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ID: 461124288
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 21:26
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LOL. I guess that settles that!
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| 29 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 21:29
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WOW! Ignore that email rfs! ;)
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| 30 | Peter N.
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Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 21:56
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skinneej, I assume the deal is off then. I am not interested in trading for James Allen.
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| 31 | skinneej
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ID: 256213122
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 22:36
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Guys, I don't agree with this ruling. There is nothing in the rules that states you cannot drop a player in the draft and make an "extra" selection. Ref, you say, " It is my opinion that we can NOT drop a player whatsoever during the draft. It would in effect give you an extra selection." Where does it say in the rules that I cannot make an "extra" selection? I could theoretically have traded all my players and made 14 picks in this draft. I could also make a selection, then trade that player away for another pick later in the draft. That's no different than trading picks, though. The only rule is that you cannot have more than 14 players on your team at any given time.
I cannot approve this as the agreement now states... Again, it does not state anything about dropping a player in the draft. Also, Pete is not going to trade for Allen because then he'd forfeit his 5th round pick. I could however trade Allen to a team that only has 4 picks in this draft and will not have a full team after the draft is over (like Baltimore). He would dump him anyway after the draft and I could make the trade with Pete. That seems silly to do, but after losing my 2nd round pick, I'm looking for a creative way to make my team as competitive as possible within the rules. Isn't that part of what this league is about?
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| 32 | rockafellerskank
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ID: 461124288
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 22:51
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skinneej:
I don't think there is a "rule" about it because it never occured to Ref and I that someone would draft a player and cut him. hat doesn't mean that we don't have to decide abou 'intent' now that the issus is surfaced. There is no rule about many hings, but that dosnt mean that in the absence of a rule, it is legal. There are no add/drops during this period at all. There are only trades. If you can trade James Allen you may do so. It has clearly been stated that the supplemental draft is 5 rounds (not more/not less), so you cannoy trade all 14 of your players and draft 14 rounds. We talked about the fact that anyone that ends up short a player doesn't get a "6th round pick" but must wait until the FA/WW period to fill out his roster. The closest I can find is post 17. Feel free to review all the other threads and if Ref or I posted anything contrary, please do bring it up. Otherwise, we agree that there are no add/drops during the draft. only draft picks and trades. Another example s that the draft order from day 1 denotes certain plays have"no pick" in the 5th round because they obtain their full comliment of players before round 5 an were not entitle to obtain 15+ and cut them later.
Sorry.
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| 33 | rockafellerskank
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ID: 461124288
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 22:52
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I'll be gone for the night, Ref might chip in more if he is around.
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| 34 | skinneej
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ID: 256213122
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 23:24
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RFS, I agree with the point about drafting more than 14 players or ending up with less than 14, besides all that was settled before the draft. If you say No add/drops during the draft then I guess that is your right to make up rules when there is an absence of one. I could suggest a league vote on the matter, but with prize money on the line I'd bet that not many would want to agree to it and thus help my team out. ;)
If Baltimore agreed, I could trade Allen to him for absolutely nothing. Hey, I've basically done it twice in this draft so that shouldn't be a problem. I still contend that I could have traded every single player on my team before the draft, declared no keepers and ended up with 14 draft picks from my subsequent trades. There are only 5 rounds, but I could theoretically draft and trade all day making as many picks as doesn't violate the max roster rule.
Well, I could be a butt and wait until 9 am to draft (especially since I have an early 7am meeting tomorrow and need to get to bed) but I'll pick in a few minutes. Seems as if I'm not going to win the argument anyway.
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| 35 | CanEHdian Pride
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ID: 48936413
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 23:32
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skinneej,
Do you have AIM?
If so add me to your buddy list and drop me a line.
CanEHdian Pride.
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| 36 | CanEHdian Pride
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ID: 48936413
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 23:40
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Oh well, I thought we could have worked some sort of deal out but it looks like you've made your pick. The closer I looked at it, my initial thought wouldn't have worked.
Sorry bra.
