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0 Subject: RQFL #1 - Discussion #3

Posted by: youngroman
- [206491016] Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 11:53

the old one is getting too long

here is the link to the last thread
1Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 12:11
Toral took one of the two in my queue. At least I seem to be pegging the value of these guys right.
2Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 12:23
Assuming that I am, which is not at all safe....
3Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 12:33
Moulds had the same bye week as my #1 ;)
4Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 12:55
You mean we're supposed to check by weeks??? ;-)

Thank you, Mr. Schedule Maker.

Actually I think Koren Robinson could outpoint Jackson this year. Flip a coin between those two. If Robinson steps it up he has bigger upside, IMO.
5dwfffan
      ID: 34759234
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 16:34
Just got off work, sorry for the delay. I have picked.
6wiggs
      ID: 2739159
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 16:37
i picked too
7wiggs
      ID: 2739159
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 16:52
dwfffan your up again.
8Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 16:53
I propose we disallow wiggs' last pick because he didn't format it correctly with position and team, allowing ME to take Price! ;-)

Dammit, wiggs. Back to the drawing board.
9wiggs
      ID: 2739159
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 16:55
sorry species, maybe we can work out a trade :)
10dwfffan
      ID: 34759234
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 17:02
next
11Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 17:28
Too much value, I hope, in Chambers to let him go. I hope that the arrival of Booker is a benefit to Chambers in both some leadership and his perhaps not allowing teams to double Chambers exclusively. Could do worse as a 2nd WR, however Chambers is definitely a "Bust" candidate - but the upside is worth some risk.
12Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 17:44
Over to Tree.
14Art of Monk
      ID: 32531249
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 19:18
I have checked in several time throughout the day, but I don't think I will check back until late tonight.
I hate to sound like a broken record, but I am still interested in trading my pick here. Bandos this might be the time.
16dwfffan
      ID: 34759234
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 19:23
AoM, I will take one of your next picks there is anything we can work out.
17Art of Monk
      ID: 32531249
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 19:25
dwiffan, might not want to fall that far, but work something on the trade calculator and I'll check back later, most likely around midnight eastern.
18Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 20:32
Just checking in I'll get my next rational up in @ an hr.
19Tree
      ID: 176431421
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 20:49
hey guys. sorry. will pick in a minute...
20 Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 21:03
Monk

My 6.04, 7.11, 11.11

for 5.14 8.01, 11.14

Trade calculator has it as even as can be.

Please email me if this is acceptable.
23TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 40612721
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 22:06
YR is up in the draft. While not close to expiring...could we post when somebody's time WOULD be up?

Thanks,
THK
24youngroman
      ID: 206491016
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 22:25
took the best defense. WiddleAvi is up
25TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 40612721
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 22:27
Won't be the best if they let QBs torch them like Palmer did the other day! ;-)

THK
27WiddleAvi
      ID: 582361912
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 22:30
Pancho Villa is up. Hope this whole contract year thing lives up to itself.
28I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 22:32
RE 23:

It's not a bad idea THK; so that people will know to get ready to pick once the players clock has expired. However, for the majority of the owners it would become uneeded. It would probably be wise to post half way through their aloted time, when their clock runs out.
30art of monk
      ID: 59610240
      Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 23:58
IAC, dont think it is going to happen tonight. I'll check back in 15-20 min but then I am done for the night.

Bandos, I think we could do that deal if we did 12.1 instead of 11.14, I think I will wait until morning to see what happens before me to decide if I can get the player I want later.

Dwffin, if you are still interested propose a deal, I might be willing to fall that far, but it depends on what happens in the next couple of picks.
31Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 00:10
Picked .. Bandos is up.I'll be around for an hr or so if it gets back to me
32Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 00:14
Monk,
12.1 it is.

Im picking in a moment, but I want to hear from you first Monk.
33art of monk
      ID: 59610240
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 00:16
I think we are go bandos, but depends on IAC and THK.
36TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 40612721
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 00:19
here...

