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0 Subject: Ultimate Football Challenge III

Posted by: Battles
- [124332314] Mon, May 23, 2005, 16:55

It's never too early to start. I'm going to go ahead and post last year's teams. Keepers will be 5 offensive and 3 defensive. We'll also need to decide if we're going to stick with yahoo.
1Battles
      ID: 124332314
      Mon, May 23, 2005, 18:00
Roster in order of last year's finish. Hopefully someone has another copy of the rosters and can verify these.

PROMIZE

McNabb
Brees
D. Bennett
B. Westbrook
Gonzo
McGahee
Droughns
Goings
E. Smith
M. Faulk
Roy Williams
Morton
Gardner

Spikes
McGee
D Clark
M Williams
A Wilson (db)
S Foley
A Winfield
C Woodson

SANGRE

LT
Hasselbeck
Dunn
D Jackson
T Jones
J Smith
R Moss
L Evans
Boller
D Graham
Feely
M Bennett
P Rivers
Losman

Sharper
Fletcher
Peppers
Trufant
B Scott
Kiel
Trotter


OLE KICK

Favre
M Muhammad
Edge
Holt
Gates
Bruce
Rod Smith
Kennison
Roethlisberger
Griese
J Lewis
C Taylor
A Smith
Dallas Clark

N Barnet
M Peterson
Ch Grant
E Coleman
J Taylor
A Schobel
Roy Williams





DEAD POETS

P. Manning
T. Green
R. Wayne
A. Green
E. Moulds
A. Lelie
H. Ward
La. Johnson
D. Blaylock
J. Wiggins
S. Jackson
L. Suggs
J. Galloway
D. Staley

Du Robinson
DJ Williams
Cato June
De Smith
M Lewis
S Taylor
M Boulware



LEGGES

C Martin
M Harrison
TO
Rudi
Carr
K Collins
Pittman
J Porter
C Brown
Shockey
Colbert
Ramsey
McNair

Bullock
Briggs
Barton
R Griffith
D Sharper
Dawkins
Macklin
G Wesley


CADE’S

Bulger
Stokley
Fragile Fred
Volek
Witten
K Jones
Palmer
TJ Houshmandzadeh
Barlow
Fitzgerald
Coles
J Jones
A Bryant

Witherspoon
A Pierce
Polamalu
Vilma
D Morgan
T Parrish
Urlacher



BONKA

Tiki
S Alexander
Vick
Driver
Bledsoe
Keyshawn
McCown
S Moss
J Garcia
P Price
M Pollard
A Train
McCardell
T Henry

Reed
Farrior
M Washington
B Simmons
K Lucas
Kerney
Thorton

NEW OWNER

Delhomme
D Davis
A Brooks
J Horn
C Johnson
D Mason
D McAllister
Bettis
R McMichael
K Warner
Zereoue
A Toomer
A Boldin
D Foster

R Barber
Brooking
Wong
C Bailey
T Suggs
D Jones
T Law


PELETON

Culpepper
Plummer
Brady
M Clayton
Priest
E Johnson
Plax
B Lloyd
Duckett
D Branch
W Green
M Hicks
S Davis
S Smith
M Shipp

D Edwards
R Harrison
Bruschi
M Green
Zach Thomas
E Holmes
J Winborn


NORTH ORANGE

J Walker
Dillon
Portis
An Johnson
Pennington
C Chambers
Mr. Whizzinator
T Bell
Heap
E Manning
Mr. Motorcycle
Mr. Holistic Medicine

D Brooks
R Lewis
Al Wilson
Archuleta
J Porter
L Milloy
J Peterson
Arrington








2Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Thu, May 26, 2005, 13:46
I havent talked to Ian yet about taking the NEW OWNER spot, but I am 99.9% sure he wants to play. I'd like to hold the spot for him until I can talk with him next week. He would be a solid addition.
3culdeus
      ID: 55515917
      Thu, Jun 09, 2005, 18:16
I'm ready to finally finish what I started here.
4Battles
      ID: 45536915
      Fri, Jun 10, 2005, 12:05
To finish second three consecutive years? Or to finally let your overachieving team fall to the bottom of the league?
5Tree
      ID: 215341418
      Thu, Jun 16, 2005, 20:44
didn't i win this league last year?
6Battles
      ID: 445121410
      Fri, Jun 17, 2005, 21:07
You won the regular season, but promize came into the playoffs in 4th and won.
Are you planning on returing this year? We definitely would like to have you back in.

7Tree
      ID: 215341418
      Fri, Jun 17, 2005, 21:23
i'd love to be back in...
8BoNkA
      ID: 43552220
      Wed, Jun 22, 2005, 01:52
I'll be back in again this year. Hopefully injuries don't hit me too hard and my guys actually perform for once.

