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0 Subject: RQFL #3 Draft Discussion - III

Posted by: Promize
- [19742168] Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 10:37

Just a reminder!! Season starts in:


1Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 11:25
Looks like AG has timed out. I'll go ahead and make my 2 picks.
2Pops
      ID: 54726118
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 11:41
Battles - Aaron Schobel was taken 13.10.
3Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 11:45
Sorry, it was skipped over and I forgot to update my chart. I'll change it.
4Baldwin
      ID: 3830420
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 11:55
I cannot believe Mike Peterson couldn't last 6 more picks. It's the near misses that hurt.
5Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 12:01
He said he didn't want to be on your team and have to pronounce Adewale Ogunleye. He like teams with nice American names.
6Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 13:54
time to move on. AG has timed out again.
7Athletics Guy
      ID: 45811713
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 14:15
Sorry about that. I left a queue, but I guess Holt was busy.
8holt
      ID: 497552
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 15:00
sorry AG. this is the first chance I've had to get on-line today.
9holt
      ID: 497552
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 15:41
I've got a queue from promize, but it was sent on saturday. wonder if I should pick from it.
10Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 15:42
No I'm here...
11Pops
      ID: 54726118
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 15:52
Holt, how exactly do I add players to my roster in rotoworld?
12holt
      ID: 497552
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 16:43
pops - go to set-up, then draft, then click this link:
(Click here to enter the rosters after your draft)

13Athletics Guy
      ID: 25845713
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 17:00
Are we going to stay with the 2-hour clock for tomorrow as well? Or shorten it?
14holt
      ID: 497552
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 17:19
pops - go ahead and pick if you're around.

AG - we'll see how we're standing later tonight. if we have to shorten it to an hour we will.
15holt
      ID: 497552
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 17:22
5 of our team rosters are entered so far. they only take a few minutes to do. if you want to do your own then that's cool, otherwise I'll take care of it.
18Athletics Guy
      ID: 25845713
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 17:39
Another question: what is the playoff format/schedule for this league?
19Pops
      ID: 54726118
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 17:54
Holt I just emailed you my # and Battles has it from before...don't hesitate to give me a ring if it gets back to me tonight.

Also, I had the same problem as someone noted previously. I saved my lineup, went to set it, and there's nothing available.
20Baldwin
      ID: 3830420
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 18:15
Someone has entered my team for me but when I try and look at my roster it's empty. No biggy, it'll be done right at the end of the draft I presume.
21holt
      ID: 497552
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 18:38
you can't see your roster because we're not in "in-season" mode yet.
22holt
      ID: 497552
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 18:40
ag -- I don't remember the playoff set-up exactly. something like week 13 the top 8 teams go to play-off mode. that info can be found in a thread called RIFC draft prep.
24Athletics Guy
      ID: 45811717
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 18:47
The Rotoworld site is just confusing me. I looked at the team and weekly schedules, and it showed our regular season ending after week 13. But when I click the playoff schedule link, it says:

"Your league is set up to start the playoffs week 16. However your League Manager has not set up the way the playoffs will work. The League Manager can do that in the Setup section."
25holt
      ID: 497552
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 18:47
yeah - I haven't set that up yet. I think everything else is set though.
26holt
      ID: 497552
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 18:49
bmd on the clock.
27holt
      ID: 187472321
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 20:31
hubble and bmd both posted that they are around to make their picks now. hubble said not to wait for him, so when his picks come up we'll give him a few minutes to see if he's around or not.
28holt
      ID: 187472321
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 20:34
also - there's a queue for wazaap guy in the other discussion thread.
29holt
      ID: 187472321
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 20:50
I'm here at justin's house. we'll give hubble a few minutes in case he checks in.
30holt
      ID: 187472321
      Tue, Sep 07, 2004, 21:28
pops, if you're around - give lilpeeper one hour to make his pick, then your clock starts.
31kev
      ID: 3155515
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 02:17
Entered my lineup...I tried before, but it didn't seem to save it.
32Baldwin
      ID: 3830420
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 04:18
The queue for wazuuupguy has already been used. I doubt he wants another kicker and in fact I'm almost certain all the kickers on that list are now gone.
33holt
      ID: 497552
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 05:17
one-hour limit for everyone today.
if the draft is still going at 9 pm central then we will abandon draft order and everyone will pick there last players, first come first serve, just to get it over with.

