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Subject: Playoff scores and smack talk!!
Posted by: Superclydes
- [63402814] Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 04:42
I have put this thread up to talk smack, look at scores and not clog up everyone's email. Here is a preliminary score from Saturday's games. This is totally unofficial, so take it for what it is worth. Quite a surprise yesterday with the Jets beating San Diego. I just wish I had Tomlinson in my lineup this week. No TD's but plenty of points. If I missed someone on your team, I apologize. Again, this is unofficial until the official stats come up from Jon.
St. Louis
Bulger---------20
Faulk----------13
Jackson---------3.5
T. Holt--------22
I. Bruce--------5.5
Wilkins---------9
St. Louis D-----8
Seattle
Hasselbeck-----21
Alexander-------6.5
D. Jackson-----21
Jets
C. Martin------12
Jets D----------4
San Diego
Brees----------20
Tomlinson------18.5
Kaeding---------5
Chargers D------0
Also use this space for smack talk on one another. Ed I am sure you are up for that!!
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| 1 | TrashHaulers
ID: 5704895
Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 06:51
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Here is what I show so far. Everyone should look over the points... mistakes will happen. I think fumbles, catches, 2 pt. conv., etc., are most commonly missed items.
Rank- Team- Total pts- players left
1- Gerhard- 72- 3
2- Skiba- 63- 4
3- Ted L.- 54- 5
4- Spann- 51.5- 3
5- Winn- 50.5- 3
6- Sanders-49.5- 4
7- Burroug-48.5- 4
8- Salazar-45- 4
9- Cobb- 44.5- 4
10- RBP- 39.5- 5
11- McCabe- 39.5- 5
12- JHHH- 37.5- 5
13- Harmon- 37.5- 4
14- Friske- 35.5- 4
15- Ed L.- 31.5- 5
16- Moose- 24.5- 5
17- Dahl- 18.5- 6
18- Shak- 18.5- 6
19- Fry- 10- 6
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| 2 | TrashHaulers
ID: 5704895
Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 06:52
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Speaking of the smack talk... NICE START TRACY FRY!!! 10 points! :-)
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| 3 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 07:54
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Yeah, she is GARBAGE!! He got lucky in Pain Game, but this looks like another walk in the park for me. Do you guys honestly like giving me your money??? I do!!!
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| 5 | JHHH
ID: 2204499
Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 10:49
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I show some differences in the scoring so far:
D. Jackson: 27 points (you forgot the 12 catches = 6 points)
Brees & Bulger: 25 points (3 point bonus for 300yds and bad math?)
Gates: 24 points (3 point bonus)
Tomlinson: 17.5 points (bad math?)
Chargers D: 2 points (1 sack)
Please recheck and let me know....JHHH
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| 6 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 11:30
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Ok, I can see I did miss some bonus', but I still come up different on one.
Bulger - 18/32 313 2 1
12 pts for upt to 300 yds at 1- 25 yds
3 pts for 300+ bonus
12 pts for touchdowns
-2 for interception
25 points, I am wrong
Jackson - 12 128 1 23
6 pts 12 receptions
12 pts for 100 yds receiving
3 points for bonus
6 pts for 1 TD
27 points I get. Again I am wrong
Brees is the same as Bulger
Gates - 6 89 1 44
6 pts for 6 receptions
8 pts for 89 yds receiving
3 pts bonus for over 80 yards. I think??
6 pts for 1 TD
23 pts is what I get, let me know.
Tomlinson - 26 80 0 12 - RUSHING
- 9 53 0 10 - RECEIVING
8 pts for rushing yds
4.5 pts for receptions
5 pts for receiving yards
17.5 correct on that one.
Chargers D did not have a sack when I looked this morning on CBS. I was not using a live scoring system, so I don't know how I got most of those screwed up. I thought I double checked most of them and I know I did the Chargers because I couldn't believe they didn't get one single point. I am not sure if they changed they stats or what. From now on I will include the stats in the post taken directly from the website like I did here. Sorry for any confusion. Jon, did I do it correctly here?
