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Posted by: Stuck at Work
- [517162314] Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 15:21

New thread for new draft
1Stuck at Work
      ID: 517162314
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 15:23
Sorry about all this. I'm for some reason unable to delete the old thread. So we can just use this one for the new draft --- beginning with pick 1.1.

Never been through something like this and hope never to repeat it.

Don
2Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 15:29
ok. Well, Wiggs did say in a previous thread that if we had to start all over, he still wanted Ricky Williams at 1.1 - so i say we post it, then go to Wazzup...

peace,
Tree
4Stuck at Work
      ID: 517162314
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 16:10
DS
Please blow it as far away as possible

Don
6Stuck at Work
      ID: 517162314
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 17:14
Wazzup, you're up.

Don
7revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 17:17
Don, are you going to post Wiggs pick of Ricky Williams so Wazzup realizes that he can pick??
8revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 17:18
and I see my answer:)
9Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 17:26
amen. :o) LOL
10 Taxman
      Leader
      ID: 46548912
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 17:36
Hmmmmmm. I've been out all day and apparently I have missed something. I see a noticeable absence of my first two draft picks. Anyone want to fill me in? Can do by e-mail if privacy is a concern.
11Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 17:39
Taxman - basically, there was a lot of confusion with the whole Revving Parson/Species situation, that the whole draft got thrown out, so we started over.

it's a much longer story than that. lol

peace,
Tree
12Taxman
      Leader
      ID: 46548912
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 17:40
By the way...TREE, please dump the que I sent you (all my devious master draft planning disclosed to my arch competitor :>) as now that I am back I will choose the players I really wanted to begin with. But thanks for offering to take the que if it was needed.

So, like, if I don't truly like who I pick in this version of the GG draft, can I call a do-over?
13Stuck for Wiggs
      ID: 517162314
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 17:40
Actually, Tax, I deleted the entire discussion thread in order to cover our tracks!
14Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 17:42
Tax - the only pick of yours i remember was the first one on the list (next time you send a queue, space down about 800 spaces so your pick doesn't pop up first thing), and that is not a pick i'd make as early as you would, so you have nothing to worry about..lol

peace,
Tree
15Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 18:21
anyone know where WG is? man, we were sooooooo close to having this thing flying!

peace,
Tree
16Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 19:10
I just sent him an EMail. HOpefully, he's home.

Don
17Taxman
      Leader
      ID: 337282120
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 19:10
Stuck

Would it be possible to restate the draft order using Gurupie board names instead of team names. I am old, feeble and have limited brain power. i am not able to associate abstract team names with Gurupie names unless the team name includes the Gurupie name.

Thanks bunches if you do so.
18Species
      Sustainer
      ID: 7724916
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 19:33
Dang guys, I didn't realize what I viewed as such a no-brainer, easy solution would cause any problems......my apologies then because apparently it did. I can't fathom how letting him just take his team back was a difficult thing.

Sorry guys.
19 revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 19:47
Someone please e-mail when my turn comes up, the race is starting.
20Stuck for Wiggs
      ID: 517162314
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 19:55
Not to worry, Species. Your help was greatly appreciated and I don't think any of us could have anticipated what came next.

Don

At any rate, our original date was tomorrow at 8 p.m. ET, so I'm sure we'll hear from WG by then.

21Stuck at Work
      ID: 517162314
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 20:35
EMail sent

don
22Taxman
      Leader
      ID: 337282120
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 20:49
Per 17 above: What are Gurupie board names for folowing:

Pick 3 = PurpleCheese 550
Pick 6 = SamoaJoe 483
Pick 7 = MadRiver 469
Pick 9 = Fantasy Thugs 405
23Taxman
      Leader
      ID: 337282120
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 20:50
I'm off for an hour or so
24Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 20:50
Samoa Joe is me...Fantasy Thugs is TarHeelKid (THK)..
25revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 20:52
I'm purplecheesehead
26Stuck at Work
      ID: 517162314
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 20:58
Pick 3 Purple Cheese = Revving Parson
Pick 6 SamoaJoe 483= Tree (I think)
Pick 7 MadRiver469= Not sure
Pick 9 Fantasy Thugs=Tarheel Kid
27TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 21:18
We could redo the draft order! haha, that would mix things up! haha, just kidding of course...

