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0 Subject: Yahoo Ultimate Football Challenge II Post-Draft

Posted by: culdeus
- Leader [43105818] Thu, Sep 02, 2004, 19:30



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Battles A-

Keeper Grade: A

Ahman and Peyton represent two first rounders in this QB heavy system. Andra was a top 10 LB last year.

Skill Grade: B+

RBs are a bit shaky to be able to run with 3 RBs every week, very little depth unless there are some high profile injuries across the league. Potentially the best scoring WR grouping and he should end up trading off going 4WR 3RB several times this year. I'm starting to get worried about Green, the injuries are mounting there and KC has yet to bring in another WR in trade like I thought they would. But if everything holds to form he'll have the most points from that spot of anyone

IDPs A-

Quality IDPS, Ayodele was a reach and Sean Taylor was early but should give some value. Obviously needs another DB at some point

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Culdeus A-

Keepers A+: Moss and LT are first round picks and Sharper is the #2 IDP overall.

Skill B

QB posistion will be a struggle this year as it was last year I was floored to get Gannon in the 20th might be the SOD. I can go 4WR to start while waiting on Bennett to get healthy so that helps but I will need to dip into the wire soon to get another WR.

IDP A+

I'll start 4 of the top 10 IDPs overall 2 top 15 DBs despite not taking one to the 21st round. I have bye week issues but I will not be able to drop anyone because they will be picked up immediately, if that's the worst thing I can come up with then so be it. Alge and Vinateri represented value as I was able to put off DB for another few rounds and get a jump on the misc. guys.
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Marshall C

Keepers B

All second round guys and a decent IDP.

Skill C-

Very poor WR corps in a 1/rec league. Not up to the standards of last year. Two QBs with big ? marks over their heads with regards to team strength this year and Kevin Jones was a flat out reach for a future keeper. Looking towards next year?!?

IDP D

Early on Urlacher and Parrish by about 8 rounds, no top 10 IDPs to speak of. Should be a black hole to start the season and need lots of waiver work.
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Promize D

Keepers D

While he had little to go with keeping a DB is an automatic C in my grade book so you start from there. Faulk and McNabb are 3rd and 4th rounders at best.

Skill D-

I know it's a deep keeper but how long are you willing to eat 0es from your starters to keep Eli on your bench? Bye week issues and injuries could melt your young drafting strategy to death. Did not get a flex RB and will have to run out Dante Hall every week.

IDP F

Deangelo hall was a solid pick, maybe the only high value DB there except for arch but the lack of LBs is going to mean a very quick trip to the wire and a long one.
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Lil B+

Keepers A-

For an expansion draft he made out like a bandit getting a top IDP and a stud RB and a good RB2. I'd be very pleased

Skill A

WOW nice job with the WR early, he understands the system very well for a first timer. The 1,2,3 punch at the top of his WR q will hit hard, no real bonafide flex starter graded him down a bit but his QB corps is decent enough to make up for it and maybe Boldin comes back strong.

IDP C

Started out ok but faded taking lots of spare LBs and DBs. I doubt but maybe 3 of these guys end up the season with you
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Legge A+ (Preseason pick to win championship)

Keepers A

A first and second round back and a top 10 IDP rounds out his team.

Skill A+

Was able to go bang bang with two stud QBs drafting from a hole after the trade and still came out great. Will be able to roll a quality flex RB out there with three stud WR and a great backup in Stallworth. An absolute powerhouse team there. Good grief.

IDP A

Understood the system and got the second most top 10 IDPs behind myself. Should roll over everyone here as well, probably should not have taken DBs as early, but the ones he got are solid.
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HamidTom B+

Keepers A-

Two first rounders and a solid IDP again here from a returning cellar dweller, again how did you lose so many games with Holmes last year?

Skill B+

Has a decent but questionable flex back and got a good value in Deion Branch to round out a mediocre WR corps. Steve Smith was a steal in the 6th. QB wise he is deep.