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| 37 | skinneej
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ID: 256213122
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 23:41
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CeHP, heading off to sleep now. I went ahead and made a pick, but if you want e-mail me and I'll take a look at it sometime tomorrow morning.
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| 38 | Ref
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Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 23:44
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skineej, as I see it, you drafted allen and now you want to drop him. What if Patten has a year ending injury and now I want another pick so I drop him and trade for another pick. Should that be legal? In essence, I am affording myself the opportunity to make up for a hindsight bad pick. Like rfs, said, you can trade him or how many players you want, but you can not drop, you can not add if you don't hit 14 and you may not go over 14 during the draft.
Hope this makes sense and seems fair to all, but this was discussed before the draft in that post that rfs referenced. Just not as concise perhaps.
If you'd like to exercise your right to call for a league vote, you may certainly do so, but it could hurt you in that you need 14 of the 20 remaining managers (rfs, myself, you and Peter N will not be voting) and the draft clock would not stop and owners have up to 48 hrs per rule to vote or until enough votes are cast one way or the other to have a decision. Let me know what you'd like to do and I will set up the vote.
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| 39 | Doug
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Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 23:45
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This is a rather unusual situation, and FWIW personally I agree with RFS and Ref's interpretation of the rules. The same would hold true if a player you drafted went down with a season-ending injury last weekend... he's still on your roster until the draft completes. Otherwise, hypothetically, a player could be drafted... dropped (for whatever reason), and then drafted a second time by some other team later on in the draft. Unlikely, but possible... and that doesn't seem right or in the spirit of the rules IMHO.
But I also think that given the extenuating circumstances that if some team that has an "extra" space on their roster due to having less draft picks than they would need to create a full squad (such as Baltimore... I don't know if there are others in this position as well)... then it would be cool if they would help out skinneej in this situation as a goodwill gesture (unless of course you were still thinking of trading for picks yourself). Unfortunately, I am not in a position to do so, as I need my 2 remaining picks in order to fill out my squad.
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| 40 | Ref
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ID: 539581218
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 23:46
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Well, post 38 is moot now, but I'll leave it to remind the league members that in this game we do ahve an arbitration process due to the nature of this game.
FWIW, that would have been my pick had he fallen to me, skineej :(. Maybe I won't be selecting a TE next afterall. Back to the drawing board.
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| 41 | CanEHdian Pride
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ID: 48936413
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 23:50
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Doug...that is what I was looking at but I wasn't sure what the proper consideration to exchange in return for the "bail out" or whether the rest of the league would be cool with it.
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| 42 | Ref
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ID: 539581218
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 23:58
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Obviously Mitchell is a WR, was still thinking about Doug's pick.
Turley is on the clock. His exclusive pick will expire at 2:41 pm ET on Tuesday. He will, in essence, have 15 hours to select before being skipped.
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| 43 | APerfect10
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ID: 535572315
Mon, Aug 11, 2003, 23:58
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ditto post 40. I wanted to select him but after tonights game, I said there was no way I'd get him. What do you know, less than an hour after the game ends he's drafted! My 2 man queue is now gone :(
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| 44 | StLCards
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ID: 28758920
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 02:59
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rfs - sorry about the queue I sent you as I no longer want that player. I'll have to pick myself when it's my turn as I need to look some more and it's too late to think right now. thanks.
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| 45 | Baldwin
ID: 111112015
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 03:38
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Amazing how many of my targets are still getting hit.
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| 46 | Doug
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ID: 2730280
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 04:32
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Don't worry Baldwin, I think Bon Jovi is still available. Oops! We aren't supposed to discuss undrafted players... sorry about that! ;-)
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| 47 | rockafellerskank
Leader
ID: 461124288
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 09:39
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Next 5 picks have bene e-mailed:
3.17 Arizona Cardinals - "Craig Turley" [due by Tues, Aug 11, 2003, 14:41]
3.18 San Francisco 49ers - "StL Cards"
3.19 Pitts. Steelers - "rockafellerskank"
3.20 St Louis Rams - "Baldwin"
3.21 Baltimore Ravens - "APerfect10"
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| 48 | TaRhEElKiD @ sisters
ID: 49759319
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 10:53
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I sure wish Craig Turley would answer my e-mails...I wonder if he is reading these threads?
