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Subject: RotoGuru Goin' Deep League Discussion
Posted by: KrazyKoalaBears
- Donor [513102216] Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:15
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1 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:25
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JerryLewis, it's not the points that are the problem. It's the depth. Most teams have 2 receivers that are playing most plays. However, they usually only have 1 back playing most plays. That means there are 62 "starting" WR's and only 32 "starting" RB's. So, when the first 32 are gone from each position, you're left with table scraps at the RB position, yet you still have very viable options at WR.
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2 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:32
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Yea, I'm gonna be weak at running back but hopefully strong at the other spots.
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3 | holt
ID: 5064656 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:32
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I think Jerry Lewis is trying to corner the market and force Pancho and others into lopsided trades. JL - your master plan is treacherous and will surely fail. You will be stuck with Olandis Gary and Fred Beasley, and will eventually shoot yourself while hiding in a bunker.
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4 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:33
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LMAO Holt!
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5 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:33
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in two words: position scarcity
:)
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6 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 18:47
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hehehe. Wouldn't it be funny to see them do a 2 WR for 2 RB swap? ;) Astade and dgrooves, hang around (or leave queue's) because I'll swing this draft around pretty quick when it's my turn.
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7 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:09
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Astade, I probably wouldn't have taken B. Johnson. I'm leary of his injury history and also the defensive minded Bucs.
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8 | Astade
ID: 214361313 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:10
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KKB = the thread nazi
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9 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:14
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Nah. I just know that it's hard for some people to follow a draft if there's a lot of discussion mingled in. dgrooves made a good suggestion. :) Under any other circumstances, I wouldn't worry about having separate threads for things or worry about OT discussion.
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10 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:15
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ASTADE, you're UP right?
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11 | Astade
ID: 214361313 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:16
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kkb, j/k
JL, holt is up now :)
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12 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:22
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WIDE RECEIVERS are going fast and furious PANCHO.
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13 | Astade
ID: 214361313 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:24
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yea, this is the last chance to get the middle of the pack WRs, IMHO. I say another dozen or so, then you'll have to start reachin'. Pancho can pick up 2 decent WRs though, so he'll be ok.
Sorry JL :)
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14 | holt
ID: 5064656 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:25
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Nope not me. Wiggs is up now. I hate it - can't find any good info anywhere on p & k returners. I've reduced myself to going through depth charts on the team sites, which is probably totally inaccurate.
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15 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:26
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I think were already into #2 wide receivers that are kind of a reach.
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16 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:28
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Down to about 30 WR, but fortunately for you Jerry, Obefemi Ayanbadejo is still on the board.
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17 | Astade
ID: 214361313 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:29
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JL, do you have any basis for saying that?
The last two WRs taken; Conway and Taylor are both considered #1 WRs on their respective teams.
They might not achieve the numbers of your #1's like Robinson & Driver, but they will still get similar opportunities.
disagree?
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18 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:29
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LOL
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19 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:29
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I still have plenty of #2 WR's left on my board... at least for now. :)
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20 | holt
ID: 5064656 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:30
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yeah - have fun with your fullbacks JL.
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21 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:31
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Actually, I still have a LOT of #2's left and a few #1's left on my board. And then there's still the viable #3's.
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22 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:32
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I don't think Conway is a #1. Taylor has been a disappointment to the RAVENS.
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23 | holt
ID: 5064656 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:32
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Pray for alot WR reverses too JL - that might get you a few yards too.
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24 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:35
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LOL
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25 | Astade
ID: 214361313 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:35
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actually JL isn't taking a RB cause of pride, methinks.
I bet he realized after he reached for Hasselbeck in the 2nd that he had no chance to land a good RB so he's just going with it ;)
JL, is your plan to draft the backups to all the premier backs and then hope they get injured? ...hehe
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26 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:37
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WIGGS YOU'RE UP.
I got a plan ASTADE.
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27 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:44
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Is it my turn yet?
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28 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:47
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NO, about 6 more receivers have to GO before it's your turn. :)
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29 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 19:54
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i picked
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30 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 20:01
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wiggs using the Jerry Lewis strategy for Quarterbacks
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31 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 20:05
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Yea, WIGGS don't have a quarterback. WOW!
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32 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 20:06
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i am just looking at the QBs left and i dont think it really makes much of a difference which one i get at this point.
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33 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 20:07
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You've got good players WIGGS even if you don't have a quarterback.
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34 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 20:08
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lmao, wiggs you don't sound too happy about it either
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35 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 20:10
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not real happy, but i am happy with the rest of my team.
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36 | holt
ID: 5064656 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 20:20
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Well - looks like the draft is gonna stall here. I got to make 2 picks though.
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37 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 20:22
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MyBoyJack gave me a queue earlier this afternoon, but I am assuming it was just for that one pick.
From his email it sounded like he'd be back later this evening, so no worries...
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38 | holt
ID: 5064656 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 20:29
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yeah - if he just has one position listed I wouldn't mess with it.
just wondering how yahoo's roster works. does kkb have an automated way of adding these guys to our rosters? 240 guys is a lot of players. Can we add them or is that something only the commish can do?
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39 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 20:49
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I'll have to add them. It's not really bad because they have a list of players and I do each team one-by-one. So really, it's just 12 teams of 20 players, not 240 players assigned to 12 teams (if that makes sense).