IDP B+

Decent but not spectacular guys no top 10s drafted except for Edwards
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Bonka B

Keepers D+

What did I say about keeping DBs? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Skill A

Great all around starting team with a good flex RB in Tiki but very very thin outside of QB for depth. Going to have to make some good matchup picks for the WR3 spot to payoff for anything. And how do you not like a guy named Boo?

IDP B-

Picked up some good value early but both Brown and Kearse are wire material if I ever saw any.
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Tree C

Keepers D

Again you newbies and your DBs stop it or I'll have to really get mad.

Skill D

I hate just taking mad reaches for QBs. I'm waiting for about week 5 when he has no choice but to drop Roethlisburger to get a real backup QB. Potentailly the best drafted WR corps in the game but no proven flex back (if he needs one).

IDP B-

Started strong finished weak getting little value outside of Barnett Peterson and Simmons. Simmons represents the best value because of the loss of Chris Brown early, I wish I would have made that pick myself looking back on it. past Taylor those guys need to find their way to the wire and fast.
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Brad B

Keepers F

TO was the wrong guy to keep and the only decision outside of IDPs that I questioned. Should have held a QB there for sure as TO might have been there 20 picks from his first one. Maybe.

Skill B

Carr and Harrington are neither bonafide studs and their teams are hit and miss and so will that slot be all year. Martin is a SOLID flex back and for all the fuss the WR corps is solid through the 3WR as well.

IDP A-

Like the Archuleta pick, the most consistent IDP scorer out there a must have. Top to bottom I think he stands to be able to hold onto this group going into week 1 with no changes. 2 top 10 guys amongst him and almost all are top 30. Heap was a great TE pick where he fell too in this system.

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1Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Thu, Sep 02, 2004, 19:36
Well nothing like stroking your own ego and given yourself all A's in a ranking system... LOL

I'm not to worried about my defense, since several of them are ranked quite well from last years stats..
2BoNkA@sparecomp
      ID: 207562722
      Thu, Sep 02, 2004, 19:38
Did you factor in bye weeks? That explains some of my IDP picks :P
3 culdeus
      Leader
      ID: 43105818
      Thu, Sep 02, 2004, 20:08
I didn't factor in bye weeks, pretty much graded on quality of 6th RB/WR 2QBs and the distribution of IDP rankings and looked out for high value or bad picks.

I made a spread sheet for another league using the .ddf file to project total points. I quit tracking the league in Dominator after the 15th rond and don't feel like entering it all now. if you have a good ddf file please email.

One thing the new people will learn is the top DB will run in behind maybe up to or higher than the 45th LB. Anybody drafting DBs early and often has a bad defense, period. I often found there was little value in even picking up another DB to cover a bye if it meant exposing a quality player.
4Tree
      ID: 87562618
      Thu, Sep 02, 2004, 20:12
keepers a D? are you kidding me bro?

1. two young QBs, both of whom will be starters by week six.

2. Edge, Jamal as my starting RB, and Jones and Bell, two of the top 5 rookie RBs drafted.

3. look at those WR!!!

4. look at those LB. Barnett, Henderson, and DBs, Williams and Coleman.

damn, you're going down this year if you think i have a medicore team...;o)

5Hamid Toliyat
      ID: 137342216
      Thu, Sep 02, 2004, 20:54
Where did you get the IDP rankings? Based on last year's stats I have 4 out of the top 10. Harrison as a DB is ranked #10.
6Hamid Toliyat
      ID: 137342216
      Thu, Sep 02, 2004, 20:58
I don't know how I lost games last year. I think Battles scored about 10 more points than I did the whole season. I would lose those 200-190 games.
7Hamid Toliyat
      ID: 137342216
      Thu, Sep 02, 2004, 21:02
Clay-

You are in big time trouble at RB. Tomlinson is all-world, but Bennett is an injury waiting to happen, T. Jones is a gamble, Dunn will lose all his TD's to Duckett, and Moe is a bench guy after Onterrio comes back. Rattay went way too early. WR's are solid. Lloyd will be a steal.