Coldwater, hit me with am message on CBS about Peterson please...
THK
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| 49 | TaRhEElKiD @ sisters
ID: 49759319
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 11:17
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Doug-
Message sent
THK
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| 50 | StLCards
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ID: 461351716
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 12:28
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I don't even know if Brien is the starter but I didn't want to hold things up and no time to research any more. Just trying to fill an early bye week.
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| 51 | rockafellerskank
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ID: 27652109
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 12:48
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Moving right along....
I know about the rookie in Philly, but pickings at TE are slim. I'm just hoping to stumble into 5-6 TDs, 500 yards from Chad Lewis for the year.
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| 52 | Twarpy
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ID: 386242821
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 13:02
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STLCards, drop me an email, or if you have AIM, add me about some baseball talks.
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| 53 | Baldwin
ID: 111112015
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 13:41
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How I agonized over T.J.Smith, John Hall, Boldin, Chad Lewis and Josh Brown over the last 12 hours. It is just too wierd that everyone's priorty list is still tracking that closely together this late in such a deep draft. I thot at least one of those guys would slip a round. I figured it would be Brown.
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| 54 | StLCards
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Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 13:49
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Twarpy, I'm off to a meeting, but I'll email you when I get back. (don't have AIM at work).
Josh Brown was my pick unitl I realized I would have two kickers with a week 4 bye. Had to rethink at that point.
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| 55 | Ref
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Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 14:09
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My q is empty and work is calling. I have 2 players actually, but they are both emergency picks. This might be that emergency...
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| 56 | StLCards
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ID: 461351716
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 14:21
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Twarpy, I sent my reply. Meeting was half an hour later than I thought. I'll check back in a couple of hours.
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| 57 | Baldwin
ID: 111112015
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 14:23
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Maybe Hollings has only played 4 college games but he's electric by all accounts and I just don't see Mack being a roadblock. Any coach would move Mack to fullback blocking for Hollings' as soon as Hollings' health permits I am wagering.
Did I pick him too soon?
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| 58 | Peter N.
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Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 14:41
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Most of you have probably never heard of my next pick.
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| 59 | Baldwin
ID: 111112015
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 14:44
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Fantastic pace ever since 3.8 guys. 8]
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| 60 | Ref
Donor
ID: 100261311
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 15:04
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7 picks in less than 3 hours so far today.
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| 61 | CCRider @ Work
ID: 180342915
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 15:12
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Peter N - actually I was hoping that your pick would continue to slide down the board as an unknown...figured I'd be able to grab him later.
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| 62 | rockafellerskank
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ID: 461124288
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 15:13
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LOL. I know that Doueg knoew yor guy, Peter N.
FWIW, you may want to review tha last few posts in this thread.
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| 63 | Ref
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Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 15:50
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8 picks in 6 hours. I menat 5 in that last one. BUTT to the next round.
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| 64 | Twarpy
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Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 15:53
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Did you two forget how to speak English at the same time?:)
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| 65 | deepsnapper
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ID: 17103420
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 16:01
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Twarpy - I'd fix them, but they wouldn't be funny anymore. (;-Ž)
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| 66 | Doug
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ID: 31649212
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 16:09
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Yeah... nice pickup Peter N... though I chose Desmond Clark ahead of Teyo for exactly that reason (Teyo is not currently eligible at TE, though he may become so soon...)
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| 67 | Ref
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Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 16:28
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LOL deep!
Some of you have spent a great deal more time researching than I've been able to and for that my job repeating is going to be even tougher. Just look at the top teams from last year--even the playoff teams where you could draw a name out of the hat for the game's champion. Add to that the great drafts and there may be 18 teams that have a real chance to win it from the get-go.
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| 68 | deepsnapper
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Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 16:41
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Pete - you're on deck in our email draft. He'll probably time-out again before Big Brother comes on though. :-)
Ref - Peter N told me who he was drafting and I still didn't know who the heck he was.