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40 | holt
ID: 5064656 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 20:57
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Oh - I was gonna say, I can add my own players to save you time - either way, no biggie.
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41 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 23:16
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Just got back in and picked. Sorry for the hold up. Thanks for picking for me Astade
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42 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 23:35
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KEV is on the clock if he is around.
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43 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 23:38
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LOL,
Jerry Lewis, your draft strategy is hilarious!
In all seriousness though, please draft some RBs or pull off a trade. Some of these teams are gonna be real competitive and I have no idea how you'll be able to hang w/ them without atleast one Stud RB
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44 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 23:39
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Master Plan Astade.
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45 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 23:43
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BTW, my team is very competitive to this point.
Wiggs has no quarterback.
Pancho has now receivers.
Why aren't you hassling them?
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46 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 23:47
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I have the no 1 TE and a receiver and 2 picks comin up. Having Gonzalez is better than having lots of wide receivers
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47 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 23:47
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Should have put a smiley on that post :) :)
NO is not spelled "now" either.
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48 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 23:49
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in general w/ 3 RB slots, I think it's a pretty tough hole to get out of if you have 0 studs.
I know from my personal draft experience, sometimes we can put blinders on such that we pick players that won't help in the standings...
it was friendly advice, just trying to help ya out man
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49 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Wed, Aug 20, 2003, 23:52
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The Stud running backs are long gone dude.
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50 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 00:39
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The starting running backs are all gone, and since it looks like PD is gone, so am I. See ya in the morning for my 2 earth-shattering picks!
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51 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 00:50
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#49, I know that there are no more stud RBs left.
Trading your picks or a package deal including your top WRs might have been the way to go to land some RB talent.
Enough on the subject, if you don't understand, you will by season's end.
night
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52 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 01:03
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This forum is heating up eh? I like this, but i'm gonna get smashed, so I'm not trash talking anyone. Perhaps if we somehow had a madden tournament..........
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53 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 1754479 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 01:08
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Just took the steal of the draft. If given any real PT, Hatchette is good for 12 tds this year, 900 yards, no problem.
PV is up for two, then me, but I won't be able to check until about ten or so EST. But I'll be around all day tomorrow after that.
pd
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54 | holt
ID: 5064656 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 04:07
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We'll see PD. Cool story - I'm rootin' for him. I don't know if NFL defenses will let him burn them 9 times, but he's a solid pick. We'll see.
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55 | kev
ID: 3155515 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 04:23
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I didnt have him on my list....maybe I am not as well informed or up on things like I thought I was.
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56 | holt
ID: 5064656 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 04:40
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He came up with the vikings and didn't get a chance really, and he got hurt at the wrong times. He was awesome in europe though - it's a comeback story I guess, or a breakout story.
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57 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 06:43
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i sent a queue to KKB.
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58 | beetski
ID: 9623278 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 07:36
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I'm sending one now
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59 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 1754479 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 08:15
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Hatchette was out of the NFL last year. Leading reciever in NFL Europe last year, where he finally got a chance to show his skills.
He picked the right team to try in Jacksonville, and now with Smith out I'm hoping it really works out for both of us.
pd
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60 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 2752157 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 08:43
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I got a queue for Pat Wright, kev, wiggs, and beetski.
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61 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 108231015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 09:27
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I'm 6 picks away; but if the draft gets to me I'll be able to check back in about 1:00.
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62 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 10:15
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How are WAIVER claims and FREE AGENTS handled in this league?
Like if a STUD Running Back got injured and 2 people wanted to add his backup to their roster, how would that be handled?
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63 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 2752157 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 10:23
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If a player is a free agent, it's first come, first serve. If he's on waivers, it's based on waiver priority, which is set by Yahoo.
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64 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 10:27
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OK, thanks.
Guess were waiting on Perm Dude?
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65 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 526482422 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 10:32
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Tough pick. There are a few top positions left, and knowing nearly all of them will be gone by the time I pick again makes it difficult. Went with the best defense available, since at least I have some top guys at the major positions already.
pd
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66 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 10:37
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Carolina should be a good defense. Although Jack Del Rio their coordinator from last year is now the coach at Jacksonville.
The coordinator makes a big difference sometimes.
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67 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 526482422 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 10:38
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Yeah, and with Fields out there is a slight downgrade at LB. But I liked what I saw against Washington.
pd
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68 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 11:11
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MyBoyJack said he won't be back until 1:00 pm so I'm outta here.
I'll be back about 5:00 PM Central Time if it swings back to me by then. Doubtful.
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69 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 11:24
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I feared a run on defense and almost picked Carolina. Think that Charles Rogers might emerge as a top 10-15 receiver, so I couldn't pass on him.
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70 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 12:37
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I think Josh Reed and Donte Stallworth are going to have huge years
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71 | holt
ID: 5064656 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 14:36
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I really didn't want to pick my defense in the 9th round, but I really really really didn't want to end up with the vikings or cardinals D, so you do what you gotta do I guess.
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72 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 15:02
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holt,
Same with me. Didn't want to get the left over Defenses...feel bad about picking them so early though!!!
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73 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 526482422 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 15:06
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I think I started a stampede!
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74 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 15:07
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PD, you are a trend setter ;)
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75 | holt
ID: 5064656 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 15:22
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I just didn't want Jerry Lewis to take all of the D's before I got to them. ;)
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76 | holt
ID: 5064656 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 15:38
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Well, now I've got Kordell, the poor man's Vick, until Vick comes back strong!