B- on your skill players.
8culdeus
      Leader
      ID: 43105818
      Thu, Sep 02, 2004, 21:42
You keep a DB you get a C to start. I used the projections from DD not the opinions of people making cheatsheets. The projections are based on opinions but they take into account our scoring system which gives DBs less value.


I gave myself a B for skill, B- maybe but I'm counting on Bennet coming back.

9LiLPeeper
      ID: 214583014
      Fri, Sep 03, 2004, 01:27
damn the aggies got WHOOPED 2nite
10leggestand
      Sustainer
      ID: 451036518
      Fri, Sep 03, 2004, 08:47
I don't know what you are all complaining about, I think his rankings are right on.

That's a massive analysis Culdeus, and it's great reading this kind of stuff. At first, I wasn't sure that trading my 1st round pick for Barlow was a great idea, but I only dropped 6 spots, and he is a much better keeper than Harrison in my eyes. Then it opened up the ability to trade Harrison and move up 4 spots later in the draft. So, overall, I improved my team by getting Barlow, and only had to drop a total of 2 draft spots to get him.

I was kind of confused by some of the early picks in the draft, including some of the backup QB's taken. If we were keeping 8 or so players on offense next year, I would be all for it, but we are only keeping 5, and that makes a big difference. My early projections have me dropping at least McNair next year, if not Pennington as well, just because the 5 spots give no room to keep two QB's. In my opinion, people like Roethlisberger or Eli should not have been drafted, unless you are 100% sure they will start and produce later this season...which I don't think they will, but others probably do.

Overall, I liked my draft. I picked Shockey in the 17th round, and who knows about his injury(s), but at that point in the draft I was willing to take a chance on his top 5 TE potential. I don't have any one STUD WR, but I have 4 good WR's to fill 3 spots.
11Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Fri, Sep 03, 2004, 09:42
the early taking of youth in this draft was truly bizarre.

that being said, Roethlisberger was my third QB taken, so having two definite starters ahead of him is no problem to me. and the fact i have big Ben as a Daunte Culpepper makes him a good risk at that pick. that's one way you do keeper leagues.
12Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Fri, Sep 03, 2004, 10:09
I totally disagree. In a 2 QB league with 5 Off. keepers you better be keeping 2 RBs and 2 QBs because you're not gonna find crap available next year.

I hope you drop Pennington. You would seal your fate.
13Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Fri, Sep 03, 2004, 10:12
Hind sight is 20-20 culdeus. I rolled the dice that Pennington would still be on the board in the 5th round. He almost lasted that long. I gambled and had it paid off I would have solidified my draft. With losing Ricky Williams I had to take a chance.

By the way, I think Terrell will still perform up to Terrell standards unlike the critics.
14Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Fri, Sep 03, 2004, 10:20
I give my draft a 7 out of 10.

I was rattled in the first round picking last. (Especially seeing half of my team from last year go ahead of me and right after me. You guys should be glad we didn't do 5 o keepers this year.)Anyways, by the time it got to me there were no rb2's worth taking so I went with Trent to give me 2 4000 yard passers and my highest ranked wr. I was hoping with the next pass to get Chris Brown or another solid starter, but they were all gobbled up again. At that point I had to go best available for 2 rb3's. The rest of the draft I felt like I was playing catch up at RB. Eventually I settled into taking the right guys to fill spots.

As far as my young nonstarters go, I picked up some guys behind injury prone starters and made sure bye weeks worked out so I could stash them on my bench for the whole season if I needed.

Biggest reach- Sean Taylor

Best picks- wr's moulds in the 8th could be a top 10 guy. The only reason he stunk last year was because he had a hammy. McCardell if traded could be great in round 21.

I have to defend Clay on the db's. There are only about 6 guys worth having as db's. The rest just fill spot. At a max you should have 2 starters and a bench guy.

I also think people are going to struggle to keep "potential" on their bench during bye weeks unless they planned it out.

As far as the young qb thing, I think with the limited number of qb's you have to get 3 guys that you know will play. The bench is just too short to keep a 4th qb when you have to start 18 players a week.

15Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Fri, Sep 03, 2004, 10:31
Pappa-
TO was a bad decision. If you look at who was available with your first pick you could have had pennington and 2 very good rb's. Then when it came back around you could have had a very good wr and another top qb/rb. Those 5 guys would have been a better team.

Or you could have kept Bennett and Dillon and taken Hasselbeck with your first pick.

I predict Moulds in the 8th will put up par numbers as TO as a keeper.
16Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Fri, Sep 03, 2004, 10:41
Bennett as my keeper would have been terrible. No matter how Minn phrases it, he is in a RB by committee situation. I do not like Bennett.

Moulds - once a hammy always a hammy. Battles you ought to know that from your football days.

lol. TO will outperform Moulds.

I agree my team would have turned out better if I had kept Pennington but that is in hindsight. I thought I might snag Penn. in the 5th round. And almost did. Had it worked out you would be singing a different tune.
17Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Fri, Sep 03, 2004, 10:45
It is not in hindsight. If you looked at player values and projected to that round you would have seen that. With all the keepers rb's were going to be gone quickly, so qb's in a 2 qb league were going to get picked next. I had Pennington as my #5 qb. culcrapper, manning, hass, green, penn, vick.
18Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Fri, Sep 03, 2004, 16:05
Could I have pulled a better draw:

I play Peloton week 5, Priest Holmes BYE
I play Legges week 7, Barlow + Portis BYE

Nice.
19Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Fri, Sep 03, 2004, 16:14
I think I have the toughest schedule. I could be this year's version of Hamid.
20Marshall
      ID: 3970214
      Fri, Sep 03, 2004, 18:17
What the hell is that cludeus? My picks are solid, I had absolutely no keepers sisnce I didn't draft last year and to field the team I did is incredible...how the hell did I get 3rd last year...skillz clay...skillz. IDP's are a crap shoot anyway..most of us will pick up another player after the 2nd week. And I agreee with the above, your RB's are suspect.
21Hamid Toliyat
      ID: 137342216
      Fri, Sep 03, 2004, 22:30
Brad, I'll beat you with Holmes tied behind my back.
22culdeus
      ID: 406391518
      Sun, Sep 05, 2004, 18:39
Here is a sheet I created that gives the projected points breakdown. To compromise with Battles and everyone I factored in 50% DD and 50% last year's numbers for IDP but I used 100% DD for the offense as last year's numbers are much less of an accurate guide. This is for starters only and if you didn't get enough in the draft to fill your spots I gave you 80 points for the holes.

QB-PK IDP5050 TOTAL
culdeus 2297 905.5 3202.5
Battles 2167 854 3021
Tom 2153 845.75 2998.75
legge 2115 867.75 2982.75
Brad 1975 848 2823
Lil 2082 722 2804
Bonka 2034 769 2803
Marshall 1961 790.25 2751.25
Tree 1987 738 2725
Promize 1852 721 2573

I wasn't about to post this with a bunch of pasted excel generated html code everytime I do it it screws up the whole window and guru sends me an email telling me I just added 2MB to his storage space and not to do it again so fight through the formatting.
23Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 09:22
Clay, you can take your projections and stick 'em.
24Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 09:47
And as for you Hamid - I plan to pound your team, without Holmes, into a bloody pulp.
25Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 11:44
It looks like waiver with yahoo won't work anymore. In the past a locked manager could still put in player requests, but now it just tells you that you are locked.

Anyways we need to figure out a system. One way I have thought of is for me to make an email account devoted only to waivers in our league. People could email their waivers to that address and I could manually enter players and change waiver priority. None of that would be a problem. Everything would be on the honor system.

We also need to discuss waivers for weeks with thursday games. I don't think we should start waiver then and continue till the next wednesday. How does starting them at gametime on thurday and extending them until midnight the next night.

26Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 13:25
Scratch the post above. I'm making an executive decision that waivers will be sent to ufcwaivers@gmail.com and processed at 5pm cdt on wednesday.

thurday games will have a 1 day waiver period from gametime till friday at 5pm cdt.

saturday games will follow the regular waivers.