THK
28Rand
      Donor
      ID: 364152215
      Sat, Aug 23, 2003, 22:08
#7 Mad River Rage=Rand
29deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 07:57
I'll be here, TSN DnT, or the Political draft all day. I must be crazy! lol
30Rand
      Donor
      ID: 364152215
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 08:29
Sounds like the perfect day:)
31Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 09:06
well, i'm here until about 1ish eastern, and then i'll be back in time for 8 pm. eastern...err, that is what time we're starting, right?
32deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 09:20
I've got a queue for Taxman's first pick when he comes up. IM me at "deepsnappe" or Yahoo "deepsnapper".
33deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 10:13
FYI "live draft" times are open right now:

8-25: 6-9am 9-noon 12-3pm 3-6pm

8-26: 6-9am 9-noon 12-3pm 3-6pm 6-9pm

8-27: 6-9am 9-noon 12-3pm 3-6pm 6-9pm

8-28: 6-9am 9-noon 12-3pm 3-6pm6-9pm

8-29: 6-9am 9-noon 12-3pm 3-6pm 6-9pm

8-30: 6-9am 9-noon 12-3pm 3-6pm6-9pm

9-01: 6-9am 9-noon 12-3pm 3-6pm6-9pm

9-02: 6-9am 9-noon 12-3pm 3-6pm 6-9pm

9-03: 6-9am 9-noon 12-3pm 3-6pm 6-9pm

September 4: Season Begins

I would get killed for drafting on the 1st (parents anniversary), but any other time is ok if that's what is decided. I ppsted these for discussion as I didn't know if anyone (including myself) knew the dates available) if we wanted to fast live.
34Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 10:19
not sure what time zones those are, but anything that begins before 8 p.m. eastern is not possible for me during the week.

additionally, i've already got live drafts on 8/25 and 8/27, so those times are out. and 8/26 my girlfriend is back from being out of time, so i'm hanging out with her that night.

and next weekend *is* labor day weekend.

these are actually fairly small rosters - 15 rounds i believe, so i think with patience, we can get this done by next weekend.

peace,
Tree
35Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 11:31
Like Tree, those early times are out for me, even though I'm in the Central time zone. I work nights and am usually sleeping.

But I thought we'd all committed to being here tonight at 8 p.m. ET to complete the draft (or as much of it as possible) in a couple of hours.

If we hold to that, I don't think there'll be too much of a problem. And I like the idea of a late (in time of year) draft to avoid picking Vick or Pennington early --- to name just a few.

And so, where's Promize? He's on the clock which, incidentally will officially start at 8 p.m. Any thoughts on a time limit for picks?

Don
36Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 11:36
quite frankly, if we're all committed to being here at 8 p.m., which we've talked about for eons, i'd say a 15-minute MAX time limit - that allows the possibility of working out trades and such.

having said that, i also wanna pitch an idea for:

1. if you miss your pick, and you didn't leave a queue with active guys on it, sucks for you. you get skipped. when you return, you can make up your pick(s) AFTER the person currently on the clock.

2. ending the draft at 11 p.m. eastern

peace,
Tree
37Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 12:47
anyone here i can leave a two-man queue for? if promize shows up, i'd at least like to not hold up the draft, since i'll be gone until 6 p.m. eastern, give or take..
38Taxman
      Leader
      ID: 337282120
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 12:59
Deepsnapper, I am back for about 3 hours, then gone again until about 8 central for the draft (about an hour late). I will send you more of a que later. Thanks for watching/holding for me.
39Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 13:09
leaving in 5 minutes. does anyone want my queue?
40 Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 13:15
I'll take it, Tree
41Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 13:17
sent. it's a fairly simple and obvious one.

peace,
Tree
42Stuck for Tree
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 13:42
Anyone know Rand's schedule?

