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Subject: Yahoo Ultimate Football Classic II
Posted by: Hamid Toliyat
- [166571713] Sat, Jul 17, 2004, 15:00
Thread for discussion of our keeper league. For outsiders, we may need one or two managers to pick up a keeper team. Details will follow soon, including league rules and last year's teams. |
| 1 | deepsnapper
ID: 2344179
Sun, Jul 18, 2004, 00:32
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HT - I would recommend starting this thread in the regular football forum. This probably won't be seen as much until teams start drafting and that may be a little too late for our purposes.
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| 2 | Battles
ID: 9645199
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 10:45
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I think we're supposed to keep the thread in the standings section if it is a league discussion/draft. At least that's what I remember from years past. I know there are league discussions in the other forum, but let's just do what Guru liked in the past. If we need to recruit others we'll start a different thread in the other section.
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| 3 | Battles
ID: 9645199
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 10:46
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I'll try to post the teams sometime this week. I'll post most of the offensive players and maybe half of the d players.
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| 4 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 11:39
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Hamid Toliyat, are you from the Middle East?
Brad
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| 5 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 12:50
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It's the name of my first EE prof from Iran.
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| 6 | Battles
ID: 9645199
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 14:38
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Pappa-
Why don't you sign up? Are you afraid to get last again? Afraid that your new daughter gets to see how pitiful her pappa is at fantasy sports? That's what I thought.
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| 7 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 15:45
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I never got the message that showed the League Name and Password. I was waiting for you to sign up.
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| 8 | Battles
ID: 9645199
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 15:58
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Teams
Dead Poets
ahman, manning, holt, t henry, plummer, mason, moe williams, j walker, mc careins, kleinsasser, etc
North Orange
kitna, ricky, to, buckhalter, leftwich, pennington, heap, k robinson, glenn, dillon, micheal bennet, etc
Tom's Wookies (The Peleton)
holmes, culcrapper, hasselbeck, hines ward, s. davis, rod smith, pittman, jimmy smith, carr, d. foster,
Cades Boyz
Brad Johnson, Jeff garcia, f taylor, tony gonzo, mccardell, a train, tiki, i bruce, bettis
deepsnappers spiral
favre, edge, mcNappy, joe horn, Dom Davis, warrick, hambrick, andre johnson, pollard, kj, shipp
sangre
lt,mcnair, moss, brady, d jackson, duckett, l coles, barlow, garner, fielder, moulds
peter n
brooks, deuce mc, chad johnson, harrington, streets, boo, travis taylor, troy brown, thomas jones, stallworth,wil green, jerry porter
blobs
jamal lewis, faulk, westbrook, chambers, maddox,c martin, booker, crumpler, shockey, driver,
bonka
t green, alexander, s moss, delhommie, rudi, boston, wayne, vick, wheatley. peerless
legges
portis, harrison, boldin, q carter, steve smith, eddie, well dressed amani toomer, plax, bledsoe,
(I left off insignificant players...but decided to list Brad's players anyways)
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| 9 | Battles
ID: 9645199
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 16:03
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I don't know what address it originally went to, but I sent another yahoo invite to the iles_b address just now.
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| 10 | Peter N.
Donor
ID: 257161713
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 16:27
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IIRC, the keeper number will be 3. Also, I think that 3 can come from offense only. I don't agree with the proposal of forcing one keeper to be from your defense.
Let's keep the 7 IDPs, that's part of what made this league unique.
We still need to figure what draft date will work for everyone. I'm heading back to Texas Tech on the 27th of August so anything before that would work for me.
Scoring system from last year? I'd say keep it the same. I had no problems with it.
We also need to recruit some replacement managers.
Just some random thoughts for now..........
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| 11 | Battles
ID: 9645199
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 16:36
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d players
peter n
brooking, urlacher, a simmons, chavous, ed reed, roy williams, mike rucker
orange
edwards, ray lewis, barrow, greg wesley, mckinnon, archuletta, schulters
poets
thorton, andra davis, fujita, cowart, winfield, doss
sangre
foreman, barber, chad brown, stoutmire, al wilson, sharper, fletcher
deepsnapper
harrison, trotter, nguyen, k bell, brian russell, marvin jones, dre bly
legge
barton, minter, brian simmons, brooks, nate wayne, plumer, shaun ellis
bonka
farrior, ayodele, dhani jones, dexter jackson, fred thomas,spikes, dexter mccleon, rice, ogunleye
carbon
bullock, draft, shawn barber, nick barnett, darren sharper, adrian wilson. earl holmes
wooks
zach thomas, bruschi, armstead, nap harris, trufant, gary baxter, j peterson,robert thomas
cades
simoneau, hamlin, moreno, coakley,warfield, rob morris, vrabel
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| 12 | Battles
ID: 9645199
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 17:16
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Peter-
The draft date has been set for september 4th at 4:45. That was the last saturday and the lastest time that was available when I signed up.
I also think we should keep the league as worked out last year. 2 o players and 1 d player. No one knew that this was a keeper draft last year so I think that's as far as a lot of guys want to go. If this league continues beyond this year, we can add a couple more for next year.
As far as managers, we don't need to recruit anyone just yet. The only guy that is in limbo about playing is my bro (carbon blobs). Plus we do have 47 days till draft time.
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| 13 | Peter N.
Donor
ID: 257161713
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 17:22
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Well, count me out of the league if that's the draft date. Sorry, I won't be able to do that one.
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| 14 | Battles
ID: 9645199
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 17:33
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What could you be doing on a saturday at 4:45 in Lubbock? For the love, it's Lubbock!
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| 15 | Peter N.
Donor
ID: 257161713
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 18:28
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Battles - Oubviously, you've never been to Texas Tech and/or are not in college. People don't just sit around their computers/laptops on Saturdays.............even in Lubbock!
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| 16 | BoNkA
ID: 326291317
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 22:47
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Can't you set aside some time to draft? It's only one Saturday afternoon. I'll be in my 2nd year of college and don't see a reason why I can't draft. I'm not trying to start an argument, I would just like you to stay. But obviously that decision is up to you.
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| 17 | BoNkA
ID: 326291317
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 22:48
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And I forgot to add that it should be 2 offensive and 1 defensive. While I'd love to keep 3 guys from my offense, it's only fair because of the fact that this wasn't designated a keeper league at the start of last season. While it might not have changed all that much, it's still only right.
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| 18 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 22:53
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2 Offense 1 D sounds good, looking forward to repeating my utter domination of this format.
Note the fact that Ray Lewis is ranked as the #904 IDP this year and as such should be dropped to the re-draft pool.
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| 19 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 22:54
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And how the hell did I end up with LT and Moss?