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77 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 15:39
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anybody wanna trade ?
i'm getting bored w/ the draft ... ;)
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78 | holt
ID: 5064656 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 15:42
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I want Warner, but I don't know if I can make a deal for him or not.
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79 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 108231015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 15:42
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KKB - you got a pick for wiggs? If so I'll be able to pick before my 4:30 hearing.
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80 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 2752157 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 15:43
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Myboyjack, all I have is the one from the previous round. Go ahead and send me a queue if you like.
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81 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 108231015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 15:52
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Hate to ask - but what's your addy again?
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82 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 2752157 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 15:55
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admin@kafenatid.net
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83 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 108231015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 15:58
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que sent
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84 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 2752157 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 16:06
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Got it.
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85 | holt
ID: 5064656 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 16:20
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Fiedler's probably a good pick wiggs - I was thinking about taking him instead of Kordell. Fiedler will probably put up good fantasy points, but having griese behind him scares me. qb controversy in the making.
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86 | holt
ID: 5064656 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 16:21
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whoa - just saw that he was your first qb pick. Yikes indeed!
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87 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 16:21
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LOL @ holt
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88 | holt
ID: 5064656 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 16:29
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Hey - just noticed that only ONE Dallas Cowboy has been drafted (hambrick in the 6th rd). Parcells or not, that team still stinks.
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89 | holt
ID: 5064656 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 16:32
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I think it's spelled Boerigter, right?
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90 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 16:34
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Things are moving petty fast. I won't be back until about 7PM MST(that's 9PM for you right coasters), so hold on, I'll be there.
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91 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 2752157 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 16:40
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holt, you are correct. I just copy and pasted from the email. :) Pancho, send a queue if you can.
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92 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 16:40
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pancho, any way you can leave a queue? I will be around most of the night and will not be picking again until you get both of yours in. send it to the address above if you are interested. wiggs
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93 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 16:41
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I'm here. Beetski is up.
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94 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 16:47
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KKB, you got a queue for BEETSKI right?
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95 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 17:21
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JerryLewis, just for last round, not for this round.
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96 | beetski
ID: 9623278 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:14
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Just a quick glance, kev and My boy jack, have i think by far the best 2 teams, any moree guesses
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97 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:19
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i think Dgrooves and holt both have strong teams.
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98 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:24
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I like Beetski's team
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99 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:27
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i am going out for a bit, i will be back in about 2 hours.
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100 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:28
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its funny that we have had 3 players pick the best teams and we have 5 different teams and no one picked the same as someone else. must be an evenly matched league.
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101 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:34
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Hopefully it's a very strong and competitve league
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102 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:43
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Hey KKB, Forget about the Que i sent you please. I want to change it, and i'll be around.
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103 | holt
ID: 51546234 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 19:14
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Everyone should think that their own team is the best, unless you completely screwed up your draft like Jerry Lewis ;), but I like Beetski's team, and I'll give honorable mention to Astade and Myboyjack.
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104 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 19:27
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It's a bit early to evaluate the rosters, IMO.
I think Beetski has a very strong foundation though. That trio of RBs along w/ the rest of his offense will be very tough to beat.
Thanks for the mention, holt.
Now where are PD and Pancho?
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105 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 19:50
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I thought Perm Dude said he was going to be around tonight?
KKB has 2 queue picks for PANCHO.
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106 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 19:51
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Yea post 53, he said he was gonna be around all day after about 10 am.
Liar! :)
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107 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 19:58
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OK, I'm back, what up with PD?
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108 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:00
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Anybody know what "Points during BYE week means"?
or "BYE Points"
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109 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:00
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JL, i was trying to figure that out too...
...i have no idea
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110 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:01
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JerryLewis, there's a N/A there because it doesn't apply to this league. In a head-to-head league, you can set it up so managers that have a BYE week still get points, which apply towards tie-breakers and such.
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111 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:02
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Oh ok, I printed out the league settings from the Yahoo site and it says "YES" for that.
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112 | holt
ID: 51546234 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:06
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Hey KKB, on the draft page you have J. Stewart listed for JAX (astade's team) - shouldn't it be DET? No biggie - just something I noticed.
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113 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 1754479 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:14
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Checking in for a few minutes--was out mowing the lawn. I'll take a look at the draft thread now, see who's left.
pd
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114 | holt
ID: 51546234 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:17
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Rambo is still available PD. I know you want Rambo!
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115 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:17
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i am kind of disappointed no one mentioned my team. I am pretty happy with it, except for qb of course.
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116 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:18
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I'm back. Thanks for the pick, KKB.
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117 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 1754479 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:21
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Ha! Yeah, Yo Adrian might even get a few carries.
pd
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118 | holt
ID: 51546234 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:21
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I just looked through them all quickly wiggs - I discounted your team because of the QB thing. It definitely was not a scientific study!
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119 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:23
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holt, you just wait, fiedler will be awesome this year. :) wishful thinking
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120 | beetski
ID: 9623278 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:28
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I dunno about the rest of you, but im staying out of this potential Kicker run. As long as I don't get vanderjagt. I feel a few Charlie Brown's for him this yr.
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121 | holt
ID: 51546234 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:30
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I almost took fiedler right before you did, but I decided to stick with the running QB's. He's definitely a good pick, but the fact that he is your only QB should be frightening. Aren't there only about 3 starting QB's left?
