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Subject: The Hardcore Keeper League: Draft Discussion II
Posted by: APerfect10
- Leader [535572315] Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 01:11
2003 Offseason Discussion
Official League Website
2003 Players List download in MS Excel XP (updated daily)
2003 Draft Discussion I
2003 Draft Thread I (Rounds 1 - 5)
2003 Draft Thread II (Rounds 6 - 10)
**I have archived last years discussion threads. If you need access to them, please contact me.
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1 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 01:12
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The downloadable Excel spreadsheet has been updated.
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2 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 06:39
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i sent my queue to derek, but i dont know if he will be there to get it so i will just post it here because i will be gone most of the afternoon. 1 hearst 2 maddux
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3 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 09:15
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I had mike's queue for round 8 and used wiggs' queue above to make their picks.
I also still have a queue from beebop, but I believe he sent it Derek also.
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4 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 10:24
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Derek, Im going out for a little while so I sent you a queue. I'll post here when I get back, if my turn to pick hasnt come yet.
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5 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 10:30
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Ok...
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6 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 11:38
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I have to run out for 45 min. I'll be back around 12:30 pm EST.
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7 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 11:57
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Thanks Derek. Im back now, so you can delete my queue.
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8 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 12:22
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dgrooves can pick.
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9 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 13:33
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Gotta run out again, I'll be back at 3pm EST
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10 | mike
ID: 57702113 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 14:03
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geez, don't go online for 20 hours and all hell breaks loose :)
anyways I'm up and should be around (still haven't checked out picks yet)
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11 | Bags @ work
ID: 146381416 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 17:02
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Quick question. How many rounds will we be drafting?
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12 | mike
ID: 587402115 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 17:03
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23 I think, for total of 31 players
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13 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 31649212 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 17:16
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That's right mike. Also note the roster maximums at various positions (first post of each draft thread). For example, 4 teams (Bags, mike, wiggs, and Art) are already maxed out at the RB position and thus cannot draft any additional RBs. This is the only position where anyone is currently maxed out.
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14 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 31649212 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 17:17
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Also, I believe dwfffan gets an extra pick at the end of round 12 in compensation for only keeping 7 players... is that correct, Derek?
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15 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 31649212 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 17:21
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And, beebop is back on the clock... Lazio has 2 picks to make when he shows up.
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16 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:07
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dgrooves, you going to be aroud tonight again? :)
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17 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:09
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i need to leave a queue with someone, anyone going to be around
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18 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:27
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i sent a queue to dgrooves, i hope he gets it.
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19 | mike
ID: 587402115 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:27
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I'm outta here for the night. I sent my queue out. have a good one all
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20 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:45
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I'll be around. Ive got a queue for mike and wiggs.
dwfffan has about 20 minutes left on the clock, then Nerf can pick. Also, Lazio still has two picks to make.
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21 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:53
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Yeah, I'm not sure where LAZIO is. When he said yesterday that he was back, I assumed he was back for good. I have no queues for him...
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22 | beebop
ID: 53711916 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 18:58
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Derek, you still got my que??? if you do, can you please take out the QB's......thanx Im gone for a bit, a few hours maybe.
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23 | dwfffan
ID: 197017 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 19:03
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Derek, please use the Queue I sent this afternoon for tomorrow. I will be on the road again and wont have access till tomorrow night at the earliest.
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24 | Bags @ work
ID: 146381416 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 19:09
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I'm here, it is slow tonight so I should make my picks quickly tonight.
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25 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 19:10
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I picked. dwfffan got his pick in just in time.
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26 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 19:39
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dgrooves, sorry for the bombardment of queues :) Now you know what its like to be me ;) Anyways, I sent you 2 dwfffan queues. The 2nd is the accurate/updated one...
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27 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 19:40
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dgrooves, I asked for you to help with queues not steal my picks! Ahh, I was going to draft Holcomb with my last pick but I thought he'd slip through :( Interested in trading :)
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28 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 19:48
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No problem Derek, now Ive got an appreciation for all the work you put in :)
Holcombe was someone I had my eye on for a few picks (Ive got Morgan too). I figured with the number of teams with only one QB, he might not make it to 10.05. I finally guessed right for once.
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29 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:10
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I just used mike's queue to pick 10.03, but I dont have a 10th round queue for wiggs.
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30 | Bags @ work
ID: 146381416 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:54
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Wiggs just took Sharpe, TE DEN. I belive Doug took him already, But I'm not sure in which round.