Vegas just opened up the odds with Sangre to repeat at +135
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| 20 | Battles
ID: 9645199
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 12:32
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Peter-
I've been to Lubbock numerous times. My dad (engineering) and uncle (business) are both distinguished alumni at tech. I have already graduated from a much better university (A&M) and know that any college student can spare 1-2 hours on any given saturday night. Believe me, the beer and tumble weeds will be there after the draft. (Take all that with a grain of salt) We'd all like for you to stay, but like Bonka said, it's up to you.
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| 21 | Battles
ID: 9645199
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 12:35
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Culdeus-
I won this league last year and you came in second. You won the other rookie league.
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| 22 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 13:38
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Ricky Williams is on the trading block...
Agreed, 2 Off. and 1 Def.
Peter N., having been to college myself, I am very sympathetic to your cry. It is very hard to manage your time with all the intramural sports, late night movies, and parties that you are committed to...suck it up! College nights dont really start until after 9 PM anyways.
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| 23 | Peter N.
Donor
ID: 257161713
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 15:39
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Battles, you an A&M alum eh? That explains alot.........
I guess worst case senario is that I have to prerank players. I just can't commit to actually being at the draft with it being held on the first weekend back.
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| 24 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 15:41
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Unless Peter will still be asleep at 5:00 PM. Add me to the list of A&M grads with no sympathy for the undergraduate college life being too busy to draft.
Does anyone know if we have any other options to draft? I.e., can the commish assign players to a team if we drafted here?
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| 25 | BoNkA
ID: 326291317
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 16:25
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I'd strongly prefer to stay away from anything other than a live draft.
And I was thinking about trading Alexander for Williams about a week or two ago since I'm a Phins fan, but it's not worth it. As a Dolphins fan, I know how iffy our team is every year, and have no idea what kind of numbers Ricky will put up. While I think he'll have a better year than last year, Alexander is in a contract year and most likely should have the same, if not better, numbers than Ricky.
I'm sure someone will take you up on Ricky, I know I would have if this wasn't a contract year.
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| 27 | Battles
ID: 9645199
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 17:51
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What does it explain? I'm sure the other 4 A&M grads in this league would like to know, too. I'm always interested in how tech students perceive other universities. It just seems to me that they have a beef with everyone, but no one cares much about them.
On a serious note, we have no problem with letting tech high kids play in this league. If you want to pre-rank players that's fine too.
There is a way in yahoo to manually enter players onto teams. I prefer the live draft, but I'll wait for input from the others.
Ricky is washed up. Too many carries and joints are starting to add up.
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| 28 | Peter N.
Donor
ID: 257161713
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 18:03
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Um, you probably don't want to know what Texas Tech students think of Texas A&M. LOL, and this thought is also shared by just about everyone in the state except for the Texas A&M students and alumni.
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| 29 | Battles
ID: 9645199
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 18:17
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Oh come on. Everyone knows that the UT-A&M rivalry comes from a mutual respect. Other than UT, you guys are the only half way real school left. And like I said before, you guys try to be rivals with everyone, but no one cares enough about ya'll to want to be apart of it. Is it because all the students at tech got rejected by A&M and UT?
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| 30 | Peter N.
Donor
ID: 257161713
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 18:45
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No, I actually am going to Tech for their graduate Atmospheric Science program and not because I was rejected by UT or A&M.(didn't even apply to either) And as far as everything else you said, I'll save you the embarrassment.
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| 31 | Peter N.
Donor
ID: 257161713
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 19:11
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Anyways, fellas, I've thought about things further and am going to back out of the league. The draft is the most important, and fun, part of fantasy football for me and chances are slim to none that I'll be able to make that draft date. I'm assuming that date works for everyone else which is great. I can see 3 solid keeps for my team so you shouldn't have a problem finding a replacement.
I do appreciate the invite back. Best of luck this year to you all!
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| 32 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 19:35
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Ah yes, this was the league I sat McNair before heading out for the last Texas Stadium tailgate.
I'm sure we can get someone, where's marshall?
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| 33 | culdeus
ID: 406391518
Tue, Jul 20, 2004, 23:06
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"well dressed amani toomer"
nice
What was the IDP scoring so I can figure out who I want to keep.
Isn't the draft over labor day wknd? That's probably going to cause issues.
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| 34 | Battles
ID: 9645199
Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 10:08
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Do we want to reschedule the draft?
I went for the latest saturday at the latest time. I figured it was better to know as much as we could about injuries, holdouts, and depth charts before we draft. If we change, I doubt we'll get a weekend time.
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| 35 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 16:43
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I think a Saturday works the best, I say leave it where it is.
Peter- nice to have had you in the league, I'll cut you some slack since you are in grad school :)
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the only think I remember about the IDP scoring is that solo's were 1 pt and assists were 0.5. I think int's were 3. I say we back off on tackles a little bit, like .75 for solos and .5 for assists.
Battles, since you aren't working you should make an excel spreadsheet to figure out the scoring system.
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| 36 | Peter N.
Donor
ID: 257161713
Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 16:50
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HT, I am currently an undergrad student(heading into sophmore year) at Texas Tech, but will be getting my Masters in Atmospheric Science at Tech after I graduate with my Geophysics degree. Sorry for the confusion.
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| 37 | BoNkA
ID: 326291317
Wed, Jul 21, 2004, 18:42
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I think 1 and .5 are fine for tackles. If you look at Lewis, the top D scorer, he only had 186 points, compared to the 400+ that Holmes had. 186 is well under most top offensive players and is also above most of the D players. So if it were to be dropped, the IDPs would be less important and not as much would be put into them. I think the way it is now creates more draft strategies.
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| 38 | deepsnapper
ID: 2344179
Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 02:09
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I hadn't realized the draft had been set for Labor Day Weekend.. That's not a good weekend for me. I'm will have to remove myself from the league due to personal reasons. My family is celebrating my parents 54th wedding anniverary that weekend and I won't have PC access most of the weekend (not that they'd let me get around one if I did have one). If you can draft of Labor Day weekend, go for it. I'll be at Possum Kingdom.
Additionally, one of the main reasons for joining last year was to play in a league with Peter N. This was the only league we were in last season. This is no longer the case so I think it's time for me to move on. You're a great bunch of coaches and I don't believe you'll have any problems finding anyone to fill the open slots. You've got a couple of months after all. ;)
culdeus & leggestand - I'll see you guys in RIFC. ;)
Good luck to everyone during NFL 2004!
ds
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| 39 | leggestand
Sustainer
ID: 451036518
Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 08:55
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I am open to draft at almost anytime. I like the live draft option, but I don't mind doing a slow draft at the forum. Having the live draft on Labor Day weekend could end being a bad time for a bunch a people.