I'll make sure all the rosters are ready to go tomorrow night and we will be able to set our lineups by thursday morning.

make sure you all get your roster set before the game.
34blue hen
      ID: 372102211
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 08:42
Hey guys, I appreciate the RIFC picks, but I now have a full slate of defensive players (and two on my bench). Please pick only offensive players or team defenses from here on out...
35Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 08:45
Hey Holt, you should email the league telling them the 1 hour thing...

I might have to send you a que again or someone during my class hours.
37Pops
      ID: 54726118
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 10:16
Twarpy has timed out, Promize is up.
38Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 10:29
K, picking in a minute or so...

BMK you are down a pick still, you have missed 2 rounds
39Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 10:37
I will have my pick right after Promize as I am alert and present and have 2 hot picks on Q.
41Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 10:52
Wazuuupguy is up.
42Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 10:54
...and he has no current Queue and hasn't checked in in a looong time. I am guessing he's in school atm.
43Pops
      ID: 54726118
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:13
Baldwin please repick - Julius Peppers was taken in the 10th round.

44Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:18
crap

I use ctl-F continuously...dont know how that could happen.
45Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:22
Ah...lil peepers misspelled it Pepper and ctl-f doesn't read that for Peppers.
46Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:22
There goes 8 hours of research yesterday.
47Pops
      ID: 54726118
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:24
The same thing happened to me on Justin Fargas...he was "Justis" Fargas and didn't come up under Justin.

Though Justis sounds like a much cooler name for an RB, and a much cooler name all around really. It's not just a third down name :-).
48Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:40
It's really safer to just use a partial form of the word you are looking for. I do that a lot, just not in this case.

Farg or pep would have handled those cases.
49Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:41
Guess my Lamar Gordon pickup is gonna turn out to be pretty good... Will see.
50Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:56
Unbelievable. Good for you.
51Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 11:58
What's even worse is I just found out the kicker I just picked just got injured.
52Pops
      ID: 54726118
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 12:23
Wazaaap guy has timed out, Athletics guy is on the clock.
53Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 14:13
Um, we give wazaaapguy another hour?
54Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 14:36
Test
55Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 14:37
Wazuuupguy has just timed out again. I proceed to pick 19.04.
56Pops
      ID: 54726118
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 16:01
Twarpy timed out, I'm picking.
57holt
      ID: 497552
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 17:36
i'm around. waiting for bmd's pick.
58Battles
      ID: 517373013
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 17:54
your up holt. it's been an hour.
59holt
      ID: 497552
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 17:55
k - picking now.
60McHubbled
      ID: 1549114
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 18:35
... i'll do my catch up tonight hopefully...

Working too much...

I didnt have time to read the posts... my question is do i need to do something in rotoworld to setup my team?
61holt
      ID: 497552
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 18:40
I can do it hubble. I'll make sure all the teams are set before I go to sleep tonight.

if you want to do it:

go to set-up, then draft, then click this link:
(Click here to enter the rosters after your draft)
62holt
      ID: 497552
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 19:06
lil peeper on the clock now.

hubble and bmd have picks to make up.
63Pops
      ID: 54726118
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 19:10
I picked b/c I wont be around for a while.

I also thought it was safe b/c Lil Peeper drafted a kicker a few rounds earlier.

If he wants to draft Tynes, then he certainly can, and my pick can just be changed to Kris Brown.
64Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 20:43
Blue Hen's 19th pick is a great pick... Damn, didn't even remember to look into him.. A steal this late in the draft.
65Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 20:54
That's a drawback to being in more than one league. I coulda swore he was picked already.
66Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 21:50
There goes my gabriel...so close...10 minutes.
67Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 22:01
Also a very very nice 20 Promize.
68Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 22:25
Ok, I think I got everything updated except for the most recent pickups...

Several teams still need to fill their rosters... Twarpy hasn't picked for 5 rounds...

