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Subject: Survivor 2005 Part 2
Posted by: RBP
- [5859283] Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 07:36
Other thread was getting too long. Continue the discussion and post your rolls here. Thanks |
| 1 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 07:37
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Make sure you read the last few messages on the original thread, it details how to roll them bones.
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| 2 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 07:38
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http://www.irony.com/mailroll.html
Ok here we go. The purpose of the roll is to determine the pecking order that draft positions will be selected. Exact instructions are below, as your roll them bones I'll verify it was done right and post it here. An incorrect roll will not be counted. I'll repeat, an incorrect roll will not count. If you do it right you will get something that looks like this...
"scott.mccoy@andersen.af.mil requested that 2 rolls of a 100-sided die be rolled.
Roll them bones ... your dice are
Roll 1: 27.
Roll 2: 69.
Mail was sent to you at scott.mccoy@andersen.af.mil."
Roll #1 is your number. Roll #2 is the tiebreaker. The higher the number the better, 100 is the highest and 1 is the lowest. I copyed and pasted the page and posted your answer to each question below. You can request that someone else roll for you because it is impossible to cheat. If you would like someone to roll for you just post your email here and send the roll to me and you and it will be official.
Describe this roll:
How many dice would you like to roll? 1
How many sides are on each die? 100
Should anything be added or subtracted from the total roll? No
You can drop either the highest or lowest die roll (or both.) Don't drop anything
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The entire roll can be repeated; how many times? 2
Mailing Information:
The subject of the mail note: (Example) HHH, RBP, STB whatever your name is.
Say what this roll is for: Survivor
Enter this correctly or your roll will get lost!
Type in your e-mail address: your email@whatever.com
Optional:
Also e-mail the results to: scott.mccoy@andersen.af.mil
To roll the dice, press: Roll Them Bones
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| 3 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 07:45
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Shak will verify when he check his mail but my roll is (75).........
scott.mccoy@andersen.af.mil requested that 2 rolls of a 100-sided die be rolled.
Roll them bones ... your dice are
Roll 1: 75.
Roll 2: 54.
Mail was sent to you at scott.mccoy@andersen.af.mil and to shakj@yahoo.com
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| 4 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 08:11
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Edneck rolled and it was:
Roll 1: 93
Roll 2: 22
You said Higher was better, I guess I will pick my position pretty early then?
Great Stuff!!!
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| 5 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 08:23
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93 for Ed is confirmed.
1) 93 Edneck
2) 75 RBP
And for the last time just to make sure you understand this roll is to determine the order for draft positions. If Edneck's 93 holds up he'll have first choice for draft position. He may decide to pick 5th, 10th, 12th, 1st whatever he wants. Then down to the next highest roll all the way down to 18. Then the order reverses for league #2 and Ed will be last to pick.
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| 6 | Joe
ID: 4652283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 08:24
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84......not to shabby
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| 7 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 08:25
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Joe is confirmed at 84 and 37.
1) 93 Edneck
2) 84 Joe
3) 75 RBP
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| 8 | SupaMario
ID: 4652283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 08:28
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7 and 86. Wow! What a great roll!! Beginner's luck I guess. LOL
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| 9 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 08:34
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Hey Supa, at least you know your a early pick in the second draft.
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| 10 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 08:38
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Scotty what's your PayPal Email address to send the nmoney too? You may have said, I missed it!!!
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| 11 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 08:41
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It will be scott.mccoy@andersen.af.mil but I haven't logged into it in a year. let me make sure it works first.
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| 12 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 08:43
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SupaMario is confirmed at 7 and 86.
1) 93 Edneck
2) 84 Joe
3) 75 RBP
4) 7 SupaMario
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| 13 | Shak
ID: 165532722
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 09:26
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Are we still looking at a 1 Aug draft start date?
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| 14 | Shak
ID: 165532722
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 09:29
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I confirm Scotty's 75 and I rolled a 74.
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| 15 | GCobb
ID: 85422823
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 11:09
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Roll 1: 29
Roll 2: 69
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| 16 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 11:23
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Sent it off to Scotty, but here was my roll.
Roll them bones ... your dice are
Roll 1: 79.
Roll 2: 33.
Not too bad, but I have seen quite a few 100's before in this roll game. Middle of the pack is fine with me.
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| 17 | JHarmon
ID: 05592910
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 11:32
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harmonj@gmail.com requested that 2 rolls of a 100-sided die be rolled.
Roll them bones ... your dice are
Roll 1: 26.
Roll 2: 61.
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| 18 | Tribe
Donor
ID: 56840617
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 11:44
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I rolled a 53!!
fryt@btopenworld.com requested that 2 rolls of a 100-sided die be rolled.
Roll them bones ... your dice are
Roll 1: 53.
Roll 2: 87.