Once games start there shouldn't be anyone picked up until the waivers have been processed on wednesday. I will edit illegal moves made during waiver periods.
27Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:13
Anyone interested in Lamar Gordon? I need a te and/or some d guys.
28leggestand
      ID: 25852616
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:18
I am confused how you got Gordon already. I thought we had to email waiver requests to the above address, and that they would be processed tonight?
29Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:25
yep. this is rediculous and overly confusing.

Gordon would have been picked up by me before 6 am this morning.

as far as i understand post 26, both Gordon and Pittman and everyone else picked up today should be waivers and not free agents.

i would not have EMAILED you a waiver request yesterday if i had known we could just pick guys up.

i'm protesting both the pittman and gordon pickups.

post 26 was the most recent discussion of the waiver system, and right now i'm feeling totally ripped off by not picking up gordon this morning by trying to follow the waiver rules.
30Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:31
What part of post 26 are you not understanding or that would make you think there aren't free agents? I haven't checked the waivers because we haven't been using them. What is sooooooo confusing?

We have waivers during the waiver periods above and those mentioned in post 86 (&0) of discussion #5.
31Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:34
I guess the first sentence could be taken out of context IF people didn't already understand the waiver period after teh draft was over last saturday.
32Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:34
this part of post 26:
I'm making an executive decision that waivers will be sent to ufcwaivers@gmail.com and processed at 5pm cdt on wednesday.

that means that all players are on waivers, and processed at 5 pm on wednesday. which is in about 5.5 hours.

clearly, more than one person was confused by this.

if we're just going to pick up free agents whenever we can, what's the point of using an email waiver system, and not yahoo's system?
33Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:37
The point of using it is for weekly games. In case of injuries, breakout performances, etc.
34Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:39
EVERY game is a weekly game, no?

the post implied that all players were on waivers until processing at 5 pm on wednesday.

i understood this, legge understood this, and probably others understood this.

why would i have emailed a waiver request to you yesterday on someone if no waivers applied? why would you have not explained it then?

every game is a weekly game. these rules should apply leading up to EVERY week, including the first week, and it was implied as thus.
35Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:40
Does everyone want to go through waivers till tonight?
36Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:41
Well first, I agree with Tree... You posted one thing, and did another...

Second, I still never even saw what the waiver order is?

I see two pickup's in our league already, and it isn't even 5pm...

Might decide to drop out if things are set in stone and organized a bit better...
37Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:42
Well, you look at post 26 really hard, but you never read post 0 and 86 of discussion 5. If you understood that you would understand what I'm talking about in post 26.
38Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:46
from post zero of discussion 5:
I want to end this draft no later then Tuesday, until Wednesday night would be a waiver-time (order will be in reverse order of picking the draft position, ArtOfMonk will be first, and myself will be last), after that all players are free agents until the begin of their first game.

what i put in bold very clearly states that it will be WAIVERS until wednesday night, and AFTER that will be free agents until the beginning of their first game.

post 85 (i presume you meant that, and not post 86) says:

All undrafted players should be automatically set on waivers until Wednesday night.

it is not even wednesday afternoon right now battles.
39Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:46
So you change it in this thread, but now your saying that the post you made days ago is actually the real post?

" I'm making an executive decision "

Which means your overriding anything previously said... is my interpetation.
40Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:46
Post 0 #5

Well I've spent my time waiting entering about 190 players into yahoo. It was a joy sifting through 1000 players to place them on each team.

On another note, here is what I'm proposing for waiver rules.
#1-We will go last to first of the first round for waiver order. Selecting first overall has the biggest advatage of the draft and so on.
#2-The original waiver will start once we are finished and extend to Sunday around 3pm cdt. After that players will be FA's until the first game.
#3-I will manually create a waiver period weekly. The time will be from the start of the first game of the week until the following wednesday at 10pm cdt. After that it's FA's till the games. (note-I will note be able to exactly start the waiver each sunday, so a little honesty in helping out would be appreciated)


post 84
Bonka-when your computer/internet starts working let me know who you want. Till then I think Jack Brewer will fit in well.