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31 | Bags @ work
ID: 146381416 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 21:55
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Shannon Sharpe round 3.2
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32 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:07
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sorry, i must have missed that, give me a sec
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33 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:10
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so, what should i do with my skipped picks? can i pick now? i've had a little "fire" problem in my house and couldn't just use a pc......so?
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34 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:12
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IL, i believe you can pick whenever you are ready. hope the fire was contained with little or no damage.
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35 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621 Thu, Aug 21, 2003, 22:30
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no big damages, just a little fear. anyway try to understand that it's a bit difficult to be able to follow the draft with a 6 hours gap.....for example now it's 4:36 a.m. here, so if sometimes i'm a bit late have patience and faith because i'll pick a.s.a.p.!!!
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36 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 06:41
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I just found out my wifes grandmother has a blood clot in her leg and she was rushed to the ER last night, we are heading out of town and i will have computer access, it is just a matter was when and for how long. I do not want to hold the draft up, but i also do not have time to make a queue. If it gets to my pick and some time goes by with out a pick, i will allow someone to pick for me, please no joke picks, or you can skip me and i will pick when i get a chance. I hope this is acceptable for everyone. Thanks guys. wiggs
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37 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 08:29
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Wiggs, I hope your wifes grandmother has a short stay in the hospital and that you get there safely.
I don't have a problem giving Wiggs some extra time when his pick is up. Maybe we could give the draft a break untill he is able to pick. If we need to do a pick for Wiggs maybe we could do a vote for his team. My .02 cents would be for OL or TE. Just a few ideas.
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39 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 10:14
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i corrected my last pick from mushin muhammad to kevin carter, is it allowed? nobody picked after me and nobody has done it yet....
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40 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 11:12
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New Draft Thread (Rounds 11-15)
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41 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 11:14
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Notes Downloadable Excel Spreadsheet has been updated
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42 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 2730280 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 11:41
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In general, I think once you've made your pick you've made your pick and you shouldn't be allowed to change it. I don't know if anybody even noticed Lazio's change (I didn't), but just for future reference, I think it would be a good policy to establish that from here on out, once you type a pick into the draft thread, you can't take it back. I think we can leave Lazio's last pick alone and just make sure everyone is aware of this moving forward.
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43 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 2730280 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 11:47
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I'm down with being a bit flexible with wiggs. In general, I think we're still moving at a decent pace... we've tailed off just a bit from 2.5 rounds per day (finished 9.5 rounds in first 4 days instead of 10)... but we should still be able to complete by the end of next week barring a major slowdown.
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45 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 2730280 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 11:49
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By the way wiggs, hope your wife's grandmama gets well soon!!!!
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46 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 12:09
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LAZIO, I Noticed. I already had put Muhammad on your team on the website. No, what you did was not legal, but we'll let you slide since I didnt post that in the rules and since no one else made a selection...
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47 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 12:10
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Also, I have beebops queue from yesterday. I'm going to let his time expire before making his pick.
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48 | mike
ID: 5742211 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 12:18
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I'm here and ready to pick (haven't fully caught up yet) just thought I'd share
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49 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 12:53
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After further review, I dont feel comfortable making beebops selection with his old queue. His team has new needs and I'll just wait for him to come. He can make his picks up when he gets back...
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50 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 13:30
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I have wiggs queue...
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51 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 14:44
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At 3:00 pm EST dwfffan can pick...
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52 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 14:51
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Dont you have a queue for dwfffan (post 23)?
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53 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 14:52
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AP10 wasn't someone supposed to call Monk and make a pick for him?
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54 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 15:36
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I'm picking in an hour if nobody picks.
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55 | Bags @ work
ID: 146381416 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:23
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AP10 I sent you a queue for my next pick. Thanks!
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56 | beebop
ID: 53711916 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:26
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Im here.......picking soon.
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57 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:38
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shoot...I forgot I have to call Art. Nerf, you can pick in a few min after I call him and make his selection.
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58 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:39
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I picked. 11.8 is on the clock.
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59 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:39
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Art is in a meeting until 5pm EST. I will pick shortly after that time. Nerf, fire away...
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60 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 16:52
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Well this is great...Art left me a 9 digit phone number! Lol...I'm pretty sure every US phone number is 10 digits ;) Later tonight, I will call Art's friend Bossman and see if he has his number. Until then, I guess we will continue the draft...
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61 | mike
ID: 5742211 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 17:07
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damn all you, taking my players :P
I keep getting scooped more then usual this draft. we must all have the same books
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62 | beebop
ID: 53711916 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 17:16
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lol mike.......i dont even have a book...... i just go along, and ill be looking at drafting someone....then oh crap, i forgot i needed a kicker.....lol
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63 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 17:33
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Have you checked if the number spells 'ARTOFMONK'? :)
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64 | beebop
ID: 53711916 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 18:04
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Left a que with derek. Im off to work soon.