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| 19 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 11:48
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Rolls so far:
1) 93 Edneck
2) 84 Joe
3) 79 Clyde
4) 75 RBP
5) 74 Shak
6) 29 Cobb
7) 26 Harmon
8) 7 SupaMario
Who gets that 100 or 99?
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| 20 | TB
ID: 5809511
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 12:20
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I will have to roll from my house tonight. Big brother won't let me get to that site from work.
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| 21 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 12:23
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TB, I'll roll for you If want. Just need your email address. No way to cheat...your call if want to wait.
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| 22 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 12:28
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Roll 1 - 2
Roll 2 - 91
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| 23 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 12:34
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1) 93 Edneck
2) 84 Joe
3) 79 Clyde
4) 75 RBP
5) 74 Shak
6) 53 Tribe
7) 29 Cobb
8) 26 Harmon
9) 7 SupaMario
10) 2 FNA
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| 24 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 12:43
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Who's the SOB to knock Biged down a Peg...Probably Trashman, cuz he's my arch enemy, Sort of like Spiderman and the GreenGoblin!!! Lucky mother!!! I'll tell you right now If I win top slot, it won't be higher then #10
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| 25 | Green Goblin
ID: 4652283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 13:05
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You will not prevail
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| 26 | Spiderman
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 13:48
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My spidersenses feel a 99 coming soon.....
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| 27 | Green Goblin
ID: 4652283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 13:51
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Spiderman is dead...whos post is this anyway, I think I will adopt it for my own evil deeds
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| 28 | Spiderman
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 14:04
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SuperMArio I can tell by your ID# your the GreenGoblin.....You just made the list Son!!!!
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| 29 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 14:15
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What's the odds of eight people rolling a 1 and the tie break being under 91.
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| 30 | TB
ID: 5809511
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 14:17
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Hey Ed, that would be great. That way I can either get a great roll from your luck or blame my crappy draft position on you.
tbraiders@gmail.com is my email addy.
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| 31 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 14:23
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Come on Ed.. Roll a 1 or a 2 for TB
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| 32 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 14:25
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6336 to 1 Not as bad as odds to win the LOTO but sucks none the less.
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| 33 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 14:28
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TB I rolled and if I remember right
Roll 1: 56
Roll 2 83
Yeee Ha!!!!
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| 34 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 14:30
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FNAS at least you get first pick in the second draft if I read it right
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| 35 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 14:31
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Good call Ed.. I was just reading that on the other thread. OK now there will be 7 ones rolled.
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| 36 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 14:33
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1) 93 Edneck
2) 84 Joe
3) 79 Clyde
4) 75 RBP
5) 74 Shak
6) 56 TB
7) 53 Tribe
8) 29 Cobb
9) 26 Harmon
11) 7 SupaMario
12) 2 FNAS
I believe that's correct....
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| 37 | GCobb
ID: 387201918
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 17:11
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Looks like things are rolling along nicely.
I don't think Ed has enough material to entertain us until August...any thought to kicking this thing off a little earlier?
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| 38 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 17:18
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That wont happen as Clyde will need to buy 6 Fantasy magazines and get help from 16 Web sites to just MAKE HIS FIRST SELECTION!!!! Plus the Army guys are probably out in the woods learning how to follow detailed intructions on how to wipe their A$$'s without toiletpapper. Plus people are afraid of training camp injuries....I'll start now I'm not bothered!!!!
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| 39 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 17:54
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I think the odds of a stud getting hurt in preseason are dwarfed by the odds of being arrested, shot, or failing a drug test.
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| 40 | GCobb
ID: 387201918
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 18:53
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Ed -- I figure they'll want to wait and see if Ricky can get back to his playing weight before making that top 5 selection.
Chuck -- True. The odds of being busted on a drug test have gone way up now that the NFL knows of the whizzenator...no telling how many other clowns had that "tool" in their plans.
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| 41 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 18:58
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True, Most of last year we had to do without a player at some point during last year's Survivor,
Drafting early is a risk, but someone will lose anyway because of unseen circumstances during the season....I say lets get this over with, because most of have baseball and two or three football leagues we are either running or playing in.
Does anyone need time or have other issues that would stop you drafting for the next month? We already know about you Clyde...any real problems besides I need to study for two weeks and make lists!!!
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| 42 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 19:04
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I'm in... I won't be available unitl Fri morning but I can roll after that.
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| 43 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 19:04
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Hey, you get the munchies smoking all that Weed. J. Lewis just got out of jail, imagine the amount of drugs supplied at that welcome home party!!
I'm not pushing people to go now, just suggesting as is Cobb, that it doesn't really mater.
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| 44 | GCobb
ID: 387201918
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 19:06
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I'll be gone through the 4th...anytime after that is cool for me.
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| 45 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 19:08
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Do like we did in my baseball league, start now and do away with the time limit until 1 Aug...make a pick as you wish or until you feel your getting abused for taking so long....No foul if it takes you a few days...from experience most people will make a pick in decent enough time.