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| 40 | Battles
ID: 156532210
Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 11:53
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Well since the league is falling apart lets change the date.
How about August 21st in the evening?
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| 41 | BoNkA
ID: 326291317
Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 12:03
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August 21st in the evening is ok with me. I'd rather have the date changed than lose half the league. It was a good idea to have as late a draft as possible for injuries and such..but what's the point if there's no league?
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| 42 | BoNkA
ID: 326291317
Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 12:05
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After thinking about that..unless there's more than just Peter N and deep that have problems with it..we should keep it. Like they said, we'll have no problem getting replacements. I think we should be able to bring in some quality managers and make the league a lot more fun, also.
I say we take a tally of who can draft at the original time, see how many we have, then take a vote on keeping or changing that time.
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| 43 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 15:30
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I'm fine with the September date, but if others object I can do August 21 too.
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| 44 | culdeus
ID: 406391518
Thu, Jul 22, 2004, 19:45
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Ditto #43.
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| 45 | BoNkA
ID: 326291317
Sat, Jul 24, 2004, 17:49
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Yeah, that's basically what I was trying to say. I'm fine either way.
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| 46 | culdeus
ID: 406391518
Sun, Jul 25, 2004, 14:20
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How will you handle people taht don't want to keep one or two O players? Extra picks? When?
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| 47 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 166571713
Sun, Jul 25, 2004, 17:06
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Not sure Ricky Williams is a tradeable commodity anymore. What a pot-head.
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| 48 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 10:13
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I will forver despise Ricky now.
The worst team in the league just took a big loss. I predict it will take 2 years of good drafting on my part in order to recover and actually field a competitive team now.
GULP
Pappa
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| 49 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 10:29
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I think you'll be fine, you still have dillon and pennington/leftwich. There will be RB's available in round 1.
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| 50 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 12:25
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Except that the Patriots have indicated they are still committed to using Kevin Faulk as their 3rd down RB.
I am in deep manure.
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| 51 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 14:41
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I vote re-draft.
Everyone will know pre-draft that this a keeper league. (Not simply seeing how well your team played and then declaring it a keeper league.)
WITH EMPHASIS,
Pappa
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| 52 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 15:58
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We said from the beginning that it would be keeper. I don't even know why you care, you've never come close to winning any of our football leagues for 6 years now.
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| 54 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 16:18
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So I tried to stretch the truth a hair...
My real understanding was that we determined this to be a keeper league post-draft.
...and my real understanding is NEVER wrong.
Daddy
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| 55 | Battles
ID: 236352615
Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 16:35
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What about t.o.?
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| 56 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 16:40
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But I think it will take me two years of quality drafting to really compete.
The winning team always has a dominant RB as the cornerstone.
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| 57 | BoNkA
ID: 33632621
Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 22:11
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I say we keep it a keeper as originally planned. You would have been OK with it if Ricky was still around. That's the breaks, stuff happens. I took Vick and Price last year and Vick went down, cutting out one of my tops picks for most of the year and really hurting Price's performance. There's going to be RBs available in the 1st real round. Most will keep 1 RB and 1 QB, so don't get too worried. Just be glad he retired now and not after you kept him.
No matter when you officially start a keeper league, things are going to happen. I'm sure Ricky wouldn't have been taken any lower last year if it was determined a keeper league. I mean...the guy ran for 1850+ yards, who wouldn't want him on their keeper team?
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| 58 | Battles
ID: 326302810
Wed, Jul 28, 2004, 14:15
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FYI
I wrote peter and deepsnapper an email asking them if changing the draft date to sat august 21st or 28th in the evening would allow them to draft in our league. I think it's in the leagues best interest to have as many people return as possible.
As of right now 3 teams are not returning.
Deepsnapper
Peter
Carbon Blobs
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| 59 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Fri, Jul 30, 2004, 11:06
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Any response from those guys? I'd like to get everything settled asap so we don't have to worry about things.
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| 60 | Battles
ID: 546542917
Fri, Jul 30, 2004, 13:25
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I got an email from deepsnapper yesterday that said he was going to talk to peter about it. It sounds like it's a package deal. Hopefully I'll here something over the weekend.
If anyone would like to nominate a replacement for the carbon blobs team, we can get that going.
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| 61 | Marshall
ID: 3970214
Mon, Aug 02, 2004, 15:11
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what up...let me know about the draft day...the eve of the 21st is no good for me...wifes B-day...earlier in the day would be better.
My tean is horrid...no good keepers on O or D.
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| 62 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Mon, Aug 02, 2004, 18:16
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What up Marshall.
Tiled my first floor this weekend. Pretty good for the first try. Not sure if there will ever be a second try.
Hope everybody is doing good. Looking forward to the season.
Ricky Williams is still on the trading block.
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| 63 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Mon, Aug 02, 2004, 18:18
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Battles,
I got a good nomination for Carbon Blobs replacement....Hamid Toliyat's mom!
OHHHHHHHH.
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| 64 | Battles
ID: 47726310
Tue, Aug 03, 2004, 11:26
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Pappa-
I'll give you one bottle of masking agent for Ricky. On that note also, I'd rather have a high Ricky tiling my floor than you.
Also, why are you nominating someone's mom who could totally destroy you in any fantasy sport.
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| 65 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Tue, Aug 03, 2004, 16:01
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We need to get this wrapped up soon so we can get some decent fill-in managers. Also need to finalize the draft details and keepers.
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| 66 | Battles
ID: 47726310
Tue, Aug 03, 2004, 17:46
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I'm ready to get it wrapped up as well. We need Clay to sign up and 3 teams to fill in.
I haven't heard from Peter so I think him and deepsnapper are probably out.
The draft is staying on the original date and time. Keepers are 2 o and 1 d.
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| 67 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Tue, Aug 03, 2004, 23:51
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send me league and pass again
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| 68 | Eugene
ID: 40720321
Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 01:27
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who does the blobs have on team
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| 69 | Battles
ID: 47726310
Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 12:25
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Eugene-
The teams are listed at the top of this thread.
Jamal Lewis and Marsha Faulk would probably end up as your guys.
Peter and Deepsnapper are out as well.
For the rest of the guys, how are we going to decide who gets what team. First to come gets his pick? Random selection? Any ideas?
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| 70 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 13:37
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First come, first serve on the available teams.
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| 71 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 14:47
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Can I switch teams?
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| 72 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 14:52
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Quincy Carter...GONE.
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| 73 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 19:03
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Expansion draft with the dead teams usually works. 3 rounds based on some virtual coin flip or something.
