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0 Subject: The Hardcore Keeper League: Season Discussion II

Posted by: APerfect10 - Leader [535572315] Tue, Sep 30, 2003, 23:17
2003 Offseason Discussion

Official League Website

2003 Players List download in MS Excel XP (updated daily)

2003 Draft Discussion I

2003 Draft Discussion II

2003 Draft Thread I (Rounds 1 - 5)

2003 Draft Thread II (Rounds 6 - 10)

2003 Draft Thread III (Rounds 11 - 15)

2003 Draft Thread IV (Rounds 16 - 20)

THKL: 2003 Season Discussion I

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1APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Tue, Sep 30, 2003, 23:20 		Week 4 - Final Results
Cowboys Homer   Long Beach Lightning
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
19 HOU QB Carr,David   Green,Trent QB KC 12
28 CAR RB Davis,Stephen   Anderson,Mike RB DEN 7
15 JAC RB Taylor,Fred   Portis,Clinton RB DEN 0
17 DEN WR Lelie,Ashley   Muhammad,Muhsin WR CAR 4
2 NO WR Stallworth,DonteĠ   Coles,Laveranues WR WAS 11
18 PIT WR Burress,Plaxico   Harrison,Marvin WR IND 39
18 BAL TE Heap,Todd   Franks,Bubba TE GB 16
5 DEN DL Berry,Bertrand   Daniels,Phillip DL CHI 3
14 NE DL Mcginest,Willie   Hayward,Reggie DL DEN 4
8 PIT DL Smith,Aaron   Freeney,Dwight DL IND 9
5 SD DB Lassiter,Kwamie   Doss,Michael DB IND 14
8 NO DB Ambrose,Ashley   Williams,Roy DB DAL 13
6 TEN DB Schulters,Lance   Peterson,Julian LB SF 8
9 ATL LB Draft,Chris   Porter,Joey LB PIT 8
22 HOU LB Foreman,Jay   Arrington,Lavar LB WAS 10
15 BUF LB Fletcher,London   Elam,Jason PK DEN 15
13 WAS PK Hall,John   St-Patriots,Ne ST NE 12
22 CLE ST St-Browns,Cle   Ol-Rams,Stl OL STL 16
21 GB OL Ol-Packers,Gb   Plummer,Ahmed DB SF 6
265               207
                 
beebop   Furious Midget Klingon Horde
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
24 TEN QB Mcnair,Steve   Johnson,Doug QB ATL 3
11 DET RB Bryson,Shawn   Faulk,Kevin RB NE -1
0 NYG RB Barber,Tiki   Gordon,Lamar RB STL 15
10 SF WR Owens,Terrell   Moss,Randy WR MIN 43
16 PIT WR Ward,Hines   Wayne,Reggie WR IND 5
13 CLE WR Johnson,Kevin   Booker,Marty WR CHI 6
0 JAC TE Brady,Kyle   Sharpe,Shannon TE DEN 27
0 PIT DL Haggans,Clark   Holliday,Vonnie DL KC 1
9 OAK DL Coleman,Roderic   Porcher,Robert DL DET 6
15 CAR DL Jenkins,Kris   Hunt,Cletidus DL GB 2
12 IND DB Harper,Niccholas   Sharper,Darren DB GB 24
22 DET DB Bly,Dre   Wesley,Greg DB KC 26
25 WAS DB Bailey,Champ   Green,Michael DB CHI 29
10 PIT LB Farrior,James   Bulluck,Keith LB TEN 20
16 NE LB Bruschi,Tedy   Peterson,Mike LB JAC 23
7 CLE LB Taylor,Ben   Holmes,Earl LB DET 20
10 NE PK Vinatieri,Adam   Janikowski,Sebastian PK OAK 18
8 CHI ST St-Bears,Chi   St-Lions,Det ST DET 14
13 CHI OL Ol-Bears,Chi   Ol-Steelers,Pit OL PIT 6
221               287
                 
Birds of Prey   Sandwich Town Statics
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
14 NE QB Brady,Tom   Ramsey,Patrick QB WAS 5
7 MIN RB Williams,Moe   Henry,Travis RB BUF 0
14 KC RB Holmes,Priest   George,Eddie RB TEN 3
16 DET WR Rogers,Charles   Johnson,Bryant WR ARI 7
0 NYG WR Toomer,Amani   Thrash,James WR PHI 7
8 BAL WR Taylor,Travis   Galloway,Joey WR DAL 15
11 KC TE Gonzalez,Tony   Crumpler,Alge TE ATL 18
4 BAL DL Thomas,Adalius   Parrella,John DL OAK 2
6 NO DL Grant,Charles   Ellis,Shaun DL NYJ 14
11 NYJ DL Abraham,John   Kearse,Jevon DL TEN 14
14 BAL DB Baxter,Gary   Winfield,Antoine DB BUF 19
17 BAL DB Reed,Edward   Williams,Aeneas DB STL 2
12 NE DB Harrison,Rodney   Brown,Mike DB CHI 8
8 CHI LB Urlacher,Brian   Barber,Shawn LB KC 14
10 PHI LB Simoneau,Mark   Bell,Kendrell LB PIT 14
7 NYJ LB Jones,Marvin   Lewis,Ray LB BAL 27
17 PHI PK Akers,David   Vanderjagt,Mike PK IND 0
16 NO ST St-Saints,No   St-Panthers,Car ST CAR -4
13 MIN OL Ol-Vikings,Min   Ol-Eagles,Phi OL PHI 16
205               181
                 
Ike44   Italian Eagles
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
25 STL QB Bulger,Marc   Manning,Peyton QB IND 48
8 CLE RB Green,William   Smith,Emmitt RB ARI 8
2 CIN RB Dillon,Corey   Mack,Stacey RB HOU 3
17 HOU WR Johnson,Andre   Bryant,Antonio WR DAL 8
21 CIN WR Johnson,Chad   Brown,Tim WR OAK 23
31 STL WR Holt,Torry   Smith,Rod WR DEN 11
16 IND TE Pollard,Marcus   Fauria,Christian TE NE 9
3 NE DL Seymour,Richard   Dingle,Adrian DL SD 6
8 KC DL Hicks,Eric   Lang,Kenard DL CLE 5
18 GB DL Gbaja-Biamila,K   Carter,Kevin DL TEN 14
9 OAK DB Woodson,Charles   Washington,Dewa DB PIT 4
0 JAC DB Mccree,Marlon   Scott,Chad DB PIT 9
16 NO DB Bellamy,Jay   OĠneal,Deltha DB DEN 6
22 MIN LB Claiborne,Chris   Gold,Ian LB DEN 19
16 BUF LB Spikes,Takeo   Sharper,Jamie LB HOU 13
15 DEN LB Wilson,Al   Gildon,Jason LB PIT 8
4 ATL PK Feely,Jay   Wilkins,Jeff PK STL 24
4 WAS ST St-Redskins,Was   St-Texans,Hou ST HOU 34
13 OAK OL Ol-Raiders,Oak   Ol-Broncos,Den OL DEN 7
248               259
                 
Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters   Nerfherders
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
20 CLE QB Couch,Tim   Garcia,Jeff QB SF -4
33 GB RB Green,Ahman   Canidate,Trung RB WAS 9
13 NYJ RB Martin,Curtis   Staley,Duce RB PHI 4
10 NO WR Horn,Joe   Kennison,Eddie WR KC 4
18 OAK WR Rice,Jerry   Boston,David WR SD 0
18 CLE WR Morgan,Quincy   Price,Peerless WR ATL 8
0 ARI TE Jones,Freddie   Miller,Billy TE HOU 4
22 CAR DL Rucker,Michael   Mixon,Kenny DL MIN 10
22 JAC DL Henderson,John   Ellis,Greg DL DAL 3
5 JAC DL Douglas,Hugh   Little,Leonard DL STL 13
9 KC DB Woods,Jerome   Clements,Nate DB BUF 5
15 DEN DB Herndon,Kelly   Thomas,Fred DB NO 10
12 CLE DB Griffith,Robert   Dawkins,Brian DB PHI 0
16 NYJ LB Cowart,Sam   Holdman,Warrick LB CHI 7
20 SD LB Moreno,Zeke   Barton,Eric LB OAK 13
13 CLE LB Davis,Andra   Edwards,Donnie LB SD 22
10 KC PK Andersen,Morten   Carney,John PK NO 13
42 ARI ST St-Cards,Ari   St-Jets,Nyj ST NYJ 30
18 CAR OL Ol-Panthers,Car   Ol-Chiefs,Kc OL KC 10
316               161
                 
Rolling Thunder   Art of Monk
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
10 PHI QB Mcnabb,Donovan   Bledsoe,Drew QB BUF 23
14 SF RB Hearst,Garrison   Lewis,Jamal RB BAL 25
39 SD RB Tomlinson,Ladai   Mcallister,Deuc RB NO 22
19 BUF WR Moulds,Eric   Brown,Troy WR NE 14
1 TEN WR Mason,Derrick   Gardner,Rod WR WAS 3
9 STL WR Bruce,Isaac   Driver,Donald WR GB 9
9 IND TE Clark,Dallas   Jolley,Doug TE OAK 24
13 BUF DL Schobel,Aaron   Peppers,Julius DL CAR 6
3 ATL DL Kerney,Patrick   Carter,Andre DL SF 4
8 DAL DB Woodson,Darren   Smith,Justin DL CIN 20
8 BAL DB Mcalister,Chris   Archuleta,Adam DB STL 2
4 OAK DB Buchanon,Philli   Wilson,Adrian DB ARI 11
6 IND LB Morris,Rob   Williams,Tank DB TEN 14
12 BAL LB Hartwell,Edgerton   Thornton,David LB IND 29
8 ATL LB Brooking,Keith   Simmons,Brian LB CIN 21
15 GB PK Longwell,Ryan   Maslowski,Mike LB KC 20
20 KC ST St-Chiefs,Kc   Reed,Jeff PK PIT 10
14 BAL OL Ol-Ravens,Bal   St-Chargers,Sd ST SD 24
0 0 0 0   Ol-Saints,No OL NO 16
212               297

RED=changed result
GREEN=unchanged result
2APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Tue, Sep 30, 2003, 23:21 		Unfortunately, this was the first week that 2 results had to be changed from the site.

LAZIO beat Ike. Prior to now, the site stated Ike won.
AP10 beat Sandwich Town Statics. Prior to now, the site stated the opposite.

You have until Thursday night at midnight to report any scoring discrepencies. At that time, all results will become FINAL.
3APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Tue, Sep 30, 2003, 23:31 		First Trade Announcement
Cowboys Homer sends Fred Taylor, RB JAX & Donte Stallworth, WR NO to
Sandwich Town Statics for TJ Duckett

Trade will be approved on 10/2 @ 10am EST. If you feel this trade is unfair, email complaints to me or post them on the league message board on Rotoguru.
4Bags
      ID: 46823261
      Wed, Oct 01, 2003, 01:58 		Timeout!

I screwed up. I did't mean to pick Duckett. I was trying to go for Henry. I apologize for the confusion.
5APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Wed, Oct 01, 2003, 11:07 		Alright, I'll veto it...
6Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 31649212
      Wed, Oct 01, 2003, 13:04 		Yeah, that seemed a bit of an odd trade... Henry would have made more sense.
7Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 31649212
      Wed, Oct 01, 2003, 13:22 		By the way... Derek, I sent you an email regarding waivers... seems some players weren't added to my roster last week or something... not sure if that was on my end or yours or the website or what but if you could please check on it... thanks!
8Nerfherders
      ID: 308512415
      Wed, Oct 01, 2003, 14:13 		Yay me 35 points from offense. My ST nearly scored more than all 8 players on offense.
9dgrooves
      ID: 444581317
      Wed, Oct 01, 2003, 19:29 		Derek, could I see a breakdown of the points score by Ari-ST in Week 4? Thanks.
10Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 31649212
      Wed, Oct 01, 2003, 21:38 		Well, as I figure it...

Arizona
252 return yards, 50 points (2 points per 10 yards)
1 TD, 6 points
2 punts inside 20, 4 points
129 return yards allowed, -16 points (-2 points per 15 yards)
Total: 44 points

They are listed at 42. Not sure why the discrepancy, would be curious to find out.
11Bags @ work
      ID: 87482816
      Wed, Oct 01, 2003, 23:04 		FYI my waiver claim for Kleinsasser is if the one for Conwell doesn't go through.

Thanks.
12APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Wed, Oct 01, 2003, 23:29 		dgrooves, because you scored to many points! ;) If you score over 300+ points and win by 150+ then you get 2 points deducted :)-

Fixed...
13Nerfherders
      ID: 308512415
      Thu, Oct 02, 2003, 10:36 		Im assuming I didnt get conwell? crapola
14Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Thu, Oct 02, 2003, 12:01 		I picked up Conwell last week, but the site didn't add him to my roster for some reason... but if you look at the "Transactions" tab you can see it processed last week.
15Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 2730280
      Thu, Oct 02, 2003, 12:06 		*correction* - it's simple labeled "Trans", not "Transactions"... on the main page it's in the second (middle) row of buttons near the right... Conwell was picked up on 9.24 along with Lamont Jordan (who also didn't show up on my roster until the past day)... just FYI
17APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Thu, Oct 02, 2003, 12:25 		Also, as Doug noted in post 14. Conwell was picked up last week by Doug. I processed the claim, and added him to Dougs team (I can delete old trans but I cant add new ones). Somehow, someway he didnt make it on his team...So anyone that wanted Conwell, he's already taken. Sorry...
19Bags
      ID: 46823261
      Fri, Oct 03, 2003, 02:48 		AP10 I put in a few more waiver claims. Will they go through before Sun?
20APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Fri, Oct 03, 2003, 09:40 		Yes, if you can submit a claim, it will go through.

I have the waiver claim submission deadline set for 1am EST on Friday's, 36 hours prior to the first games kickoff.
21APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Fri, Oct 03, 2003, 11:26 		er, I guess it would be considered 1am EST on Saturday...
22dgrooves
      ID: 12831011
      Fri, Oct 03, 2003, 12:22 		Heh, I wasnt trying to be an a$$hole or anything, I was just curious why there was a discrepancy :)
23Nerfherders
      ID: 308512415
      Tue, Oct 07, 2003, 15:38 		Wow, where did everybody go? Nobody has posted in this FORUM since Friday. Did everybody quit football? LOL.