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| 46 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 19:15
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Uh, just woke up, pouring through lots of emails. Draft will start August 1, hold yer horses fellas.
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| 47 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 19:26
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Shak confirmed. Cobb confirmed. Skiba confirmed. Harmon confirmed. Travis 2nd rolled confirmed goo at 53 and 87. FNAS is confirmed. HHH is confirmed at 6 and 26. TB confirmed at 56 and 83.
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| 48 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 19:31
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1) 93 Edneck
2) 84 Joe
3) 79 Clyde
4) 75 RBP
5) 74 Shak
6) 56 TB
7) 53 Tribe
8) 29 Cobb
9) 26 Harmon
10) 7 SupaMario
11) 6 HHH
12) 2 FNAS
Now as soon as we get all 18 rolls we can select a date to pick draft slots in draft #1 and then go to league #2.
Waiting for LR, 2Cool, STB (who I'll roll for) and Buddy off of the top of my head.
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| 49 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 19:33
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timothy.dahl@elmendorf.af.mil requested that 2 rolls of a 100-sided die be rolled.
Roll them bones ... your dice are
Roll 1: 45.
Roll 2: 43.
Mail was sent to you at timothy.dahl@elmendorf.af.mil and to scott.mccoy@andersen.af.mil.
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| 50 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 19:34
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1) 93 Edneck
2) 84 Joe
3) 79 Clyde
4) 75 RBP
5) 74 Shak
6) 56 TB
7) 53 Tribe
8) 45 STB
9) 29 Cobb
10) 26 Harmon
11) 7 SupaMario
12) 6 HHH
13) 2 FNAS
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| 51 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 19:46
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Waiting on ........
LR (England)
2Cool (England)
Trashman (England)
Grim Reaper (Vegas)
Sanders (I forget? Germany?)
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| 52 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 00:42
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I think the 93 and the 2 will hold up. I doubt Ed picks #1 (long wait to pick again (34 players go off the board) and I know I could not refrain from picking 1 and taking LT. I'll be happy though as I look back at the 2004 draft and feel comfortable in the 6-12 range in both. HHH picked 18th last season and I bet he doesn't do that again.
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| 53 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 00:44
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Another thing I dislike is when the QB run starts right after you pick and you know you won't pick for 26 picks. The fear of only having 1 QB will cause owners to pull the trigger earlier than they normally would.
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| 54 | GCobb
ID: 85422823
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 01:11
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If you have the choice I think you have to take the #1 and go with LT. Having back-to-back picks is a luxury as well.
Knowing when the run will start is really the key to this whole thing. I guessed on the QB run and missed last year--wasn't competitive from the outset...it's painful watching the train wreck coming and being powerless to do anything about it.
And even worse, having to hear about it from the likes of Ajaye...where is he anyway?
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| 55 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 01:41
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I read along time ago that it's much better to start a run on a position than to end it and I totally agree.
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| 56 | Joe
ID: 4652283
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 03:18
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AJAYE was transferred from Pristina to Bondsteel Kosovo to polish up his skillz in the FF game. OR he was transferred for disciplinary reasons because our CO commander was abusing her prescription medication, you decide which one is true. Sanders could figure it out I’m sure, if he ever shows up and rolls dem bones.
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| 57 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 03:25
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AJAYE is from Ohio so he always gets the benefit of the doubt with me.
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| 58 | Joe
ID: 4652283
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 03:27
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Miami Ohio.......? Wait a second!
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| 59 | SupaMario
ID: 26551307
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 04:18
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What!!?? I am not the Green Goblin, this computer must have been unlocked if it is the same id #; This is a work computer, damn Czechs.
SM
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| 60 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 07:37
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I doubt I'l be picking first someone will roll higher. IF I do, I just can't decide on a position. IT will be either 1-3 or 6-8. Getting the stud RB is important, but like I said it's a RB deep draft and is LT, Holmes, Alexander worth getting or do you drop and hope for the Jones brothers or a top notch WR or QB. I do like me some back-to-back action, it gives you a little freedom, just not sure about waiting 36 picks for my next two. The least amount someone has to wait for a pick is #9, which is 18 picks between selections...That could make a difference in the long run...I just don't think I can afford to pick #9 and then pick probably 14-17 in the next draft because I get last shot.
Hey It will be fun no matter what!! Supa is the Greengoblin!!!
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| 61 | Shak
ID: 5762417
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 08:25
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HHH picked 17th last year. I picked 18th and lucked my way into the final week. I was lucky that Corey Dillon and Dominick Davis were still available. I could have also had T.O. Luckily, I backed off T.O., as his late season injury would have doomed me. Point being that there are still quality players at 18 and you can generally count on having two good players rather than one great and one mediocre if you were picking at the top.