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65 | mike
ID: 387192216 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 18:07
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I'm sending my queue off for my next pick now. out for the night. see you tomorrow
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66 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 19:24
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I'm going out for the night with my girlfriend. I think we might as well put the draft on SUSPEND for the night. I have a gazillion queues, wiggs isnt around, cant get ahold of Art, and I wont be here either. If picks get made, great, if they dont, there is no time limit. The clock will resume tomorrow morning at 9am EST.
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67 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Fri, Aug 22, 2003, 21:47
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Thanks to Bossman, I was able to piece together Art of Monks phone number and get in contact with him...
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68 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 07:09
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i've a little request, if it's not a problem: it regards the list at the top of the draft thread containing all the picks team by team. can we make it by positions instead that by contract years? it would help a lot if you've to control your choices......thanks!!!!
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69 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 08:57
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LAZIO, You can view that information on the league website. Click on each teams helmet and it gives you a position-by-position breakdown.
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70 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 49728219 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 09:00
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i knew, i just wanted to say that it would be easier and faster if we could have it on the top of the drafting thread......
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71 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 09:18
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Downloadable Excel Spreadsheet has been updated.
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72 | wiggs@inlaws
ID: 191127230 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 10:52
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hey guys, thanks for all the support. I am leaving to go back to the hospital now. Things seem to be a bit better but i will be away most of the day again today, Feel free to pick for me or skip me if needed. Derek, i dont know if any one is left in my queue, i dont have time to really go through this thing right now. I trust your judgement. Thanks again. wiggs
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73 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 12:51
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I'm not sure where everyone is. I currently have 0 queues...beebop is on the clock. Nerf & dwfffan can pick when they get back.
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74 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 12:59
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AP10, if your feeling lonely I can send you a queue. ;)
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75 | mike
ID: 477122313 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 14:17
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I'm here but I'm not picking for a bit, hehe
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76 | IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
ID: 221441621 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 14:35
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i just picked because beebop's time expired, or so i thought......did i do the right thing?
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77 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 14:49
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Yeah...you could pick.
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78 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 14:53
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dwfffan is on the clock
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79 | Nerfherders
ID: 43818813 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 15:22
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I was asleep! It's Saturday! Not all of us are on Eastern time remember :)
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80 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 15:45
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Your clock ran out at 12:45. The day is almost over!
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81 | beebop
ID: 53711916 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 16:47
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What about my que from yesterday????
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82 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 2730280 Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 18:22
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13.5 Art of Monk - time expired 13.6 dwfffan - you're up... time expires 7:50pm EST
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83 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 00:12
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Who's pick will it be in the morning, I lost track?
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84 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 2730280 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 00:52
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13.7 Nerfherders - picked at 20:46 13.8 dgrooves - expired at 22:16, can pick anytime 13.9 wiggs - expired at 23:46, can pick anytime 13.10 Mike - currently up, expires at 10:16 EST 13.11 Bags - on deck
There is at least one other "makeup" pick to be made (prior to 13.7)
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85 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 01:03
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God please help our draft...
I'm picking for wiggs and I'm using Mike's old queue...
dwfffan has missed 3 picks in the last 2 rounds.
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86 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 01:05
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Bags is on the clock starting at 9am EST Sunday morning
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87 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 01:27
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I should check back in at 10am EST. I hope Ike left a queue with AP10.
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88 | Art of Monk
ID: 127392513 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 02:03
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Sorry that I held up the draft with the phone number problem and today my flight only got delayed 3.5 hrs. I should have called ap10 but phone also went dead after 2hrs. in the airport.
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89 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 08:11
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Art, Bags picked Miami OL at 9.11, so your 13.05 pick is invalid.
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90 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 2730280 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 11:07
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dwf, Kevin Johnson was taken by beebop at 12.9
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91 | dwfffan
ID: 11749167 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 11:41
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OK, I shall fix it then.
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92 | mike
ID: 527112411 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 12:30
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I'm back all. thanks Derek for using the old queue. I would of sent a queue but thought I'd get online before my pick.
now I just want to know why 2 years in a row, I draft someone and then they get hurt that week. oh the joys of preseason :)
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93 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 15:57
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Well we seem to have hit a wall; 0 picks in 4 hours. Nerf and dwfffan have timed out and Art's got about a half hour left.