Looks like I brought down the beast that is Birds of Prey. You can thank me later. :)
24beebop
      ID: 2682424
      Tue, Oct 07, 2003, 17:30 		I shoulda won that...........
DAMN THE COLTS COMEBACK!!!!!! it was the colts, wasnt it??? lol

Dont worry nerf, just wait til i play ya ;) theres just no competition

25APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 4796716
      Tue, Oct 07, 2003, 18:07 		Heh, yeah, I suffered my first loss ever this week :( My team isnt nearly as strong as last years, but hopefully I can claim the title again :)
26Bags@ work
      ID: 319561820
      Tue, Oct 07, 2003, 22:37 		Don't worry AP10 I'll help you get back on the winning track this week. My RB's don't look good this week.
27Bags@ work
      ID: 319561820
      Tue, Oct 07, 2003, 22:38 		On the brighter side my Cowboys are in 1st! :-)
28APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Tue, Oct 07, 2003, 23:20 		Week 5 Final Results
beebop   Long Beach Lightning
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
27 TEN QB Mcnair,Steve   Green,Trent QB KC 15
3 DET RB Bryson,Shawn   Williams,Ricky RB MIA 13
19 NYG RB Barber,Tiki   Portis,Clinton RB DEN 32
9 TEN WR Mccareins,Justin   Harrison,Marvin WR IND 40
7 PIT WR Ward,Hines   Coles,Laveranues WR WAS 11
18 SF WR Owens,Terrell   Boldin,Anquan WR ARI 6
18 MIA TE Mcmichael,Randy   Franks,Bubba TE GB 11
6 CAR DL Jenkins,Kris   Hayward,Reggie DL DEN 2
0 DEN DL Pryce,Trevor   Ogunleye,Adewal DL MIA 2
9 OAK DL Coleman,Roderic   Freeney,Dwight DL IND 5
16 WAS DB Bailey,Champ   Doss,Michael DB IND 30
19 DET DB Bly,Dre   Jammer,Quentin DB SD 7
16 MIN DB Russell,Brian   Williams,Roy DB DAL 17
8 KC LB Fujita,Scott   Arrington,Lavar LB WAS 11
20 NE LB Bruschi,Tedy   Diggs,Nail LB GB 3
9 CAR LB Witherspoon,Wil   Porter,Joey LB PIT 8
16 NE PK Vinatieri,Adam   Elam,Jason PK DEN 18
6 BUF ST St-Bills,Buf   St-Patriots,Ne ST NE 30
16 CHI OL Ol-Bears,Chi   Ol-Bengals,Cin OL CIN 8
242               269
                 
Sandwich Town Statics   Furious Midget Klingon Horde
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
16 WAS QB Ramsey,Patrick   Fiedler,Jay QB MIA 4
23 BUF RB Henry,Travis   Holliday,Vonnie DL KC 2
9 ATL RB Duckett,T.j.   Buckhalter,Corr RB PHI 0
6 DAL WR Galloway,Joey   Johnson,Keyshaw WR TB 10
9 SEA WR Jackson,Darrell   Booker,Marty WR CHI 19
1 ARI WR Johnson,Bryant   Moss,Randy WR MIN 25
10 ATL TE Crumpler,Alge   Sharpe,Shannon TE DEN 11
14 SD DL Wiley,Marcellus   Rice,Simeon DL TB 6
22 TEN DL Kearse,Jevon   Taylor,Jason DL MIA 5
24 NYG DL Strahan,Michael   Wesley,Greg DB KC 8
23 BUF DB Winfield,Antoine   Green,Michael DB CHI 6
15 SEA DB Trufant,Marcus   Sharper,Darren DB GB 21
31 TB DB Barber,Ronde   Holmes,Earl LB DET 12
20 PIT LB Bell,Kendrell   Peterson,Mike LB JAC 8
17 KC LB Barber,Shawn   Bulluck,Keith LB TEN 22
15 OAK LB Harris,Napoleon   Janikowski,Sebastian PK OAK 26
14 IND PK Vanderjagt,Mike   St-Lions,Det ST DET 10
20 CAR ST St-Panthers,Car   Ol-Niners,Sf OL SF 15
16 TB OL Ol-Bucs,Tb   Thomas,Anthony RB CHI 12
305               222
                 
Birds of Prey   Nerfherders
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
14 NE QB Brady,Tom   Garcia,Jeff QB SF 25
11 KC RB Holmes,Priest   Pittman,Michael RB TB 17
10 OAK RB Garner,Charlie   Canidate,Trung RB WAS 5
6 SF WR Streets,Tai   Shaw,Bobby WR BUF 5
9 DET WR Rogers,Charles   Kennison,Eddie WR KC 3
6 NYG WR Toomer,Amani   Boston,David WR SD 42
18 KC TE Gonzalez,Tony   Kinney,Erron TE TEN 7
2 ATL DL Johnson,Ellis   Mixon,Kenny DL MIN 22
10 DAL DL Glover,Laroi   Kalu,Ndukwe DL PHI 19
2 NO DL Grant,Charles   Ellis,Greg DL DAL 2
18 BUF DB Milloy,Lawyer   Clements,Nate DB BUF 16
12 MIA DB Knight,Sammy   Thomas,Fred DB NO 20
20 NE DB Harrison,Rodney   Kelly,Brian DB TB 2
23 PHI LB Simoneau,Mark   Thomas,Zach LB MIA 20
14 TB LB Brooks,Derrick   Barton,Eric LB OAK 15
17 CHI LB Urlacher,Brian   Edwards,Donnie LB SD 20
18 PHI PK Akers,David   Carney,John PK NO 11
14 NO ST St-Saints,No   St-Falcons,Atl ST ATL 26
17 MIN OL Ol-Vikings,Min   Ol-Chiefs,Kc OL KC 15
241               292
                 
Ike44   Art of Monk
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
4 ARI QB Blake,Jeff   Bledsoe,Drew QB BUF 14
4 TB RB Alstott,Mike   McAllister,Deuce RB NO 21
0 CIN RB Dillon,Corey   Hambrick,Troy RB DAL 6
0 ATL WR Finneran,Brian   Robinson,Koren WR SEA 15
11 NE WR Branch,Deion   Driver,Donald WR GB 20
11 CIN WR Johnson,Chad   Gardner,Rod WR WAS 5
10 IND TE Pollard,Marcus   Jolley,Doug TE OAK 12
4 GB DL Gbaja-Biamila,K   Peppers,Julius DL CAR 5
4 KC DL Hicks,Eric   Carter,Andre DL SF 4
13 NE DL Seymour,Richard   Smith,Justin DL CIN 11
24 OAK DB Woodson,Charles   Wilson,Adrian DB ARI 10
19 NYG DB Williams,Shaun   Parrish,Tony DB SF 17
2 NO DB Bellamy,Jay   Williams,Tank DB TEN 21
26 MIN LB Claiborne,Chris   Thornton,David LB IND 25
13 BUF LB Spikes,Takeo   Maslowski,Mike LB KC 12
4 CIN LB Hardy,Kevin   Simmons,Brian LB CIN 17
14 ATL PK Feely,Jay   Reed,Jeff PK PIT 12
18 WAS ST St-Redskins,Was   St-Chargers,Sd ST SD 6
7 SD OL Ol-Chargers,Sd   Ol-Saints,No OL NO 16
188               249
                 
Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters   Cowboys Homer
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
20 MIN QB Frerotte,Gus   Hasselbeck,Matt QB SEA 6
17 SEA RB Alexander,Shaun   Davis,Stephen RB CAR 19
24 GB RB Green,Ahman   Taylor,Fred RB JAC 30
15 NO WR Horn,Joe   Lelie,Ashley WR DEN 6
8 OAK WR Rice,Jerry   Chambers,Chris WR MIA 4
12 NYG WR Hilliard,Ike   Burress,Plaxico WR PIT 2
11 ARI TE Jones,Freddie   Kleinsasser,Jimmy TE MIN 0
10 CAR DL Rucker,Michael   Berry,Bertrand DL DEN 2
7 JAC DL Ayodele,Akin   Mcginest,Willie DL NE 0
5 SEA DL Okeafor,Chike   Smith,Aaron DL PIT 7
13 SEA DB Tongue,Reggie   Lassiter,Kwamie DB SD 14
18 SEA DB Hamlin,Ken   Grant,Deon DB CAR 12
6 KC DB Woods,Jerome   Lynch,John DB TB 14
10 SD LB Moreno,Zeke   Jones,Dhani LB NYG 12
29 GB LB Barnett,Nick   Mckinnon,Ronald LB ARI 20
0 SF LB Winborn,Jamie   Simmons,Anthony LB SEA 12
10 KC PK Andersen,Morten   Gramatica,Martin PK TB 10
16 ARI ST St-Cards,Ari   St-Packers,Gb ST GB 2
17 CAR OL Ol-Panthers,Car   Ol-Dolphins,Mia OL MIA 13
248               185
                 
Rolling Thunder   Italian Eagles
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
7 PHI QB Mcnabb,Donovan   Favre,Brett QB GB 19
9 SF RB Hearst,Garrison   Burns,Joe RB BUF 0
10 SD RB Tomlinson,Ladainian   James,Edgerrin RB IND 0
3 BUF WR Reed,Josh   Bryant,Antonio WR DAL 3
17 TEN WR Mason,Derrick   Smith,Steve WR CAR 2
18 BUF WR Moulds,Eric   Smith,Rod WR DEN 23
9 IND TE Clark,Dallas   Shockey,Jeremy TE NYG 33
23 CLE DL Brown,Courtney   Lang,Kenard DL CLE 2
13 BUF DL Schobel,Aaron   Carter,Kevin DL TEN 5
10 TB DL Sapp,Warren   Holmes,Kenny DL NYG 15
12 DAL DB Woodson,Darren   Washington,Dewa DB PIT 12
0 OAK DB Buchanon,Philli   Scott,Chad DB PIT 11
19 DAL DB Newman,Terence   Oneal,Deltha DB DEN 11
16 IND LB Morris,Rob   Barrow,Mike LB NYG 8
16 ATL LB Brooking,Keith   Gold,Ian LB DEN 12
10 GB PK Longwell,Ryan   Gildon,Jason LB PIT 10
10 DAL ST St-Cowboys,Dal   Hanson,Jason PK DET 8
11 SEA OL Ol-Seahawks,Sea   St-Vikings,Min ST MIN -2
0 0 0 0   Ol-Broncos,Den OL DEN 18
213               190

RED=changed result
GREEN=unchanged result
29APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Wed, Oct 08, 2003, 11:08 		I need WR help. Anyone want to trade and upgrade a position?
30APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Wed, Oct 08, 2003, 11:27 		LAZIO, your Dexter Mccleon add was declined since beebop would have higher priority.
31IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Wed, Oct 08, 2003, 20:48 		i need rb help, can we work something out?
i can offer favre and anyone else except for the indy's duo.....
32wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 129648
      Wed, Oct 08, 2003, 21:10 		wiggs with his 1st W.

AP10, I have some decent WRs, not sure if you are interested in any of them. LEt me know.
33APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Thu, Oct 09, 2003, 00:42 		Well, I agreed to a deal with Nerfherders and posted the trade on the site. Throw offers this way, if you can offer something better before he accepts I'll think about it. It would have to be pretty good for me to back out of something I verbally agreed to though...
34Bags
      ID: 46823261
      Thu, Oct 09, 2003, 01:05 		Where did you post the trade? I can't seem to find it.
35IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Thu, Oct 09, 2003, 08:47 		well, i would offer favre, rod smith, mack and the broncos' or colts' OL for priest......
you would have an upgrade at qb, wr and Ol for a downgrade at rb.
the downgrade would be big, but favre, rod and the broncos' OL are really a good upgrade, aren't them? ;-)
36Nerfherders
      ID: 308512415
      Thu, Oct 09, 2003, 10:44 		I'm not liking this League News page being used for waiver claims. Unless I'm missing something, It scrolls off after only a few posts and there's no way to go back to see older posts. I'm missing alot of waiver claims because of this.
37Nerfherders
      ID: 308512415
      Thu, Oct 09, 2003, 18:38 		I put the numbers for week 5 in my little spreadsheet. Strange statistic for the week:

So far this season, 5 team's tight ends are outscoring their quarterbacks. That's so wrong. heh.
38Art of Monk
      ID: 5920916
      Thu, Oct 09, 2003, 19:39 		ap10 can you put my new Steam into the starting lineup for me. I am not sure if I will have computer access being out of town.
Thanks
39beebop
      ID: 2682424
      Thu, Oct 09, 2003, 19:42 		What teams are they??? Coz i got the No.2 and 4 QB........and i need help!!!!!! i think i also have 3 of the top 4 DB's, and 2 of them have a bye this week......lol.......

My DL is not very strong at all, same with LB i think.
40APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 1455222
      Fri, Oct 10, 2003, 09:21 		Nerf, you have confused me. *All* pending waivers are viewable under "League News", at no time, no matter what number of claims are being processed, should they go off the page. The only time they are taken off the page is when the 36 hour processing period is over. At that time I approve the claim, remove the news from the page. You can view all transactions processed under the "Trans" tab.

So in summary, all pending transactions are viewable under "League News", once approved they are viewable under "Trans"...
41IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Sun, Oct 12, 2003, 19:22 		is ike44 still in the league?
haven't heard from him for a while now, and he hasn't posted his lineup this week....
42APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Mon, Oct 13, 2003, 20:19 		Yeah he's here. Guess he was busy and couldnt post his lineup. I'll have to use his lineup from last week...
44dwfffan
      ID: 194984
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 05:39 		E. Moulds is credited with 18 points and he did not even play.
45dwfffan
      ID: 194984
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 05:51 		D. Clark, TE, was 2-31 that should total 8 not 18.
46wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 13928139
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 06:38 		if you want to pick out every mistake i will do the same, no way Ogunleye,Adewal got 38 with 5 solo tackles, and nothing else. I am sure there are more, but it is 630 am and i am not going to add them all up now.
47APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 10:42 		Hmm. Obviously there are errors. Let me look this over...
48APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 10:52 		Week 6 Final Results (Corrected)
beebop   Art of Monk
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
31 TEN QB Mcnair,Steve   Bledsoe,Drew QB BUF 2
1 IND RB Williams,Rickey   Lewis,Jamal RB BAL 13
16 NYG RB Barber,Tiki   McAllister,Deuce RB NO 14
7 SF WR Owens,Terrell   Robinson,Koren WR SEA 7
3 CLE WR Johnson,Kevin   Driver,Donald WR GB 12
16 PIT WR Ward,Hines   Brown,Troy WR NE 2
13 MIA TE Mcmichael,Randy   Jolley,Doug TE OAK 7
4 OAK DL Coleman,Roderic   Whitehead,Willi DL NO 5
4 CAR DL Jenkins,Kris   Carter,Andre DL SF 13
33 NYJ DL Ferguson,Jason   Peppers,Julius DL CAR 3
6 WAS DB Bailey,Champ   Williams,Tank DB TEN 15
15 IND DB Harper,Niccholas   Archuleta,Adam DB STL 16
13 KC DB Mccleon,Dexter   Wilson,Adrian DB ARI 18
31 NE LB Bruschi,Tedy   Thornton,David LB IND 19
5 PIT LB Farrior,James   Maslowski,Mike LB KC 17
30 KC LB Fujita,Scott   Brown,Chad LB SEA 25
8 NE PK Vinatieri,Adam   Reed,Jeff PK PIT 8
10 BUF ST St-Bills,Buf   Ol-Saints,No OL NO 15
12 CHI OL Ol-Bears,Chi   0 0 0 0
258               211
                 