Looks like I have some WR and QB problems. Gotta figure out my 4th and 5th offensive keepers sometime.
9Battles
      ID: 445121410
      Wed, Jun 22, 2005, 23:15
Glad you guys are coming back. I'll try to send out an email tomorrow to get everyone to check in. That way if anyone wants to start trading they can.
10culdeus
      ID: 2555233
      Thu, Jun 23, 2005, 04:57
And can we make it easier and have some set date to declare keepers in reverse OOF¿

Sorry, had to use the international keyboard.

11Battles
      ID: 445121410
      Thu, Jun 23, 2005, 11:56
I like including keepers in the draft like we did last year.
12leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Thu, Jun 23, 2005, 11:57
I am still in.
13Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Wed, Jun 29, 2005, 21:50
Ian is definitely in. He will take over the NEW OWNER slot if there are no objections.

He will fit in nicely.
14Johnny
      ID: 30552308
      Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 09:54
I'm in. looking forward to it.
15Promize
      ID: 17444510
      Fri, Jul 08, 2005, 14:11
My D or F rated team is back to win again of course :) I had a good time last year with you all.
16leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Fri, Jul 08, 2005, 14:25
What's taking so long for everyone to sign up at the ESPN site? I think that if we are doing a fast draft, we should start nailing down dates that everyone is available.
17Battles
      ID: 76271011
      Sun, Jul 10, 2005, 12:42
I'll try to round up the rest.

We still need the replacement guy, cade's boys(he's on a cruise), peleton and bonka to sign up. The only person we haven't heard from is peleton.
18 BoNkA
      ID: 12652140
      Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 01:54
We are signing up on ESPN? I must have missed some kind of discussion or invite. I've linked my email if someone would care to update me on the situation.
19leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 08:47
I just forwarded you the sign up email Bonka.
20BoNkA
      ID: 25615148
      Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 09:15
Hmm, I logged in, hit accept invitation and got this:

We're sorry.

Invitation no longer exists. (It has already been accepted or no UserInfo record exists)
21BoNkA
      ID: 57616148
      Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 09:16
Just realized that link was probably for you only and since I can't find mine, I'm stuck?
22leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 09:26
We'll probably have to wait for Battles to resend you your individual sign up email.
23Battles
      ID: 46654159
      Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 10:59
The invite has been sent.
24BoNkA
      ID: 486581519
      Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 20:58
Don't know what the problem is, but I never got it. I even looked over the 360 emails in my bulk mail folder. I guess try sending one to bonka10@gmail.com as well. Maybe I'll actually get it there. I'm assuming I never got the original invite either.
25Battles
      ID: 46654159
      Sat, Jul 16, 2005, 11:22
I tried with the bonka10 email address. I'd erase that adress from this thread now if you don't want to get spam.
26BoNkA
      ID: 86161613
      Sat, Jul 16, 2005, 14:16
I got it at that address and am now signed up. I can't remove it either, my ID won't stay the same. Way back when I used to be on the boards all the time it stayed, but it doesn't happen any more. Not a big deal, I never use my gmail accounts anyways. They're just there incase I need extra emails for signing up for beta tests and such :)
27leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Jul 19, 2005, 12:56
Looks like everyone has signed up! Any thoughts on the next few weeks and how we are going to proceed?
28BoNkA
      ID: 486182011
      Wed, Jul 20, 2005, 12:18
There is discussion started in the forums on the league site. All I know is we should figure things out asap so we don't have to sit around and worry about it.
29Tree
      ID: 9362211
      Wed, Jul 20, 2005, 13:35
i think we should have all league discussions here.

if we do it on the ESPN site, it will disappear in a year, and we won't have rules or anything saved. here, we can just bump the thread periodically.
30leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Wed, Jul 20, 2005, 13:43
I agree with Tree.
31BoNkA
      ID: 306342017
      Wed, Jul 20, 2005, 18:34
Ok, so what possibilities do we have for the draft then? Slow draft would be fine, except I'd be doing 2 at the same time and it's not something I'd want to be worried about. A live draft would be best, depending on when it's set for. Weeknights are doable but I'd rather try to do it during the day on a Saturday or Sunday.
32Promize
      ID: 396261211
      Fri, Jul 22, 2005, 09:50
Slow or Live is fine with me, but the weekend of memorial day is out for me.
33BoNkA
      ID: 22652258
      Mon, Jul 25, 2005, 09:52
Not sure where everyone is at, but we need to get a draft type and date (if it's live) finalized very soon.
34Tree
      ID: 9362211
      Mon, Jul 25, 2005, 13:22
i vote slow draft, as most of my weekends in august will have me out of the house for an extended period of time...
35Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Mon, Jul 25, 2005, 14:30
I am fine with a slow draft. Coordinating schedules for 10 people sounds like a nightmare.