I really thought I did it correctly this morning. I remembered I had forgotten the receptions on the RB's, so I went back and double checked everything. They must have changed a few things around. Most likely a random act of "Mike Skiba is smoking crack at 0730 and posting stats", but hey, I was in the ballpark.
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| 7 | Ajaye
ID: 1728218
Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 12:04
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So when does the draft start?
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| 8 | JHHH
ID: 2204499
Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 12:05
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OK...Bulger 25 + 1 (rushing)= 26
Brees same = 26.
Gates = 23
Big Ed stopped by and had me check the play by play for sacks, because he remembered them. He was right. NYJets had 2 sacks and 1 INT, so they have 6 points. SD had 2 sack, so they have 4 points.
Good luck to all tonight. JHHH
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| 9 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 12:20
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Ok, so the stats may have been confusing this morning. I probably did miss some of them. As I said, it was unofficial.
Ajaye, not sure if you are in this or not. Doesn't look as though you are. I would have to say that it is a closed book now. It wouldn't be fair to let you in for these games to pick from. There were certainly some lemons last night and there was a possibility of you picking some of them. That would be up to Jon and Ed though.
Sorry about all of the confusion once again, but I was only going on the stats available at the time. When I post them in the AM tomorrow (if someone doesn't beat me to it), I will post the stats with the points. The late game was barely over when I was looking at the stats and they could have changed them since then. This just reinforces the fact that all scores should be checked because these are all being done by hand. Not that I am an idiot, but as you can see there are changes that happen. Just for you Ed, I am an idiot. An idiot who won the survivor league this year!! Just double check whatever is posted out there scoring wise. I am sure that none of us are going to take a scoring mistake personally. We only want to see that the correct score wins this. Mine of course!!
Good luck tonight!!
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| 10 | Ajaye
ID: 58024915
Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 16:25
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I thinks I know what I am talking about so mind your own bees wax, I pick Priest Holmes
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| 11 | JHHH
ID: 2204499
Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 16:36
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Joe..quit spoofing Ajaye!!!
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| 12 | JHHH
ID: 2204499
Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 16:38
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After 3 games.
Team Total pts players left
Friske 66.5 1
Spann 67.5 2
Ed L. 108.5 1
RBP 105.5 2
Harmon 93.5 2
Ted L. 100 3
Fry 66 3
McCabe 142.5 2
Moose 30.5 4
JHHH 45.5 4
Cobb 52.5 3
Gehrardt 144 0
Sanders 61.5 3
Skiba 65 4
Dahl 72.5 2
Winn 52.5 3
Salazar 55 3
Shak 64 3
Burroughs 87.5 1
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| 13 | RBP @ Work
ID: 39228222
Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 18:30
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Go RBP!
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| 15 | Joe
ID: 43771512
Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 02:32
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A nice lead for me to blow
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| 16 | Superclydes
ID: 24721137
Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 03:18
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I hope all of you Manning people make it close for me in the superbowl. No QB in the big dance will really hurt!!
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| 17 | JHHH
ID: 44115482
Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 04:23
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At this point I'm hoping for a Viking/Colts Superbowl!!!
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| 18 | RBP @ Home
ID: 39025218
Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 05:04
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Manning in the dome vs the Broncs was the time to play him. He will not get 49 points again.
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| 19 | Superclydes
ID: 24721137
Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 07:01
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True he may not get them, but he will certainly get points in the future. If he is in the Superbowl and you have played him and the other QB, I will be using however many points he will get then. I think he will have a good game against NE as well. Maybe not 49, but he should have a monster game.
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| 20 | Joe
ID: 43771512
Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 16:18
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Superclydes, that logic goes for any player in either conference. Why dont you do us all a favor and tell me who the two QB's will be in the Super Bowl, so I dont mess up again. I just had a feeling about Manning and Wayne, I came so close to picking Harrision for that game. Both had nearly record breaking performances, that wont likely be repeated this year.....lucky me.