So much for that sleeper kicker in Seattle.....I guess I'll have to pick on someone else's backup RB again. muuuhhhaaaaaaaa
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| 69 | StLCards
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ID: 461351716
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 16:49
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I saw Teyo in a preseason game. Looked very good. Huge and fast with good hands too. Nice pick.
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| 70 | Ref
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Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 16:50
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deep, several picks have been made and I am like...WHO?!?! CP and Twarpy both gave me their q just in case and for both of those guys I'm like...and where did you hear of this guy? ;)
I thought I'd done a decent job, but some of you guys are amazing finding these guys in the rough. Now only time will tell if these are actual diamonds or not.
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| 71 | StLCards
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ID: 461351716
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 16:56
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Well Ref, even diamonds come from coal right? Too bad superman is not around to speed up the process :)
Twarpy, I sent you a compromise trade offer in Guru20.
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| 72 | rockafellerskank
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ID: 27652109
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 17:35
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Next 5 owners have been e-mailed. I have a queue for Goatlocker, BTW.
4.1 Atlanta Falcons - "Action Figures" [due by Wed, Aug 12, 2003, 09:43]
4.2 Kansas City Chiefs - "penngray"
4.3 San Diego Chargers - "goatlocker"
4.4 Chicago Bears - "CCRider"
4.5 Denver Broncos - "coldwater Coyotes"
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| 73 | Doug
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ID: 31649212
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 17:47
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On the subject of this league being deep, CP and were chatting last night and we thought it would be cool if we named the "Fantasy Bowl" each year after the last player taken in our fantasy draft as a tribute to how deep this league is. So, for example, last year's would have been the "Boo Williams Fantasy Bowl". It would be kinda cool for history's sake:
Fantasy Bowl Winners
2002 - Ref / Indianapolis Colts - "Boo Williams Fantasy Bowl"
2003 - Doug / Oakland Raiders - "Bon Jovi Fantasy Bowl"
2004 - ... etc.
Of course the names are subject to change... Bon Jovi would be replaced with the last pick in our draft... and my name would be replaced with... oh, no... nevermind, I got that part right. =-)
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| 74 | Peter N.
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Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 17:47
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Thanks for the kudos on Teyo. You have to like him being compared to Shockey......AS long as he isn't calling people "homos" ;-)
I tried to trade up to 3.15 and go ahead and take him because I saw that a couple of people needed help at TE and got nervous. Needless to say, I am happy that he made it to me. Oubviously, he holds more value being a TE and after reading CBS' response to rfs regarding position eligibility, I think he will be changed to tight end. At this point in the draft when their really is no "safe" pick, I am trying to hit a home run.
StLCards, check the league message board in G20 when you get a chance.
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| 75 | Doug
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ID: 31649212
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 17:50
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Also, it's sort of an honor for the guy with best record last year to be able to name the following year's Fantasy Bowl via the final pick (unless he trades it away).
By the way, am I being presumptuous in my use of the "he" pronoun? Do we have any female owners in this league?
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| 76 | rockafellerskank
Leader
ID: 27652109
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 17:50
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Speaking of fantasy championships, It just occured to me that Ref and I have not posted payouts for this year. I promise to get that done in next 24-48 hours. Sorry guys!
...Or jumping off on Doug's idea, I think whoever finishes last should be forced to post until next football season as "Boo Williams" [insert name of last draft pick here]
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| 77 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 21:02
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Well Phillipa (CP) is the only female I know of here.
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| 78 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 21:08
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Anyone talked to Action Figures besides that email? He loses exclusive rights to the next pick in about 30 mins or so.
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| 79 | rockafellerskank
Leader
ID: 461124288
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 21:57
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FYI-
The current schedule on the site will be edited. So far we just have what CBS stuck us with. Just like last year, we will have X games v division rivals, Y games v conference foes and Z games inter-conference. I will even incorporate strength of schedule based on last years finishes.
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| 80 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Aug 12, 2003, 22:09
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penngray has picked since atl's time has elapsed. 4.03 is up but the 4.01 pick can be made at any time.