THK
37Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 00:22
I just realized something that I had missed (rrr) so lets revisit the idea of a trade when we get to 5.14 OK?
38art of monk
      ID: 59610240
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 00:25
great, it won't take long, I am up on aim. artofmonk
39Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 00:28
IAC - really - Suggs - I woulda never guessed it....:) (insert sarcasm)
40art of monk
      ID: 59610240
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 00:29
so what is the word bandos
41Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 00:31
I am bailing - sorry. You got the next two unless you work something out wiuth dwwwffffaaan
42art of monk
      ID: 59610240
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 00:33
I guess it was suggs that did it.
43Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 00:35
THK -

you must be as tired as me - 5.15 - hehehehe
44art of monk
      ID: 59610240
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 00:54
well bandos, I am sure I didn't take your player you wanted. Could really decide which QB I liked better so I just decided to take them both. Once again maybe good trade bait for someone that doesn't have a qb
45Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 00:57
Yup, Suggs and NE actually, had NE been available I would have taken them, then made the trade to get either suggs or wheatley, I didnt care which. before IAC took both.
46Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 01:04
see you tommorrow night
47I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 01:16
Yup, the night crew strikes again. See ya round tomorrow night hopefully all.
48Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 10:04
Species now up to pick in round 6 and for rationale in round 2. We're back to the point where everyone can make their pick and then post their back rationale.

Toral
49Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 11:16
What is the search command again? cntl something? I was shocked not to see Shockey picked - I nearly picked him in round 5. I know he's banged up, but wow did he slip.

dwfffan is up.
50Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 11:17
CNTL-F
51wiggs
      ID: 2739159
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 11:17
nice pick species.

Check out the wwe page.
52Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 15:14
are we on a clock here? it's been four hours...
53I_AM_CANADIAN @ Work
      ID: 364563113
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 15:17
dwfffan just picked. Wiggs is up.
54dwfffan
      ID: 27742244
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 15:18
wiggs your up.
55Art of Monk
      ID: 32531249
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 15:45
isn't the clock still 8 hours. are we going to extend the clock for the weekend?
56I_AM_CANADIAN @ Work
      ID: 364563113
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 16:01
As far as I know we are still on a 8 Hour clock.

I wouldn't mind seeing it moved down to about 5 hours, in order to keep a good flow to the draft; but even if we don't, the current pace is almost on target I believe.
57Art of Monk
      ID: 32531249
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 16:11
as long as the night crew keeps it up. I'll check back in tonight.
58WiddleAvi
      ID: 4356159
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 16:14
It's crazy. The night crew gets more done in 2 hours then gets done the entire day !!! I am sure that some people may have trouble checking in during the day. Is there anyway for those guys to leave a que with someone either in this league or out ??
59wiggs
      ID: 2739159
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 16:32
loki, your up
60Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 16:34
i will have to do the cel phone thing if we're still going on this weekend and we don't suspend the clock.

i will have NO computer access from 8 am on saturday until probably 4 pm on sunday...
61Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 17:52
Dumb question: This is cut-and-pasted from Discussion thread #2:

Roster:
QB 1
RB 2
WR 3
TE 1
K 1
Defense 1
DL 1 to 3
LB 0 to 2
DB 0 to 2

max. starting players: 12
max. bench players: 8
no injured reserve slots
max. roster size: 20

Am I to interpret this correctly that we need 3 IDP's? Does this mean that one of them MUST be a DL? Otherwise it can be of any position? May you choose NOT to have IDP's of any position?
62youngroman
      ID: 206491016
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 18:02
you are right species, RIFC is using the same roster-config: 1 DL + 2 IDP = 3 defense players
63Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 18:45
Can anyone take a queue while we wait on wiggs and dwfffan? I'm up 3rd in this round.
64 I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 19:07
You can send me your queue Species.
65Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 19:33
Sweet. Queue sent. Thanks IAC.

....will be busy watching poker on ESPN and clowning around with my boys. Didn't want to delay things nor take time away from the family the next 3 hours to check.
67dwfffan
      ID: 27742244
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 19:42
Species your up
69Tree
      ID: 176431421
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 19:58
guys. i'm gonna be away from my comp for the next couple of hours, but i will have my handheld, which has AIM, with me.

AIM me at treesham01 (that's zero-one), when i'm up, and i'll relay my pick...

(won't have access to anything until about 8:15 eastern)
70Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 20:03
You're up right now, Tree!
72TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 40612721
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 20:09
Well its 8:09 EST so Tree should be picking shortly.

THK
74TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 40612721
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 20:11
Just IMd him...he will pick shortly.

THK
77youngroman
      ID: 206491016
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 20:18
WiddleAvi is up.
78TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 40612721
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 20:19
WiddleAvi is up.