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| 62 | Lost Reality
ID: 596919
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 10:10
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Roll them bones ...Lost Reality your dice are
Roll 1: 84.
Roll 2: 34
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| 63 | Joe
ID: 4652283
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 10:39
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Still in second thanks to my 37 second roll
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| 64 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 12:33
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AJaye being from Ohio explains a lot. Kentucky women may be proud of that one tooth, but Most of Ohio men are like M. Clarett, slow, overrated and dumb as a rock!!!
Can I trade my pick for someone else's?
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| 65 | Joe
ID: 43771512
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 13:32
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wanna trade with mine ;)
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| 66 | Joe
ID: 43771512
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 13:36
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You see Edneck.....your pick is easy just do what Ajaye would do and pick the obvious LT. Mine on the other hand....as of now I have three or four different RB's to choose from all just as good as the other one and will be scrutinized for whoever I pick. I would rather be 6-10th pick then second as I am now. Then I could pick westbrook and not be the laughing stock of this forum.
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| 67 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 14:12
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A little help in understanding the draft please... First,, Happy 4th to all especially those deployed!
Let me see if I have this right. The draft order is not set by the numbers we chose. Since BigEd, so far, has the highest number, he can pick which position he wants?? OK, so far I have the worst number and am going to get what ever is left 1-18. Now here's where I'm a little foggy. The second draft? If I end up with the lowest number, do I get to pick where I draft in the 2nd draft or do I just go to the oposite end of the 1-18. Example, if I'm 16 in the 1st, I would be 3rd in the second????
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| 68 | GCobb
ID: 16631113
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 14:31
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I believe it works the same as the first draft in that you'll get to pick your spot.
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| 69 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 14:47
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Terrell Owens, WR PHI
News: According to WPVI, a TV station in Philadelphia, Terrell Owens' name has been linked to a trade between the Eagles and Raiders. Oakland would give Philadelphia Jerry Porter in exchange for T.O.
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| 70 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 15:41
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Huge news for me and most Porter holders in keeper leagues. Imagine what Porter could do with a decent QB!! If I can just get Henry to a team he will be the featured back and Barlow can come out of his funk of last year, the dynasty contract league is mine!!
I am not worried about this league, it is just something to fill the time...yeah right. BTW Ed, I already HAVE my books and have been studying!! I hear this guy Case is pretty good!!
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| 71 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 15:52
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Not quite sure about Porter. I think some WRs are better number 2s than number 1s. Price is a perfect example. I would be surprised if this trade went through. Moss and Owens??? I think they would end up killing each other or planting whizinators in each others luggage.
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| 72 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 15:55
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Stoney? The best!! CAn you imagine the ego's with Moss and Owens in the huddle....scary for a QB. Mike some people need help and some of us have it already memorized.....nothing wrong with needing some help.
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| 73 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 15:56
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Stoney? The best!! CAn you imagine the ego's with Moss and Owens in the huddle....scary for a QB. Mike some people need help and some of us have it already memorized.....nothing wrong with needing some help.
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| 74 | Shak
ID: 5762417
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 16:03
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TO and Moss -- which one do you double cover? I think if you had to pick, you'd have to double cover Moss. He has more speed and is absolutely lethal on the deep balls. Can you imagine if they were on the same team and TO starts seeing a lot more passes than Moss? I don't see how the Raiders can pull this trade even though Moss for Porter sounds like a steal.
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| 75 | Shak
ID: 5762417
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 16:07
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btw FNAS, GCobb is right in that if you have the last choice in the first draft (lowest number rolled), you will have your choice of draft positions in the 2nd draft. Question is, do you want a similar draft position in both leagues or completely opposite. Will you try to draft the same players (especially sleepers) or do you want no common players?
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| 76 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 16:08
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I can't imagine who would be the bigger idiot in the huddle. It is a shame these two are so talented that they think that they can just do what they want at anytime. I do have a solution though. Have Miami trade Oakland R. Williams and he can use his "healing" powers that he learned in guru school to help keep the calm. Although there would be a serious run on Cheetos on the sidelines!!
Help?? Me?? NEVER, even if I need it. I have room to talk, you don't. At least here anyway. I drafted an all around solid team last year and just had a few go off and was pretty lucky with injuries.
Draft position is going to be crucial. So do you take 1-3 and put all of your eggs in one basket? Or do you take 7-10 and try to draft a decent side on both drafts?? Decisions, decisions. Nice twist on things Scotty, you made it that much more difficult to prepare for this thing!!
Ed, first off the rock!!
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| 77 | Shak
ID: 5762417
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 18:23
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I guess now would be a good time to give my bio. Originally from Hawaii, I now live in beautiful Sierra Vista, Arizona, where I work for Northrop Grumman. I'm a big fan of the University of Arizona, especially the basketball and girls softball teams (can you say Jennie Finch!). My hobbies are my family and sports (not necessarily always in that order). Four school aged kids keep me pretty busy. My two biggest kicks, aside from ffl, are playing golf and poker and, luckily, I can do both year round in Arizona.