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| 74 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 19:35
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System,
QB 1/25yd 6TD -2INT
RB 1/10yd 6TD -2FR 1/rec
WR/TE 1/10yd 6TD -2FR 1/rec
Standard 3,4,5,-1,-1 for PK
1tackle .5assist 1 block pass 2FR 3INT 2Saftey 2BlockPunt
Start 2QB 2RB 3WR TE PK 7IDP
If there were some other minor things I can't remember them and they aren't on my spreadsheet.
I might propose dropping QB TDs to 4, I've sort of turned a corner on that this year but whatever.
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| 75 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Thu, Aug 05, 2004, 01:59
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Well how's this for an idea?
We get 3 replacement managers (or however many we need) and randomly select the team slot they receive. However, they only get the draft spots and not any keepers. The first 3 rounds of the draft will still consist of everyone taking their keepers, except those 3 teams. They can select 3 players from a pool made up of the players from those teams last year.
That way it's not pick the best draft position/player combo for the first person in. It might be more fair this way, but then again it might not be. I didn't look at the players or the draft positions, it was just an idea.
I'd also be fine with randomly selecting teams for the 3 new guys and doing everything normally.
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| 76 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Thu, Aug 05, 2004, 10:54
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I like Bonka's idea. Anyone know any good managers willing to sign up?
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| 77 | Battles
ID: 47726310
Thu, Aug 05, 2004, 11:04
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I think we'll go with Bonka's idea, so everthing can stay within one yahoo draft. We'll figure out a good way to randomly select positions.
The 3 teams each will get a top guy...Deuce, Edge, Jamal Lewis and a decent second from McNappy, D. Davis, Faulk, Favre, etc.
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| 78 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Thu, Aug 05, 2004, 14:26
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I was just thinking of something. Is everyone going to be there for the live draft? We can get away with someone not being there ONLY if they prerank according to their keepers. But if someone misses the draft and doesn't have preranks set up correctly, the entire draft can be messed up. That being said, I would suggest that everyone, whether you plan on being here or not, to prerank your 3 keepers just incase something bizzare happens.
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| 79 | Battles
ID: 47726310
Thu, Aug 05, 2004, 14:38
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Good idea Bonka.
I've had plummer and moe williams in my 1&2 slots since I signed us up.
Hopefully everyone is going to be there. If not, I'd like to know just in case we can make a change so you can be there.
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| 80 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Thu, Aug 05, 2004, 19:08
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There are always trades to fix any auto draft problems.
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| 81 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 19:49
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I'm going to keep my keepers a secret until the draft. There is SOME strategy based off who everyone else is keeping. Such as if you have the first pick after the keeper rounds and someone didn't keep a QB you'd like to have which would allow you to keep your 2 good RBs. You know..something like that.
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| 82 | Promize
ID: 9432612
Sat, Aug 07, 2004, 17:08
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You all need a player to take a spot?
If so drop me an email.
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| 83 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Sat, Aug 07, 2004, 18:38
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I'm looking to move up in the draft from my current position. I'm willing to offer picks 10,11 (my 1st and second picks after keepers) and my 3rd or 4th round pick (depending on position) as a swap for someone elses 1st and 2nd. Who knows, I might be willing to give more. Just drop me an email.
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| 84 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Sat, Aug 07, 2004, 18:48
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We need to decide on the # of bench players. It's currently set a 4 which some people had objections to last year. I think 5 would be good.
That allows you to keep 1qb,1rb,1wr and 2 misc. other players.
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| 85 | Promize
ID: 171718
Sat, Aug 07, 2004, 19:12
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I'm set up, do I need to pick some keepers or something? If so, which 3 teams do I choose from?
And it is 2 Off / 1 Def?
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| 86 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Sat, Aug 07, 2004, 19:23
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you'll select from a pool of players from the teams of deepsnapper, carbon blobs, and peter n. No need to do it now. You'll just select them with your first 3 picks in the draft which we'll all be doing. Does that make sense?
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| 87 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Sat, Aug 07, 2004, 20:34
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More bench, yes yes.
I'll trade Barlow or McNair for a draft pick as well.
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| 88 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Sat, Aug 07, 2004, 22:01
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I think 5 bench slots is good, 4 didn't seem like enough, especially with all those IDPs.
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| 89 | Marshall
ID: 3970214
Sun, Aug 08, 2004, 08:35
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Can I act like a new team manager so I can actually have a decent player on my team?
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| 90 | Marshall
ID: 3970214
Sun, Aug 08, 2004, 08:54
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Hey Pappa, sounds like you are staying busy between work, being a dad and being a handyman. You need to finish all those projects before FF starts or you wont have any time to research. Talk to ya midweek...off to LA to catch some tuna.
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| 91 | Promize
ID: 871189
Sun, Aug 08, 2004, 14:53
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Is there a draft order already set?
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| 92 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Sun, Aug 08, 2004, 18:05
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It's reverse order from the final standings from last season. I don't have the standings, only the rosters. Someone else does, however. I just don't remember who. For all I know they might be lost in this thread somewhere. But if not, hopefully whoever has them can post them here.
I'm pretty sure I'm the 3rd or 4th pick, which I can thank Michael Vick for.
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| 93 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Sun, Aug 08, 2004, 18:29
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Draft Order-(forum name)
1. North Orange (Pappa)
2. New Team
3. Bonka (Bonka)
4. Peleton (Hamid)
5. Legges (leggestand)
6. New Team
7. New Team
8. Cade's Boyz (marshall)
9. Sangre (culdeus)
10. Dead Poets (battles)
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| 94 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Sun, Aug 08, 2004, 18:42
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I updated the bench spots to 5.
What do others think about someone scrapping there team and going into the player pool? Maybe doing it with a penalty like only 1 offense keeper, sacrificing a first round draft pick.
Also, as Clay has offered I'm assuming we can trade the rights of players that we're not going to keep for draft picks. The person receiving the player will have to use a keeper spot to retain that player.
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| 95 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Sun, Aug 08, 2004, 18:45
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If we're trading rights to players, I'll listen to offers for Holt.
Also we need 2 players. Do we want to post something in the football forum?
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| 96 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Sun, Aug 08, 2004, 18:54
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We can also do something that culdeus mentioned in post 46. If someone isn't happy with any or more than one keeper we can maybe give them an extra pick in the first round. I'm sure there is some chart out on the internet that gives a guideline on the worth of picks. Ideas?
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| 97 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Sun, Aug 08, 2004, 19:18
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Lastly for tonight, I've updated the points per post 74, which is right except reception were .5. Please go to yahoo to review all the points and categories.
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| 98 | Promize
ID: 871189
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 12:22
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Battles, any way you can let us new teams know our position?
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| 99 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 12:46
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Hopefully soon. We just need to get 2 more managers. At that point we'll pick the spots randomly.
