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Posted by: KrazyKoalaBears - Donor [513102216] Tue, Aug 19, 2003, 23:57
1KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 513102216
      Tue, Aug 19, 2003, 23:58 		6.1 Todd Heap
4dgrooves
      ID: 444581317
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 00:00 		6.02 Troy Hambrick
5Astade
      ID: 376502816
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 00:09 		6.03 Peerless Price

thanks for all of your work on the draft, KKB
6holt
      ID: 5064656
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 00:49 		I'm here.
7holt
      ID: 5064656
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 00:50 		6.04 Trung Canidate
8Pat Wright
      ID: 2411414
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 00:51 		Point Edward, Ontario. Hour away from Detroit, 3 hours away from Toronto.
Teams: Red Wings, Leafs, Pistons, Tigers, Lions
9KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 513102216
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 00:54 		6.05 Duce Staley
10KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 513102216
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 00:54 		UPDATE (G'night)
11holt
      ID: 5064656
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 01:24 		Just to clarify, Staley was Wiggs' pick made by KKB.
So MyBoyJack is up.
12kev
      ID: 3155515
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 02:21 		Guys, just so you know, I am around, and just emailing KKB my que all the time. Thanks for making all these picks KKB.

Calgary, Alberta.

I bleed for the Bears and Suns though..
13Myboyjack
      Leader
      ID: 14826271
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 06:43 		6.06 Correll Buckhalter
14beetski
      ID: 9623278
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 07:02 		6.7 Jake Plummer
15KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 2752157
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 08:53 		I have kev and Pat Wright's next picks, so as soon as JerryLewis shows up, it'll be PD's pick.
16JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 11:02 		6.8 Quincy Morgan Cleveland
17KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 2752157
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 11:20 		For kev
6.9 Kevan Barlow

For Pat Wright
6.10 Kerry Collins

18Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 526482422
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 11:53 		6.11 Emmitt Smith, RB, AZ
20KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 2752157
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 11:57 		UPDATE
21Pancho Villa
      Donor
      ID: 533817
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 12:25 		6.12 D Mason WR Titans
7.1 S Mack RB Texans
22Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 526482422
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 12:34 		7.2 Kelly Holcomb, QB, Cleveland
23JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 12:40 		Nice pick for the 7th round Perm Dude.
24JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 12:41 		OK, KKB must have Pat Wright and Kev's picks and then I'm up.
25Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 526482422
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 12:51 		Yeah, I was suprised he was still there.

Have to give props to holt for getting Vick with #57. When he comes back he's gonna be a points monster.

pd
26JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 12:56 		He's not coming back till at least mid season. Trust me on that one.
27JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 12:57 		There not going to risk ruining his career and it takes longer than 6 weeks for a bone to heal.
28JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 13:05 		Man, this new AOL 9.0 Optimized for Broadband is pretty nice. Anybody with AOL and Broadband should check it out.


I know alot of people hate AOL but this is pretty nice.
29Myboyjack
      Leader
      ID: 108231015
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 13:18 		I've got to leave for a few hours; somebody want a very short que? PD, you gonna be around.
30 Astade
      ID: 214361313
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 13:35 		myboyjack,

let me know if you still need to leave your queue...
31KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 2752157
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 13:37 		I only had 1 pick for Pat Wright. Sorry.
32Perm Dude
      Leader
      ID: 526482422
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 13:42 		I'll be around all day, until about 6:30 EST.

pd
33holt
      ID: 5064656
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 13:58 		Alright - who's the Paranoid Leprechauns? That's kinda intimidating.
34JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 14:46 		Pat Wright definitely needs a queue. He is always holding this thing up. I thought he said he was hardcore? :)
35JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 14:50 		Oh oh, bad mouthing the other league members already!! :)
36Pancho Villa
      Donor
      ID: 533817
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 15:04 		Really, Jerry, you may need to be talking trade with him for running backs ;)
37JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 15:08 		Nah, I got a MASTER PLAN for the running back position. :)
38JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 15:12 		You're hurting at RECEIVER Pancho.
39Pancho Villa
      Donor
      ID: 533817
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 15:12 		The Tonya Harding Plan? Pick backups and send your goons in to maim the starters? Be advised that NFL running backs don't go down as easily as Nancy Kerrigan..unless they're Fred Taylor.
40JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 15:13 		And it's not coming back to you for about 20 picks!!
41JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 15:14 		Running backs take a worse beating than Receivers.
42JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 15:16 		By the time it gets back to you, you're gonna be looking at scrub receivers Pancho.

Sorry to inform you of this horrific news! LOL. :)

The trash talking has begun.
43holt
      ID: 5064656
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 15:53 		Yes, both Pancho and Jerry are gonna be beggin' for trades, but nobody is gonna deal with 'em. Call it tough love. ;)
44wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 27735145
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 15:56 		i have 3 WRs all top quality guys. Let me know if you are interested in a trade either for future picks or players.
45JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 15:59 		I got a MASTER PLAN holt. :)
46Astade
      ID: 376502816
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 16:00 		wish Pat Wright was around... bet we could get this draft going. Seems like alot of us are around :/
47JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 16:01 		Wiggs, I know you're not giving up PORTIS and I don't want STALEY. But if you get another decent running back..........
48kev
      ID: 3155515
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 16:02 		Jerry, Im interested in Koren Robinson...after my next pick maybe we can throw a trade together.
49JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 16:03 		Not giving him up KEV. He should be huge this year.
50JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 16:16 		BTW, do punt and kick return yards count for running backs and receivers?