I retired last year from the Force after 22 years as a linguist. I served at Osan, DM, Clark, Hurlburt, and Kadena twice. Needless to say, my favorite tour was Clark -- shortest two years of my life! It was at Kadena that I met Scotty, Tim, and Kris (Grim Reaper).
I have been playing ffl for quite a few years. I can still remember my first year, when my first pick was Red Grange. Boy, was he tough! I used to play in as many as nine ffls each season, but have had to cut back to four or five. I will only play in money leagues now. My favorite ones are this one, the contract league (with Scott and Clyde), and the keeper leagues on Antsports.
If anyone is ever in my area, please look me up.
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| 78 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 19:01
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Mike, lets say I get the first pick for position in the first draft. I select position #6. I still get the last choice in the second draft...say the only thing left is slot #17. Your making it sound like if I select position #18 in the first draft I automatically get position #1 in the second draft..doesn't work that way. At least that's the way your making it sound?
That T.O. trade will never happen..not possible to make each ego happy. Plus where do they get the cash to pay those contracts? Mike I was glad you won last year, I've never seen you win anything, so I was rooting for you...we bash on each other, but you know I still think your a Cool guy no matter how heated it gets....
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| 79 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 19:14
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I did finsh in fourth last year from position #13, so it's not like I left early, I had a chance to win it all with a little luck. beleive me luck plays a major factor in this league..I can name at least five other teams that were better then me, you and Shak last year..You can tell the ones that finish high in every league and most of all the competitions..In all my leagues you see the same faces every year at the top or in the playoffs...Tribe, RBP, Trashman, HHH, GCobb, Shak and I would like to include myself...You see those same faces for a reason....Your making a push to get your face in that crowd...I may be talking nonsense, but we all know its very true...If I left you out it's either because you stink, or I havn't played with you yet!!!
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| 80 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 20:15
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The two drafts are independant of each other. I know it may sound confusing, but I'll try again.
Draft #1
We have two draft orders for draft #1. We roll bones to determine who gets to pick "Draft slots" first (highest to lowest). Meaning if Ed's 93 holds up he can pick any position he wants from 1-18. After he picks the guy with the second highest roll picks his draft position and so forth and so on down to FNAS who gets the scraps. This concludes this process for now.
Draft #2
We have two draft orders for draft #2. We roll bones to determine who gets to pick "Draft slots" first (lowest to highest). Meaning if FNAS's 2 holds up he can pick any position he wants from 1-18. After he picks the guy with the second lowest roll picks his draft position and so forth and so on down to Edneck who gets the scraps. This concludes this process for now.
Once both orders are set then we will start both drafts on August 10th. Yes it will keep you busy for 10-14 days but we seem to have a very active group as usual. The problem we run into is guys all over the world, so send a short list to someone you trust when you go to bed. We'll discuss that more later.
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| 81 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 20:18
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TrashHaulers for Survivor
gerhardt@ntlworld.com requested that 2 rolls of a 100-sided die be rolled.
Roll them bones ... your dice are
Roll 1: 39.
Roll 2: 9.
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| 82 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 20:18
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Lost Reality
scott.mccoy@andersen.af.mil requested that 2 rolls of a 100-sided die be rolled.
Roll them bones ... your dice are
Roll 1: 84.
Roll 2: 34.
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| 83 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 20:20
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Shak,,
I've been pretty successful in FFL. The one thing that does that for me is to never have a set plan. Do as much research as you can, never listen to the magazines and trust your own research. I know you questions are rhetorical but they are good ones. That's what makes the draft fun. With a little luck, I would like to think that I can win from either end of the draft. I think the best phrase I've seen was from an earlier post, its always better to start the run. What better place to do that than at 18? You have more aggressive and have to take more chances. I can't wait!!
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| 84 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 20:23
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1) 93 Edneck
2) 84 Joe (37 roll #2)
3) 84 Lost Reality (34 roll #2)
4) 79 Clyde
5) 75 RBP
6) 74 Shak
7) 56 TB
8) 53 Tribe
9) 45 STB
10) 39 TrashHaulers
11) 29 Cobb
12) 26 Harmon
13) 7 SupaMario
14) 6 HHH
15) 2 FNAS
Waiting on Reaper, Sanders and 2Cool.
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| 85 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 20:38
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Chuck you will not end up with 18 IMO. Somebody will take that slot before it gets to you. I do however think you'll be in the 14-17 range without a doubt. Now when you get to pick first teh tables are turned and you can get the premium spot, whatever you may determine that to be (1? 5? 9? 12?).
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| 86 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 21:07
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RBP,,
No worries. I'm pretty sure I know where I'll be for the second draft. I'm looking forward to drafting with owners that know what they are doing.. Grip it and rip it....