If you know of some solid players feel free to invite them. If not, I'll post something in the football forum later. Later because I just got bit by a brown recluse that was hidding in my shirt. Dr. appointment is a 1:40. Wish me luck.
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| 100 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 13:31
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Hopefully not too much of your skin rots off.
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| 101 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 13:40
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Thanks tom. Hopefully it wasn't a brown recluse, but knowing it was hidding in my shirt, hurt like holy bejeebers and has a constant stinging at the bite means that there is a strong possibility is was. Didn't catch the spider because I was outside and immediately threw my shirt off once I saw the spider. It was brown and the size of a silver dollar. Man, I wish I had insurance if it is. : (
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| 102 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 13:49
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I liked interceptions being +/-3.
How about upping the points for sacks to +4? A lot of the sack guys don't do much else if they are on the D-line.
What about passing touchdowns as +5?
What about adding return yards? 1 pt for 40 kickoff return, 1 pt per 25 punt returns? Adds just a little bonus, and maybe Dante Hall could be a regular starter
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| 103 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 13:50
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Go to an ugent care instead of the emergency room. Cheaper.
Temporary insurance is cheap, go to ehealthinsurance.com
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| 104 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 14:08
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I'm just going to a family doctor. Had cheap insuance but it expired on the 3rd. Ugh.
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| 105 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 17:04
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I'm going to live. Doctor doesn't think it was a recluse because he said you usually gon't feel the bite. Just have the symptoms of a bad wasp/bee bite. Had to make sure though.
As far as scoring, I'm fine with int's being either, I don't think a sack is worth 4 tackles, I don't like trying to devalue qb td's because this league is based on making the qb somewhat more important by starting 2, and I don't mind very low return points but don't want JJ Moses types being anything more than a #3or 4 wr.
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| 106 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 11755919
Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 21:01
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I agree with the return points being low. I thought it would bump up guys like Troy Brown or Freddie Mitchell just a little bit, but keep a JJ Moses type as an option only on bye weeks that people are crunched for players. We should make sure that a crappy guy doesn't become average, but it will make the receiver position a little more interesting. None of the big name guys return anything (IIRC) so one guy won't be head and shoulders above everyone.
About sacks, it just feels like linebackers are way overvalued do to tackles and assists counting. We should look at the IDP's separately from the Offense and balance it out a little.
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| 107 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 13:29
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hey guys - i've been looking for ONE keeper football league to be in.
i've played with some of y'all in various leagues, so i'm interested in the possibility here - a few questions though:
1. will i be taking over a team, or a true expansion team - either way, what's the provision.
2.when's the draft?
3. anything else? lol
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| 108 | Promize
ID: 871189
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 13:41
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Since I am new also tree, we draft 3 players from the 3 teams who left the league...
after the 3 players, it is an open draft
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| 109 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 14:04
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ugh. having tried to wade through this thread, it *appears* you're looking at an august 21 draft date.
i'm out of town that weekend.
have y'all given any thought to a slow draft?
(sorry, i know i haven't been asked to join, just throwing ideas out)
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| 110 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 14:08
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As far as I know the draft is still set for September 4th.
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| 111 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 14:59
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Yeah, the draft is still Sept 4th, that is why we are looking for replacement managers, because those who played last year could not draft that day.
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| 112 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 16:35
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Tree-
Some quick background is that we drafted last year before we decided it would be a keeper league. Thus, we're only doing 3 keepers this year. Next year we'll probably bump it up a couple.
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| 113 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 16:53
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cool. i'm all for a keeper league. i'd be curious to see what players are available...
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| 114 | Battles
ID: 23716613
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 17:02
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The players available come from the teams of carbon blobs, peter and deepsnapper. Offense players are listed in post 8 and IDP's are listed in post 11. You'll get the draft spot of one of those teams by random selection and then pick 2 offensive players and 1 d player from the 3 team player pool.
If you want to sign up I'll send you an email through yahoo.
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| 115 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 17:48
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what the hell. count me in. :o)
two more questions - the three "new" teams get to select their keepers in a sort of three-round supplmental draft prior to the regular draft?
and does everyone else get to keep two offensive and one defensive players?
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| 116 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 19:20
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Yes, everyone keeps 2 Off and 1 Def player(s). However, the new teams do not have a supplemental draft. Instead, while we're all keeping our players in the 1st three rounds, you guys will be 'keeping' from the player pool from those 3 teams.
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| 117 | Tree
ID: 176431421
Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 20:50
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color me confused, although i think we have the same terminology for different things.
the first three rounds are players only from the abandoned teams, and only for the new manager.
then EVERY manager, and EVERY player left in the free agent pool is in for rounds four on...correct?
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| 118 | Battles
ID: 29761016
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 08:54
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You got it kinda right. Rounds 1-3 teams only take players from their team last year or ,for the new teams, the 3 team player pool. After round 4 it's just like a regular draft.
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| 119 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 10:14
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You got it kinda right. Rounds 1-3 teams only take players from their team last year or ,for the new teams, the 3 team player pool. After round 4 it's just like a regular draft.
LOL. wouldn't it be easier if you guys who have teams from last year just declared their 2 offensive and 1 defensive keeper, then the three new teams do a super fast draft of the players on the three "abandoned" teams?
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| 120 | Promize
ID: 871189
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 10:54
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They gotta place their players anyways ...
So the first 3 rounds they are just gonna put up their keepers. In essence, we are doing the same thing, but from a small pool
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| 121 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 11:28
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ah. ok. got it.
if y'all need an excel grid posted as we go, i can handle that. as most who have drafted will tell you, mine have lots of pretty colors. :o)
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| 122 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 13:28
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I think we have to do it that way if we want to do a live yahoo draft.
If the three new managers want to arrange ahead of time who they will select to save time later I don't see a problem with that.
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| 123 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 13:36
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ah. ok. i get it. i didn't realize it was a live draft.
NOW it makes sense...
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| 124 | Battles
ID: 29761016
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 13:41
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I sent an email out to LilPeepers who expressed interest in the other forum. If he signs up we've got our 10 and we can move on to discussing the finer points of the league. Issues include....
1. Deciding on # of keepers for next year (before the draft this time)
2. Decide if we want to give supplemental draft pick(s) to people who don't want to keep 3.
3. Any scoring issues. (Culdeus sent me the setting from last year and they have been updated once again.)
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| 125 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 15:54
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I don't see how we can give extra draft picks to someone who doesn't want to keep 3 guys. We can't do it in yahoo. Nobody should have that big of a problem keeping 3 guys.
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| 126 | leggestand
Sustainer
ID: 451036518
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 15:58
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1. This is my first keeper league, but I would think something along the lines of 6 offensive and 3 defensive keepers would be good numbers.