;-)

THK
79Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 20:21
I'm out for around an hour...hopefully will be my pick when I get back
80Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 20:29
Ah, Species, ya tipped everyone off. "We're drafting IDPs!?" ;)

Toral
82Pancho Villa
      Sustainer
      ID: 533817
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 20:43
I'm here. My kid's are wishing me happy birthday. Give me a couple minutes.
83Species
      ID: 26471422
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 20:49
Toral - yeah, I know but I wanted to make sure. Plus, it wasn't to my detriment anyway! ;-)
86 loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 23:00
depending on where the draft is when i leave tomorrow, i may need to leave a queue. if you can take it, please give me your e-mail address.
THANKS-loki
88TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 40612721
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 23:27
Bandos...let's get the night crew going because I don't have long.

THK
89art of monk
      ID: 59610240
      Tue, Aug 24, 2004, 23:45
thk can you IM so i can leave you a que
90art of monk
      ID: 59610240
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 00:19
sorry guys I am off to bed, IAC are you on aim, I guess I could IM you.
91I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 00:20
Sure I'll take it... My AIM...IAMCANADIAN20040
92TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 40612721
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 00:58
Left a queue with Perm Dude...only e-mail I could find of somebody not at the bottom of the order.

Please e-mail him if I come up and he is not around. Tomorrow is my first day or school/job and won't be home to about 6:30 CST and really don't want to be skipped.

THK
93Perm Dude
      ID: 2343587
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 01:00
No problem--got yer back, THK.
94I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 02:02
Well... I was holding Art of Monk's queue but I'm off to bed. He said that if Bandos didn't show tonight, that he would make the pick himself in the morning.

I'm kinda upset that the night crew couldn't get to the plate tonight. Normally we keep the draft on schedule; if we start taking as much time as everyone else, we will fall very far behind.
95Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 07:25
Sorry, I fell asleep(again) with my 2yr old and didn't wake up! I have now picked - maybe the night crew can become the early morning crew!
97Art of Monk
      ID: 32531249
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 09:54
IAC, Let me make my picks
98Art of Monk
      ID: 32531249
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 09:56
Bandos, You up for a trade here, I guess we are waiting on Perm Dude to make THK pick.
99Perm Dude
      ID: 2343587
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 09:57
Here, give me 5.
100Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 10:10
Sorry Monk, no. the guys I was targeting has already been picked (1 by me!)

101Art of Monk
      ID: 32531249
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 10:12
I'll make my picks shortly
102Perm Dude
      ID: 2343587
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 10:30
OK, THK's q is exhausted. Hopefully he'll be back on the computer before it comes around to him.
103loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 10:41
I_A_C-queue sent. thanks-loki
106Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 12:08
Thanks IAC. Maybe it can get back to us for tonight? hopeful....
107I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 12:24
It'll take a lot of work to get back to us. I am holding queue for Loki, so I'll try to be on top of the draft through the middle.

It would really help, if anyone else is going to be away, if they would do the same...
108Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 13:51
Yeah! I sent my queue to IAC like a real man. Everyone else step up too or you are a punk.

;-)
109Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 14:09
Picked Pancho Villa is up...meant to check back sooner but got held up in a meeting :-(
110WiddleAvi
      ID: 4356159
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 14:28
I'm up to pick. Will take me probably 45 minutes till I pick though.
112Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 15:46
will pick in a few...lemme catch up...
114Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 16:17
Not my day typing-wise. 1st got the position wrong, then misspelled the name. I'll de;ete the 1st two tries.
116Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 16:44
Just got back.......will pick within 10 mins
117THK @ work
      ID: 44712516
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 17:05
????? PD, I am very confused? What queue did you get?!?!!? Because Lloyd was #3 on my queue and the #2 player is still available. Oh well...just confused and worried about my team now but oh well.

THK
118dwfffan
      ID: 8714254
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 17:21
wiggs your up..
119THK @ work
      ID: 97402516
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 17:40
Still confused???? Tree I sent you the same queue, was Lloyd #2 there?

THK
120THK @ work
      ID: 97402516
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 17:42
NEVERMIND...STUPID by me I didn't even realize loki had picked the Baltimore D or I wouldn't have included them on the queue.

Sorry...my mistake and now I have 4 WRs!

THK
121Perm Dude
      ID: 2343587
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 20:28
That's exactly right--Baltimore was gone. Frankly, I was worried that your last pick would be gone too.

Looks like you'll be working the trading phones!
122wiggs
      ID: 2739159
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 20:28
i went
124wiggs
      ID: 2739159
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 20:32
next
125Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 20:34
You're up again, wiggs. Brooking was taken at 7.06

Toral
126wiggs
      ID: 2739159
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 20:38
see its tough when people misspell names because then the ctrl F doesnt work so well. Fortunately for tree he didnt make that pick so I cant punish him. Otherwise I would think there was a brooking and a brookings
127Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 20:41
There's no s at tne end of his name. The earlier pick was right.