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| 81 | deepsnapper
Sustainer
ID: 17103420
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 09:43
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rfs's certainly moved things along this AM. I wonder what PD's going to pull out of his hat with 4.07? ;-)
FWIW - It's 67* this morning in Dallas. Incredible.
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| 82 | CanEHdian Pride
Donor
ID: 48936413
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 09:52
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skinneej,
I sent you a trade offer. Lemme know if it is doable.
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| 83 | Perm Dude
Leader
ID: 526482422
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 10:36
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Not much left in my sleeper bag, that's for sure. Let me pull out these crumpled pages from the garbage bin and see if there's anything good on them...
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| 84 | CanEHdian Pride
Donor
ID: 48936413
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 11:05
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soze, before you pick i have a trade offer.
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| 85 | CanEHdian Pride
Donor
ID: 48936413
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 11:07
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Keyzer,
I can't find you email but i'm in a rush.
If you want to swap picks this round, i will trade you my 3rd rounder in 3004.
If you agree, Ref can post my pick from the top of my queue.
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| 86 | CanEHdian Pride
Donor
ID: 48936413
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 11:11
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I want your 5th rounder next year too....
:)
2003 4th and 2004 5th for my 2003 4th and 2004 3rd.
:)
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| 87 | ksoze
Sustainer
ID: 50643419
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 11:32
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Why the hell would I want to trade a pick this year for a pick I can't use this millenium?
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| 88 | deepsnapper
Sustainer
ID: 17103420
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 11:53
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EH has tried to make a trade only Stephen Hawking would take If he could pass though a black hole. (;-Ž)
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| 89 | Perm Dude
Leader
ID: 526482422
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 11:56
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Maybe there is some sort of conversion needed? 1 AT (American trade) = .75 CT (Canadian trade)?
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| 90 | rockafellerskank
Leader
ID: 27652109
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 12:01
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Hey guys, I'm not going to be around to run the league past 2098 at the latest! Someone else will have to follow up with you on this trade. :)
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| 91 | deepsnapper
Sustainer
ID: 17103420
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 12:03
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I don't know, but between EH's trades and Hank with all his >>>>> in his baseball thread, I'm getting a migraine. ;-)
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| 92 | ksoze
Sustainer
ID: 50643419
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 12:03
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Alright, here's the trade confirmation:
Tampa/ksoze trades their 2003 4th round pick and 2004 5th round pick
to
Jacksonville/CanEHdian Pride for their 2003 4th round pick and 2004 3rd round pick.
And EH promises to never make me try to read that 19 page term paper he finished the other day.
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| 93 | rockafellerskank
Leader
ID: 27652109
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 12:18
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Trade approved. Proceed.
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| 94 | Ref
Donor
ID: 100261311
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 12:21
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I just knew someone would start trading next year's draft picks. CP aimed me of this possibility earlier today so gimme a couple mins so I can make this official.
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| 95 | deepsnapper
Sustainer
ID: 17103420
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 12:28
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Here's a blast from the past - Adrian!
And it was supposedly "good" this morning....hmmmm. (don't bother looking though) (;-Ž)
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| 96 | Ref
Donor
ID: 100261311
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 12:30
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So many trades have gone that I'm a little confused, but I think the next pick was traded to Chicago/CC Rider unless I missed where he went and traded it again. So 4.09 is up regardless (unless 4.01 checks in).
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| 97 | skinneej
Sustainer
ID: 40625911
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 12:44
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Yep, CC Rider has pick 4.9. Sorry, EH but both my 4th and 5th round picks were traded away. I have nothing left to trade (except a retired bum) and I'm done for the draft.
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| 98 | rockafellerskank
Leader
ID: 27652109
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 13:07
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OK, Here are the next 5 picks + AF that i just e-mailed:
4.1 Atlanta Falcons - "Action Figures" - SKIPPED CAN PICK AS SOON AS HE LOGS IN
4.9 CCRider/Chicago from Green Bay Packers - "skinneej" in a trade [due by Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 18:26] ON THE CLOCK
4.10 Miami Dolphins - "deepsnapper"
4.11 Houston Texans - "Brad Taylor"
4.12 Oakland Raiders - "Doug"
4.13 Cincinnati Bengals - "Myboyjack"
I think i got it right......