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| 21 | Joe
ID: 43771512
Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 16:19
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So close to the A. Green TD too, that really hurt, wish they would have challenged.
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| 22 | Superclydes
ID: 24721137
Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 02:51
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If I told you who would win, what advantage would I have? Look, Indy has probably the most powerful offense the NFL has seen in the past 20 years or so. There is the distinct possibility that they will make it to the big dance. NE won their last meeting because Vandy missed a 48-yarder. They also stopped Edge on fourth and one late in the game. Indy's defense was terrible in the beginning of the season. They aren't that bad now. NE was on a winning streak where no one could stop them. Since then, they have lost, Manning went on to become the MVP of the league and break Marino's single season TD record. And after the game on Sunday, they are out to prove that they are the best in the league. It would just make sense to me to keep him around so that if they make it to the superbowl, you have a chance of playing him. Now if you have already played him, you have to gamble on whomever the NFC QB will be. I just don't see anyone stopping Indy this year. Just a hunch.
I also know that the total points is what counts. Yes, Manning probably won't repeat the 49 point performance of last week. You have a 30 point lead on the rest of us because of your Wayne feeling. Nice move on your part. I applaude you for that one. I didn't see that one coming. I am just thinking that at the beginning of this, you have to "predict" who is going to the superbowl and use the next best available players who will score you points to keep your options open for the superbowl. I don't want to be caught having to start a backup in the superbowl. Manning will put up points no matter what.
My strategy is to pick the best available players from the losing teams each week. Being able to have a full lineup of starters at the end will most likely put you on top.
Did I think Manning would have a good game on Sudnay?? Yes, of course I did. I also thought Culpepper would be airing it out because I thought they would be down and their lack of a running game. I didn't think Minnesota would win, so that is why I picked Culpepper. There was only a 9 point difference between the two.
Sorry to drone on about this but that is my strategy and I am fourth in points, so I must be doing something correct.
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| 23 | JHHH
ID: 44115482
Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 08:06
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Well, as for my ill-fated strategy, I had a feeling Minnesota would upset GB. Additionally, Favre had lit up Minnesota's weak 2ndary twice this year. It didn't happen the 3rd time...ouch! I was salivating at the opportunity to use Culpepper and Manning in later rounds, but Favre's 4 INTs and Javon Walker's injury have put me so far behind now it just won't matter.
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| 24 | Superclydes
ID: 24721137
Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 08:54
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I also was wrong in my predictions last week. 1-3. I don't think I hurt myself too bad though. The only one I can see getting hurt by was Culpepper because without TO, Philly is hurting.
I will stick by my strategy and see if it pays off.
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| 25 | Superclydes
ID: 24721137
Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 08:13
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I guess my brilliance in predictions and outstanding forsight has stunned everyone into silence!!
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| 26 | Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 08:25
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Superclydes, have you ever played the SW/TSN playoff games? I'm not sure exactly what rules you guys are using or playing with here, but based on my experience in those games, you want to have the highest scorers early on (like Manning and Wayne this past weekend) because it gets harder to predict who will have a big game later on. After this week, there will be half as many players left to choose from, which makes it much more difficult. Plus, usually the better defenses make it further in the Postseason, so offensive scores usually aren't great late (although if you started Brady or Delhomme in the SB last year, you did alright).
Another strategy is to take only players from one conference, so you are guaranteed to have guys from the other conference in the SB. This alleviates concerns about having to start a backup QB, or 3rd down back.
So, for example, if I started Manning last week and couldn't start him again, I would start Brady this week. Stick with the AFC, and hope that Culpepper or McNabb make the SB. Heck, even Vick could have a good game in the SB. Bulger, too. All of the remaining NFC QB's are good to start, I'd say.
If I had started Culpepper last week, I'd go with McNabb this week. He'll probably have a nice game against Minnesota and their silly Defense.