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122 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:41
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OT: wiggs, you'll be up in our Survivor draft in 30 minutes.
If you can make a pick we can turn the corner and maybe hit the last round tonight
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123 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:46
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Why did Perm Dude leave? He knew he was gonna be up again right away.
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124 | holt
ID: 51546234 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:49
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he might be doing research right now.
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125 | holt
ID: 51546234 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 20:57
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Or maybe he uses a windows operating system.
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126 | beetski
ID: 9623278 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:02
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I don't view my next pick as an essential one, If someone like Wiggs, or someone else needs to fill a position inb this round and will make me a decent trade, email me buttermilkfm@hotmail.com or just reply here
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127 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:06
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Plaxico Burress looks awesome tonight. Game is on FOX.
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128 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:08
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holt, thanks for the heads up about Stewart. Must have been a late-90's flashback. ;)
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129 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:10
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I'll check back about 10:00 pm Central.
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130 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 1754479 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:14
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Back.
At home, I'm stuck with a dial-up, so I can't check in all the time like I can at the office with a cable modem.
I'll pick in a few minutes, then I guess it'll be awhile until it gets to me again.
pd
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131 | kev
ID: 3155515 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:18
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Hopefully Pat left a que...im around, and ready to pick.
I must also say, this draft is looking like it could go any different way. These next picks still matter a ton though
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132 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 1754479 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:33
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OK, moving along. Took Northcutt, so cross him off your lists!
pd
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133 | holt
ID: 51546234 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:35
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good pick db, oops, I mean pd. :)
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134 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 1754479 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:37
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Thanks. Almost took another guy, but I like Cleveland with Holcomb throwing better than with Couch.
pd
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135 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:37
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I left a Que kev don't worry :):)
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136 | kev
ID: 3155515 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:41
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Picked...On JL.
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137 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:49
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I'm done. BEETSKI is up.
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138 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:01
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good work kev, on picking by yourself, haha jk
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139 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:06
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Hey HOLT, I live 2 hours from Green Bay. You might be dissappointed with that DEFENSE.
They have some problems. Their defensive line is in a shambles. Two new linebackers including a rookie Middle Line Backer. And Strong safety is a problem. (Antuan Edwards right now)
I don't expect them to rank anywhere near where they were last year.
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140 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:10
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I think teams are gonna run AT WILL on them.
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141 | holt
ID: 33724214 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:11
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hmmm - I'm planning on picking up another D anyway. I still think GB has a good D but we shall see.
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142 | holt
ID: 33724214 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:14
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Naaah, you're just trying to trade one of your D's for a RB! ;) Did I hear today that Gilbert Brown is going to skip surgery and play this year after all?
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143 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:14
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That's all they talk about on the sports news here. How bad the DEFENSE is looking.
Stay away from them in the TSN game if you're playing.
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144 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:16
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Yea, he's trying to play. They are really hurting at NOSE TACKLE on the D-Line.
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145 | holt
ID: 33724214 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:26
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I will look into this. I will take your advice in the TSN game though, until I hear different.
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146 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:27
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JL, nice lobbying...I guess you don't need 3 Defenses ;)
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147 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:31
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Nah, Astade we live and die with the PACKERS up here. I follow the team closely. I can tell you anything you want to know about them.
It's not bullsh*t. Research it for yourself. The first team offense from the opposing teams have been tearing the PACKERS up in the preseason.
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148 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:34
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Looks like BEETSKI is gone. I'm callin it a nite.
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149 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:45
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JL, atleast email a queue to one of us... just in case
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150 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:53
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I'll continue to check in from time to time
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151 | holt
ID: 51546234 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 01:21
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Your up Myboyjack, if you're still around.
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152 | kev
ID: 3155515 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 04:43
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Im happy grabbing Atlanta's defense this late. A Wade Phillip's defense is always good. I really wanted the Pats D. I figure with the additions of Harrison and Colvin, the Pats will be a top 3 defense. Defineatly a steal.
I don't think I have made any significant mistake so far in this draft, which is nice. Usually by now I am really regretting a pick.
With TD passes being worth the same as TD rushes, I had Rich Gannon and Peyton Manning far and away the top 2 QB's, with Vick's injury. McNabb being 4th. Grabbing Gannon when I did was lucky, plain and simple.
Looking quickly at the rosters, so far, it seems there are 6 to 7 solid teams. At this point in the draft, the deepness of the league begins to take shape. Usual waiver wire pickups will now be seen on rosters instead. I have never been in a league with Kick Return yards.....I hope I didnt jump too early on Santana Moss
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153 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 06:40
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I just found out my wifes grandmother has a blood clot in her leg and she was rushed to the ER last night, we are heading out of town and i will have computer access, it is just a matter was when and for how long. I do not want to hold the draft up, but i also do not have time to make a queue. If it gets to my pick and some time goes by with out a pick, i will allow someone to pick for me, please no joke picks, or you can skip me and i will pick when i get a chance. I hope this is acceptable for everyone. Thanks guys. wiggs
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154 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 07:40
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wiggs, sorry to hear about that. We'll keep an eye on things and can draft accordingly for you if too much time passes.
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155 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 10:50
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TRADE OFFER
KKB, would you be interested in trading your next 2 picks for 1 of my wide receivers?