IT IS FINISHED!

I'll put the guys in tonight and start the waiver period. If it's different than sunday at 3 pm cdt I'll post it here.

post 86

waiver time says sept 4th. I don't think I can change that.

41Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:47
Tree-your in the wrong league.
42Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:47
Once again, you changed that when you made an executive decision... The time that is..


But thanks on the clarification about the order...
43Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:49
It FREAKIN says "scratch the post above"
44Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:50
So between saturday and the post above you guys would have been fine with free agents being picked up. That makes no sense.
45Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:53
oh yea. look at that. wrong league. lol. nice.

even so, from your most recent post in this thread - I'm making an executive decision that waivers will be sent to ufcwaivers@gmail.com and processed at 5pm cdt on wednesday.

that makes it very clear to me that all players are on waivers until 5 pm.

46Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:53
I'm making an executive decision that waivers will be sent to ufcwaivers@gmail.com and processed at 5pm cdt on wednesday.

thurday games will have a 1 day waiver period from gametime till friday at 5pm cdt.


My interpetation of that is, we send you an email... You have the list of the waiver order.. Whoever is the highest pick in the waiver order will get the player.

Since you picked first, would you not be the last one to even get a chance at Lamar?
47Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:54
Fine.

We are going through waivers till tonight.

After that everyone will be free agents till the game time waivers and only during those waiver time are guys not free agents.
48Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:56
You guys seriously need to read post after post that I put in concerning all these subjects. There was no concern about them days ago.
49Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:57
You send me an email if you want a guy during WAIVER PERIODS. The rest of the time they are free agents.

It has been stated at least twice that waiver will go backwards from the first round of the open draft.
50Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:58
thanks.

i'm glad i'm not the only one who read that the same way.

Battles - maybe you should post the process - whatever the final one is - on the thread on the yahoo site.

the waiver period, the free agent period, and waiver process, etc etc
51Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 12:00
As a commish Battles, you need to listen to people in the league... You have 2 people, maybe more reading your rules a certain way... I mean, as a commish I would think you would want everyone to have a fair chance and a fair league...
52leggestand
      Sustainer
      ID: 451036518
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 12:09
Battles, we just had different interpretations than what you posted, which is easy to do in the age of the cpu.

I didn't put a request in for Gordon because I lack roster space for him, but if I wanted him, I would of emailed you a waiver request. I took that the opening Thursday game fell under the thurday games will have a 1 day waiver period from gametime till friday at 5pm cdt, , but you meant after the season starts.

We are going through waivers till tonight.

I think that's a good decision.
53Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 12:11
post 135 #4

I'm going to need to set up waiver rankings once we get the guys in yahoo. I think it is only fair that we go in opposite order from those that selected first in the open draft. So waivers would be from me->pappa.

Thoughts?

Post 0 of #5 also states this. It has also been set that way on yahoo since i put in players. The person picking at the end of the first round of the draft is at the greatest overall disadvantage of any draft.
54Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 12:17
Note:Players will go through waivers tonight a 5 cdt. After 5 they will be free agents till game time on thursday. From game time thurday till friday at 5 there will be another waiver period. After 5 friday till the game time of the next game players will be FA's. From game time of teh next game until wednesday at 5 there will be another waiver period. From 5 wednesday till the next game players will be FA's. If you don't want a waiver put in due to confusion please email it to the waiver address.
55Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 12:29
Does anyone have a problem with the waiver priority?
56Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 12:40
Well I think I had figured things wrong in the waiver order, your original draft you picked last right?

So yah, that would make since as you would be first in the waiver order I think... Been sick last couple days, so not thinking all that well...

The only thing someone could argue is that you picked first this year though...

It is obviously that everyone isn't online, maybe you should send a league email out and have a league vote...