Anyway, CTRL-F on "Brooking" finds either version.
128wiggs
      ID: 2739159
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 20:44
thats weird, I have a fantasy magazine here showing with the s. I guess it is wrong and so was I. I will shut up about that now. Sorry.
129dwfffan
      ID: 8714254
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 21:14
next
131TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 40612721
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 21:43
Sorry about that PD. I had been rushing to get some sleep before the first day back. I am very comfortable with my WR position now for a league like this. I was excited to think Baltimore was still available, lol...but oh well!

Time to address some new problems.

THK
132loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 21:49
I_A_C-thanks for making my picks. i am back now.-loki
133Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 22:11
Yawn. Anybody going to be around for a few hours and can take a queue? Or how do I do one of those invisible queue thingies?

Toral
134Species
      ID: 26471422
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 22:13
You're up dude. Do it your damn self! ;-)
135Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 22:14
Never mind. Tree's up.
136WiddleAvi
      ID: 582361912
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 22:15
test invisible
Invisible
137WiddleAvi
      ID: 582361912
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 22:16
For future reference to do invisible to this
[font color="#EEEEEE"]your text here[/font] and replace [ & ] with < & >
138Tree
      ID: 176431421
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 22:17
will pick in a few...
139Species
      ID: 26471422
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 22:19
Testing

Invisible text sucks
So does your mom

140youngroman
      ID: 206491016
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 22:38
WiddleAvi is up
143TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 40612721
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 23:29
Tree has a 7 man queue for my next 2 picks..

THK
144Tree
      ID: 176431421
      Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 23:44
guys. i'm heading to bed. which means THK's queue goes with me....
145Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 00:09
Pick made...
146art of monk
      ID: 59610240
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 00:19
I guess we will be the morning group again.
147I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 01:19
Well I can't wait any longer. I'll see you guys around in the morning.
148Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 06:42
Oh me of little faith - I thought we had no chance of making back to me. I'll pick soon.
150Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 07:02
When do you sleep dude? lol
151I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 07:08
Very rarely lately. Thanks for the concern. LOL
152Tree
      ID: 176431421
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 07:11
got it...his next pick will probably have to wait until sometime between 9 and 9:30 eastern, as i'm off to work in a couple
153 Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 08:42
YR -

At all intertested in trading TB for NE and moving up somewhere?

email me
154Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 09:47
loki up in rationales for 3.01 Hines Ward -- he did 2.14 but not 3.01
155I_AM_CANADIAN @ Work
      ID: 364563113
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 09:57
ArtofMonk is up for his two picks.
156Art of Monk
      ID: 32531249
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 10:33
I should pick shortly, I am wondering if anyone has a spreadsheet of all the picks and positions. My little paper is full and I have put it into excel yet.
157Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 10:34
this should be close...
Round Loki Wiggs dwfffan Species Toral Tree Y. Roman Round
1 L. Tomlinson P. Holmes A. Green C. Portis D. McAllister S. Alexander J. Lewis 1
2 K. Jones M. Bennett S. Davis B. Westbrook T. Barber M. Harrison D. McNabb 2
3 H. Ward C. Johnson D. Mason M. Hasselbeck S. Smith D. Staley S. Moss 3
4 T. Green Ji. Smith T. Heap E. Moulds Ko. Robinson S. Mcnair W. Dunn 4
5 Baltimore P. Price J. Garcia C. Chambers B. Favre I. Bruce New England 5
6 D. Hall Ju. Jones J. McCareins J. Shockey R. Wayne K. Winslow Rod Smith 6
7 D. Givens R. William (det) J. Sharper D. Edwards Miami K. Brooking Z. Thomas 7
8 A. Davis D. Brooks M. Robinson Philadelphia S. Rice M. Booker J. Plummer 8
9 M. Muhammed D. Thornton T. Bell J. Abraham L. Fletcher N. Barnett St. Louis 9
10               10
11               11
12               12
13               13
14               14
15               15
16               16
17               17
18               18
19               19
20               20
Round Loki Wiggs dwfffan Species Toral Tree Y. Roman Round
                 