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| 27 | Ednecks
ID: 37015138
Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 09:40
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I see we have Superclyde talking trash again? If you think you can predict what will happen next you are only fooling yourself and giving other teams false hope. Plus why give strategy to other players just to show how smart or stupid you are? Superclyde can talk all he wants he won the the big Survivor league and has the right. I won this last year with 11 players and I got lucky in the SB at that. If I remember right Scotty was in the lead by 29 points,but didn't have a QB...so I think it's important to have a complete lineup for the SB to have a chance. McCabe has a good lead going into this week, still within range, but it will take a few teams to faulter to get back towards the top.
I thought Harrison would be shutdown and either Wayne or Stokely would be huge, I took the wrong guy..
This week will be important. I understand that most everyone has a stategy and thinks they are the big man on campus, but even guys like Scotty make mistakes, hince no QB. I got a guy who says this every year and we just laugh. " You all ready for this pick, this is the steal of the draft and you just wish you thought about him" I think most of us have seen all the tricks, it still comes down to a lot of luck......right JHHH
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| 28 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 13:24
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Crue, I do see your point of view. I actually never thought of just playing from one division. Silly me, the obvious is usually the best. I guess the point I was trying to get across is that I think Indy will rock and roll all the way this year. Using up Manning early is going to hurt. Like Ed said in the post after yours, he won because the other guy didn't have a QB to start. The guy in the league has a 30 something point lead. In comparing our scores he had Wayne's 42 points which put him ahead of me. Manning can put up huge numbers any week.
BTW we are running a pretty standard scoring system. Fair in TD and yards.
I am not afraid of putting my strategy out there. If people didn't have strategy going into this, their fault. If they did, they aren't likely to change their point of view. There aren't a whole bunch out of the 19 teams that are actually in contention. The 170+ points was a HUGE total and very hard to make up 70 points if you only had an average week or worse in three remaining weeks.
This is very similar to the Survivor league. Picking the right backups in that league is VERY crucial. In this league, picking the right players each week so you don't have to use backups is crucial. As I said before, you have to try and "predict" who is going to the superbowl and try to pick the best players out of the losing teams each week.
In comparing QB's from last week, Indy was going to beat Denver. Taking Manning was silly because you knew he was going to be availble next weekend. Why take the best in the first week? Sure, you could argue that taking the best points every week will give you the best score, but in taking the best every week, you most likely are taking winners. What does that leave you with? Not much at the end. I think taking the players who are going to produce, but their team will lose is the way to go. Tortise and the hare?? If you can stay close and have a full lineup at the end, it should put you over the top.
This is a gamble for two reasons. One, if the team you predict to lose wins and you now have players playing next week who you can't use. Two, picking losing teams means they aren't the best. They could have a horrible game and then you are stuck with their crappy score. Very fine balance to run here. I thought Seattle, Green Bay and San Diego would win last week. I got Martin's 12 points and saved LT for the next week and missed 18 points. Now LT is gone and I can't play Martin.
Looking at the schedule and potential matchups for the next week is also a HUGE factor. In using Martin last week, if the Jets won, they were going to play Pittsburg. As they rank #1 against the rush with 82 yards per game. Picking Martin this week isn't a great choice.
Not that I have given my picks much thought, I will close now before I have give my entire strategy away. Yes there is more, but I have to have some advantage.
I don't think I have right to talk crap. Heck, I don't need the right, I just do. Many of you out there won their leagues this year. I am only talking about this league and my opinion.
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| 29 | Ednecks
ID: 37015138
Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 14:18
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Mike your talking out your hole buddy. I'm right and being the defending champ I'm right until this is over, don't forget it!!!
The only advantage from last week was Wayne. If you started both Wayne and Manning/Culpepper, you were in the top five. The bottom line is to be in contention and within reach of the leaders going into SuperBowl week. I won last year staying close and having a complete lineup going into the final week. Plus I had one player the other top five teams didn't and if he had a good game in the SB then that gave me an advantage (Muhammad). Luck and good fortune. If you can stay in the top 5 and still have all the Indy players left in the SB then your probably going to win If Indy beats N.E...people act like that game is already done and dusted...remember Manning was hot last year and he got spanked. No Law and Poole may just be enough to get Indy over the hump. Belichek with two weeks to scheme a game plan is scary folks?