Can you believe the other league?? I just don't understand. I couldn't prove my point any more clearer. Stevie Wonder could see the truth behind what I was saying.
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| 87 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 21:08
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RBP,,
I have no idea how they think it is going to effect their keepers. hell I'm the one that has to decide to keep Holmes or not.
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| 88 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 21:31
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I totally agree. The scoring is flawed imo and either they (some) don't care to make it better or they (few) can't figure it out. You spelled it out, I get what your saying and I think in the end changes will be made but not to the degree that you or I would like to see. We'll see what happens.
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| 89 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Fri, Jul 01, 2005, 22:29
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RBP,
I think they just don't get it... Maybe its too many points for them to add up.
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| 90 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sat, Jul 02, 2005, 00:56
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Thanks for rolling da bones for me, Ed. That is a good spot, not too early or late. I know what you mean about them Kentucky "folk" too. You know, if the toothbrush was invented in a any other state than Kentucky, it would have been called the teethbrush.
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| 91 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Sat, Jul 02, 2005, 02:42
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Ed, I wasn't saying it was a guarantee you would be picking 18th in the second draft, but the probability is there. I can't imagine you getting s slot above 16 though, if that is the case then there were some oddball choices made in front of you.
Research in this league is different than in a regular FFL. In this league you have to first look at the player and his abilities and then look how durable he is. If you are in the #4 spot, do you take Holmes who has a huge payout when he isn't injured or do you take A. Green who will play all season but won't have nearly the points. I almost tend to believe that safer is the way to go here. You don't need to be the highest scoring team each week, just not the lowest. Seems easier than it is. There were a great many games last year decided on Monday night between 4-5 teams.
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| 92 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Sat, Jul 02, 2005, 02:50
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In no other league I play in is durability more important that this one. Bye weeks in other leagues matter, but only slightly, in Survivor they are HUGE!
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| 93 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Sat, Jul 02, 2005, 06:57
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That's the beauty of this format. You just can't read a Magazine or web site and pick the next best player(s) on a list you have to factor in, Durability, Bye weeks, Consistency ( a guy like say Porter or Chambers who are up and down all year long may not be as good as WR's ranked way below them who get you 50-60 yards most every week). This format is great because you have to have a gameplan going into the draft...If you don't I can guarantee you will struggle. I definetely learned from last year..Gambling on rookies to give you points early in the season is a bad plan in this format. I have to admit I enjoyed this more then any FFL I have played before in the past....Great concept by Scotty and Whomever!!!!
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| 94 | TrashHaulers
Sustainer
ID: 5704895
Sat, Jul 02, 2005, 07:24
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I just emailed 2Cool to roll da bones.
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| 95 | 2Cool
ID: 176027
Sat, Jul 02, 2005, 08:00
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Roll 1: 66
Roll 2: 29
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| 96 | TrashHaulers
Sustainer
ID: 5704895
Sat, Jul 02, 2005, 09:05
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1) 93 Edneck
2) 84 Joe (37 roll #2)
3) 84 Lost Reality (34 roll #2)
4) 79 Clyde
5) 75 RBP
6) 74 Shak
7) 66 2 Cool
8) 56 TB
9) 53 Tribe
10) 45 STB
11) 39 TrashHaulers
12) 29 Cobb
13) 26 Harmon
14) 7 SupaMario
15) 6 HHH
16) 2 FNAS
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| 97 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Sun, Jul 03, 2005, 08:23
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Anyone know where Sanders and GrimR are? Must be having a big 4th July weekend....Enjoy..Just want to pick a position and get it over...not sure why we are waiting till 10 Aug...I guess Scotty needs the time or people are away until then?
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| 98 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Sun, Jul 03, 2005, 10:53
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I said August 1. I have no idea what the email addresses are for Sanders and Reaper. It's the weekend, I'm relaxing, if they roll they roll.
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| 99 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Sun, Jul 03, 2005, 11:58
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I hear that. Let's not get our knickers in a twist over trying to start this thing. If you really need to get your fix in, try holding or participating in a mock draft. We still have plenty of time. Good luck Scotty holding off this bunch until the first, I tried in baseball and lost.
It is a close one in baseball, at least you aren't winning going into Sunday's games and lose, even though I am up less than one point, I am still winning. Two starts left to your one. I have Clemens and Burhle. I hope the bullpen can hold up for the Rocket this time. He is getting royally screwed this year for wins!!
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| 100 | TrashHaulers
Sustainer
ID: 5704895
Sun, Jul 03, 2005, 12:00
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RBP, in post 80 you stated 10 Aug. Is it 1 or 10 Aug... just clarifying. thx.
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| 101 | TrashHaulers
Sustainer
ID: 5704895
Sun, Jul 03, 2005, 12:01
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Clyde, we gonna run the Pain Game again? I know we had some issues, but I say we do it again.