Lets get it scheduled!
36BoNkA
      ID: 206342513
      Mon, Jul 25, 2005, 14:34
Agreed. I'd go either way but I kind of lean towards a slow draft, even if I'll have two at the same time. Like Pappa said, it's too hard to figure out one time that's good for 10 people.
37culdeus
      ID: 31630622
      Mon, Jul 25, 2005, 20:17
Ugh, slow drafts are such a drag. Somebody just start proposing times and get a yes/no don't quit so easy.

38Tree
      ID: 9362211
      Tue, Jul 26, 2005, 12:54
season starts Sept. 8. let's start the slow draft Aug. 15?
39BoNkA
      ID: 176152612
      Tue, Jul 26, 2005, 13:15
Seems ok to me. Are we going to use the same site we did last year for the draft? I forget the URL, but it seemed to work pretty well for us.
40leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Jul 26, 2005, 13:22
August 15th start works for me. Towards the end of August I am in Vegas, but hopefully most of the draft will be done since then (especially since we should draft our 8 keepers pretty quickly.
41Tree
      ID: 9362211
      Tue, Jul 26, 2005, 16:16
i suggest we just do a slow draft here...
42Battles
      ID: 16652616
      Tue, Jul 26, 2005, 17:19
I'm fine either way. I'm traveling a lot for my job, but I'll be able to do a fast draft on a weekend or slow draft with some help through phone calls.

kafenatid.net was the draft system we used last year. It's $10. I vote that last year's last place team covers that.

As of right now we have a good consensus on starting a slow draft on August 15th. Unless we hear strong opposition from the rest we'll plan on that.
43Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Tue, Jul 26, 2005, 17:43
ah yea, kafenatid. i really like that place. let's do it!
44BoNkA
      ID: 396102619
      Tue, Jul 26, 2005, 20:10
Who was last? Haha.
45BoNkA
      ID: 426112619
      Tue, Jul 26, 2005, 20:11
Just testing my ID, not sure why it's still not working.
46Pappa
      ID: 25241820
      Tue, Jul 26, 2005, 21:23
Hmm, $10. Thats a small price to pay to wipe the floor with you guys this year.

Anybody want a shot at Ricky Williams? He is now on my and Miami's trading block.
47BoNkA
      ID: 196152810
      Thu, Jul 28, 2005, 11:15
Final regular season standings from last season:

1 The Ole Kick 10-4-0
2 Dead Poets 10-4-0
3 Sangre De Toro 9-5-0
4 PromizeRams 8-6-0
5 Legge's Legion 8-6-0
6 Bonka Bombers 8-6-0
7 Cade's Boys 5-9-0
8 Ctown Comets22 5-9-0
9 The Peloton 4-10-0
10 North Orange 3-11-0

That's all your North Orange, haha. Anyways, how are we going to pay for this? I mean, $10 isn't a lot and it'd be $1 each but not worth the hassle.
48BoNkA
      ID: 576172810
      Thu, Jul 28, 2005, 11:17
After looking at this, I now remember the agony I went through. After being at the bottom of the league the previous year, I was tied for 4th but lost the tie breakers and missed the playoffs! Was exciting anyhow.
49BoNkA
      ID: 426232810
      Thu, Jul 28, 2005, 11:23
By the way, does ESPN have free live stats? I like to watch everything as the day goes, but I'm currently split up over three sites, Fanball, ESPN, and Yahoo. I'm hoping ESPN does as I'll probably pay for stat tracker on Yahoo and if we were still there I'd be good to go.

Brings up another question, why exactly did we switch anyways?
50Battles
      ID: 156412816
      Thu, Jul 28, 2005, 18:10
I don't think the live stats are free on ESPN.

We switched because ESPN will handle the waivers. Last year I did them manually and it caused a few problems, so it will be a big help.

Question.

Last year we discussed doing away with the snake draft for this year. Is that something everyone wants to do? The reasoning is that the snake is set up to balance the first rounds where great difference between players picked round to round exist. since we're keeping a total of 8 players we're basically starting in the 9th where differences are usually small.
51leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Fri, Jul 29, 2005, 13:36
I think no snake.
52Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Fri, Jul 29, 2005, 13:40
if we're a keeper league, i definitely think that no snake is the way to go.
53BoNkA
      ID: 46619219
      Fri, Jul 29, 2005, 14:26
No snake is fine with me. Wouldn't matter much for me this year anyways, I'd be 5 one round and 6 another.
54BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Tue, Aug 02, 2005, 14:20
Any updates?
55Battles
      ID: 586212911
      Tue, Aug 02, 2005, 14:54
I don't have any updates. I think we're planning on starting a no snake slow draft on the 15th.