                 
Round Widdle Avi P. Villa Slowhand Bandos IAMCanadian THK ArtofMonk Round
1 E. James F. Taylor P. Manning R. Moss K. Barlow T. Henry M. Faulk 1
2 T. Owens D. Culpepper R. Johnson M. Vick T. Holt C. Dillon Do. Davis 2
3 C. Martin Thomas Jones R. Lewis J. Horn C. Brown Da. Jackson Q. Griffen 3
4 C. Garner C. Rogers E. George T. Gonzalez L. Coles A. Brooks An. Johnson 4
5 P. Burress A. Toomer J. Walker T. Wheatley L. Suggs D. Stallworth T. Brady 5
6 L. Fitzgerald Carolina TJ Duckett Tampa C. Pennington J. Porter M. Bulger 6
7 M. Strahan K. Bulluck A. Lelie Key. Johnson Dallas D. Branch R. Gardner 7
8 Br. Johnson W. McGahee Boo Williams J. Taylor A. Crumpler B. Lloyd M. Rucker 8
9 B. Urlacher Kev. Johnson Tennessee Em. Smith Will. Green S. Taylor   9
10               10
11               11
12               12
13               13
14               14
15               15
16               16
17               17
18               18
19               19
20               20
Round WiddleAvi P. Villa Slowhand Bandos IAMCanadian THK ArtofMonk Round
158Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 10:42
I'll be gone for 2 or 3 hrs.Can I email some one a queue?
159 I_AM_CANADIAN @ Work
      ID: 364563113
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 10:45
Shoot it over to me. I'll take care of it.
160Art of Monk
      ID: 32531249
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 10:51
TREE, Thanks.
Has anyone filled out a spreadsheet by team and then by position.

I don't think it will get back to me tonight, so i will be looking for someone to take a que from me late tonight, since I will be without computer access on friday.
161Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 10:58
here ya go - the bench players are not listed by position...
Pos Loki Wiggs dwfffan Species Toral Tree Y. Roman Pos
QB T. Green   J. Garcia M. Hasselbeck B. Favre S. McNair D. McNabb QB
RB L. Tomlinson P. Holmes A. Green C. Portis D. McAllister S. Alexander J. Lewis RB
RB K. Jones M. Bennett S. Davis B. Westbrook T. Barber D. Staley W. Dunn RB
WR H. Ward C. Johnson D. Mason E. Moulds S. Smith M. Harrison S. Moss WR
WR D. Hall P. Price J. McCareins C. Chambers K. Robinson I. Bruce R. Smith WR
WR D. Givens J. Smith M. Robinson   R. Wayne M. Booker   WR
TE     T. Heap J. Shockey   K. Winslow   TE
K               K
Def Baltimore     Philadelphia Miami   N. England Def
D And. Davis D. Brooks J. Sharper D. Edwards L. Fletcher K. Brooking Z. Thomas D
D   D. Thornton       N. Barnett   D
DL       J. Abraham S. Rice     DL
Bench M. Muhammed Ju. Jones T. Bell       J. Plummer Bench
Bench   Roy Williams (det)         St. Louis Bench
Bench               Bench
Bench               Bench
Bench               Bench
Bench               Bench
Bench               Bench
Bench               Bench
Pos Loki Wiggs dwfffan Species Toral Tree Y. Roman Pos
                 
                 
Pos Widdle Avi P. Villa Slowhand Bandos IAMCanadian THK ArtofMonk Pos
QB Br. Johnson D. Culpepper P. Manning M. Vick C. Pennington A. Brooks T. Brady QB
RB E. James F. Taylor R. Johnson T. Wheatley K. Barlow T. Henry M. Faulk RB
RB C. Martin Th. Jones E. George Em. Smith L. Suggs C. Dillon Do. Davis RB
WR T. Owens C. Rogers Da. Jackson R. Moss T. Holt D. Stallworth An. Johnson WR
WR P. Burress A. Toomer J. Walker Key. Johnson J. Horn J. Porter R. Gardner WR
WR L. Fitzgerald Kev. Johnson A. Lelie   L. Coles D. Branch   WR
TE     Boo Williams T. Gonzalez A. Crumpler     TE
K               K
Def   Carolina Tennessee Tampa Dallas     Def
D Urlacher K. Bulluck   R. Lewis   S. Taylor   D
D               D
DL M. Strahan     J. Taylor     M. Rucker DL
Bench C. Garner W. McGahee TJ Duckett   Will. Green C. Brown Q. Griffin Bench
Bench           B. Lloyd M. Bulger Bench
Bench               Bench
Bench               Bench
Bench               Bench
Bench               Bench
Bench               Bench
Bench               Bench
Pos WiddleAvi P. Villa Slowhand Bandos IAMCanadian THK ArtofMonk Pos
162Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 11:00
Email sent..Thanks
163I_AM_CANADIAN @ Work
      ID: 364563113
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 11:19
Bandos is Up.
164I_AM_CANADIAN @ Work
      ID: 364563113
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 11:59
YoungRoman... just a reminder to make the next Draft thread (rounds 11+)
165I_AM_CANADIAN @ Work
      ID: 364563113
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 12:01
Also... just an FYI - I never got Slowhand's Queue.
166I_AM_CANADIAN @ Work
      ID: 364563113
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 12:14
Update to last post. It just came through. Slow MSN that he uses.
167Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 12:32
will pick shortly.
168Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 12:49
Done - will probably be up tonight late as I have a meeting but will not be here from 5-10 or so. I will check in before 5 to see if I need to leave a Q. If you guys all pony up like last night, I will be up for the night crew!
169I_AM_CANADIAN @ Work
      ID: 364563113
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 13:01
PanchoVilla is Up.
170Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 13:05
lol.......I was scanning the spread above looking at what QB's had been taken -- and I was wondering who this QB sleeper I hadn't heard of was: "P. Villa"
171Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 13:27
And not only is P. Villa a good QB sleeper, but he's asleep at the drafting wheel!