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| 99 | deepsnapper
Sustainer
ID: 17103420
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 13:47
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rfs - sent you a queue as I'm out the door to Dr. for a couple hrs.
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| 100 | Ref
Donor
ID: 100261311
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 15:00
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2003 Payout has 21 paid:
Playoff winner: $100
Playoff runner-up $50
Playoff 3rd place $25
Playoff 4th place $10
Regular Season Best Record $10
Playoff Team $15 each(8 teams=$120)
Total of $315 is distributed in full.
You must make the playoffs to win a prize. Baldwin, PD and penngary have decided not to participate in the 2003 OPTIONAL pool. If any of these three qualify, the prizes will be reallocated by the commissioners simillarly to how it has been done in the past.
There was $15 less this year and I've taken it off the overall best record (out of my pocket ;)).
This is copied from our league's constition located in help rules on the site.
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| 101 | Baldwin
ID: 111112015
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 15:15
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If I am not mistaken Action Figure and CCRider are where the political board yahoo league drafts always bog down, there and at Blue Balls of course. As soon as we pass CCRider's deadline expect a machinegun-like burst of draft picks. Be ready. Is 18:26 EST?
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| 102 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 31649212
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 15:20
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RFS/Ref - When do you think we can get an updated schedule? In particular, who I'm playing in week #10 may affect my draft strategy (as I have many byes that week)... I need to know whether it's even worth trying to cover that week, or if I should just write it off... and that depends in part on who my opponent will be and if he has any byes that week. I'm glad RFS posted that it wasn't correct, because I have been operating under the assumption that it was. TIA...
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| 103 | CCRider @ Work
ID: 180342915
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 15:24
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Baldwin, sorry to slow things down - I'm not in a position to be online with this draft all day at work and have been in meetings most of the morning. At least now your machinegun-like burst can proceed...
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| 104 | Baldwin
ID: 111112015
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 15:53
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Thanks for the timely pick CC.
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| 105 | TaRhEElKiD @ sisters
ID: 49759319
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 16:00
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Doug-league message sent
Craig Turley-does this get your attention?
Coldwater Coyotes-hit me with an e-mail or league message
THK
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| 106 | rockafellerskank
Leader
ID: 27652109
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 16:07
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I just talked to Taylor. He said he will pick ASAP.
Doug, I will start working on a schedule tonight. Frankly, i had forgotten to go in and revise it. But, I think you should just punt week 10 anyway!
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| 107 | Ref
Donor
ID: 100261311
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 16:29
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rfs and I have had some busy things going on in our personal lives and with the draft and our other leagues going on, it's not surprising that we both forgot about payouts and schedule. It may not be done before the draft ends, but hopefully that won't make any difference. I know I hadn't even looked at the schedule except who my first week's oponent was because it was on the main page.
Now I have a comment to make about the draft. Incredibly, my 5th and 4th round picks just went off the board in sequential order. Both of these guys are suspect but have upside. I almost got Clark last round but the Colts are saying that he will likely not be much of a factor until next year. But with Manning and a 2 TE set...who knows. Rackers is constantly in fear of losing his job, but he put up decent numbers last year as my backup K and I think deep made a good pick as well. I was so sure that neither of these guys would get picked that I have absolutely NO ONE in my q at all. This has been the toughest draft I've EVER been associated with and it keeps getting harder!
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| 108 | Ref
Donor
ID: 100261311
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 16:35
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As far as Action Figures goes, it has been well documented of his inactivity last year, but he has been adament that that time is in the past and he will be extremely active moving forward. Since he's made those statements, he went on to WIN the Toilet Bowl after having the worst regular season record, he has paid his league dues, he made the first pick of the draft at high noon, and in fact, this is the first time he's been skipped. Sometimes things come up in life that is more important than a game and that's why we have a time limit. I am assuming this is one of those times and that he will make his 4.01 selection shortly. RFS has even been giving him courtesy emails constantly so he must not have access right now and didn't anticipate it.