Italian Eagles   Nerfherders
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
14 IND QB Manning,Peyton   Garcia,Jeff QB SF 12
15 ARI RB Shipp,Marcel   Pittman,Michael RB TB 12
9 PHI RB Westbrook,Brian   Staley,Duce RB PHI 17
5 STL WR Edwards,Troy   Gaffney,Jabar WR HOU 0
23 CAR WR Smith,Steve   Bennett,Drew WR TEN 4
19 DEN WR Smith,Rod   Price,Peerless WR ATL 1
24 NYG TE Shockey,Jeremy   Kinney,Erron TE TEN 3
3 CLE DL Lang,Kenard   Kalu,Ndukwe DL PHI 5
6 TEN DL Carter,Kevin   Ellis,Greg DL DAL 14
3 NYG DL Holmes,Kenny   Little,Leonard DL STL 13
14 HOU DB Coleman,Marcus   Surtain,Patrick DB MIA 5
15 PIT DB Scott,Chad   Clements,Nate DB BUF 4
0 DEN DB Oneal,Deltha   Thomas,Fred DB NO 31
18 NYG LB Barrow,Mike   Seau,Junior LB MIA 0
0 DEN LB Gold,Ian   Thomas,Zach LB MIA 12
23 HOU LB Sharper,Jamie   Barton,Eric LB OAK 16
17 STL PK Wilkins,Jeff   Carney,John PK NO 16
30 HOU ST St-Texans,Hou   St-Falcons,Atl ST ATL 24
8 DEN OL Ol-Broncos,Den   Ol-Chiefs,Kc OL KC 12
246               201
                 
Birds of Prey   Cowboys Homer
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
4 NE QB Brady,Tom   Hasselbeck,Matt QB SEA 12
25 KC RB Holmes,Priest   Davis,Stephen RB CAR 10
16 OAK RB Garner,Charlie   Taylor,Fred RB JAC 14
11 BUF WR Shaw,Bobby   Burress,Plaxico WR PIT 11
12 SF WR Streets,Tai   Chambers,Chris WR MIA 3
8 NYG WR Toomer,Amani   Lelie,Ashley WR DEN 1
34 KC TE Gonzalez,Tony   Heap,Todd TE BAL 1
9 CHI DL Brown,Alex   Brackens,Tony DL JAC 12
0 NYJ DL Abraham,John   Mcginest,Willie DL NE 11
10 BAL DL Gregg,Kelly   Sims,Ryan DL KC 2
21 BAL DB Reed,Edward   Grant,Deon DB CAR 9
32 NE DB Harrison,Rodney   Lynch,John DB TB 6
10 BAL DB Baxter,Gary   Stoutmire,Omar DB NYG 8
12 CHI LB Urlacher,Brian   Mckinnon,Ronald LB ARI 15
13 PHI LB Simoneau,Mark   Simmons,Anthony LB SEA 25
4 NYJ LB Jones,Marvin   Foreman,Jay LB HOU 9
6 PHI PK Akers,David   Gramatica,Martin PK TB 10
2 NO ST St-Saints,No   St-Packers,Gb ST GB 16
5 ATL OL Ol-Falcons,Atl   Ol-Dolphins,Mia OL MIA 9
234               184
                 
Ike44   Sandwich Town Statics
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
16 ARI QB Blake,Jeff   Brooks,Aaron QB NO 19
8 ATL WR Finneran,Brian   Duckett,T.j. RB ATL 6
0 CIN LB Hardy,Kevin   Henry,Travis RB BUF 15
16 NE DL Seymour,Richard   Galloway,Joey WR DAL 7
14 OAK DB Woodson,Charles   Thrash,James WR PHI 4
0 TB RB Alstott,Mike   Jackson,Darrell WR SEA 10
0 NE WR Branch,Deion   Crumpler,Alge TE ATL 5
2 KC DL Hicks,Eric   Ellis,Shaun DL NYJ 18
12 WAS ST St-Redskins,Was   Kearse,Jevon DL TEN 8
0 SD OL Ol-Chargers,Sd   Strahan,Michael DL NYG 22
0 ATL PK Feely,Jay   Barber,Ronde DB TB 13
0 MIN LB Claiborne,Chris   Winfield,Antoine DB BUF 14
8 IND TE Pollard,Marcus   Jackson,Dexter DB ARI 11
5 NYG DB Williams,Shaun   Bell,Kendrell LB PIT 7
9 GB DL Gbaja-Biamila,K   Lewis,Ray LB BAL 17
0 CIN WR Johnson,Chad   Barber,Shawn LB KC 26
16 NO DB Bellamy,Jay   Vanderjagt,Mike PK IND 13
12 BUF LB Spikes,Takeo   St-Panthers,Car ST CAR 26
0 CIN RB Dillon,Corey   Ol-Bucs,Tb OL TB 15
118               256
                 
Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters   Furious Midget Klingon Horde
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
6 CLE QB Couch,Tim   Fiedler,Jay QB MIA 2
14 SEA RB Alexander,Shaun   Thomas,Anthony RB CHI 9
33 GB RB Green,Ahman   Gordon,Lamar RB STL 9
12 NO WR Horn,Joe   Wayne,Reggie WR IND 17
3 OAK WR Rice,Jerry   Booker,Marty WR CHI 2
10 NYG WR Hilliard,Ike   Mccardell,Keena WR TB 12
25 ARI TE Jones,Freddie   Sharpe,Shannon TE DEN 23
6 CAR DL Rucker,Michael   Holliday,Vonnie DL KC 4
13 JAC DL Ayodele,Akin   Rice,Simeon DL TB 42
16 SEA DL Okeafor,Chike   Taylor,Jason DL MIA 32
9 SEA DB Tongue,Reggie   Wesley,Greg DB KC 22
11 DEN DB Herndon,Kelly   Green,Michael DB CHI 9
29 KC DB Woods,Jerome   Sharper,Darren DB GB 10
32 NYJ LB Cowart,Sam   Thomas,Robert LB STL 0
18 GB LB Barnett,Nick   Peterson,Mike LB JAC 6
14 CLE LB Davis,Andra   Bulluck,Keith LB TEN 16
18 KC PK Andersen,Morten   Janikowski,Sebastian PK OAK 2
18 ARI ST St-Cards,Ari   Ol-Niners,Sf OL SF 9
18 CAR OL Ol-Panthers,Car   St-Dolphins,Mia ST MIA 12
305               238
                 