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94 | mike
ID: 557272413 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 16:23
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I'm not too worried. we still have a week and a half to go. it is sunday.
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95 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 16:31
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hey guys, i am back in town. Thank you so much for all your help with my team and your understanding. I really do appriciate everything.
My wife grandmother seems to be doing ok, she has alot of swelling, but the immediate danger is in the past, atleast lets hope so. again, thank you.
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96 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 16:35
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Art Detroit ST was already taken by Doug with the 6-11 pick.
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97 | mike
ID: 557272413 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 16:59
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welcome back wiggs. good to hear things seem ok.
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98 | mike
ID: 557272413 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 17:33
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alright I'm outta here for the day. I sent a queue off. have a good one all
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99 | Nerfherders
ID: 43818813 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:37
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I was at all three games of the Rockies-Braves this weekend. I left a queue last night I wonder why it wasnt used for my round 14 pick? Oh well, I picked.
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100 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:41
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When your queue was left, I was under the assumption if was for your next pick since you were going to be at the game Saturday night. You never mentioned anything about Sunday. After your pick was made your queue was deleted for obvious reasons...
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101 | beebop
ID: 53711916 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 03:27
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Havent checked yet....gonna pick soon if i need to...... We had a massive storm and have had power outages.....sorry for the hold up.
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102 | dgrooves
ID: 444581317 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 09:02
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Can someone please explain to me why beebop has picked three players with his 13.04 pick?
He picked Donovin Darius, DB Jac at about 5pm on Saturday. Then he picked Aaron Schobel, DL Buf at 4am today, but wiggs had already picked him. Then he picked Peter Boulware, LB Bal at 4:30.
What was wrong with the Darius pick?
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103 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 09:47
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No. Beebops 13.4 selection is Darius. Boulware is still available....he must've forgot he picked Darius???
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104 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 09:55
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Doug's time expired at 11:10pm EST last night... LAZIO's time expired at 9:40pm EST today... (These selections can be made whenever they return)
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105 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 11:09
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Yay for Beebop thoroughly confusing me!
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106 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 12:01
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dwfffan has timed out, Nerf you are up.
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107 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 12:10
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Great job Nerf!
dgrooves your up.
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108 | mike
ID: 53742512 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 13:07
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hey all, I'm here so I can pick
but what about schobel, is he available then?
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109 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 14:11
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Did Wiggs send in a gueue? His time is about to expire.
Mike are you ready?
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110 | mike
ID: 53742512 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 14:24
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I've already picked, but still wondering about my question :)
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111 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 14:36
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Mike, are you asking about Aaron Schobel,DL BUF? He was taken 13-9 by Wiggs.
Or do you mean Matt Schobel, TE CIN? He has not been taken yet.
Ike is up.
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112 | mike
ID: 53742512 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 14:38
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k thanks for clarifying. the whole aaron schobel thing confused me. confusion gone now
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113 | Bags
ID: 217221719 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 14:59
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I wanted to get my next pick in before I left for work, doesn't look like it will happen.
I am sending a queue to AP10.
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114 | beebop
ID: 53711916 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 15:05
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Sorry.....i thought we had gone through 2 rounds since id last seen it......lol.......the third one was coz id seen the second one was taken.
oh well, i tried ;)
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115 | wiggs Donor
ID: 27735145 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 15:57
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bags, i see your post that my time is almost up, but i dont think it is my pick is it?
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116 | Nerfherders
ID: 308512415 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 16:14
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Who's pick is it? 15.12?
I'm so confused!
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117 | beebop
ID: 53711916 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 16:18
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lol....no idea nerf, sorry
Derek, can you just keep using that last que i sent you please?? Thanx. im off
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118 | Doug Sustainer
ID: 31649212 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 16:37
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Pick 15.12 (Ike) expired at 15:58. Pick 16.1 (Ike?) is up and expires at 17:28. Pick 16.2 (Bags?) will be up thereafter. I am unsure on who owns 16.1 and 16.2 because I don't know if they were traded or not. There should be a new thread created for rounds 16-20 (or even 16-23 if people don't mind the length).
HTH!
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119 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 17:26
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New Draft Thread (Rounds 16-20)
Bags is on the clock.
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120 | mike
ID: 147382516 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 17:41
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bags sent a queue he said in 113
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121 | ART of MONK
ID: 13530917 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 17:47
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I like the new spread sheet. Does anyone else think we should start another discussion thread?
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122 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 17:48
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I'll get the new thread started in a sec.
Mike's up...
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123 | APerfect10 Leader
ID: 535572315 Mon, Aug 25, 2003, 17:51
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New Discussion Thread
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