I'm excited about my next 2 picks! I have 3 guys I want.....so nobody touch them.
172loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 14:41
I_A_C-if i need to leave a queue for tonight and/or tomorrow night, would you be able to take it?-loki
173 I_AM_CANADIAN @ Work
      ID: 364563113
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 15:18
Yup send it in Loki.
174loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 15:46
thanks. if i have not picked before about 8pm, it will be sent. tomorrow i'll be away from about 3pm-11pm(off to shea to see the dodgers), so i will send it only if necessary.
175wiggs
      ID: 87552614
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 16:00
sorry about the bold in my rationale post.
176WiddleAvi
      ID: 5470911
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 16:19
Hey guys...we are really falling behind on the rationals. If we can catch up to the order the draft is (Pancho Villa on the snake back) then maybe we can make a rule that before you make your pick you have to post your rational for whatever round that is holding.
177Art of Monk
      ID: 32531249
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 17:00
who is planning on being around tonight? I would like to leave a que with someone, but I would rather do it late tonight and use IM instead of email.
178loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 17:01
re:#176-using place holders as is done in rifl would obviate or at worst minimize this problem.
179wiggs
      ID: 2739159
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 17:28
art i will be around most of the night, although I will probably go to bed around 11.
180youngroman
      ID: 206491016
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 17:50
just created the 2nd draft thread that should be used for rounds 11-20.

I hope this 2nd thread will be needed today.
181Pancho Villa
      Sustainer
      ID: 533817
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 18:44
I'll pick in a minute. Spent the last 2 hours in a horrific traffic jam on I-15.
182Art of Monk
      ID: 32531249
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 18:51
wiggs, I'll try get on before then if not who can I email that will be around in the morning when I pick again, but we might get to night crew again.
183 WiddleAvi
      ID: 582361912
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 19:16
Art of Monk - I will be up till around 12 or so EST. AIM screen name is widdleavi. If I am not on just email me
184WiddleAvi
      ID: 582361912
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 19:19
Pancho Villa- You are up in the rationals thread
185Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 19:26
IAC - I'm nearly ready to leave work and might be AFK for a few hours. I'm going to take the liberty of sending you a queue - hope you don't mind.
186Tree
      ID: 87562618
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 19:58
youngroman - using 2 threads for one draft could be bad.

it increases the chance of someone double picking, since it renders control-F useless.

possibly reconsider?
187Tree
      ID: 87562618
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 19:59
hey. i'm up!

will pick in a few!
189Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 20:28
Open it up.
190loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 20:33
I_A_C-have to leave now. queue sent. thanks.-loki
191dwfffan
      ID: 32721267
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 20:36
wiggs, it's on you.
192dwfffan
      ID: 32721267
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 20:54
can I send a short queue to someone for my next pick? (11.03)
193 Tree
      ID: 87562618
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 21:08
i'm only here for another 1.5 hours or so, but if no one else is around, send it...
194dwfffan
      ID: 32721267
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 21:17
Tree, thanks , it's in the mail.
196wiggs
      ID: 2739159
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 22:31
done
198I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 22:33
OH, and by the way... I didn't do it on purpose...