2. I think everyone must be required to keep 3 players (and whatever amount we agree upon for next year).
3. I have no qualms with the scoring right now.
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| 127 | Battles
ID: 237131115
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:19
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Bonka- It wouldn't be that hard to give someone an extra pick in the first round of the regular draft. We'd just have to do it on the honor system. He'd have to tell us his pick and then we'd let him draft him in the last round or something. The only person I feel bad for is Cade's Boyz due to the fact that he wasn't there for the draft last year. His only real keeper is Fred Taylor. that's the only reason I brought it up. I guess he can trade for barlow or holt off other teams.
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| 128 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:50
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The guy's got Jeff Garcia, Marc Bulger, Fred Taylor, Tiki Barber, and Tony Gonzales. Garcia and Taylor look good as keepers to me.
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| 129 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:58
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1. if you don't want three keepers, you can have a supplemental pick. at the end of the draft...
2. six offensive players seems like a lot. i'd vote for maybe 4 offensive and 2 defensive.
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| 130 | Battles
ID: 237131115
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 17:05
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Let's be honest that none of those guys comes close to being a second round pick. I'd say that Gonzo is a late 3rd at best with Tiki, and Garcia following maybe in round 4.
We'll just say 3 keepers and give them the opportunity to trade draft picks for players already on teams.
Are pre draft trades ok with everyone?
Thinking about that, we'd have to get the 3 new teams set with players so that they could participate. ugh.
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| 131 | leggestand
Sustainer
ID: 451036518
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 17:05
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I forgot how many offensive starters we have in the league. I agree that 6 is a lot. 4 or 5 would be better.
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| 132 | Battles
ID: 237131115
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 17:17
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I'd say 5 offense and 3 defense.
That allow you to keep you top players and 1-2 prospects.
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| 133 | BoNkA
ID: 556572721
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 17:33
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Pre draft trades are fine with me. And to involve the new guys, they could trade their pick. So whoever has the first pick out of the 3 of them might be able to trade that pick for 1 top player as that pick could be used to grab Duece, Edge, or McNabb.
As for next year, I think 4 O and 3 D would be good for keepers.
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| 134 | leggestand
Sustainer
ID: 451036518
Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 17:42
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To put my actual vote on keepers, I will go with 5 off, 3 def.
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| 135 | Battles
ID: 237131115
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 09:57
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***Trade***
Sangre(culdeus) sends Barlow and his second pick in the open draft for Legges 1st round pick in the open draft.
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| 136 | leggestand
Sustainer
ID: 451036518
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 10:02
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The trade is dependant on the draft being snake. I am pretty sure it is, but I can't find it written down anywhere.
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| 137 | Battles
ID: 237131115
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 10:05
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For the 3 new guys I'm going to pick a number from 1-40 and send it to culdeus via email. The closest gets to pick what position he wants in the draft and so on. This will allow them to participate in trades.
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| 138 | Battles
ID: 237131115
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 10:06
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Ya, we'll continue with a snake draft....even though it kills the commish.
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| 139 | Battles
ID: 237131115
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 10:19
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Peyton Manning, Travis Henry and Torry Holt are on the trading block.
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| 140 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 10:47
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1. can i reccomend we start a seperate thread for trades?
2. can we also get a post of just the players available from the three defunct teams?
3. the three new teams - are we drafing first, second, third?
4. as far as drafting - after this season, we should go to a regular draft. a snake draft is used to keep people on a level playing field. once you have a full keeper season, the worst should draft first, the best last, and then start over, like in the real sports world.
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| 141 | leggestand
Sustainer
ID: 451036518
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 10:50
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I agree with Tree on his #4.
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| 142 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 10:51
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5. let me again suggest we not do a LIVE draft, and instead do one on here.
that would allow a quick hour or so of the three new teams to make their keeper picks and such.
it's not really fair to us with the current system, because we don't have any clue who our keepers are, and thusly can't make trades early like everyone else can.
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| 143 | Battles
ID: 237131115
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 10:55
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I'm fine with starting another thread for trades and anything that doesn't need to get lost in this thread. I'll go ahead and do that. It's also almost time to start another thread continuing this one.
I sent an email out concering the random selection of draft postitions for the new guys. I'll let you guys decide whether you want to go ahead and draft teams from the playe pool or just trade picks.
I'm fine with a non-snake draft next year. The keepers just don't go deep enough this year.
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| 144 | Battles
ID: 237131115
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 10:56
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Let's just hold a quick supplemental draft after I get the 3 teams numbers between 1-40. Then the live draft is perfectly ok.
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| 145 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 11:01
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thanks battles. appreciate your quick thoughts and action. (sorry. i get super excited at the start of a season! LOL)
the one issue with a live draft in a keeper league is if someone doesn't make it, and the computer autopicks for them someone who is already been drafted.
i do not believe there is a way to eliminate players from the draft pool. did that make sense?
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| 146 | leggestand
Sustainer
ID: 451036518
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 11:06
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I think everyone needs to autorank their 3 keepers as 1, 2, 3 prior to the draft. I have my 3 players in there already.
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| 147 | Battles
ID: 237131115
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 11:30
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Like Leggestand said, we all just need to pre-rank our keepers.
Also, I hope that everyone is going to be at the live draft. That's essentially why 2 of the other teams left. It is indeed essential that you be there.
Lastly I started another thread and it has the 1st trade and the 3 team player pool posted in it.
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| 148 | BoNkA
ID: 8731129
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 12:00
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Yeah, the idea of having a quick draft for the 3 new guys to pick their keepers for the main draft sounds good. Now Battles has to randomly select which team slot they get so they know where they are in both drafts.
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| 149 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 17:43
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FREE RotoWorld.com Commissioner
i have yet to look at this deeply, but i wonder if this helps with our waiver issues...
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| 150 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 17:47
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I have to say this is one whacked out league, because of all the posistion starts it almost becomes a deep league even with 10 people. I'm glad we're drafting late.
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| 151 | Battles
ID: 237131115
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 18:09
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I'm assuming that whacked out is your term for the best set up fantasy football league ever. Anyone can draft and manage a regular format team. I think it's all around a better challenge the way we have it set up.
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| 152 | mike
ID: 197131217
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 18:15
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the joys of working midnights. got the email invitation just now.
if another spot opens up keep me in mind.
thanks
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| 153 | Battles
ID: 237131115
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 18:20
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Will do Mike. You'll be the first contact if someone decides they can't be in the league or participate in the draft. Thanks.
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| 154 | Promize
ID: 871189
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 19:15
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Did you get everyones number pick on the 3 new teams?
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| 155 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 11755919
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 22:18
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I vote for 5 offensive keepers and 2 defensive for next year. 5 on offense leaves enough room to keep a prospect.