Majority votes are always better then "executive decisions" LOL Then you can always fall on, well the majority wanted it this way!
57Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 12:50
Promize- I tried repeatedly to get response on these subjects. I have to make executive decisions because a)people don't respond b)when they do it's not fun trying to please everyone (please read through me trying to get a draft organized) c) the season is starting d)the waiver priority has been set since people have had rosters on yahoo. They all have checked in and the waiver priority is on the frontpage.

I tried to solve all these problems weeks ago and since I got no help I did it myself.
58Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 12:55
As a commish of a 4 year league, I know how that is... But I use the email system instead of the forums, I know everyone checks their emails...

Problem at times with forums, people just scroll all the way down to the bottom... Missing a few post...
59Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 13:14
Due to the confusion I have return any FA pickups to their original teams. I have also clearly stated all the rules here. Waiver priority is fairly set opposite of the 1st round of the open draft. This is what every league I have been in has done. If someone wants to discuss this issue then feel free.

RULES-Please read

1- There will be 5 offensive keepers and 3 defensive keepers as the league continues next year.

2- The waiver priority is set opposite of the first round of the open draft.

3- Waiver Periods and Free Agents

There is a waiver period from the end of the draft until the wednesday (5pm cdt) before the opening day.

There will be a waiver period starting on Saturday or Sunday from the game time of the first game until the following wednesday at 5pm cdt.

When a Thurday (or other weekday) game occurs there will be a waiver period from game time till 5pm cdt the next day.

If there is not a waiver period active, all players are free agents.

Managers can not pick up players exactly at 5pm as free agents. The commish will post in this forum when waivers have been processed. The free agent period will begin exactly one hour after that post.

Only waiver pick ups affect your waiver priority. Moves made during FA periods do NOT affect your priority.
60Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 17:08
Waiver will be processed in about an hour. If you want someone please send it to ufcwaivers@gmail.com asap.
61Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 17:31
Well, soooo I took the grading scale and got a couple LB's.. Doesn't mean you was right! LOL
62culdeus
      Leader
      ID: 43105818
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 07:46
Somehow I don't think Al Wilson got me 68 points, but I still hung twice a hundred on Brad anyway.
63Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 11:35
Legge A+ (Preseason pick to win championship)

Guess my team isn't so bad after all, since an A+ team is just barely beating a D team by 2 points... If Gonzales would of had any sort of good game last night.
64leggestand
      Sustainer
      ID: 451036518
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 15:44
Don't be too excited Promize, My team is overrated.
65Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 17:06
LOL well it was a little sarcastic, meaning any week at any time a team can beat anyone.
66Hamid Toliyat
      ID: 137342216
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 18:26
I could hit 250+ after tonight, still have Davis, Smith, and Minter.
67Hamid Toliyat
      ID: 137342216
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 19:05
My favorite injuries to look forward to this year:

Fred Taylor (groin) - it's been 2 years, he's due
Chris Brown (sternum) - same injury at CO
Marshall Faulk (knee) - SJ looks good, they'll shut down Faulk quick
Michael Bennett (anything) - just plain frail
Kurt Warner (thumb) - he'll bang it on a helmet about the time Eli would take over anyway

Looks like Charles Rogers (collarbone) will be added to the injury pantheon as well.

Also, I think Portis will go down by Week 10, he should have about 300 carries by then.
68culdeus
      Leader
      ID: 43105818
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 19:19
Don't forget Joey Galloway, hurt again week 1 missing a catchable ball.
69leggestand
      Sustainer
      ID: 451036518
      Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 14:27
A transaction was made today by The Ole Kick...is that allowed?
70Battles
      ID: 58371114
      Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 16:46
sheesh. nope. i'll fix it.
71Tree
      ID: 37818819
      Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 20:52
it's not? why not? it wasnt done during any games?
72Battles
      ID: 32812020
      Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 21:09
from post 59, a post on yahoo, and an email sent out on sep. 8th

There will be a waiver period starting on Saturday or Sunday from the game time of the first game until the following wednesday at 5pm cdt.
73Tree
      ID: 37818819
      Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 22:18
ugh. ok. i'm just having a tough time keeping up with four leagues with four different waiver systems. all is cool...
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