Don
43Taxman
      Leader
      ID: 337282120
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 14:14
Don (Stuck);

You are up in TSN draft
44Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 15:08
Anyone have EMail for THK (Fantasy Thugs)?

Don
45revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 15:25
I will need to leave a queue for roughly the first 1/2 hour or so tonight.

Anyone available?
46 Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 15:26
Always for you, Rev

Don
47deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 16:22
Anyone got a queue for THK? I've got his second round pick from the prior thingy, but I don't remember what his first round pick was or if he's even still out there for that matter. I know THK was doing community service yesterday. Any suggestions?
48deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 16:24
I sent THK an email advising him of the sit-rep.

Donny - gotcha covered.
49Taxman
      Leader
      ID: 337282120
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 16:27
I'll be back @ 7-8 CST Thanks for the cover
50deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 17:05
I don't remember what THK's schedule was going to be today. I hope he isn't kissing his car and polishing his girlfriend. ;-)

I posted the live draft times for my own curiosity as much as anything else. FFR - Yahoo time is always Pacific. (dang left coasters.)

I'll be here at 7:00PM CDT. Guess I'll go polish the wifey or kiss the dog. ;-)

51Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 17:26
i just got home...THK's AIM name is DSW827 - i just told him he's up...
52deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 17:30
Thanks Tree, I had it, I just hadn't seen him come online, saw you though ;-)

PD picked in the Pol. draft
53Rand
      Donor
      ID: 83231216
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 17:31
Hey guys, don't worry about me, I'll be checking in quite often tonight. Just got back from my daughters soccer game. Tied 1-1 after reg. play, the overtime went on so long that they started reducing the number of players. By the end there was only 3 players on each team (with no goalies). Super nail-biter, but we ended up winning...next stop is the Championship!
54TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 17:33
Sorry guys...just made my pick. I am going golfing in an hour but will be leaving a queue for rounds 3 and 4, and should be back around 7:30 or 8....

THK
55TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 17:34
I ref kid soccer! ;-)

THK
56 wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 27735145
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 17:41
I should be around the rest of the day if anyone wants to send a queue my way.
57TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 42109719
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 18:14
I gave Tree instructions if I come up in draft...

I am going to go play a little golf...

405-401-3026

THK
58Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 18:25
i'm in for the rest of the night, save for my dog having to inevitably having to go out again at some point.

if i'm up, and i'm non-responsive, AIM me at Treesham01 (that's zero-one), because it means i'm washing dishes or some such nonsense.

peace,
Tree
59Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 18:26
ya know don, i bitch and bitch and bitch about having the draft restart, then seem happy it's going relatively the same, and then you steal my pick. you bitch. :o) lol
60wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 27735145
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 18:26
i may be going to watch the wwe ppv tonight, but i will have my cell phone with me. Would anyone here be willing to call my cell when it is my pick to let me know who has been taken and post my picks? If not, i will stick around. Fortunately i will be picking at the end and that means 2 picks in a row then a while without one. Any help would be appriciated. Thanks.
wiggs
61 Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 18:29
wiggs - EMAIL it to me....in the subject line, tell me which draft it is...lol...and i expect an update on SummerSlam.
62Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 18:33
Oh well, Tree, if ya gotta bitch about a pick that far down the line ......

Don
63Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 18:36
nah, i was kind of just looking for something to bitch about. hehe
65revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 18:47
Guys I'm having email server problems and unable to send out queue. Oh what a day!!!!;)
66Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 18:52
Rev:

Call me at 956-412-1855

Don
67Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 18:54
see Rev, this is what happens when you let them race Saturday night instead of sunday afternoon!
68 Rand/MadRiverRage
      Donor
      ID: 364152215
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:13
feel free to email me, if need be. Chances are
I'll be checking this board more than my email,
but...
69Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:14
well, either way, we start the draft in about 45 minute Rand...whether you're here or not. LOL
70wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 27735145
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:34
i sent don a queue with 10 players, that should be good through pick 3.1 then tree has my cell phone number to give me a call when i get up for 4.10.
71Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:37
go Dudleyz!
72Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:40
Did someone have a queue for Taxman? He's up and my eyes are getting bleary re-reading the posts.