but I forgot to post Loki's 11th round pick in the other thread... sorry Youngroman.
199Species
      ID: 26471422
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 22:35
.........and I am here. If I log off, I'll queue to IAC
200Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 23:31
Well, it didnt get back so looks like a morning crew again for our end of the draft. Sucks seeing so many of the guys I wanted get picked this round....
201Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 23:34
I'm sending a 1-person queue to IAC in case it doesn't get to me tonight. If dwffan/Tree doesn't pick within 2 hours, hopefully the 1-man queue will stick - or else you're waiting until 8:00 am PT tomorrow.
202Art of Monk
      ID: 32531249
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 00:08
I am going to email tree a que for me. I will be without access for most of day until tomorrow night.
203I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 01:20
Well... sorry species... but I'm going to bed.
204Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 01:32
Please use the queue for tomorrow, IAC since I'm on West Coast.
205youngroman
      ID: 206491016
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 01:40
just deleted the 2nd thread because of the reason mentioned in post 186.
206I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 07:53
Toral is Up.
207Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 08:13
Tree is up.
208Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 09:24
i just got in the office. will pick in a few as soon as i catch up...
209Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 09:34
Aw heck. Tree's choice was my other idea but I hoped he might last.

Do-over, Tree? ;)

Toral
210Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 10:19
I'll check back in about an hour;if it's not my pick then I'll need someone to take a queue.

Also I'm technically up in trhe rationals but that was my "skipped " pick.Should I post it now or in the order in which it was made (three picks later)?
211WiddleAvi
      ID: 96161410
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 10:36
Post it now slowhand
212WiddleAvi
      ID: 96161410
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 10:36
Post it now slowhand
213Bandos
      ID: 975278
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 11:02
I posted 3.11.
214 I_AM_CANADIAN @ Work
      ID: 364563113
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 11:35
THK is up in the Rationals.

YR is up in the Draft.

+ If you want, you can send me your queue Slowhand.
215youngroman
      ID: 206491016
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 12:58
sorry for the delay, got interrupted this morning, just picked
216Slowhand @ work
      ID: 40343218
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 13:36
Queues sent to IAC for my next 2 picks.
217I_AM_CANADIAN @ Work
      ID: 364563113
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 18:03
Queue is done for Slowhand... Bandos your up.

I'll be leaving work in a couple minutes. Will be home in around 1 hour.
218Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 18:26
I picked. IAC will pick when he gets home im sure.

THK, Monk ready to get this back to Pancho Villa in the next hour?
219I_AM_CANADIAN @ Work
      ID: 364563113
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 18:26
OK. I'm leaving for real now.
220I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 19:28
Tree... you still got Monk's Queue? He's UP. I'm holding THK's... so we can keep this moving.
221TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 40612721
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 19:30
Sorry guys, it's my b-day and I am going out. Put placeholders in the rationales thread and IAC has my queue for the next pick.

Thanks,
THK
222I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 19:40
Well... It is friday evening... I'm going to go over to my friends place with THK's Queue... and check back in a bit.
223Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 19:41
I'm out for the evening...IAC has my queue for my 12.05 pick..
224Tree
      ID: 87562618
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 20:07
i'm commutting home between 6 and 8 eastern. just got in.

lemme catch up, and post Monk's picks...

and then i am gone all weekend...
225Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 20:09
FYI: I'll be away most of Saturday. I'll leave a queue before I go that should last 1 or 2 rounds, depending on where we are tomorrow morning when I leave it.

Anyone around Saturday afternoon and evening for queues?
226Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 20:10
Cool, Tree.

I think it will get back to you soon tonight as people seem to be around or have sent Q's, could you do the same? Either invisi or otherwise?
227 Pancho Villa
      Sustainer
      ID: 533817
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 20:13
I'll be gone during the day tomorrow, but home in the late afternoon(about 4MST) then home all evening. I can do picks for folks after that.
228Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 20:15
PV - around tonight? cuz its set up to get back to you in a hurry after Monks picks - THK sent a Q, IAC and I are here and Slowhand sent a Q.
229I_AM_CANADIAN-AWAY
      ID: 437562217
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 21:12
Bandos... you know your up right?
230I_AM_CANADIAN-AWAY
      ID: 437562217
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 21:31
Can anyone take over Slowhand's Queue? I got to go out for a couple of hours.
231 WiddleAvi
      ID: 582361912
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 21:44
IAC - You can send it to me if you want. I will check my email later unless I fall asleep.
232Pancho Villa
      Sustainer
      ID: 533817
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 21:56
Back for the night.
233Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 22:12
ok - picking shortly, sry, had a meeting.