I can't put quite as much organizing time into everything this year because of a new job, but I'll try to nail everything down this weekend.
56leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 02, 2005, 15:29
Battles, if you need any help with anything, just let me know.
57John
      ID: 8759221
      Tue, Aug 02, 2005, 23:11
Battles...I think you forgot to add Leftwich to my team on the original post. Just wanted to make sure. Slow draft is fine. We should be done in a week or two.
58Battles
      ID: 2572939
      Wed, Aug 03, 2005, 10:39
Somehow he didn't end up on the printout. You are 1 player short and I remember him on your team. I'll add him in there.
59Battles
      ID: 2572939
      Wed, Aug 03, 2005, 10:43
It's not letting me edit that post, so let it be noted that cade's owns leftwich.

Everyone needs to check their team. For some reason I have Peleton with 22 players and North orange with 20. Each team shoule have 21. Anybody have another list of the final teams?
60Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Thu, Aug 04, 2005, 10:49
I am on vacation in the hurricane wrecked town of Destin, FL from August 14-19. There is a 0.0001% chance I will have internet access.

First eight rounds will be straight forward but Round #9 will be harder for me to draft...
61Promize
      ID: 396261211
      Thu, Aug 04, 2005, 17:25
Is the draft starting on the 15th?

If so, got a big problem considerin I will be out of town from 16th - 23rd .
62culdeus
      ID: 6722322
      Thu, Aug 04, 2005, 23:00
Season starts 9/11, don't panic. Not as many rounds with all the keepers and what nots.

*Still hoping for fast draft
63John
      ID: 29759520
      Fri, Aug 05, 2005, 22:02
Iles,
This is America...you'll have internet access. :)
On the other hand, If i were on vacation I wouldn't want to mess with fantasy football.
Hope ya'll have a great time...is Olivia going with you?
64Tree
      ID: 1734713
      Sun, Aug 07, 2005, 14:36
has anyone looked at the AOL league manager?

it's looking pretty cool, and appears to ease some of the waiver things we've had issues with...
65Pappa
      ID: 25241820
      Sun, Aug 07, 2005, 21:53
Olivia will be joining us on the trip...her first real vacation. Her eyes will be wide open the whole trip amazed by all the new sites to see.

Funny thing about this trip is that we are paying more money for less perks. (no internet, TV, etc...) Just me, my fantasy football cheatsheets, and a hurricane striken beach.
66BoNkA
      ID: 16734810
      Mon, Aug 08, 2005, 11:34
Can we get a finalized draft type and start date/time?
67BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Wed, Aug 10, 2005, 09:59
It's already the 10th, if we're drafting the 15th we better get it set up. If not, we still better get something set up and let everyone know. Can't be doing this at the last minute.
68Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Wed, Aug 10, 2005, 11:07
where are we playing? have we figured that out yet.

the (free) AOL Manager is pretty dang cool, and it lets you run a keeper league and keep players year to year and such...
69BoNkA
      ID: 527431012
      Wed, Aug 10, 2005, 13:43
I haven't looked at the AOL site yet, but I heard it even has free live scoring, which is a huge plus for me :)

Anyways, I'll check it out in a little bit and post my thoughts.
70BoNkA
      ID: 507451012
      Wed, Aug 10, 2005, 13:45
Actually hell, I just peeked at it real quick and don't see anything wrong with it. I say we give it a shot and try it out this year.

We need to finalize the league and the draft ASAP.
71Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Wed, Aug 10, 2005, 16:11
free live scoring, internal message boards, keeper retention, team logo you design, league logo you design, and other cool stuff...
72Promize
      ID: 396261211
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 09:57
When is this draft?
Is it slow or fast?

When do we set our keepers?

Why are we waiting till the last moment to make decisions?

I'm leaving on the 16th back on 23rd, lets get something in stone please?

73BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 10:06
I've been trying to get us to get it finalized. We're going to have to do a slow draft, and I thought we were starting on the 15th. We can probably start a few days later if we have to, but I'd like to get going ASAP.

Is someone going to set up the AOL league if that's what we're going to use?
74Battles
      ID: 4175910
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 10:47
I hate making executive decisions, but I think that is what we need to get everything settled right now.

DRAFT DATE-

AUGUST 24TH @ 12:00 CDT
(Promize is back on the 23rd)

-NO SNAKE, SLOW

-Note: I would like to have 5 of 8 keepers declared by 10:00 cdt on the 24th to save time. I think we all know 5 keepers without needing to see who everyone else is keeping. The last 3 could be drafted like last year to allow people to make last minute tweaks.


ESPN VS. AOL

ESPN is already set up and ready to go, so that's what I prefer. It has all the features we need minus free live scoring which I have always lived without. If we get more interest in AOL I'll set it up and get everyone to sign in.

75BoNkA
      ID: 48754119
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 10:54
I live on live scoring, but oh well. We can probably get the draft started a day earlier as well. Promize has the 7th pick and won't exactly be up right away. I also think that we should just choose the 8 keepers and be done with it. No point in wasting time on something that doesn't really need it.