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| 102 | TrashHaulers
Sustainer
ID: 5704895
Sun, Jul 03, 2005, 12:08
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Just to catch up on some previous posts:
I vote for option # 1, Scottie's payout system.
To introduce myself, I'm Buddy Gerhardt, 12 years in the USAF, been stationed at Dyess, TX on C-130's and Mildenhall, England on KC-135's, C-130's, and H-53's. Headed to Little Rock (back to the Herks!) in August.
I'm a fantasy nut, having played baseball, football, hockey, hoops, and Nascar. I know about 8 of our owners, and have played FF or baseball with a handful of the others. Looks to be a fun year.
FYI, I'll leave Mildenhall on 30 July, and arrive Little Rock the end of August. I'll be on leave in between, but should be near a computer. I'l send lists or be on-line, no worries.
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| 103 | TrashHaulers
Sustainer
ID: 5704895
Sun, Jul 03, 2005, 12:17
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I just e-mailed Reaper and Sanders to roll the bones. Hopefully I got the right 2 guys and right 2 addy's.
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| 105 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Sun, Jul 03, 2005, 12:28
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Ah, Ed, nice to see you so peaceful again!! If the draft were to start, I would have to do something!! The reason I wanted the draft to wait last time was that I was in the middle of PCS'ing back here, so I needed that time to get my affairs in order to be at peace at the draft!! That worked?!?! NOT!!
I won't be playing the Pain Game this year. I have too many leagues already and I will be in the desert for most of FF season, so playing in leagues is going to be tough for me this year. R. Jeffcoat is supposed to be down there with me at the same time, so he maybe able to hook us up. I just won't have time to commish a league, play in 3 others and baseball. Feel free to take over though.
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| 107 | Grim Reaper
ID: 75552821
Sun, Jul 03, 2005, 13:07
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Folks,
For some reason, I'm not getting any of messages about the league. I'm glad I checked back and noticed we are already in progress. Please add me to your address books krenzkekk@yahoo.com
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| 108 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Sun, Jul 03, 2005, 16:28
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GR, I don't believe we have been contacting each other by e-mail, but I am sure Scotty will add you to the list if you aren't already on there.
Oh, Ed this is going to be a wing-ding of a season isn't it? You are already shooting off your mouth and we haven't even determined draft order yet!! You won't scare off most of us with your garbage spewing, but you might intimidate a few. Your tough talk doesn't cut it with most. We all know you are just a pussycat hiding behind the monitor in your computer room with posters of Samantha Fox and Rollie Fingers and Earl Cambell. Fantasy magazines spread everywhere. Cheat sheets scribbled on tacked to the wall. Your printer constantly printing the latest updates from 100 different websites you subscribe to so you can figure out who to draft or start. We all know it is true.
Ed, first off the rock!!
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| 109 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Sun, Jul 03, 2005, 20:32
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Post 80 says "Once both orders are set then we will start both drafts on August 10th. Yes it will keep you busy for 10-14 days but we seem to have a very active group as usual. The problem we run into is guys all over the world, so send a short list to someone you trust when you go to bed. We'll discuss that more later."
So your all right the 10th it is. I wanted to get started eralier this season to make sure it wasn't mass confusion at the last minute.
Ed said, "I wasn't asking you to get off you fat A$$ and do anything, I was asking If you knew their addresses. Stop checking the F,ing site if you don't want to be disturbed until 1 Aug!!!!!!!" Is this message for me? Just cuurious.
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| 110 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Sun, Jul 03, 2005, 21:10
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Just curious...
Why start on a Wednesday? I bring this up because Shaw's firewall will not let me in. If it started on the weekend, I would stay awake until it was done if everyone else did.
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| 111 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 01:42
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Chuck I meant August first but I typed August 10th.
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| 112 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 01:58
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Hey guys bare with me, I'm prepping to pack out for the next two days and I'm swamped. As soon as things settle down on my end I'll re-engage hard and heavy to get things rolling. If CPSanders and Reaper roll we can start the intial draft position draft. Will take a few days to sort those out. Thanks
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| 113 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 02:39
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FNAS, try sending the link directly to this webpage to your e-mail and see if Big Brother will let you in that way. We had the same problem just typing in rotoguru, but by cut and pasting the direct link we are able to bypass BB. One of the few things I have managed to get past BB. It is only a matter of time before they catch on to this one.
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| 114 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 03:07
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RotoGuru Big brother link
That is what I have to use from work. Email the link to your work address and give it a try.
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| 115 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 03:56
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Same for me, if I copy and paste the link in it works but if I go through rotoguru.com it blocks me. I think Chuck was already using the link I sent him so not sure if he can use the work around for work. I also bypass big brother at work to access an Ohio State Football forum, if I use a shortcut to the forum it let's me in but if I try to access it from the OSU homepage it won't let me. Wierd.