Rolling Thunder   Long Beach Lightning
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
8 PHI QB Mcnabb,Donovan   Leftwich,Byron QB JAC 6
10 SF RB Hearst,Garrison   Williams,Ricky RB MIA 10
0 NE RB Smith,Antowain   Portis,Clinton RB DEN 8
41 TEN WR Mason,Derrick   Harrison,Marvin WR IND 19
13 STL WR Bruce,Isaac   Smith,Jimmy WR JAC 12
0 BUF WR Moulds,Eric   Coles,Laveranues WR WAS 12
8 IND TE Clark,Dallas   Franks,Bubba TE GB 7
18 CLE DL Brown,Courtney   Hayward,Reggie DL DEN 10
18 TB DL Sapp,Warren   Ogunleye,Adewal DL MIA 38
3 BUF DL Schobel,Aaron   Freeney,Dwight DL IND 21
7 DAL DB Woodson,Darren   Plummer,Ahmed DB SF 10
4 OAK DB Buchanon,Philli   Doss,Michael DB IND 13
11 DAL DB Newman,Terence   Williams,Roy DB DAL 20
20 IND LB Morris,Rob   Diggs,Nail LB GB 4
13 BAL LB Hartwell,Edgerton   Arrington,Lavar LB WAS 11
21 ATL LB Brooking,Keith   Peterson,Julian LB SF 21
21 GB PK Longwell,Ryan   Elam,Jason PK DEN 10
4 KC ST St-Chiefs,Kc   St-Patriots,Ne ST NE -2
15 BAL OL Ol-Ravens,Bal   Ol-Rams,Stl OL STL 14
235               244

RED=changed result
GREEN=unchanged result
49dgrooves
      ID: 12831011
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 12:46 		There are errors in my ST and OL scores:

Ari ST
142 return yards gained = 28 pts
16 return yards allowed = -2 pts
1 punt inside the 20 = 2 pts

28 - 2 + 2 = 28, not 18

Car OL
189 rushing yards gained = 16 pts
2 offensive TDs = 2 pts
3 sacks allowed = -3 pts

16 + 2 - 3 = 15, not 18

I dont know if this means there are problems with other scores though.
50wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 13928139
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 12:49 		ap10, there are no errors on Ogunleye,Adewal's 38 points? no way a line man with 5 tackles scored that well.
51Nerfherders
      ID: 308512415
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 13:35 		Ogunleye had 5 tackles, 1 assist, 3 sacks, 2 PD's, and a forced fumble. As much as I hate to say it, that's 38. He can thank the new blocking schemes that allow Jason Taylor to get Jack Squat this year.
52Nerfherders
      ID: 308512415
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 13:46 		I realize it doesn't change the outcome, but here's a an error:

Houston ST: 109 for = 20
41 against = -4
3 punts inside 20 = 6

= 22, not 30
53ART of MONK
      ID: 13530917
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 13:46 		Not that it makes a big deal. In post 38 I asked if you could put my new ST into my starting lineup. I still lose. Beebop had 3 def. player socre 30 or more and he had McNair.
54wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 13928139
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 13:50 		I think i found an error for my special teams

Return yards 116
11*2 22
return yards give up 140
9*2 -18
kick inside 20
1*2 2

22 +2 - 18 = 6
55wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 13928139
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 13:52 		for Long Beach Lightning
his OL 119 rushing yards =11
1 rushing td =1
12 not 14
56beebop
      ID: 2682424
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 16:05 		Art......my bench QB scored more, 34.
I have the No.1 and No.3 QB's, if anyone wants 1 of them???
McNair and Johnson.
57APerfect10
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      Thu, Oct 16, 2003, 11:16 		wiggs

Your ST:
116 yards gained : 22 pts
157 yards allowed : -20 pts
1 Punt I20 : 2
-----------------
4 total pts (it was corret)

LBL OL:
119 yard rushing : 11 pts
3 offensive TDs : 3 pts
0 sacks : - 0 pts
---------------------
14 total pts (it was correct)

**I look at the other alleged errors later tonight, I'm in a crunch for time.
58APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Thu, Oct 16, 2003, 16:17 		Ok, Three corrections will be made to the scoring..

Arizona ST = 28 pts
Carolina OL = 15 pts
Houston ST = 22 pts
59ART of MONK
      ID: 13530917
      Thu, Oct 16, 2003, 17:55 		What about Adding my Steeler ST, I don't know if scoring will come into play for a tiebreaker.
60Bags @ work
      ID: 87482816
      Fri, Oct 17, 2003, 23:04 		I posted a waiver claim. If it is too late to put one in that is ok. If it is able to go through that would be sweet. I just thought I would try.
61APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 1455222
      Sat, Oct 18, 2003, 10:21 		Art, I'm not sure what your request is. The Steelers had off last week. Could you elaborate?

Bags, if you posted your claim prior to 1am EST on Friday Night/Saturday morning then it will be processed.
62IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Sat, Oct 18, 2003, 11:15 		ap10, i'm out of the limit at db, so i think i need to cut one.
the one to cut is

Washington,Dewa PIT

good luck for our game this sunday, and let's hope in bret, stacey and deshaun to put up at least 45-50 points!!!!
64dgrooves
      ID: 444581317
      Sat, Oct 18, 2003, 17:24 		Derek, apparently only half of my last waiver request got processed. I dropped Gus Ferotte for a DL (I now forget which one), but all that happened was Ferotte was removed from my team. Its pretty important for me this week because Ive only got 4 DL and 2 are on bye.

Assuming there are no problems, Id like Grady Jackson, DL NO added to my starting lineup. Thanks
65APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 1455222
      Sun, Oct 19, 2003, 02:02 		Ok...

Dewayne Washington Dropped

Grady Jackson added.

Art, excuse my previous post. Pittsburgh did play last week, they have off this week (week 7). However, for whatever reason, you didnt start them last week or atleast I have no record of you starting them. Therefore I cant give you any points...

Best of luck!
66dgrooves
      ID: 12831011
      Mon, Oct 20, 2003, 12:31 		Art, heres the stats from Pit ST in Week 6:

74 return yards gained: 14 points
43 return yards allowed: -4 points
1 punt inside the 20: 2 points

14 - 4 + 2 = 12

You would have needed 48 points from them to get a win.
67IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Mon, Oct 20, 2003, 18:08 		holy sh!t, i must hope in a huge defensive game tonight. i'm up by 40 points but ap10 has garner, holmes and gonzo going, while i've just the crappy brown.......if i would only have been with my A plan of cutting brown instead of steve smith.....
68ART of MONK
      ID: 13530917
      Tue, Oct 21, 2003, 00:50 		In post 38, I asked if you could put my new Steam into my starting lineup. I know lost the game big time and I doubt anything will come down to pts. So no big deal.
69IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 3951204
      Tue, Oct 21, 2003, 06:53 		it's a really close game, but:

hou st: 142 ret yds, + 4 punts in20, 138 ret yds allowed = 18 pts, not 12

saints st: 93 ret yds, 1 punt in20, 215 ret yds allowed = -8, not +2

den OL: 138 rush yds, 5 sacks allowed, 1td = 9pts, not 5.

min OL: 72 rush yds, 2 sack allowed, 1 td = 7 pts, not 5.
70Nerfherders
      ID: 308512415
      Tue, Oct 21, 2003, 11:19 		Looks like Art has lost some Steam. LOL!