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156 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 526482422 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 10:58
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Re #147: I watched the Cleveland/GB game, and was suprised at how much scoring there was. I expected GB to do well against Cleveland (who are great against the pass but are sloppy against the run with Brown not 100%), but did not expect Cleveland to have the good passing game they did.
pd
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157 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 2752157 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 11:04
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JerryLewis, Sorry, I just picked. Besides, I feel okay with the WR options out there. :)
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158 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 11:06
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Yea Perm, like I said I doubt Green Bay ranks as high in DEFENSE as they did last year. Their DEF is "shaky" at best.
But it's only preseason. Who knows.
I got probably the 3 best defenses in the league on my roster so I have no worries in that department.
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159 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 2752157 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 11:08
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Too bad you can only start 1 per week. ;)
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160 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 11:09
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Matchups, Trades, BYE weeks. Their valuable.
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161 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 2752157 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 11:11
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Just givin' you a hard time. Are you going to pick one of your starting 3 RB's soon? It's turned into one of the more interesting aspects of our draft.
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162 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 11:12
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I'm looking for an extra pick in this next round.
For one of my recievers or a couple of my late round picks.
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163 | holt
ID: 51546234 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 13:29
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I'm here - I'll pick in a minute here.
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164 | holt
ID: 51546234 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 13:48
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Michael Lewis might have been a stretch, but I'm tired of getting my picks snatched from me!. Every time I've decided to wait one more round on somebody I've lost them. No more! I want somebody I take them!
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165 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:09
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Kev, David Terrell a steal?
He still hasn't beaten out DEZ WHITE for 2nd receiver on the BEARS. And from listening to Chicago radio (670 The Score- 2 hours away), I'm not sure the BEARS are happy with him. Think he's got an attitude problem.
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166 | kev
ID: 3155515 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:10
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Well, I have had David Terrell on my pick list for 4 rounds now, and just decided to see where he would fall. I was going to draft my kicker, but I figure I will wait on the next run. Dez White has never been able to hold onto the ball...Terrell will be starting. I expect big things out of him.
One guy left on my must have list...hopefully he doesnt go in the next 5 picks
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167 | kev
ID: 3155515 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:13
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David Terrell does have an attitude problem. Like I said above, I don't have a doubt he will beat out Dez White. Last year, he had 2 TD's in his first 4 games before being hurt. He has a ton of talent. I figure he was the best WR left. With Lelie, Moss, Boston and Coles ahead of him, Im happy with him as my 5th WR.
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168 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:15
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He's still #3 on all the depth charts I can find. REACH!
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169 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:16
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Forgot the smiley on that last post. :)
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170 | kev
ID: 3155515 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:18
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Is this coming from the guy cornering the market on Kickers (starting 1), and D's (starting 1)?
Let me know if you need Rich Gannon as your RB. He will probably rush for more yards than whomever you take.
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171 | kev
ID: 3155515 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:18
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;)
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172 | kev
ID: 3155515 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:19
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If Matt Hatchette can be a steal, so can David Terrell!
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173 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:21
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Matt Hatchette was a horrible pick IMHO. Not a steal.
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174 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:21
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:)
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175 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:22
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This is just good natured ribbing BTW. :)
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176 | holt
ID: 51546234 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 18:02
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OK - I give - who is Toefield???
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177 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 18:08
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holt, the backup for Fred Taylor (his first round pick).
seems like a good idea seeing as how often he gets injured; pansy!
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178 | holt
ID: 51546234 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 18:10
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ahhh thanks - makes sense I guess.
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179 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 18:49
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Haha Toefield will a good pick, and I took him so I have a back up to Fragile Fred
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180 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 19:02
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I had him on my radar. Even if Taylor plays, Toefield will probably get the goal line carries that were so frustrating for Taylor owners last year when Mack was doing all the scoring. He's got to be rated in the top 10 for back-up RBs.
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181 | holt
ID: 51546234 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 19:08
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does anyone have a queue for PD?
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182 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 19:33
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I don't have a que for him
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183 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 1754479 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 19:59
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I'm here. I'll pick in a moment.
pd
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184 | holt
ID: 51546234 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 20:38
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The dangerous Pancho Villa, hated by thousands and loved by millions, is on the clock.
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185 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 20:41
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Ouch. Those two picks hurt me, PV.
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186 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 20:42
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But not for long! Hey, I learned how to post in bold! *slaps ignorant self on back*
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187 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 20:45
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HAHAHAHAHA good work PV
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188 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 22:02
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Sorry about the double post, I went to the site and my pick wasn't there for some reason
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189 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 22:03
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12 rounds in the books and Jerry Lewis still hasn't drafted a RB. Has this gone beyond curious into mockery? If it were TE, DEF or kicker, you might go 12 rounds, but not the 3 core positions.
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190 | holt
ID: 51546234 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 22:08
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hey pat - you can delete a post - just click the self-edit link at the bottom.
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191 | holt
ID: 51546234 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 22:08
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yes - jerry lewis - classic funny man.
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192 | kev
ID: 3155515 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 22:39
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I couldnt pass on Randle El. I have a feeling I am going to lose my sleeper though. Congrats to whomever gets him.
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193 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 22:44
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I just want to see who JerryLewis is starting at RB for the first couple of weeks. Should be interesting, to say the least. BTW, I have a queue for beetski (unless he's here).
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194 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 22:48
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OK, I made my pick. I'm solid at KICKER.