Don
73Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:45
Also, with the official start of the draft just 15 minutes away, we have not decided how long to allow for picks. I've heard 30 and 15 minutes, respectively. Can we have a quick choice among those? I favor 15 since we're all supposed to be here and if someone fails to leave a queue, he can jump in whenever he returns, then go back to his original spot.

Don
74Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:46
15, with the guy who missed his pick jumping in AFTER the guy on the clock picks.
75deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:48
I posted Taxman's 2nd round pick.
76Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:53
OK, it's a little scary that almost no one has responded to the time limit, so let's make it 15 minutes and let the cow chips fall where they may.

Don
77Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:54
Rand will have until 10 past this way.

don
78Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:55
We're on track!!!!
79Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:57
Promize is up.
80Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 19:59
i figure since we said 8 p.m. eastern, promize has until 8:15.
81Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:01
Exactly
But let's make sure for anyone who's late that there's not a queue floating around someplace

Don
82Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:04
and when we go looking for Wiggs, someone remind me i have his celly..
83Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:05
I have a queue for Wiggs

Don
84deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:14
dang it I'm grilling steaks!
85Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:14
Promize - you picked someone who went TWO picks before your pick. please repick.
86Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:16
and this Don, is where you have to make a commissioner decision, especially if Promize has split already - he made a pick, but it's an illegal pick. and his 15 minutes is about up.
87Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:16
and DS, please bring me a steak. i live in Queens. thanks.
88deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:17
2.6 is invalid - TO was selected at 2.4 by Rand. lmao.
89revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:19
I'm in and should be most of the night now.

I found the problem with my email, now I just have to fix it;)

Doug
90Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:19
he made the pick over 10 minutes ago, and he wasn't paying attention to the draft, and he doesn't appear to be paying attention now.

i vote for his 15 minutes being up.
91Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:20
parson, knowing is half the battle. ;o)
92Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:20
OK, promize has three more minutes to get back and fix it or he falls through the cracks.

Don
93Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:21
DS around? It'd be his pick, I think

Don
94deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:23
Taxman's tardiness was my fault, I was prepping the grill before it rained here in Dallas. Didn't want to be holding a spatula when the lightening started. ;-0
95revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:23
Yea he's grilling us all steaks:)
96Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:23
looks like the Grillmaster is up...steak away!
97deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:24
I35E - Exit@ Vista Ridge Mall and go 5 miles to the Flower Mound City limits sign, turn right and follow your nose.
98Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:25
Draft on, brother Snapper

Don
99Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:25
i like mine rare, so pick quick and pull that sucker off the grill!
100deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:25
otay
101revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:30
Wazzups up
102Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:31
Promize: When you show up, please delete the thread where you picked TO and substitute someone else.

Don
103Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:37
anyone have Wazzup's info? his time is quickly ticking away...
104Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:41
I just sent him an EMail
Don
105Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:45
Wiggs is now on the clock. I have his queue and will make his two picks.

Don
106revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:45
I note that Wazzup hasn't checked in the last 24 hours in our discussion thread.

Question if someone is misses their 15 min time limit what happens the second time around with no pick having been made? SKIP automatically?

Doug
107Taxman
      Leader
      ID: 337282120
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:47
Back from steaks at the Flower Mound Bistro. And thanks for the baby sitting Deep Snapper, I will take it from here.
108Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:48
Rev, I don't know. But Waazup is up again and has just 15 minutes to show.
We stand a real possibility of losing a team over this. But at least we're a points league.

Don
109Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:50
i would hate to lose a team, but tonight was clearly chosen as the draft time. i wonder if we oughta do something where at the end of each round where someone has missed two picks, we go in and fill in the blanks with the best available players.
110Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:51
The other thing is .... if 2 or 3 picks are missed, does a manager just get to take 3 as soon as he shows up? I don't think we've addressed that.

Don
111revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:52
I agree with Tree at the end of the round give them the best available pick.
112Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:53
Right but if they're owed, say, 3 picks?

Don
113Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:54
Waaazup

Good to see you. You have picks to make here.