I will listen to offers for Michael Pittman, and I'll throw in one domestic abuse conviction in a 2-for-1.
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| 156 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 22:32
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No I'm pumped so far I'm in all RB-RB-RB leagues this will be a good change of pace. A real thinkin man's draft. Throw in more keepers = good times.
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| 157 | Battles
ID: 417261218
Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 07:17
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Some of you have mentioned the rotoworld commisioner as a possible way to fix the waiver wire issue that arises in yahoo, but I don't agree with the way it's done in rotoworld. They set the waiver priority weekly from last to 1st. I personally like the way it's done in yahoo better. That priority on waivers is based on the number of waiver claims made by a team. This adds strategy to whether you should use your waiver for a one week wonder or save it for when you really need it.
I have no problem doing it freezing the waivers manually wach week in yahoo.
Thoughts?
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| 158 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Fri, Aug 20, 2004, 21:29
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I started up a draft on OTC at kafenatid I just propose this because.
a)this league is not for money and a fsst draft is really designed to rob money from your friends who come in with a FFL mag from july
b)I'd hate to miss out on a good MTB ride or a dove hunt on labor day weekend if given the chance
c)I'm gonna win this league slow or fast draft anyway so it doesn't matter
d)OTC is the best thing since TIVO
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| 159 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Fri, Aug 20, 2004, 21:30
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I do realize the original people bailed because of the timing, this bothers me alot. But, I didn't know just how cool OTC was and of it's existance then.
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| 160 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Sat, Aug 21, 2004, 00:28
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I'll try to talk to Brad and John about a slow draft this weekend. It seems like they would have the most trouble with it. Brad travels during the week and John has very limited internet access since he teaches school.
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| 161 | Pappa
ID: 597531120
Sat, Aug 21, 2004, 00:36
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My travel is so sporadic, it would be easier for me to sit down and do it in one 3-4 hour draft. But whatever you guys would like to do is fine. For those that are working, a long drawn out draft doesnt seem ideal as we would be distracted many times over the course of a week.
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| 162 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 11755919
Sat, Aug 21, 2004, 16:18
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I'd rather do it slow. Maybe Brad and John could email a list of players to someone who could pick for them if it was going to take them too long.
I say if we do this we should get started soon.
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| 163 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Sat, Aug 21, 2004, 21:38
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I have to give up on organizing another draft time. I originally picked a day and time that I thought everyone could make it, and have been working around that the whole time. Everytime I talk to someone about a new slow draft or whatever it's a different preference and answer. If someone wants to go through the trouble of notifying everyone about a possible draft change, get EVERYONE's ok, and then setting the rest of the stuff up, then go for it.
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| 164 | Pappa
ID: 597531120
Sat, Aug 21, 2004, 21:39
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I am fine with either way. I usually have internet access after 6PM when I'm out of town. Would there be a time limit for each pick? Or will the draft stop for an indefinite amount of time until a pick is made?
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| 165 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Sun, Aug 22, 2004, 11:27
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I can still make it for that time but, obviously 23 rounds of a draft late on a sat of a holiday weekend is not prefferable to me, but I can still show up. I thought I'd throw out OTC as another option that wasn't there at the onset. We can still try to chew up lots of rounds at one time when possible.
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| 166 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Sun, Aug 22, 2004, 18:05
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I'm ok with doing a slow draft. I'm just saying I'm not going to be the one to organize it. If we're going to do it we need to start tomorrow.
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| 167 | Tree @ parent's haus
ID: 20732218
Sun, Aug 22, 2004, 19:28
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seems like stuff is going on. i'm not home, but will try and catch up later tonight.
if someone wants to help me out - in an nutshell, what's up?
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| 168 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Sun, Aug 22, 2004, 19:44
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some people are wanting to do a slow draft on the boards since the draft is on a holiday weekend. everyone can make the original time, but some prefer to have that night free.
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| 169 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Sun, Aug 22, 2004, 20:08
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Looks like culdeus has set up an OTC draft on the kafenatid wedsite. Hopefully everyone can check in here and be ready to go with keepers by sometime tomorrow or tuesday.
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| 170 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 137342216
Sun, Aug 22, 2004, 21:47
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We just need the ID for the OTC draft.
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| 171 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 137342216
Sun, Aug 22, 2004, 21:50
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Draft Order-(forum name)
1. North Orange (Pappa)
2. New Team
3. Bonka (Bonka)
4. Peleton (Hamid)
5. Legges (leggestand)
6. New Team
7. New Team
8. Cade's Boyz (marshall)
9. Sangre (culdeus)
10. Dead Poets (battles)
***Can we update this with the new teams?
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| 172 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Sun, Aug 22, 2004, 21:56
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The draft will start with keepers so it will be reverse order from above. I'll list the order in the next post.
The OTC ID for the league is 14 and the password is laura. (I'm assuming no one is going to raid our draft if I give out the info.)
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| 173 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Sun, Aug 22, 2004, 22:03
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We need to start with keepers in this order.
1. Dead Poets - Battles
2. Sangre - Culdeus
3. Cade's Boys - Marshall
4. PromizeRams - Promize
5. Ctown Comets22 - LilPeepers
6. Legges Legion - Leggestand
7. The Peleton - Hamid
8. Bonka Bombers - Bonka
9. The Ole Kick - Tree
10. North Orange - Pappa
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| 174 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Sun, Aug 22, 2004, 23:29
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I have signed up for the OTC draft but I cant see anyones else's team. The site is a little confusing at first glance...
Marshall probably wont be able to access the website at work...someone should call him and make sure he gets on Monday night.
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| 175 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Sun, Aug 22, 2004, 23:32
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Also, I am assuming there will be no time limit on making a pick.
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| 176 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 00:42
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I've already called marsh and will sign up for him if he can't get on at work. I'd also be picking his keepers. Hopefully all the keepers could be posted tomorrow.
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| 177 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 00:44
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As for the time limit, I think we need to set it at 4-6 hours. Hopefully it never comes to that, but at some point we have to move on. I think people should be able to make their pick within an hour in most cases.
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| 178 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 09:30
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I held off on sending the OTC info because I didn't want to come off as beating everyone into it as I did in another draft without getting input from everyone.
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Your league draft has been set up at Kafenatid.net! Use this e-mail to invite the other managers in the league to join the draft.
To sign up for the league draft, please go to http://www.kafenatid.net/on_the_clock/index.php and click on the "Register For a Draft" link.
League ID: 14
League Password: laura
You will need a Kafenatid.net Games username and password to register for your league draft. If you do not have a Kafenatid.net Games username and password, you can register for one at http://www.kafenatid.net/games/register.php
Kafenatid.net
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| 179 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 09:37
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FYI:
I can pick for anyone at any time for any reason. I will enter the keepers and then hold the draft for whatever start time we want without a clock.