Anybody know?
51wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 27735145
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 16:16 		jerry, thats why i said i have 3 WRs not RBs. I might be willing to move portis, but it would have to be one hell of a deal.
52JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 16:18 		Sorry Wiggs misread your post. Yea, Portis is one of the top 3 Backs. You should ask for alot.
53JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 16:20 		Answered my own question. Return Yards are 30 yards per point.
54JerryLewis
      ID: 137251916
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 16:21 		I luv the scoring in this league. It's gonna be very interesting.
55Pancho Villa
      Donor
      ID: 533817
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:02 		On my short list, I show 14 running backs left, most with questionable chances for touches

On my WR short list, I show 38 left. WRs, after about the top 10, are a dime a dozen.
56holt
      ID: 5064656
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:07 		Hey all - some of us make picks in the daytime, some at night, some both. If you know you're going to be away for the entire day or night, make sure you leave a queue (enough for 2 picks). If anybody is having trouble finding research time because of family or work, I have a cool draft tool I can send ya with updated player info, and you can do a quick check at rototimes.com for the latest injury updates. An hour or 2 between picks is totally cool - I just think we all want to avoid gaps of 4 hours or more during the day and evening.
57holt
      ID: 5064656
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:17 		Yeah PV, I see a few RB's I like but they are all questionable as far as playing time goes.
58Pancho Villa
      Donor
      ID: 533817
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:26 		With the deep rosters, there will be virtually no decent free agent RBs or QBs. Even though there are 4 WRs starting, the free agent pool will still be fairly sizable, and sleeper and comeback WRs, ala Charles Johnson, Terry Glenn or Antonio Freeman are more likely to have success than comeback RBs, ala Adrian Murrell.
59Pat Wright
      ID: 2411414
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:27 		7.3 Onterrio Smith
60Pat Wright
      ID: 2411414
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:30 		Hey guys,
You can thank madden for my tardiness, I was up all night on here, and playing madden, then slept from like 11:15 to 5:20. Sorry guys, didn't know i was ognna fall asleep.
61holt
      ID: 5064656
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:31 		ah yes - madden! what do you guys think of 2004? I haven't played it yet.
62KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 513102216
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:32 		For kev
7.4 Tommy Maddox
63Astade
      ID: 376502816
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:32 		hey Pat,

it's not really a big deal. As Pancho Villa said though, it would be great if you send a queue to one of us so that we can execute your pick on behalf of you. that way we won't have to rush the last few rounds in order to finish before the start of the season
64holt
      ID: 5064656
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:34 		I like the deep rosters because it gives most of the NFL guys some playing time in our league. I think it forces you to keep a closer eye on your team too. Cool idea.
65Pat Wright
      ID: 2411414
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:34 		This is tough with not having an actual list of players. Any suggestions?
66Pat Wright
      ID: 2411414
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:37 		Madden 2004 is my favourite game of all time.
67Astade
      ID: 376502816
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:38 		Pat,

Since the beginning of this draft I have been using a spreadsheet that allows you to customize the rankings of players.
As the draft has progressed I've just shaded all the players that have been drafted.

If you are interested it is found in post 5 (thanks to Battles):
Spreadsheet

If you don't feel like going through it, I can send you my updated one w/ the latest picks
68JerryLewis
      ID: 217342015
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:38 		37 receivers left Pancho.


7.5 Marty Booker WR Chicago
69kev
      ID: 3155515
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:39 		I was waivering a ton of Booker. I feel he fell a lot, but I felt getting 2 QB's from high powered offenses in this scoring system was more important than my 3rd WR.
70JerryLewis
      ID: 217342015
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:41 		Tommy Maddox is a good pick for round 7 KEV.
71holt
      ID: 5064656
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:46 		Hey Pat. Here is a cool program - they update the database from time to time, so you may have to download it from time to time. Draft Advisor. I would still double-check each players status before making the official pick, but this program really helps.
72holt
      ID: 5064656
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:51 		hehee - another WR Jerry Lewis? You evil bastard.
73JerryLewis
      ID: 217342015
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:54 		LOL Holt.

BEETSKI you out there? You're UP.
74KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 513102216
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:56 		I don't know about the rest of you, but I honestly cannot wait to see what RB's JerryLewis ends up with.
75dgrooves
      ID: 444581317
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 17:58 		KKB, would it be out of the question to have two threads, one only for picks and another for discussion?
76JerryLewis
      ID: 217342015
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:01 		Hey, I got four #1 receivers from high powered passing teams. In this scoring, receivers are very close to running backs in value.
77beetski
      ID: 9623278
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:03 		7.6 Darell Jackson
78JerryLewis
      ID: 217342015
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:12 		Well, Chicago isn't a high powered passing team. But Booker caught 97 balls last year.
79KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 513102216
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:17 		dgrooves, ask and ye shall receive. LEAGUE DISCUSSION THREAD
80holt
      ID: 5064656
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:33 		Myboyjack, you're on the clock.
81Astade
      ID: 214361313
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:40 		on behalf of Myboyjack:

7.07 Chris Chambers
82wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 27735145
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:41 		7.8 Amos Zereoue
83holt
      ID: 5064656
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:52 		7.09 The old man, JERRY RICE
84Astade
      ID: 214361313
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:59 		7.10 Brad Johnson
85dgrooves
      ID: 444581317
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:03 		7.11 Donte Stallworth
86KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 513102216
      Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:06 		7.12 Drew Brees

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