Don
114Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:54
but WG is now here! go go go! two picks for him i say!
115Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 20:54
Works for me
116deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:00
ok, who's on the clock now? i'm confused and I've got a ribeye getting cold
117Promize
      Sustainer
      ID: 6757148
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:01
HOLDDDDDDDDDDDDD on...

I goofed up on my pick and then you all went ahead at picking? Thats screwed up.........
118Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:01
Parson is on the clock, then you.
119Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:04
Promize, we've talked about this. a 15-minute limit and it probably makes sense to check the board before you leave. The reason we allocated this time was so that we could do the draft in as little time as possible.

But if you read the discussion thread, you can see what's going on.

Don
120Promize
      Sustainer
      ID: 6757148
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:04
Well delete my spot on the league, im not gonna lose a pick ... cause im made a simple mistake...

Thats freakin stupid...
121revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:05
I believe the reason was that you picked at 20:03 and we waited 15 minutes for you to return and adjust your pick.
122Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:06
Sorry you feel that way, Promize.

Now... what do we do about the Priest?

Don
123Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:06
Promize - if it were the 15th round or something, there would be more sympathy for ya.

but it's the second round, and it was TWO picks before yours.

we gave you every benefit of the doubt. we gave you extra time. we tried to post and let you know, but you decided not to stick around. i checked the Yahoo site for your email address, and yours is the only one not published.

it's early enough that you can catch up - should we have sat here all night and not drafted because of your mistake?
124Promize
      Sustainer
      ID: 6757148
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:06
Welp, like I said two days ago, if the commish would place players on their teams as we pick then we wouldn't make mistakes...

And im not gonna compete in a league that a simple error doesn't get fixed... Especially this early in the draft...

It is not worth it to me...
125Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:07
Promize - it's not someone else's fault you made a mistake. it's YOUR fault. you should keep track of these things. man, didn't you even look at the posts ahead of you?
126Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:08
and deepsnapper, make your pick and then go eat. LOL
127Promize
      Sustainer
      ID: 6757148
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:08
It is early in the draft...
Explain to me why it can't be fixed?

And show me were the rules of the league said if you made a mistake it won't be fix
128Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:08
I repeat, what about Priest?


Don
129Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:09
Promize it can be fixed. make some picks!
130Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:09
Promize,

We're not playing for money here and there's no subscription fee. It's a bunch of friends (I thought)but we HAVE to have rules.


Don
131Promize
      Sustainer
      ID: 6757148
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:09
Good grief... How pathetic...
132Promize
      Sustainer
      ID: 6757148
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:11
Yes, I thought we was playing among friends also... So you would think "Friends" would realize an error... I didn't know I made a mistake and had to do some work afk... So when I came back I saw my player deleted...

133Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:11
if Promize acts like a man here, accepts he made a mistake, and makes some picks right now, then he keeps Priest.

if Promize decides that he's more important than everyone else, and walks, then what we do with Priest is a good question - honestly, the only fair thing i could see doing would be to give him to me...err...i mean make him ineligible for the league or maybe do one of those randomizer dice things again for anyone who wants him, and the highest roll gets him.
134Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:12
promize - we're in the middle of a draft that was decided upon quite some time ago - did you leave a queue or any method of contact when you split?

we should still be drafting while this goes on, and if promize wants to lose more players, so be it. DeepSteaker?
135Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:13
I hope Promize decides to stick it out.

But, if not, I like making Priest ineligible. It's only one player and it's the only fair thing that occurs to me. The randomizer is too much like a lottery and would give the winner too big an edge.

Don
136Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:13
Yeah, DS, let's get this going again.

Don
137Promize
      Sustainer
      ID: 6757148
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:14
Tree, some of us have a real life, I had a problem in my household that I had to fix...

You can ask many people on these boards that im good person and I attend all drafts ... I also run a couple leagues... If I made a mistake, then I had a real life issue to deal with....