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195 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 22:52
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I see my roster is under INTENSE scrutiny. LOL
Hey somebody has to finish last. :)
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196 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 22:55
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True, but it's not usually by design.
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197 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 22:59
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Hey, if anyone wants to leave a que, i'll be up tonight so i can pick it up for you.
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198 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 23:05
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I see BEETSKI took JJ STOKES.
Back when PERM DUDE took MATT HATCHETTE, I was wondering why he didn't just take STOKES.
STOKES is #1 in Jacksonville until Jimmy Smith gets back.
When Smith gets back, HATCHETTE goes to #3 I would think.
That's why I thought it was a horrible pick.
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199 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 23:10
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Is this thing gonna get back to me tonite? I don't want to leave a queue.
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200 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 23:11
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JL, just prerank the rest of the kickers...we'll draft them for you, promise!
;)
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201 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 23:13
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You better get one ASTADE.
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202 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 23:15
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I thought Ron Dugans was a bigger reach than Hatchette.
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203 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 23:18
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Yea, PANCHO. Scratchin my head on that one?
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204 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 23:23
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Be Back in the morning. It won't get back to me tonite.
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205 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 23:24
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leave a queue, just in case!
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206 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 23:24
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I'll check back in a couple hours.
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207 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 23:35
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Dugans is a number 2 for now, and I expect big things from Kitna. So hopefully Kitna performs the way he is capable of.
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208 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 1754479 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 23:37
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JL, I like Stokes, but remember this is a guy who only had one TD last year in 13 games. And with all the injuries in Jacksonville Hatchette will be firmly entrenched by the time Smith comes back.
And Smith, who had a much poorer year last year than the year before, will miss the first quarter of the season. And since he's actually left the team, it's virtually certain it'll take him some time to get back into the game.
pd
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209 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 23:48
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RotoTimes has Dugans listed as the #5 or 6 receiver with C Johnson, Warrick, Houshmanzedeh and rookie Kelley Washington in front of Dugans and Danny Farmer. I think Kitna could have a good year(Seahawks fan, I've seen him do well), but that looks like a big logjam with the Bengal receivers.
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210 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 23:50
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I a Bungles season ticket holder. Dugans is fighting for a roster spot right now.
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211 | holt
ID: 49511818 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 00:17
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Should we make this pick for wiggs or just wait?
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212 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 00:20
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good question; when in doubt do nothing, i guess.
We still have some time before the season starts, since it isn't one of the last rounds, i say we give him the day he is entitled to.
we will still finish on time, no biggie
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213 | holt
ID: 49511818 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 00:20
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here is his quote: "If it gets to my pick and some time goes by with out a pick, i will allow someone to pick for me, please no joke picks, or you can skip me and i will pick when i get a chance." so I guess we should probably allow for a normal amount of time for him to pick.
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214 | holt
ID: 49511818 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 00:21
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yes, agreed astade.
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215 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 00:26
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and if anyone thinks our league is screwed up (which is what i thought after the first 3-4 rounds), check out what is going on in this league . LOL, some gurupies make things so complicated ;)
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216 | holt
ID: 49511818 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 00:47
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I think this has been pretty smooth all things considered. I'm really enjoying this league and I think the deep starting rosters add alot. I declare this to be a good league. We even have the chance to snicker while Jerry Lewis tries to pull off a miracle with his master plan. :)
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217 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 00:49
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for some reason every time i see Jerry Lewis say that he has a 'master plan', I immediately think of Pinky & the Brain.
Jerry Lewis is trying to take over the world...with place kickers
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218 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 01:03
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That league that astade linked us to is so messed up, good thing our league isn't messed :)
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219 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 01:14
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Guys, I think I'm going to call it a night. If it gets to be my pick(s), just get some sleep and be ready to knock out a few rounds tomorrow (today?).
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220 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 07:55
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I sent you a queue KKB, just in case.
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221 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 09:14
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We should probably look at making a pick for wiggs. He's filled in starters at every position except QB and DEF, so it makes sense to pick one of those. Based on who is left, and on the rankings over at FootballDocs.com, I'm thinking of picking NEW ORLEANS DEFENSE for him. Does anyone feel this pick is unreasonable?
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222 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 09:21
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If it comes down to picking for wiggs, how does that work? He obviously needs QBs, and I believe only a Dallas QB is left, and there is no definitive decision on Carter or Hutch there. Beyond them, here is a list of probables: 1. Tim Rattay - Garcia's health is a major concern, but Rattay is hardly battle-tested, might look like a joke pick.
2. Kyle Boller - Highly touted rookie may supplant Redman.
3. Brian Griese - Lots of people call Fiedler a winner, but didn't Miami miss the playoffs last year? Griese a proven commodity and Fiedler injury-prone as well.
4. Marc Bulger - see Brian Griese
5. Tim Couch - ...if Holcombe falters..?
6. Carson Palmer - see Kyle Boller
7. Rodney Peete/Chris Weinke/Jake Delhomme - I guess no Carolina QB has been picked either. Good luck with that mess
8. Danny Wuerffel/Rob Johnson - Will Spurrier pull the plug if Ramsey starts slowly?
If you were wiggs, who would you pick? Hopefully that decision won't have to be made, but we haven't had a pick for almost 10 hours. Hope all is well with your mom-in-law.
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223 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 09:26
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I think it would be NOR (he at least has 1 QB) or Peete (he is the starter). Personally, I would probably take the defense first if I were making the pick. The DAL situation is too crazy to make a solid pick from that, IMHO.