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| 109 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 31649212
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 16:41
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THK... I saw your email last night and replied (was the same offer as what you posted on the league site I think)... please read my reply and let me know if you think we have anywhere to go from here. If you did not receive it, I will try posting it to the league message board tonight... (probably around 8PM PST/11PM EST)
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| 110 | Baldwin
ID: 111112015
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 16:43
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Action Figures has gotten downright snippy with me in the past even at the suggestion that a manager should have to check in more than once a day during a draft. No question he picks a good team and manages it well tho. No complaints there.
Of course I concede I am over the edge hardcore wrt fantasy sports and reasonable people might disagree with my priorities.
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| 111 | rockafellerskank
Leader
ID: 27652109
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 16:44
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All those back up Philly RBs are going to be sitting on the bench, Doug!
I also posted a message for AF in our Political Baseball League. Really, after 80+ picks to only have 1 "skip" is very good.
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| 112 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 31649212
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 16:46
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Thanks for the scheduling update... thought about filling one more position for week 10 with my most recent pick, but I decided to stick with what I thought was the best value/Buckhalter insurance in Westbrook. Besides, I think I'll be able to trade to cover that gap. After week 3 I probably won't really need the 49ers, and they're a good D who will be facing some really weak offenses and thus could offer a lot of teams a good upgrade and increase their fantasy score significantly... we'll see how it all plays out!
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| 113 | Ref
Donor
ID: 100261311
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 16:52
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RE 110: Baldwin, actually there is question in that area, but he said he would be very active and manage his team this year. He finished last on here last year so he has no where to go but up. He are going to hold him to his word that he will be active and manage his team better this year.
Someone has to finish last, but if it's me, it shouldn't be because I'm not active as hell at least TRYING to make it better.
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| 114 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 31649212
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 16:54
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Cute RFS, cute... and not suprising coming from the manager who's still gripping on Staley. =-) Though I admit, there's still a chance he plays this year...
That aside, I think there are a handful of guys I passed on who will outscore Westbrook this year (he will see some 3rd down carries at least, like Kevin Faulk did for me last year...), but some of us take into account more than the current season. ;-)
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| 115 | Baldwin
ID: 111112015
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 17:09
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Ref
If I remember correctly two years ago Blue Balls, Action Figures and and CCRider gave my Marshall Faulk enhanced team all it could handle for most of the season until I finally pulled away. So even tho these guys don't always seem to care as much they can be effective managers.
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| 116 | Ref
Donor
ID: 100261311
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 17:14
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Agreed Baldwin. That was further evidenced that when AF was active with his team, he ran the table in the Toilet Bowl. This league is no place to be for the weak or inexperienced! ;)
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| 117 | Peter N.
Donor
ID: 27411312
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 17:27
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StLCards, check your e-mail when you get a chance. It's regarding a possible trade in G20 Baseball. Thanks
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| 118 | deepsnapper
Sustainer
ID: 17103420
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 17:38
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Re: 107 Ref - I had the kickoff guy in NY instead of the kicker & waited 1 round too late and the selections kinda dried up. (That scraping sound was Rackers's butt sliding off the board.)
Re: 100 Baldwin - It all is related to the impending L you're getting on the 25th. ;-)
Peter N - Thanks for making my pick. The Dr. was 2 hrs late to "work" today. I didn't want to hold the draft up for a kicker.
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| 119 | rockafellerskank
Leader
ID: 27652109
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 18:11
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rolling right along.....
e-mailing the next 5 picks:
4.14 Buffalo Bills – “Dan” from NY Giants - "Twarpy" swap 4th round picks as part of Gordon trade
4.15 Minnesota Vikings - "TaRhEElKiD"
4.16 Tampa Bay Bucs - "ksoze" fron Jacks. Jaguars - "CanEHdian Pride" in a trade
4.17 Arizona Cardinals - "Craig Turley"
4.18 San Francisco 49ers - "StL Cards"
**and of course AF can pick as soon as he logs in**
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| 120 | rockafellerskank
Leader
ID: 461124288
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 21:35
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THK, I made you another offer and I was WAY.... too generous.