Now should we just post keepers in here or make a new thread?
76BoNkA
      ID: 44759119
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 10:59
Post 47 contains the final standings from last year, pulled right from the Yahoo page, so it includes points and such (tie broken standings).

So draft order should be:

1. North Orange
2. The Peloton
3. New Owner
4. Cade's Boys
5. BoNkA Bombers
6. Legge's Legion
7. PromizeRams
8. Sangre De Toro
9. Dead Poets
10. The Ole Kick

We are using kafenatid I assume?
77Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 11:12
i'm all for AOL. i really like it. i'm also on AOL in 2 other leagues, and it would just make life easier. lol...

man. i draft last. the price i pay for being damned good at this game.

and to save time, i'd like to suggest just naming our 8 keepers in a seperate thread, the sooner the better, with the ability to tweak them anytime until the draft starts.
78Battles
      ID: 4175910
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 11:23
That draft order is NOT correct. Those are the regular season standings. Post one is the order of official playoff standings.

I'd still like to just declare 5 or six and leave 2-3 to be drafted. It's the way we did it last year and the last 2-3 on most roster are going to be in flux depending on who others keep. I'd rather spend a little extra time drafting 3 rounds then everyone changing keepers up until the last minute. Just as an example, Sangre will probably be choosing between an rb and a wr for his 5th o keeper. That kind of decision will absolutely be based on who others are keeping. If we post all the keepers and everyone changes last minute I think it's unfair and creates chaos.

Also,

Tree your not that good.

I'm looking into AOL.
79BoNkA
      ID: 27441110
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 11:44
Alright, well here is the correct draft order then:

1. North Orange
2. The Peleton
3. New Owner
4. BoNkA Bombers
5. Cade's Boys
6. Legge's Legion
7. Dead Poets
8. The Ole Kick
9. Sangre De Toro
10. Promize
80BoNkA
      ID: 447471110
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 11:47
That list is according to the original post. I am confused as to how I finished behind a 5-9 team while I was 8-6. While I'd gladly take the higher draft position, I want to be fair...
81Battles
      ID: 4175910
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 12:28
AOL doesn't look like it will work. I went all the way through the set up process and they don't seem to have flex positions for offense OR defense. If I'm wrong hopefully tree can correct me.

The draft order is based on playoff finish. The top 4 regular season teams are in the champioship bracket. The next 4 are in the toilet bowl bracket. The last 2 don't play in the playoffs. Cade's just happened to pull through in the playoffs to pull ahead of you.
82BoNkA
      ID: 597351111
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 12:36
Ah, I didn't remember the toilet bowl. Haha. Anyways, like I said, I'm fine with the higher draft spot :)

Now, are we going to post keepers in this post or not? I can probably post my 5 today or tomorrow if we're going to start doing so.
83Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 13:16
AOL doesn't look like it will work. I went all the way through the set up process and they don't seem to have flex positions for offense OR defense. If I'm wrong hopefully tree can correct me

although it seems like it's unnecessarily complex, it's actually kind of easy, and more importantly, it allows for flex positions.

from the commish page on "Roster Requirements".

Max # of Starters: This number is the maximum number of starters each position can have in its lineup.

Example: If your league allows you to start either 2 or 3 wide receivers, you'd put a "3" next to wide receivers under the Max # of Starters column.

Max Allowed on Team: Some leagues place restrictions on the number of players from some positions that teams can have. For example, bigger leagues will often limit the number of quarterbacks to one per team.

Example: If your league allows only one kicker per team, choose "1" next to Kicker under the Max Allowed on Team column.

Example: Your league requires 3 receivers, and does not require a tight end. However, owners can play tight ends as receivers. To set this up, set your tight end minimum at 0 and the maximum at 3. Set your wide receiver minimum to 0 and the maximum at 3.

Example: Many leagues play with a "flex" offense that allows either A) 2 RBs and 2 WRs or B) 1 RB and 3 WRs or c) 3 RBs and 1 WR. To set this up, set your running back minimum to 1 and maximum to 3. Set your wide receiver minimum to 1 and maxmium to 3.


basically, if we have 2 RB slots, 3 WR slots, and one RB/WR (flex) slot, you would set RB at 2 minimum and 3 max, and WR at 3 minimum and 4 max.

does that make sense?
84Battles
      ID: 4175910
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 13:33
ok, ok. that makes sense. I was just accustomed to it being a roster choice. I'll try to get the rest figured out to make sure it will be ok.
85Battles
      ID: 4175910
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 14:58
alright. everyone can sign up for aol to take a look at it.

League Name: Ultimate Football Challenge III
Password: UFC3

I don't care either way, but I'm not going to switch everyone without them checking it out.
86BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 15:13
Hmm, which type of league is it? Can't use the league name for any of them, need the ID. Also just noticed it's powered by fanball, heh.
87Promize
      ID: 396261211
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 15:19
You can send an invite to everyones email with AOL.