Update of Rosters
69Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Wed, Sep 08, 2004, 23:14
Since I drafted an injured player I need to move, I was wondering how soon we can get players off the WW. Not for the first week I am guessing?
70holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 00:38
not sure about that baldwin. I'm gonna get these rosters updated asap and set us in season mode. then you can see what kind of moves you can make.
71holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 01:44
I didn't notice that twarpy fell that far behind. we will have to use rifc picks to fill his roster.
72holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 02:25
promize - your chart shows farrior on twarpy and kev's teams. should be on kev's.
73 youngroman
      ID: 206491016
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 02:46
holt - if I get a correct chart I'll try to enter the rest of the teams as soon as I get it. I still have your login-info in my inbox. the first time I entered the players in RQFL#1 i had a similiar problem. the key for me was to fill a team and then save it. then fill the next. possibly the key was also to use IE as browser and not Opera/Mozilla.
74holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 03:16
thanks. I use mozilla.
I'm almost done now. 3 teams left.
I did several teams yesterday and saved each time. as soon as I'm done with these I'm gonna hit the "start season" button. hopefully that will take care of it.

75holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 03:55
rosters now updated. check them over and make sure everything is OK.
76Baldwin
      ID: 28388
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 03:56
Looks good on my team.
77holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 04:27
this is the rifc rules set-up, in case any of you haven't seen it:

Roster
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR
1 TE
1 K
1 Team def
1 DL
2 IDP (flex)
8 bench
20 Total

Offense Category
Passing TD 4
Other TD 6
Passing-2pt conv 1
Other-2pt conv 2
Passing yard 1/25
Rushing yard 1/10
Receiving yard 1/10
Punt return yard 1/10
Kick return yard 1/25
Kick return 0 (no deduction)
Decimal scoring: yes
Int, fumbles lost -2

Kicking
Extra point made 1
Extra point missed -1
FG under 40 yards 3
FG 40-49yds 4
FG 50+ yards 5
Missed FG <30 -1
Missed FG 30+ 0

Team Defense
Sack 1
Interception 2
Fumble recovered 2
TD 6
Safety 3
Blocked kick 2
Shutout 10
1-6 points allowed 7
7-13 points allowed 4
14-20 points allowed 1
21-27 points allowed 0
28-34 points allowed -1
35+ points allowed -4


Indiv Defensive Players
Solo Tackle 1
Asst Tackle 0.5
Pass defensed 1
Sack 2 (half sack=1)
Interception 2
Fumble forced 1
Fumble recovery 1
TD 6
Safety 3
Blocked kick 2
IDP receive points for any touchdowns scored, regardless of cause (off, def, or return)
IDP do not receive other offensive points or return points

All free agents are subject to weekly waivers

Playoffs
8 teams
Top 6 W/L records are seeded 1-6
Top remaining total points are seeded 7-8
Teams with equivalent W/L records are seeded based on head-to-head first, then total points
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)

Schedule
13 week round robin
Doubleheaders all weeks 1-13 (play each team twice)
Single elimination playoffs, weeks 14-16
78Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 09:22
Crap, I must of had a brain fart, I didn't draft a lineman... Can I drop someone and grab someone?
79Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 12:45
Holt have class today or something? Tried to email him, and no response yet.
80youngroman
      ID: 59242611
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 14:15
note on post 77: there are no doubleheaders in Rotoworld.

promize - I think you should be able to do a free agent pickup until the start of the opener today.
81Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 14:38
I tried, unless I am doing something wrong it wouldn't execute, I will try again, maybe Holt turned it on?
82holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 15:41
I'll check it out promize. did you e-mail me the name of the player you want?

waivers run through wednesday each week. I think it should be in full FA mode now.
83Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 15:56
Yah, I emailed you ...