Go Sox!
234Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 22:19
Have at. See everyone tommorow. Looks like it might move.
235 Tree
      ID: 87562618
      Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 22:41
if someone needs my celly, email me. i wont have computer access from about 7 am eastern saturday until 5 pm sunday...
236art of monk
      ID: 59610240
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 01:30
Tree, thanks for making the picks. I had family come in from out of town for the weekend so I am not sure when I will be around. Tree if you could forward my que to wild, if not I will do another possibly tommorow afternoon or evening, since I don't think it will get back to me super quick on the weekend.
237Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 08:03
youngroman -- I understand that pickups will be by waiver request during the season, not first come first served. But what happens between the time out league is entered and the first game. Is it first come first served, or is there a waiver process?

Thanx.

Toral
238youngroman
      ID: 206491016
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 09:08
Toral - I found nothing in the manual/FAQ of Rotoworld. I sent them a question how this will be handled. I'll post their response when I get it.
239loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 09:55
yr-when the procedure for pickups and waivers is finalized, would you please post it so that it will be clear to all players. myself with my lack of experience would appreciate it. thanks.-l
240Bandos
      ID: 13762111
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 10:26
Is the clock suspended on this weekend?

241youngroman
      ID: 206491016
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 10:49
until now the clock is officially not suspended, but I think we should not watch too close at it this weekend since we have made good progress last week and with this pace we should finalize the draft by friday.

loki - summarized from Rotoworld:

How will Lineup Changes be handled
Each owner can make their own lineup changes.
Each player locks 5 minutes before the scheduled start time of his game.

How will Pickups be handled
Each owner can make their own pickups
How are pickups made: Waiver Wire - Lowest in the Standings.
Run waiver wire every Wednesday Night (The waiver wire runs between 11:30 pm and 5 am et).

Players dropped the day the waiver wire runs will not be awarded that run - they will be awarded the following run. For example, if a league chooses to have their waiver wire run on Tuesday nights, all players dropped from teams in the league that day will not be awarded that night, they will be awarded the following Tuesday night. This rule is in effect for all leagues using the waiver wire and cannot be adjusted. It is in place to make the process fairer by giving each team time to see who was waived.

All players who are not claimed on waivers become free agents after the waiver wire runs. As free agents they are available on a first come first served basis. In other words, teams are free to pick them up immediately. The players will remain free agents until the first game of the week starts.

Players who are dropped as part of the waiver wire process will not be free agents. And, players dropped between the time the waiver wire runs and the start of the first game of the season are not free agents. All of those players will be on waivers.

How will Trades be handled
Each owner can make their own trades
How are trades made: Proposal System
Number of votes required to veto the trade: 7
Number of days that the trade is held open for voting: 2
The weekly deadline for trades to be executed: The start of the first game.

The season deadline for trades: Jan 2, 2005

two questions remain:
1) what happens on the timeframe between the end of the draft and the first week. Are the undrafted players landing on waivers (and for how long) or are they free agents - I am waiting for response from Rotoworld on this
2) should there be a trade deadline earlier in the year (after week 12 or 13 = our playoff start)
242Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 12:59
Leaving in a few hours till late late tonite. Anyone want a queue? Or arer kinds giving up on the weekend?

Toral
244loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 13:15
yr-thanks for the info in post #241. i am certain that some managers are assuming that the clock is suspended on the weekends, and the way the draft is progressing it might as well be.
would you consider officially suspending it?
also, when will you be entering the players on the rotoworld site? THANKS-l
245youngroman
      ID: 206491016
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 13:24
loki - earlier today I entered all drafted players, but it seems that they only will be seen on rosters when I declare the season to begin, which will happen after the draft.

on request I'll officially suspend the clock until Monday morning

if you want to go forward do so, if not enjoy the weekend.
Species' time officially runs out on Monday 3pm.
246loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 14:33
wiggs-if you can make your pick, i'll be able to make my 2 before i leave.-loki
247I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 227221220
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 15:06
RE:246 I'll take your queue if you want Loki. I won't be checking in as often as during the week, since we are running w/o a clock, but I'll still looking a few times per day for sure.
248loki
      Dude
      ID: 4211201420
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 15:35
I_A_C-i'm not leaving for the weekend, just will not be able to check in as often as usual. thanks for the offer however. pavarotti concert tonight--i'll check in before and after.-l
249Tree in Beantown
      ID: 237482816
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 17:52
hey guys - they do have a 24 hour business center here, so i'll check in periodically. not between 6 pm and midnight probably, but i will check in after that.
250wiggs
      ID: 2739159
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 18:28
i picked, loki is up.
251youngroman
      ID: 206491016
      Sat, Aug 28, 2004, 18:54
since this thread is getting long again, here is a new one
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