And is that 12pm or 12am on the 24th? LOL
88Battles
      ID: 4175910
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 15:35
ugh. i'll copy paste everyone's email again. i was hoping people could just sign up.

89BoNkA
      ID: 57401114
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 15:40
Well I would have signed up if I had the league ID. It's not difficult, just don't have the correct info :/
90Battles
      ID: 4175910
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 15:53
emails are sent. sorry I didn't know there was a league id. If you don't get the email it's 523952
91Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 15:55
i'm in. however you have me signed up twice.. :o)
92Battles
      ID: 4175910
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 16:16
I believe it just shows both email addresses. I sent the invite to the gmail address and you signed up with the yahoo one. I think we're fine if we leave it as is.
93BoNkA
      ID: 44761116
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 17:06
By the way, my email is bonkabombers@yahoo.com. I only used the gmail since the yahoo wasn't working for the ESPN league for some reason. I never check the gmail accounts.
94Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 17:28
once logged on, you can change the email address where stuff goes...
95Pappa
      ID: 25241820
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 21:08
The ESPN league site is a lot better quality. Live stats aren't important enough for me to put up with the shadyness of that AOL site.

I vote stick with ESPN since we are already logged in and good to go there. Battles, did you send an AOL invite to Ian?
96Pappa
      ID: 25241820
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 21:11
the AOL site is painfully bad and littered with propaganda so they can offer free live stats. Boo!
97culdeus
      ID: 31630622
      Thu, Aug 11, 2005, 23:31
And their commercials are beyond annoying.
98Battles
      ID: 4175910
      Fri, Aug 12, 2005, 10:17
I sent Ian an invite this morning. I also gave him the link here so he can chime in.

There are still 5 that haven't signed up for aol. We'll give them through the weekend to vote on the host of UFC3.
99BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 019742310
      Fri, Aug 12, 2005, 10:28
Was just mentioning that for any future emails that were to be sent out, because I basically won't get them.

I'm fine with ESPN, and the live scoring isn't a huge deal, it's just a nice extra to make sundays even more exciting.

Sounds like we're staying with ESPN. Now we should just get the draft info finalized for good.
100leggestand
      ID: 52731913
      Fri, Aug 12, 2005, 15:49
I will sign up for the AOL league tomorrow night. I am on vacation, and am having issues trying to sign into the league.

If we move fast, 24th draft start is okay for me...I am in Vegas from the 31 to the 3.
101BoNkA
      ID: 327231621
      Tue, Aug 16, 2005, 22:23
Any updates?
102Battles
      ID: 4175910
      Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 14:36
Nothing to update from me. Was there something specific you need to know?
103BoNkA
      ID: 487301714
      Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 15:30
I guess just a finalzed draft start date and time. And a confirmation that we're just sticking with ESPN.
104Battles
      ID: 4175910
      Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 16:45
still starting on the 24th at noon cdt.

I think we'll just stick with ESPN. Everyone is signed up and everything is set up there already.
105BoNkA
      ID: 47551715
      Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 16:55
We need to get kafenetid set up too.
106Battles
      ID: 4175910
      Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 17:15
I'll get Pappa/N. Orange to pay for it and set it up since he said the $10 was worth it to "wipe the floor" with us.

This is from a guy whose greatest glory is pushing a guy (Tom/Peleton) in socks across a tile floor. Sad.
107john
      ID: 467471716
      Wed, Aug 17, 2005, 17:50
battles...call me tonight and fill me in on the details.
108Promize-In-Phoenix
      ID: 7741818
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 10:47
Hey gang, my flight gets in at about midnight on the 23rd.

I'm on this really bad pent90/28k/win95 computer so bare with me.

I guess I will try to figure out my keepers this weekend some time.. Sucks cause i can't get many websites to work on this computer like CBS/ESPN etc..

Basically just a simple forums board about all i can open.
109Pappa
      ID: 25241820
      Fri, Aug 19, 2005, 21:37
Im back from the beach. Good times.

battles, I guess I'll send you the info once I get logged into kafenetid and let you email it to everybody.
110Battles
      ID: 487141815
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 09:47
Promize, let us know if there is anything we could email to you to help out. Remember 5 keepers aren't due till 10 am on the 24th.

Pappa, I don't mind splitting the cost for kafenatid.
111Pappa
      ID: 25241820
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 13:36
If its only ten bucks...not an issue. That can be the consequeces of last place.
112 Ian-new owner
      ID: 107522020
      Sat, Aug 20, 2005, 21:52
This is going to be fun. So the 24th at 12pm CST, correct? Is this slow or fast and what is exactly is a slow draft? Thanks guys.
113Promize-In-Phoenix
      ID: 7741818
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 12:19
Slow draft means it last over a few days, your not panicing to make a decision in 2 minutes on who you want... You can do some research to find exactly what you need.