Sorry.
71APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Tue, Oct 21, 2003, 18:38 		Art, gotcha. I'll add those ST points for week 6...
72APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Tue, Oct 21, 2003, 18:39 		Week 7 Final Results
Cowboys Homer   Art of Monk
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
12 SEA QB Hasselbeck,Matt   Bledsoe,Drew QB BUF 9
3 CAR RB Davis,Stephen   Lewis,Jamal RB BAL 11
28 HOU RB Davis,Domanick   McAllister,Deuce RB NO 24
13 NO WR Stallworth,Donte   Gardner,Rod WR WAS 10
9 MIA WR Chambers,Chris   Driver,Donald WR GB 9
7 DEN WR Lelie,Ashley   Robinson,Koren WR SEA 6
36 BAL TE Heap,Todd   Jolley,Doug TE OAK 1
3 KC DL Sims,Ryan   Whitehead,Willi DL NO 8
6 DEN DL Berry,Bertrand   Smith,Justin DL CIN 9
0 NE DL Mcginest,Willie   Carter,Andre DL SF 14
14 TB DB Lynch,John   Williams,Tank DB TEN 1
2 CAR DB Grant,Deon   Brown,Eric DB HOU 15
15 NYG DB Stoutmire,Omar   Parrish,Tony DB SF 4
24 SEA LB Simmons,Anthony   Brown,Chad LB SEA 19
3 HOU LB Foreman,Jay   Maslowski,Mike LB KC 11
15 BUF LB Fletcher,London   Trotter,Jeremia LB WAS 8
2 TB PK Gramatica,Martin   St-Chargers,Sd ST SD 12
6 GB ST St-Packers,Gb   Ol-Saints,No OL NO 18
13 GB OL Ol-Packers,Gb   0 0 0 0
211               189
                 
beebop   Nerfherders
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
23 TEN QB Mcnair,Steve   Bennett,Drew WR TEN 19
4 DET RB Bryson,Shawn   Williams,Moe RB MIN 19
15 NYG RB Barber,Tiki   St-Falcons,Atl ST ATL 32
2 TEN WR Mccareins,Justin   Surtain,Patrick DB MIA 13
10 CLE WR Johnson,Kevin   Clements,Nate DB BUF 6
27 SF WR Owens,Terrell   Mixon,Kenny DL MIN 12
28 MIA TE Mcmichael,Randy   Thomas,Fred DB NO 20
7 NYJ DL Ferguson,Jason   Pittman,Michael RB TB 18
12 DEN DL Pryce,Trevor   Carney,John PK NO 18
3 CIN DL Clemons,Duane   Ol-Chiefs,Kc OL KC 12
10 DET DB Bly,Dre   Miller,Billy TE HOU 3
16 MIN DB Russell,Brian   Ellis,Greg DL DAL 1
18 KC DB Mccleon,Dexter   Little,Leonard DL STL 17
29 KC LB Fujita,Scott   Boston,David WR SD 3
13 NE LB Bruschi,Tedy   Thomas,Zach LB MIA 20
13 CLE LB Taylor,Ben   Barton,Eric LB OAK 11
11 NE PK Vinatieri,Adam   Edwards,Donnie LB SD 26
4 CHI ST St-Bears,Chi   Price,Peerless WR ATL 6
6 CHI OL Ol-Bears,Chi   Garcia,Jeff QB SF 17
251               273
                 
Birds of Prey   Italian Eagles
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
21 NE QB Brady,Tom   Favre,Brett QB GB 19
18 OAK RB Garner,Charlie   Foster,Deshaun RB CAR 4
27 KC RB Holmes,Priest   Mack,Stacey RB HOU 13
5 BUF WR Shaw,Bobby   Glenn,Terry WR DAL 31
12 SF WR Streets,Tai   Brown,Tim WR OAK 8
9 NYG WR Toomer,Amani   Smith,Rod WR DEN 5
20 KC TE Gonzalez,Tony   Shockey,Jeremy TE NYG 12
4 NYJ DL Abraham,John   Lang,Kenard DL CLE 4
7 NO DL Grant,Charles   Carter,Kevin DL TEN 8
8 CHI DL Brown,Alex   Holmes,Kenny DL NYG 14
5 BAL DB Reed,Edward   Chavous,Corey DB MIN 17
31 NE DB Harrison,Rodney   Coleman,Marcus DB HOU 10
10 MIN DB Williams,Brian   Oneal,Deltha DB DEN 0
14 CHI LB Urlacher,Brian   Barrow,Mike LB NYG 16
16 TB LB Brooks,Derrick   Phifer,Roman LB NE 16
27 PHI LB Simoneau,Mark   Sharper,Jamie LB HOU 23
12 SEA PK Brown,Josh   Wilkins,Jeff PK STL 19
-8 NO ST St-Saints,No   St-Texans,Hou ST HOU 18
9 MIN OL Ol-Vikings,Min   Ol-Broncos,Den OL DEN 10
247               247
                 
Ike44   Furious Midget Klingon Horde
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
23 STL QB Bulger,Marc   Carter,Quincy QB DAL 26
7 CLE RB Green,William   Gordon,Lamar RB STL 2
0 TB RB Alstott,Mike   Faulk,Kevin RB NE 8
22 STL WR Holt,Torry   Moss,Randy WR MIN 25
24 CIN WR Johnson,Chad   Johnson,Keyshaw WR TB 1
11 HOU WR Johnson,Andre   Mccardell,Keena WR TB 20
0 IND TE Pollard,Marcus   Sharpe,Shannon TE DEN 22
10 GB DL Gbaja-Biamila,K   Taylor,Jason DL MIA 11
10 KC DL Hicks,Eric   Rice,Simeon DL TB 13
8 NE DL Seymour,Richard   Porcher,Robert DL DET 2
3 OAK DB Woodson,Charles   Wesley,Greg DB KC 13
9 NYG DB Williams,Shaun   Sharper,Darren DB GB 30
12 NO DB Bellamy,Jay   Green,Michael DB CHI 10
32 MIN LB Claiborne,Chris   Bulluck,Keith LB TEN 24
10 BUF LB Spikes,Takeo   Thomas,Robert LB STL 14
15 DEN LB Wilson,Al   Holmes,Earl LB DET 16
8 ATL PK Feely,Jay   Janikowski,Sebastian PK OAK 6
22 WAS ST St-Redskins,Was   Ol-Niners,Sf OL SF 18
7 OAK OL Ol-Raiders,Oak   St-Lions,Det ST DET 20
233               281
                 