Anyone seen Dan? He used to be online 24/7; what happened?
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| 121 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 22:11
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He found his true family lived at Walmart.
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| 122 | deepsnapper
Sustainer
ID: 17103420
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 22:17
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There was a movie like that.
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| 123 | TaRhEElKiD @ sisters
ID: 49759319
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 22:50
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RFS-I sent an e-mail to you. You have to understand my decision. If I accepted I would be in the same position you are, and I am just going to have to wait A-train out...
Doug-e-mail sent. I was expecting a league message and wasn't checking my e-mail. Sorry...
THK
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| 124 | StLCards
Sustainer
ID: 28758920
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 23:16
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RE #101 - looks like the machine gun has jammed ;)
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| 125 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 23:25
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It always jams at Dan, we've enforced a 10 minute pick time for him in the Chatroom draft.
He's around and just picked in the Chatroom draft, and I reminded him that his pick is up on AIM, several swearwords came outta his mouth, and an away message is up...So whether hes gonna pick anytime soon is up in the air.
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| 126 | StLCards
Sustainer
ID: 28758920
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 23:40
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At least he knows he is up. His pick expires at 12:00 (last pick at 6:00) so the next pick should be able to be made after that.
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| 127 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 23:42
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Well he's not responding, this is ridiculous though...
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| 128 | CanEHdian Pride
Donor
ID: 48936413
Wed, Aug 13, 2003, 23:47
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Delibratly holding up the draft should result in a penalty of some kind. We really should do something to stop immature behaviour like this.
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| 129 | deepsnapper
Sustainer
ID: 17103420
Thu, Aug 14, 2003, 00:50
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Dan picked, so it's to THK or AF if he decides to take his 4th rounder before the 5th round comes up. ;-)
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| 130 | StLCards
Sustainer
ID: 28758920
Thu, Aug 14, 2003, 01:40
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rfs has a 1 player queue for me, so no one take my pick in the morning and the draft can keep moving :)
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| 131 | ksoze
Sustainer
ID: 50643419
Thu, Aug 14, 2003, 06:16
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rfs,
I emailed you a small queue for my upcoming pick.
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| 132 | deepsnapper
Sustainer
ID: 411148204
Thu, Aug 14, 2003, 13:32
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Well AF made 4.01, it's up to THK now. Has anyone heard from the North Carolina boy?
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| 133 | StLCards
Sustainer
ID: 461351716
Thu, Aug 14, 2003, 15:34
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Since Dan picked during the night, THK's clock started at 9am ET and expired at 3pm ET. I'm guessing that CP should be on the clock now?
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| 134 | Ref
Donor
ID: 100261311
Thu, Aug 14, 2003, 15:41
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Correct, rights to the next pick exclusively expired at 3:00 ET. CP gave me a q last time, but not sure that is valid for this round and can't even remember who that player was now or if he's still even available.
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| 135 | ksoze
Sustainer
ID: 50643419
Thu, Aug 14, 2003, 16:39
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Actually, I'm up now due to the trade I made with EH a few days ago, we swapped picks this round.
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| 136 | deepsnapper
Sustainer
ID: 411148204
Thu, Aug 14, 2003, 16:46
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rfs had it right in 119. :-)
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| 137 | Ref
Donor
ID: 100261311
Thu, Aug 14, 2003, 16:52
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CT is up with 4.17 (assuming it hasn't been traded to somebody else ;))
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| 138 | coldwater coyotes
Leader
ID: 46222819
Thu, Aug 14, 2003, 17:45
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Please cancel my existing queue list.
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| 139 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Fri, Aug 15, 2003, 17:03
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I sent a queue to RFS in the reply to his trade offer!!!
May I still pick? He fortunately hasn't been taken...
THK
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