So considering we just started the draft, I don't see a problem why it couldn't be fixed...
138Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:14
thanks Don - as much as i disagreed with your decision yesterday, it is nice to have a commish who makes decisions and stands by them.
139Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:15
Promize - no one is telling you to leave. we're all sitting here telling you to pick!
140Promize
      Sustainer
      ID: 6757148
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:16
Oh well, ill pick, but glad the group of friends im playing with are to worried about a few picks and not making things fair...

Anyways, pick aways ill make my two picks when the time comes.
141revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:16
Promize-everyone has left the ability to be gotten ahold of, except you.

Everyone seems to have either committed to tonight or left queues to help keep things flowing.

This is why it is vital that when we pick we double check. AND DO NOT LEAVE THE BUILDING RIGHT AWAY!!

Deepsnapper have you swallowed that steak yet?:)
142Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:16
Good deal, Promize, now Priest gets to stay in the game!!!!

Don
143Promize
      Sustainer
      ID: 6757148
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:16
By the way, its been 15 minutes on Deepsnapper, so does that mean I can pick?
144revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:18
I believe the answer is yes.
145Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:19
although i think it's just one pick, correct?
146Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:20
promize's make up pick, then DS, then promize's regular pick.
147deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:21
so I am up?
148deepsnapper
      Sustainer
      ID: 17103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:21
this is getting to be bs
149Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:22
DS should be up now.

Don
150wazaaap_guy
      ID: 217552410
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:22
hey, im mad as hell i missed out on randy moss but what can you do.
151Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:22
DS - please amigo - make your pick now, and we're back on track.

we have 1.5 hours more to go. please, everyone stick around and we can bang a lot of this out.
152Promize
      Sustainer
      ID: 6757148
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:22
From my understanding of the "rules", you had 15 minutes to pick, so I picked.

Sorry Deep, I agree with you, but im following "the rules"
153revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:24
I'm beginning to feel like I'm inside the steel cage:)
154Promize
      Sustainer
      ID: 6757148
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:24
Reference #141

Sixties had my email, I don't see anything in my email that said I made a mistake and had to repick either.
155revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:26
I believe Tree is on the clock.
156Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:26
Thanks, DS


Promize,

I sent you an EMail quite a while ago. Check your mail.

Don
157revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:27
If so I apologize promize.

Doug
158Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:28
picked. Rand is on the clock.
159Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:28
I'm starting to get that steel cage feeling myself, Rev. This was supposed to be an enjoyable experience just like the 30 or 40 I've participated in before it.

Let's see if we can get through this because I'm getting close to pulling the plug.

Don
160revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:32
Don't get discouraged I think we've worked through the hiccup, and things will go smoothly from here. I hope:)
161Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:32
Don - i agree with you. definitely been trying. and i'm sure i'm part of the problem with my surly attitude. :o)

but i think we're back on track now, and what has gone on has gone on and is in the past, and if you look at the rosters, there is not a bad squad in the bunch.

162Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:33
Wiggs       Wazzup       R. Parson      
Pick - Round Overall Pick Player Position Pick - Round Overall Pick Player Position Pick - Round Overall Pick Player Position
2.10 18 P. Manning QB       QB       QB
1.1 1 R. Williams RB 1.2 2 L. Tomlinson RB 1.3 3 M. Faulk RB
      RB 2.9 20 C. Dillon RB 2.8 17 S. Davis RB
3.1 19 R. Moss WR       WR 3.3 22 T. Barber WR
      WR       WR       WR
      WR       WR       WR
      TE 3.2 21 J. Shockey TE       TE
      K       K       K
      Def       Def       Def
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
                       
DeepSnapper       Promize       Samoa Joe   Tree  
Pick - Round Overall Pick Player Position Pick - Round Overall Pick Player Position Pick - Round Overall Pick Player Position
      QB 2.6 23 K. Warner QB 1.6 6 D. McNabb QB
1.4 4 C. Portis RB 1.5 5 P. Holmes RB 2.5 15 A. Green RB
2.7 16 J. Lewis RB 3.5 24 C. Martin RB 3.6 26 F. Taylor RB
3.4 25 E. Moulds WR       WR       WR
      WR       WR       WR
      WR       WR       WR
      TE       TE       TE
      K       K       K
      Def       Def       Def
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
                       