Del Boca Vista Puppet Masters   Long Beach Lightning
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
-2 CLE QB Couch,Tim   Green,Trent QB KC 11
18 GB RB Green,Ahman   Williams,Ricky RB MIA 11
28 SEA RB Alexander,Shaun   Portis,Clinton RB DEN 24
2 NYG WR Hilliard,Ike   Muhammad,Muhsin WR CAR 9
12 OAK WR Rice,Jerry   Harrison,Marvin WR IND 0
27 NO WR Horn,Joe   Coles,Laveranues WR WAS 8
2 SEA DL Okeafor,Chike   Franks,Bubba TE GB 9
23 CAR DL Rucker,Michael   Hayward,Reggie DL DEN 1
15 SEA DB Hamlin,Ken   Daniels,Phillip DL CHI 13
17 CLE DB Griffith,Robert   Ogunleye,Adewal DL MIA 6
15 SEA DB Tongue,Reggie   Plummer,Ahmed DB SF 17
10 GB LB Barnett,Nick   Jammer,Quentin DB SD 13
4 SD LB Moreno,Zeke   Williams,Roy DB DAL 7
12 NYJ LB Cowart,Sam   Arrington,Lavar LB WAS 24
9 KC PK Andersen,Morten   Diggs,Nail LB GB 6
7 WAS OL Ol-Redskins,Was   Peterson,Julian LB SF 22
10 NO DL Jackson,Grady   Elam,Jason PK DEN 16
0 0 0 0   St-Patriots,Ne ST NE 12
0 0 0 0   Ol-Rams,Stl OL STL 15
209               224
                 
Rolling Thunder   Sandwich Town Statics
Pts Team Pos Name   Name Pos Team Pts
-1 PHI QB Mcnabb,Donovan   Brooks,Aaron QB NO 33
23 SF RB Hearst,Garrison   Duckett,T.j. RB ATL 4
31 SD RB Tomlinson,Ladainian   Henry,Travis RB BUF 30
0 BUF WR Moulds,Eric   Galloway,Joey WR DAL 0
21 STL WR Bruce,Isaac   Moss,Santana WR NYJ 23
5 TEN WR Mason,Derrick   Jackson,Darrell WR SEA 5
17 CLE DL Brown,Courtney   Crumpler,Alge TE ATL 9
9 TB DL Sapp,Warren   Ellis,Shaun DL NYJ 14
1 ATL DL Kerney,Patrick   Kearse,Jevon DL TEN 16
8 DAL DB Woodson,Darren   Strahan,Michael DL NYG 28
17 OAK DB Buchanon,Philli   Winfield,Antoine DB BUF 16
12 DAL DB Newman,Terence   Brown,Mike DB CHI 16
24 BAL LB Hartwell,Edgerton   Barber,Ronde DB TB 22
7 NYJ LB Lewis,Mo   Barber,Shawn LB KC 32
2 ATL LB Brooking,Keith   Morgan,Dan LB CAR 2
11 GB PK Longwell,Ryan   Lewis,Ray LB BAL 8
10 KC ST St-Chiefs,Kc   Kasay,John PK CAR 11
11 BAL OL Ol-Ravens,Bal   St-Panthers,Car ST CAR 16
0 0 0 0   Ol-Bucs,Tb OL TB 7
208               292

RED=changed result
GREEN=unchanged result
73APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Tue, Oct 21, 2003, 18:44 		The standings records & points are correct but they are jumbled (not sorted by W/L). There used to be a function I could hit to recalculate the records but they removed it therefore we'll have to live with ugly standings for the time being...
74IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Tue, Oct 21, 2003, 18:51 		ap10, what's wrong with the OL points i calculated before?
it seems to be 9 for denver and 7 for minnesota, as i posted......am i missing something?
75APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 00:24 		Its total offensive TD's not just rushing TD's...that would be the discrepency.
76IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 06:50 		r u sure?
on the league rules it says "rushing touchdowns", not "total touchdowns". r the rules wrong?
77Nerfherders
      ID: 308512415
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 10:31 		Last year, the original intention was to have rushing touchdowns only. However, AP10 failed to express that, so in fairness, he allowed all touchdowns to count for OL. This year, he said that all scoring would be the same. Thus, OL scoring still calculates for all touchdowns.
78IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 11:38 		so, damned deltha o'neal!!!!
he produced a big fat 0, without a tackle or an assist.....i know he's a returner but he'll never return on my team.
o'neal, your 0 costed us the game, so, you're gone.
79Nerfherders
      ID: 308512415
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 15:47 		So is that tie going to hold up? That seems almost impossible heh.
80dgrooves
      ID: 444581317
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 19:14 		Decimal scoring would likely have prevent the tie. Maybe its something we should look into for next year.
81IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 20:19 		i've been 1 yard away from the win with several players......doh.....
82APerfect10
      Leader
      ID: 535572315
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 23:05 		LAZIO, Nerf is correct. My original intention was only rushing TD's but I didnt specify that. Since I didnt specify that, we went with all offensive TD's. At the beginning of the year, I forgot to move to change it and I discussed it in an earlier thread (after week 1)...

decimal scoring is definately something we could look into...

PS. Yeah, well if my ST wouldnt have gotten me negative pts I would've won ;)
83Nerfherders
      ID: 308512415
      Thu, Oct 23, 2003, 10:32 		I think decimal scoring would just make things more confusing. Scoring in this league is such that ties are going to be very rare. I never actually expected to see one.

I dont see a problem with ties, personally. We could use bench players as tie breakers if you really wanted to prevent them.
84dgrooves
      ID: 12831011
      Thu, Oct 23, 2003, 12:28 		What is confusing about decimal scoring? 99 yards rushing is 9.9 points instead of 9.

It greatly decreases the chances of a tie and awards points for all yards, not just the 10th yard (or 25th, or 5th, whatever the case may be).
85IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Thu, Oct 23, 2003, 16:22 		if deltha o'neal would have been used in at least a pair of defensive plays it should have been a win.....and if brown could only have rushed for a yard more on that last play....and if shockey wouldn't have dropped that damned ball......
86Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 31649212
      Thu, Oct 23, 2003, 18:05 		I too prefer decimal scoring. I never understood why a player with 20 yards should score twice as many points as a player with 19, etc.
87Doug
      Sustainer
      ID: 31649212
      Mon, Oct 27, 2003, 17:22 		Wow... my matchup with Italian Eagles was looking pretty bleak after most of yesterday's games completed, but then in the late game Warfield and Wesley came up for me big time with 53 points between those 2 Kansas City DBs! Now I just need Jason Taylor to outscore Adrian Dingle by 14 or more points, which is at least a remote possibility! Go, JT, go! Dive, Brees, dive! Fumble, LT, fumble! =-)

Even if I don't win this week, this should be an exciting MNF game fantasy-wise as our matchup comes down to the wire... maybe Lazio will end up with his second tie of the year!

There's another close match too... Ike44 takes a 1 point advantage, KGB, and the Chargers OL into the game, up against Cowboy Homer's Chambers, Lassiter, and Miami OL. If Ike can somehow pull it off, it would be an impressive win, given that both of his RBs put up goose eggs this week.
88Bags @ work
      ID: 87482816
      Mon, Oct 27, 2003, 19:07 		Yeah, thanks for bringing up that I am about to get beat by a team that didn't even start a full team. You sure know how to make a guy feel good about his team. ;-)
89IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Tue, Oct 28, 2003, 10:40 		wow, it's a close game, but i think i've won even because the ST and OL scores are wrong again.
thanks god for the chicago bears ST cutting detroit's fantasy points!!
this ST thing seems to be my trade mark across the years, doesn't it???
anyway, without that damned tie i would have been 1 game away from the division leadership.....grrrrr......
90Bags@ work
      ID: 319561820
      Tue, Oct 28, 2003, 22:50 		Well we are half way through the season. My team is a flat 4-4. I don't know what it would hurt to try and mix things up a bit. If any of y'all feel the same lets try and make some deals. I am open to any and all trades.
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