I think it is also listed as a claim waiting to be processed, you can probably force it through as a commish.
84holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 15:59
I'm processing it right now - check in a minute.
85Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 16:03
no go yet
86holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 16:09
yeah - almost there. waiting for the site to respond.
87Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 16:12
I deleted my request, just do it by hand...
it is moving very slow
88holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 16:14
ok he's on your team now. I had to set your lineup to do it, so you'll need to fix the lineup I put in there.
89Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 16:19
Thanks...
90holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 16:28
no problemo.
91Pops
      ID: 54726118
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 17:21
I'm still looking for a top flight WR.
92Hubble
      ID: 1549114
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 17:25
Maybe i'm wrong, but it looks like the league settings are that we get points for punt and kick off return... somethign like 1 point for 10 yards...

and the rules states...

"IDP do not receive other offensive points or return points"

93Hubble
      ID: 1549114
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 17:30
I might be interested in talking pops... i only have S. Moss if it is enought...

maybe 2 vs 2 type of trade... i'll think about something, you can make a proposal too...

94Pops
      ID: 54726118
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 18:15
Ok Hubble,

I'll give you Beltran and Beckett

For

Moss and Dillon.

;-).
95holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 18:23
that's the whole reason for the august 29th trade deadline pops.
96LiLPeeper
      ID: 45839815
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 19:41
fellas wut site is this league run thru? yahoo rite?
97holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 20:18
rotoworld.com

98holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 20:20
http://commissioner.rotoworld.com/lm/reports/leaguehome.asp?leaguenum=100817

maybe that'll work.
better hurry and get your roster set.
looks like everyone is set but you and twarpy.
99holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 20:46
should be an easy victory for baldwin this week. twarpy still hasn't set his starters and he has brady, givens, thornton, and freeney on his squad.
100holt
      ID: 497552
      Thu, Sep 09, 2004, 21:06
hubble - I brought up your question to rotoworld:

Rotoworld.com Customer Service:

By default the IDPs will definitely get credit for kick and punt returns. If you don't want that you need to change the league scoring to score differently for different positions. Then do not enter any scoring for the Default position for kick and punt returns. Enter scoring for kick and punt returns for QBs, RBs, WRs and TEs - that way they will get credit for those stats and IDPs won't

Replying to your message:

hi. my league uses IDP's. we want to make sure that the IDP's don't score points for kick/punt returns. we only want offensive players to score in those categories. can you explain to me how that works? hopefully this is the default setting. otherwise we'll have people drafting DB's who return kicks.
_____________________________________

this sucks. wish I had time to fix this.
101Hubble
      ID: 210302015
      Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 16:26
Should we start a League Discussion Thread?
102Promize
      ID: 19742168
      Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 16:36
Sure, we can start it on the football forum now I think...

Start it up
103Pops
      ID: 54726118
      Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 17:36
Hubble, you offer up first :-).

I don't want to offer too much and then have it accepted lol :P.
104Hubble
      ID: 1549114
      Fri, Sep 10, 2004, 18:09
Shlt... you saw through my machiavellian plan... ok, i offer first...

What about u open AIM sometime... :)
105holt
      ID: 497552
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 16:42
(from the rotoworld site):

The update for scores for Sunday's games is going to take place throughout the day today. We expect to have all leagues updated today. In the future the update of scores will normally be completed by 9 am following game day. Thank you for your patience while we update leagues for the first Sunday.
106Hubble
      ID: 16881313
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 17:35
They show Titans Def point to be 25... and they count twice the 37 yds Int TD...

http://commissioner.rotoworld.com/lm/reports/scoringdetail.asp?leaguenum=100817&showtm=9047&week=1
107holt
      ID: 497552
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 17:52
you should notify them of anything you notice like that. under "help" there's a "contact us" link.
108Hubble
      ID: 16881313
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 18:06
i did

just mentionning that there could be mistakes... you should double check the scores... if you care :)

109holt
      ID: 497552
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 18:18
still waiting for yesterday's scores. you'd think they'd have an automated process for this ready to go.
110youngroman
      ID: 206491016
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 18:26
holt - scores are in their database but not yet listed on every page, try this: your matchup and then click on the points of your team (not your teams name) and you should see detailed scoring for your team. that way you can also view all other teams.
111holt
      ID: 497552
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 20:26
hmmm. twarpy would have the most points in the league right now if he had taken the time to set his starters.
I think that if he doesn't get his starters set by friday we should boot him from the league and find someone else to run that team.
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