MadRiver   Rand   Taxman       Fantasy Thugs      
Pick - Round Overall Pick Player Position Pick - Round Overall Pick Player Position Pick - Round Overall Pick Player Position
      QB       QB 1.9 9 D. Culpepper QB
1.7 7 D. McAllister RB 1.8 8 S. Alexander RB 2.2 12 T. Henry RB
      RB       RB       RB
2.4 14 T. Owens WR 2.3 13 M. Harrison WR       WR
      WR       WR       WR
      WR       WR       WR
      TE       TE       TE
      K       K       K
      Def       Def       Def
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
      Bench       Bench       Bench
                       
Sixties      
Pick - Round Overall Pick Player Position
      QB
1.10 10 E. James RB
2.1 11 W. Green RB
      WR
      WR
      WR
      TE
      K
      Def
      Bench
      Bench
      Bench
      Bench
      Bench
      Bench
163revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:34
Taxman is up

Thanks Tree nice chart.
164Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:35
Thanks Parson.

i'll try to remember to post it at the end of each round.
165revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:36
Tree is that a promotion or demotion for T. Barber? :) In fact he may demand more $$ for having to play two positions.
166Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:36
WTG, Tree, you know the way to my fantasy heart!!

Don
167Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:38
LOL to both of y'all...

rev - i think that was my frustration in being convinced that Barber would fall to me, only to have some chowderhead take THREE RBs in the first three rounds.

and yes don, charts with pretty colors rule!
168Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:43
is taxman here? if not, i have the queue he sent me yesterday, for the third round and on, for the draft we voided.

if he doesnt show before his time is up, we might be able to use that, no?
169Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:43
because his time is up in 2 minutes - make the call Don.
171Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:47
actually, as of your post Promize, it's exactly 15 minutes. i'm just waiting for the commish to say pass him, or use the old queue.
172Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:47
We need to proceed. Let's get this draft moving again. I think using the old queue makes sense

Don
173Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:48
alright. lemme go get it. will post in a sec.
174wazaaap_guy
      ID: 217552410
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:49
can i leave a queue with someone at the bottom of the draft. i am driving home soon and so will prob miss a couple rounds in between.
175Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:50
THK is on the clock. if he doesnt post in a minute or two, i'll call him. i have his number.
176 revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:51
Feel free
177wazaaap_guy
      ID: 217552410
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:53
i was hoping for one of the guys at the absolute bottom, so that way i can send it to them after they make their 3rd and 4th picks.
178Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:54
i just called him - got his voice mail. he's still on the clock.
179Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:56
THK has until 5 after the hour, I believe

Don
180wazaaap_guy
      ID: 217552410
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:57
anyone? please
181 Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 21:59
Leave me a queue, Waaz

Don
182Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 22:00
THK just IMed me. i told him to pick.
183Taxman
      Leader
      ID: 337282120
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 22:10
Tree see post 12 Where I canceled that que. I will draft late if necessary, But I will draft.

Thanks
184Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 22:11
Since Ward not taken, it's not a problem. Miami is back on the board

Don
185Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 22:11
i saw that Tax, but we didn't want you getting skipped. from now on, you get skipped! bwahahahahahahaha :o)
186revvingparson
      ID: 38511169
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 22:13
THK didn't leave the building did he?
187Taxman
      Leader
      ID: 337282120
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 22:14
Thanks for thinking of me Tree. I know this has been a difficult draft to get underway.
188Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 22:15
now. he's busy deciding. he's 17. takes him longer to decide.
189Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 22:15
Difficult is not even the word. I just hope we can get through it.
190Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 22:16
He has another 8 minutes
191Tree
      Donor
      ID: 6742119
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 22:17
he's analyzing QB/WR vs. Defensive match ups week by week. for real. he's telling me this over IM.
192Stuck in the Sixties
      Leader
      ID: 274132811
      Sun, Aug 24, 2003, 22:17
I'm going to start a new thread. This is getting unwieldy. Please post in new one.

Don
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