Keep the trash coming. You can make up fifty point before the final week, so this is far from being over for the people who scored over hundred points last week and that's about fifteen teams out of the nineteen.
Shak starting Plummer was a big reach. I can understand starting Farve, but I was the only one tht started Stokely and I got burnt also. Risk taking is the name of the game.
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| 30 | Ted
ID: 4605598
Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 18:25
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Somebody give me the standings.Having trouble with the email........Thanks!
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| 31 | RBP @ Work
ID: 39228222
Thu, Jan 13, 2005, 20:33
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This is not close to being over.
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| 32 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Fri, Jan 14, 2005, 04:34
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Ed, you are saying what I am saying! Staying close and having all of the holes filled in the final game will probably put you on top. Unless those players you saved have a terrible game. Risks are what this is all about. I was just trying to sell my point on why taking Manning in the first week could pose problems. I guess we'll see in the end.
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| 33 | Ednecks
ID: 37015138
Fri, Jan 14, 2005, 05:18
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Mike your words were "not a whole lot of teams out of the nineteen are still in contention" I think everyone that scored 115 or better are still within range of making up the difference.
It's not over my far. I think Manning will not score more then 49 again, but the people that played Culpepper more then made up the ground for not playing Manning and will benifit in the long run.
Just a hunch that Indy gets beats this weekend.
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| 34 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Fri, Jan 14, 2005, 07:32
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I don't know about that. Out of the top 6 or so that have around 135+ still have to make up 35+ points to get even. Not impossible by any means, but out of those 6 teams, they all have to score an average week 120 or so and then the lower teams have to score their backside off. Yes, one week could put someone back into contention, but that would mean that the top 6 would have to have just an average week. I can't see out of those six teams, no one finding the Wayne of last week and pulling off a huge week. My .02 worth. Scotty, I just saw they changed the tour date in Guam. I bet you are glad that they aren't implementing that until after you are gone. Are going overseas or stateside?
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| 35 | Ednecks
ID: 37015138
Fri, Jan 14, 2005, 13:35
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Mike I'm not trying to argue with Ya bud! It wont be easy if McCabe keeps scoring huge or better then most of the other teams. I'm just saying about 14 teams are still within range of getting back into the ballgame. It will still come down too a select few on SB weekend.
I'm mainly saying at 119 points and only 53 points behind or something like that, I cut that down to 20 points by next week and Boom Bob's your Uncle. I see your part, that most likely only a few are going to make a run from that far behind. I can understand that.
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| 36 | Superclydes
ID: 24721137
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 05:19
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I can agree with that statement Ed, but not totally. Yes you may make up 20 points on McCabe. Out of the top 6, I can honestly see one or more teams going off. With less players available, the odds of getting a huge lineup increase. On the other hand, teams are going to interesting because of the can't use twice rule.
I am just not sure anymore. I see both arguments and know that anything is possible in fantasy football. Heck, I even won, so that proves it!! I will just have to wait and see if there is anyone making any huge jumps from down below and if anyone hits a big lineup in the top 6. You gotta love this stuff!!
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| 37 | Ednecks
ID: 37015138
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 05:41
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You never know? The Pitt/NYJ game may be a shootout instead of the Indy game. Not likely!! You can never tell how the game may go. Example: NYG scored 31 on Pitt a few games ago and had the lead at one point, didn't see that coming?
One sure bet is that Vanderjagt will take a shot in the chops this week from the NE defense.
The question this week is, do you gamble or play it safe?
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| 38 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 08:00
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Yeah, but Vandy isn't a small boy by any accounts himself! At 6-5 and 211, I am sure he can dish out some stuff himself.