Good luck and welcome to the league!!!
114 Promize-In-Phoenix
      ID: 7741818
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 12:22
Hey Battles,

Thanks for the offer, on the offense side, I think my 5 picks are no brainers... Not to worried about those. It is my defensive players that I don't have much information about.

If you could, could you email me or can post here what stats they had last year... Especially sacks/tackles... Also could you let me know their positions and any recent reports on them... Like season ending Torn ACL or such LOL
Appreciate it.
115Pappa
      ID: 25241820
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 21:16
I am getting the draft set up (www.kafenatid.net). I have requested Aug. 24 at noon but will have to wait and see what the administrator gives us. I will notify battles when I get the League ID and password and let him email it out.

In the meantime, it would be helpful if everyone at least signed it to the kafenatid website and confirmed they have a working username and password.

As I understand it we are declaring 5/8 keepers pre-draft. Will we do that here at rotoguru and then draft them in rounds 1-5? with rounds 6-8 being our remaining undeclared keepers? Just want to make sure we have thought through all this to ensure a quick start once the draft is set up.
116Pappa
      ID: 25241820
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 23:21
Draft is set up with Kafenatid. Battles, you should have the invite in your inbox.
117BoNkA
      ID: 5679229
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 10:10
It might be a lot on one person, but we'd be better off if someone entered in all our keepers on the kafenatid site rather than wait for us to put them in ourselves. It will go much quicker and won't hold up the rest of the draft at all.
118Battles
      ID: 5742229
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 10:51
Kafenatid invite has been sent. Let me know if you don't get it.

Promize, I'll work on the d info. Hopefully I'll have it done by tonight.
119Battles
      ID: 5742229
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 10:52
I'll look at kafenatid to see if I can input keepers.
120Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 11:31
As the administrator on kafenatid, I can make all the keeper picks.
121Battles
      ID: 5742229
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 12:03
Will you have time on wednesday morning between 10am and noon to do that?

If not, I could probably find the time and log in as you.
122Battles
      ID: 5742229
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 12:13
Promize- It's not in a great format, but here are the stats for the idp's. Hope this helps a little.

solo, assist, sack, safety, int, forced fumble, rec fumble, td, pass def

Woodson-
59 15 2.5 0 1 2 1 0 9

spikes
64 35 3 0 5 3 1 2 17

mcgee
75 17 2 0 3 0 1 0 15

d clark
99 31 2 0 0 1 0 0 5

m williams
86 17 2 0 3 0 2 1 11

a wilson
81 22 1 0 3 2 2 1 11

s foley
48 17 10 0 2 5 2 0 12

winfield
73 15 0 0 3 3 1 0 8
123Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 12:23
i've signed up
124Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 13:13
As the administrator on kafenatid, I can make all the keeper picks.
125Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 13:15
Probably wont have time between 10AM and noon Wednesday but I could do it the night before...

otherwise, Battles, you'd have to login as me and do it.
126Battles
      ID: 5742229
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 14:17
Well, rather than change everything last minute, I'll probably just do it on wednesday morning. That's unless something urgent comes up at work.
127 Ian-new owner
      ID: 107522020
      Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 23:19
Hey guys, I am registered on the draft site. What are the next steps here? What platform are we using for the league, where can I manage my roster to select my keepers, etc. Thanks again and apologize for the Qs.
128Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 09:24
Draft order is set on Kafenatid. Battles I will send you my ID and Password so you can start the draft and input our first 5 keepers tomorrow morning.

We will be using the ESPN league we set up previously to run the fantasy league.

We need to send our first five keepers to Battles email address by tomorrow morning at 10AM. Draft will offically begin at High Noon tomorrow.
129leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 09:28
I now have an issue:

I was just told that I am being sent on a business trip tomorrow...all day. I should be home around 9 pm est, but I will have no interent access throughout the day. Since we don't know anyone's keepers, I will also not be able to put together a queue.

Do this mean that the real draft can't start until tomorrow night? I will send my 8 keepers to Battles today.
130Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 09:46
The draft will start at the same time. Just make your pick at your earliest convenvience. Hopefully we will knock out most of the picks over the weekend.

Maybe we could organize an hour or two when we are all sitting in front of the computer.
131Promize-In-Phoenix
      ID: 7741818
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:24
Ok gang in a couple hours I will be making my journey back home to Georgia.