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224 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 09:29
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Looks like Doug Johnson is also available. Who knows how long Vick will be out, and back-up QBs will emerge as injuries come into play.
Peete would be my pick, too, KKB.
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225 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 09:39
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Unless Astade and dgrooves show up, it doesn't make much sense to make wiggs's pick. I have holt's queue, but that would just stop us again at Astade. So, Astade and dgrooves, when you show up, let us know and tell us who you would pick for wiggs (more of a consensus that way). After that, I'll pick for wiggs and holt and we can swing it back around to wiggs (I have holt's queue for next round as well). We'll probably give him a few hours to see if he shows up, then pick for him again.
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226 | Astade
ID: 214361313 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 10:39
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I'm here.
Since wiggs is in the middle of the round I don't see the point in rushing this, honestly. If we do 'swing' it around KKB it just lands up on wiggs again.
It seems like things must be pretty rough for him, and I really don't see the harm in waiting for him. After all, it isn't the 18th or 19th round here. These picks are pretty important in developing a strong set of bench/role players.
I'm really in favor of waiting and if there ends up being a vote on his pick I think teams 1-5 should vote since they have the least to gain. just my 2 cents
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227 | wiggs@inlaws
ID: 191127230 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 10:50
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hey guys, thanks for all the support. I am leaving to go back to the hospital now. Things seem to be a bit better but i will be away most of the day again today, Feel free to pick for me or skip me if needed. Thanks again. wiggs
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228 | Astade
ID: 214361313 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 10:54
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wiggs couldn't you have atleast pointed us in one direction?! QB or D? ;)
hope things are getting better, wiggs
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229 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 11:11
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Astade, you're up. :)
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230 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 11:15
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KKB, I sent a queue for my next pick. Be back tonight.
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231 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 11:20
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JerryLewis, got it.
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232 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 16:27
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Hey guys - I think we should make a pick for Wiggs - he's not gonna be around anytime soon.
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233 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 16:27
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Myboyjack and beetski, raise your hand if you're here. I have a queue for JerryLewis and kev, so if the 2 of you are here, we'll take Peete for wiggs and get things going again.
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234 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 16:29
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Is it possible that we could give him the option to trade any pick we make for him for any player that is still undrafted? Seems fair to me, considering the situation.
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235 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 16:30
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Peete is a good pick. From what I've read he has been declared the starter, for whatever that's worth.
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236 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 16:33
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present
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237 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 16:34
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I'm getting ready to do the PoliGuru draft, so I'll be around anyway and don't mind waiting, btw.
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238 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 16:39
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holt, I think post #234 is very fair and agree he should be given that option. I'm going to go ahead and take Peete for him and then he can have the option to drop him for whoever is left when he comes back later.
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239 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 17:57
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KKB - you have a queue for JL right?
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240 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 17:59
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holt, just got to it. I made picks for JL, kev, and PW. I have queues for PW and kev on the reverse.
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241 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 18:01
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PD should be around soon.
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242 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 18:01
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now we need to find Pancho ...
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243 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 18:03
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he's around too. thery're both in another draft right now.
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244 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 18:03
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Can't wait to see JL's pick. ;)
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245 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 526482422 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 18:54
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I'm up, right? I'll pick, then stick around for about ten more minutes.
pd
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246 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 18:57
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PD I'll pick a few minutes after you, so you can get both in.
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247 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 526482422 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 19:04
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OK. Hope Westbrook comes back!
pd
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248 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 19:16
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I'm here for my next pick if Pat Wright and Kev are around.
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249 | beetski
ID: 9623278 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 19:19
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wow, this is amazing
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250 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 19:19
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DONE. Beetski is up.
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251 | beetski
ID: 9623278 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 19:24
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Back to Wiggs, anyone got a pick
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252 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 19:27
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Looks like best available time. He's got his bases covered.
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253 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 19:48
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Give him a few hours. We've made real good time with this draft, so we can afford to give him a little time to make his own pick, IMO. If he doesn't pick in 2-3 hours, we can look at need again and pick best available.
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254 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 21:48
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Okay, any ideas on "best available" for wiggs? Right now he has the following: QB: 2 WR: 4 RB: 3 + 1 bench TE: 1 + 1 bench K: 1 DEF: 1 I'm thinking it should be a bench player for his empty bench positions. Any ideas?
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255 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 21:51
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KKB, just go with best available.
kev, i am interested in trading for your 15th round pick of Seattle D, are you up for a trade?
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256 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:03
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yeah, I'd say either a QB or WR. The WR's are probably better overall than the QB's. Just my opinion.
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257 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:05
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Anybody disagree with a pick of Steve Smith (CAR) for wiggs? I don't mean to pick 2 CAR players in a row for him, but he looks like the next best pick on most sites that I've looked at. Another option would be Drew Bennett (TEN).
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258 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:07
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Smith is a good pick.
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259 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:09
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Delhomme at QB might be good, since he has Peete, but it wouldn't help him on the bye week. Smith is better trade bait than Delhomme.
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260 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:16
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I think Smith is a reasonable pick at this juncture.
If it's ok w/ everyone else, go for it!
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261 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:17
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Okay, Smith it is. holt, you're up.