I have already sent my lineup in and I think I am playing it somewhat safe. I won't give any way here, but I will send you a copy of my roster. I know yours is in as well. I really don't think that the Jets game will be a shootout. The Pit D is just too good to allow that and Pennington isn't 100% either. The flu can really put a damper on how you play. The Indy game has more of a chance of that. Both of the D's are suspect at best and NE has some serious doubts in their secondary. I am sure Manning will try to exploit that one.
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| 39 | STB
ID: 53020159
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 10:20
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Anyone out there?
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| 40 | Joe
ID: 43771512
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 11:06
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Did everyone get their picks in this week.....just making sure. I did not get a confirmation after I sent in mine? Not feeling to good about my picks this week...but anything can happen.
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| 41 | Danny Salazar
ID: 470531511
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 12:54
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QB: M.Vick
RB: E.James
RB: C.Dillon
WR: T.Holt
WR: N.Burleson
TE: D.Graham
K: D.Akers
Falcons "D"
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| 42 | Ednecks
ID: 37015138
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 13:30
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JHHH will let you know If he didn't recieve your lineup. I talked with him about an hour ago and he has recieved most of them. Once he gets all the lineups he will sent out the sheet.
Good luck and did I hear a bone breaking in that Vick game?
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| 43 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 14:38
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All, You shouldn't be placing your lineups until they are posted officially. Send them to someone else in the mix before posting them here.
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| 44 | Ednecks
ID: 37015138
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 15:39
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SuperClyde, Shak Daddy, RBP, McCabe, get off my Rock!!!!
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| 45 | Joe
ID: 220251518
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 19:25
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Never to early to talk trash Ednecks.................
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| 46 | Ednecks
ID: 37015138
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 19:41
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Brien what a loser, He missed twice, can he do it again.
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| 47 | Ted
ID: 4605598
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 20:54
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Nice pick on Curtis guys!
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| 48 | JHHH
ID: 2204499
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 20:58
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Curtis pick already looking huge by 2 guys, Cobb and Buddy.
Nice start for Dunn too! And Vick catches a pass for a cool 1/2 point!
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| 49 | Ednecks
ID: 37015138
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 21:34
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Looks like huge points coming out of the Atlanta game. Buddy looks like he's going crazy.
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| 50 | Joe
ID: 220251518
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 21:43
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I cant open the rosters from the computer I am on.........can someone please tell me that I picked up Holt this week and not Bruce. Thanks
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| 51 | Ednecks
ID: 37015138
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 21:50
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Yeah you started Burress and Holt
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| 52 | RBP @ Home
ID: 39025218
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 21:54
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Who picked the Atl Def/ST? Looking smart so far with the punt return, I figured that the Ram O would turn it over a couple times with a possible (Def)TD return, the ST return is just GRAVY!
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| 53 | Joe
ID: 220251518
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 21:55
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Yeah....Burress was a mistake too, I had Hines Ward till Sanders (the loyal Steelers Fan) told me to change it to the 3 point wonder Burress. We will have words in the morning.
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| 54 | Ednecks
ID: 37015138
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 21:59
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Craig Sanders? I heard he was a punk A$$ sissy?
Just joking...CMSGT Sanders is a outstanding citizen and all-around swell guy....Plus he's bigger then me.
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| 55 | JHHH
ID: 2204499
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 22:43
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Jets D scored 20 points and only Friske had'm. Atlanta with 12 at the moment and lots of people took them.
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| 56 | JHHH
ID: 2204499
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 22:49
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Sack and fumble just moved ATL D up to 16 points. 9 out of 19 teams have ATL D.
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| 57 | JHHH
ID: 2204499
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 22:54
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Well..now the Sack and Safety make it 20. See ya St. Louis.....
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| 58 | Ednecks
ID: 37015138
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 22:55
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Another sack and a saftey. That's 20 points.
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| 59 | JHHH
ID: 2204499
Sat, Jan 15, 2005, 23:03
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Holding penalty just cost Dunn owners a 20 yard TD.
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| 60 | Ednecks
ID: 37015138
Sun, Jan 16, 2005, 12:11
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New thread started folks..this one getting too long.
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