I actually thought I was gonna send my keepers in today till this piece of junk computer locked up and lost all my research on my players. Actually I know all my offense players and pretty sure I know the defense now as well.. So I should be able to wake up early tommorow and send them. Unless I remember tonight at around midnight when I get home.
132BoNkA
      ID: 39739239
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:39
Should we post our keepers here today or email them to somebody? I've been busy with the RIFC draft among other things and have forgotten to check in here the past 2 days.
133 Battles
      ID: 5742229
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:45
Alright, it looks like the first day of drafting might be a little slow due to work situations, even mine. I'll be traveling tomorrow from Austin to Baton Rouge, but I'll have internet access. I'm not actually drving so I should be able to sneak away from business talk long enough to input some keepers.

!!!! The earlier you get your 5 keepers in the better off I'd be. If you could post them tonight or before 8am cdt on wed it would help!!!!

This isn't mandatory, but like I said would help. It is mandatory that you have them in before 10am cdt wed.

You can either post your keepers here or email them to me.

If anyone has any pre-draft questions please get them answered today.

134BoNkA
      ID: 147122310
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:12
5 keepers:

Michael Vick, QB, ATL
Shaun Alexander, RB, SEA
Tiki Barber, RB, NYG
Ed Reed, DB, BAL
James Farrior, LB, PIT
135marshall
      ID: 347152313
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:17
my first 5 keepers:

Urlacher - Chicago
Witherspoon -Carolina
Vilma -NYJ
K. Jones - Detroit
J. Jones - Dallas

Are first 3 draft picks will be keepers..correct?
136Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:22
5 Keepers:

Dillon
Portis
Ray Lewis
Julian Peterson
Derrick Brooks
137Battles
      ID: 5742229
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:22
1st 3 draft picks are keepers off of last year's team.
138leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 11:40
5 keepers:

Marvin Harrison
Rudi Johnson
Keith Bulluck
TO
Kerry Collins

Battles, I am going to email my other 3 keepers so you can make my pcisk for me tomorrow while I'm gone.
139peloton
      ID: 287592310
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:03
Can someone explain why we are only posting 5 keepers instead of 8?
140marshall
      ID: 347152313
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:10
because people may have different keepers according to who others keep...if we did that I would want to be the last to post....
How ya doing tom?
141Battles
      ID: 5742229
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:11
So people can adjust with the last 3 like we did last year.

it's just a way to prevent everyone from constantly changing keepers pre-draft based on who everyone else keeps. If you want to select 8 now then I can put in 8.
142Battles
      ID: 5742229
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:24
Sangre's keepers

LT Moss Peppers Sharper Fletcher
143Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:33
Tomcat do want me to come down to Austin,bring these two pythons with me, and have them do some explaining?

I didnt think so.
144marshall
      ID: 347152313
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:56
I didn't know snakes could talk.
145marshall
      ID: 347152313
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:57
Battles' keepers???
146Battles
      ID: 5742229
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:59
Manning
Ahman
Wayne
M. Boulware
S. Jackson
147leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 13:02
I am just posting my last 3 keepers here, so, Battles has it handy tomorrow:

Curtis Martin
Darren Sharper
Eric Barton
148Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 13:26
Does Curtis Martin still have legs?
149 Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 13:31
marshall - email me?

keepers:
Roy williams
Edge
Gates
Holt
Taylor
150leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 13:33
Pappa, Yes he does, the same legs that ran all over you last season.
151peloton
      ID: 14711214
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 13:37
culpepper
brady
priest
d.edwards
r.harrison

I just thought posting all 8 would save time. I don't really care one way or the other. Brad- if you came down to Austin to visit it would be you first and last time.
152Battles
      ID: 5742229
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 14:06
8 out of 10. still waiting on ian and promize for keepers.
153Pappa
      ID: 235482312
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 14:11
Oh, looks like the first "TE that will only play 15/16 games" has been selected.
154Battles
      ID: 5742229
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 17:49
Please disregard emails you get from kafenatid till tomorrow. I have to alter the time limit to allow the program to skip over ian and promize as I input the picks I have so far.
155Ian-new owner
      ID: 107522020
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 18:10
Keepers:

R Barber
Brooking
C Bailey
D Davis
D McAllister
156Battles
      ID: 5742229
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 18:21
The 5 keeper picks are in kafenatid except for promize who will be returning tonight.

NOTE!!!!
You can change these up until 10am cdt wed morning.
157john
      ID: 467471716
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 19:40
tree, I e-mailed you
158culdeus
      ID: 31630622
      Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 22:04
You've got mine right? Via email.
159Promize
      ID: 107231414
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 04:07
Just got home very tired.. its 4am eastern... confused on this whole keeper thing, thought we had 8 keepers... 5 - O / 3 - D

Just will send my 8 players to Battle and go to bed..
160Pappa
      ID: 25241820
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 05:38
Emailed Battles my final 3 keepers. I am out in the field today but will be be back around 6PM. Hope to make my first nonkeeper pick then.

161Battles
      ID: 147182322
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 08:55
Promize, refer to posts 139-141 on the 5 of 8 keepers.

I'm starting a NEW THREAD, so please go there. This one is too long.
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