Please email me your keepers to the email above and I will enter them when I get all keepers and YOUR USER ID.
In order to make things go smoother designate one or two designated pickers that can pick for you when your pick comes up. You can email a q to one or all of your pickers through "q management"
Also make sure you spell the names right and do NOT move past the red stop sign otherwise you risk having problems with people picking your people again.
There are some incongruities in IDP posistions versus what is actually on NFL rosters versus what yahoo has so be aware of this as you draft and check to make sure you fill the spots we need.
If the clock runs out while you are away the draft will move on if the person behind you is present. We have only 200 picks to make so I'm not worried about putting a fast clock on it to start, I'm gonna go w/ 8 hours. However, please do not overpick between the hours of 12pm and 8am CST to allow for sleep. We'll negotiate weekend times as the draft goes along.
If you are on the turn 1 and 10 you have only one clock to go by so you miss that spot you miss two picks.
If there are any trades you need to email me. I'll input the legge->culdeus trade right away.
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| 180 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 10:48
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Note: don't send culdeus your keepers we're going to do it draft style as previously discussed.
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| 181 | Promize
ID: 19742168
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 11:08
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I'm lost again, someone recap all these post and let me know when our draft is please...
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| 182 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 11:13
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Promize-
people are wanting to start a slow draft on kafenatid. All we need to know is if you are ok with that. If everyone is, then we'll all sign up and start drafting asap.
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| 183 | Promize
ID: 19742168
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 11:16
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Ok Battles, I saw your post above, saying nevermind, but then say your email saying what is your vote... So that is what confused me...
I'm good either way, I'm ready to go today if you all are! LOL
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| 184 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 11:17
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Thanks Promize.
I think doing the first 3 rounds as keepers will give people some extra time to get ready.
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| 185 | BoNkA
ID: 257141316
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 11:30
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Well everyone joined this league knowing when the live draft was. I really don't want to do a slow draft. I'm already going to be in one, and then I have college and track on top of that. I'd much rather just sit down and get it done with in 1-2 hours.
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| 186 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 11:41
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email from tree....
i LOVE a slow draft.
i've been using kafentid for another draft, and it takes a small amount of getting used to, but then absolutely kicks ass. it even designs a grid for you showing who picked whom, and it will STOP you if you try and draft an already drafted player...
i'm all for it!
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| 187 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 11:43
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I hear ya Bonka. Lets see what everyone else says and then we'll go from there.
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| 188 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 12:11
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i'm game for whatever, but a slow draft with a slow clock is easy to manage. on the clock emails you with when it's your turn to pick, so you don't have to keep checking. it's brilliant.
and whoever has the power will actually be able to input our keepers ahead of time, if we so choose....
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| 189 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 136491911
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 15:02
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Is there a way we could say that if the draft isn't finished by the original time then we'll hammer it out then? I don't want the draft to linger on past the 4th, that is only a few days before the first game.
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| 190 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 15:03
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The draft hasn't been set. I'm still working on pleasing everyone. Right now I'm looking into moving a fast draft to a weeknight.
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| 191 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 16:04
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another thing that on the clock does is average the time of picks, and guestimate when the draft will end. if we see it's taking a long time, the commish could step in and mandate a fast clock at one point.
that's a cool feature. the clock can be switched to 2 hours between picks, or 1 hour, or 48 hours, or whatever...
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| 192 | marshall
ID: 347152313
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 17:15
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would everyone be interested in doing a fast draft on a weekenight the week before the original draft day...how about the 31st or 1st? That way it is fast and no one's holliday is messed up...don't tell me that people have a ton of stuff going on during the week.
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| 193 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 18:09
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Anybody have objections to a live draft on Thursday Sept 2 at 645 pm cdt?
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| 194 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 19:17
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I'm out all tuesday eves for class, this coming sat, and 9/1 from 8pm on for my $$ league fast draft other than that I can push anything else off for this. I'd prefer to practice DVBD one more time at full speed to get used to it before 9/1 but I think I've got the hang of it by now.
Even the sat before at the same time was proposed and has been semi-agreed before.
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| 195 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 137342216
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 19:26
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I'm OK with the Sept 2 date or the slow draft. As long as it is slow or a fast draft in the evening I'm good. I'd prefer the 2nd over the 4th though.
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| 196 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 21:32
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I am fine with either. I do have some concerns about the time limit though. I am working in the field this week until Wednesday evening therefore I will be without computer access from 6:30 AM until about 7:30 PM.
It is not very reasonable to email someone my picks because I will have NO idea who is on left on the board.
But we can try it and see how it goes...worst case scenario someone can make the pick on my behalf.
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| 197 | Pappa
ID: 235482312
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 21:40
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PS. Has a decision been made yet? Are we emailing our keepers to Culdeus or doing it in the slow draft.
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| 198 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 22:14
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no decision yet. the thursday night does not work for tree.
it's 75-25 that we stay with the original time.
if we can't secure another day by tomorrow, i'm throwing down the guantlet and keeping the original THAT EVERYONE AGREED TO.
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| 199 | LiLPeeper
ID: 214583014
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 22:45
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im not sure wut all the sept 2nd talk is, but im definently moving into my dorm that day, so not really sure how available ill be
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| 200 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 23:00
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LAST TRY is monday sept 6th at 5 pm cdt (or any earlier time on yahoo)(possibly later if we do a live draft with otc)
I'm assuming most people have this day off and won't be out partying since they will have school/work the next morning.
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| 201 | marshall
ID: 347152313
Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 09:15
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Monday sounds spectacular battles...I think if monday doesn't work then just keep it on sat as scheduled.
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| 202 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 09:40
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i'm cool with either the holiday monday or the original saturday, but changing a live draft to a normal weekday would be a killer for me...
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| 203 | BoNkA
ID: 257141316
Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 12:14
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I think we just keep it the original. 6pm EST is not good for me during the week with track practice.
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| 204 | marshall
ID: 347152313
Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 13:06
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hey bonka it is a holiday...do you still have practice? I think monday is the best..everyone who works has it off...sat night there is always a lot more going on...but I can do either. Let's just figure it out soon so I can plan that weekend accordingly.
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| 205 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 13:11
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Bonka-
To allow for your track practice could we do it later on monday night. We can use the kafenatid website to do a quick draft at the time of your choice. It seems that everyone is in favor of that scenario.
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| 206 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 13:18
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how about 8 pm eastern on monday?
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| 207 | Promize
ID: 19742168
Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 13:27
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Already have a draft at that time :-(
By the way, 200 post ... I think we could start a new thread now couldn't we?
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| 208 | Battles
ID: 107372014
Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 13:29
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I'll start a new thread.
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