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262 | kev
ID: 3155515 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:28
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Perm Dude
Great pick in Westbrook. He was my big sleeper. I really should have pulled the trigger on him, but I didnt for some reason. In this point system, and with Staley's status up in the air, that is a great pick.
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263 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:28
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Staley is back w/ the Eagles
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264 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:31
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OK I'm back - I'll pick here in a sec.
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265 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:37
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before i draft:
can anyone tell me how long it usually takes to recover from a fractured wrist? Pennington just fractured his and will be out, but I don't know whether I should pick up Testaverde or not...
any advice/help would be appreciated
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266 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:40
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I just read that - it's his non-throwing hand right? His left wrist.
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267 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:41
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It's his left(non-throwing) wrist, so he can probably return sooner than if it were his right. My daughter broke her wrist this summer and was in a cast for 6 weeks.
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268 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:41
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Here ya go: He had X-rays at Giants Stadium, which revealed the fracture-dislocation, and was taken to Lenox Hill Hospital in New York for immediate surgery. The Jets do not know how long their starting quarterback will be out, and said Pennington's status would be determined after surgery.
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269 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:42
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holt, I have no idea how that affects his playing time though...I am sure there have been past cases of this happening, but i'm not aware of them. So i was hoping one of you could give me some estimate...i don't want testaverde for one start.
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270 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:43
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It can affect your ability to take a snap and to give hand-offs - that's for sure.
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271 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:48
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6 weeks is a good guess I think.
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272 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:51
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thanks holt, appreciate the help!
I'll try to draft in the next 10 min...
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273 | kev
ID: 3155515 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:58
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Staley is probably still going to be traded...at least that is what Im guessing
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274 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 23:10
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good pick astade - I knew he was going this round.
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275 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 23:12
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thanks holt, let's hope he doesn't get injured this year!
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276 | Pat Wright
ID: 227372322 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 23:37
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I'm sure I have pennington when he gets hurt, that's cheap :(:(
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277 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 23:39
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Pat Wright, if you think you're in a bad situation, consider my co-worker who took Pennington with the first overall pick in our work draft. Obviously, he wasn't #1, or even first round, caliber, but that still hurts a lot.
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278 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 00:08
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Yeah, I think you can probably count that guy out of the running. First round? Must be a jets fan.
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279 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 00:10
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Man, I'd hate to be that guy, mwuhahaha
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280 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 00:11
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So, dgrooves, not around? I guess we're done for the night.
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281 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 00:12
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If dgrooves does show up, we'll be able to make it 5 rounds remaining. I'll be up for a while.
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282 | Astade
ID: 376502816 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 00:14
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we might need 'Discussion Part II' pretty soon.
These 300 posts are taking some time to load.
I'm really happy that this league has so many active managers. I hope it stays this way
I'll be up for another hour or so
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283 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 00:20
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I'll be up. On another note, damn the Expos! I have Vazquez in TSN-ultimate - 3 H and 0 R through 8 but it's still tied in the 9th. I want that W!!!
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284 | Pancho Villa Donor
ID: 533817 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 00:28
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LOL, Holt, me, too. Mussina already put me in a lousy mood, maybe Javier can make me smile.
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285 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 00:46
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Yeah - I had Mussina too. I also had, and don't laugh, Washburn against the tigers. Washburn was great except for 2 frickin' homers by craig "who?" monroe!!! No W for Vazquez but he pitched a gem. I'm still gonna trade him tonight though - don't like his schedule now.
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286 | Pat Wright
ID: 2411414 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 02:33
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Is anyone doing any other yahoo sports?
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287 | holt
ID: 51546234 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 02:54
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I'm in a yahoo baseball rotisserie league (the Bandos mid-season league). TSN Ultimate is my main game - there's some money in it. I guess I'll get in on the TSN football game.
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288 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 08:29
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Pat Wright, are you interested in V. Testaverde?
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289 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 09:06
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For that matter, does anyone have any interest in Testaverde?
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290 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 1754479 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 10:21
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Thanks kev, #262.
I'll be at a game most of the day, but will check in here and there. If I can't get on-line, give me an hour or so before you skip me.
pd
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291 | KrazyKoalaBears Donor
ID: 513102216 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 10:24
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Anybody going to be around for the next 3-4 hours? I have a queue for kev and would like to hand it off just in case his pick comes up.
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292 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 11:02
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I don't think there's gonna be much activity here today. Plus, were gonna get hung up on WIGGS again.
I say everybody just come back tonite and we'll knock out a few rounds.
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293 | wiggs@inlaws
ID: 191127230 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 11:47
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JL, sorry i had a family emergency that i ranked ahead for fantasy football. Go ahead and skip me when it is my pick and i will make my selection this afternoon after i get home fromt he HOSPITAL
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294 | beetski
ID: 9623278 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 12:02
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wiggs what u think of the poicks we made for u?
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295 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 12:11
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WIGGS, I meant no offense. I know you're grandmother is more important. It wasn't a complaint.
I was just saying we should come back tonite. I am gonna be gone all day also. :)
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296 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 12:13
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I guess ASTADE thinks that WARNER is gonna be benched or get hurt this season.
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297 | JerryLewis
ID: 217342015 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 12:33
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KKB, queue sent.
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298 | kev
ID: 3155515 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 12:43
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I will be around today, but KKB also has a short list for my picks.
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299 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 12:54
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New thread
This ones too long
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300 | beetski
ID: 9623278 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 13:07
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Darnm I just wanted to post number 300
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