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| 116 | Tribe
Donor
ID: 56840617
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 04:14
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If you also type in www.rotoguru2.com it should work. That is what we have to do at Mildenhall.
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| 117 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 04:16
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Someone explained it in the computer forum. Websense blocks sites by their name or description, so http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/view.pl is blocked, but http://66.221.169.119/cgi-bin/view.pl isn't even though it is the "same" address.
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| 118 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 06:35
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I'm not sure what every base is doing but here at Shaw, they actually have web nazis that read a list of all the sites that people go to. I've been called twice about sites a couple of my guys have gone to that they didn't think was work related. Sportsline was one and I can't remember the other. I know when I was overseas they wasn't that strict about it. Hey what the hell, its their computer I guess they can do what ever they want.
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| 119 | Superclydes
ID: 63402814
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 08:19
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WOW a monitored Big Brother?!?! That sounds like some computer wienies without a job!! Well if you get hassled about going there, just explain that there is a DOUBLE draft taking place and your strict attention is needed:o)
If you are getting blocked or called out, we will have to try and set it up on e-mail. Whomever picks in front and behind you might be able to paste the entire draft to you so you can get a heads up. If they are unwilling or forget to, we will have a mass e-mail going out to let people know it is their turn, just respond and someone will cut and paste it for you. No worries, we will figure something out.
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| 120 | Edneck
ID: 115222815
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 10:03
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I was the LAN Manager at GK and there is a number of way's and programs to monitor or block sites. They can use the Firewall or System Routers to block anything they feel is deemed a No go site!! I would get a list of the top 50 sites visited on a monthly basis, My Boss would say weather to block a site or not..The rules say Government Computer can only be used for Official reason's only...blah blah!! The good LAN guys will block both URL and IP addresses. So it just depends on how servere your LAN guys are, I havn't been around for 5 years but I'm sure Ramstein govern's the Whole of Europe and set's down what procedures they want implemented as far as blocking sites. No sure in the States.
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| 121 | FNAS
ID: 475182816
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 10:21
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I don't see a need for emails. Man I get about 75 a day as it is.. If we could start Sunday, Who's ever time zone, we can knock out the first couple rounds in a hurry. During the week, I don't see a problem staying within 12 the 12 hour rule.
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| 124 | RBP
ID: 175571322
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 19:03
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Grim Reaper Survivor
krenzkekk@yahoo.com requested that 2 rolls of a 100-sided die be rolled.
Roll them bones ... your dice are
Roll 1: 49.
Roll 2: 10.
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| 125 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 19:46
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1) 93 Edneck
2) 84 Joe (37 roll #2)
3) 84 Lost Reality (34 roll #2)
4) 79 Clyde
5) 75 RBP
6) 74 Shak
7) 66 2 Cool
8) 56 TB
9) 53 Tribe
10) 49 Reaper
11) 45 STB
12) 39 TrashHaulers
13) 29 Cobb
14) 26 Harmon
15) 7 SupaMario
16) 6 HHH
17) 2 FNAS
Chief Sanders, where art thou?
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| 126 | JHarmon
ID: 9626419
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 20:26
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Hey! I'm without internet for a while. But I am going to try and get on as much as possible!
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| 127 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 23:29
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craigpsanders@hotmail.com requested that 2 rolls of a 100-sided die be rolled.
Roll them bones ... your dice are
Roll 1: 13.
Roll 2: 24.
Mail was sent to you at craigpsanders@hotmail.com and to scott.mccoy@andersen.af.mil
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| 128 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Mon, Jul 04, 2005, 23:34
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1) 93 Edneck
2) 84 Joe (37 roll #2)
3) 84 Lost Reality (34 roll #2)
4) 79 Clyde
5) 75 RBP
6) 74 Shak
7) 66 2 Cool
8) 56 TB
9) 53 Tribe
10) 49 Reaper
11) 45 STB
12) 39 TrashHaulers
13) 29 Cobb
14) 26 Harmon
15) 13 CPSanders
16) 7 SupaMario
17) 6 HHH
18) 2 FNAS
See next thread.
http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/mb/footst/516.shtml?1120534438
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| 129 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Jul 05, 2005, 21:20
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What is the difference on the two leagues? I know the first one is survivor. Is the 2nd league different?
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| 130 | RBP
ID: 5859283
Tue, Jul 05, 2005, 22:01
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both the same, exactly.
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| 131 | RBP
ID: 175571322
Mon, Jul 11, 2005, 01:36
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You may use the Paypal option to pay me. I'll also pay you if you win in teh same manner. Register at paypal and send me at..........
scott.mccoy@andersen.af.mil
Very easy to use and it's an outstanding tool considering we all literally all over the world.
$40 is the total, 100% of the entry fees go back to the winners, can't beat that.
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| 132 | RBP
ID: 175571322
Mon, Jul 11, 2005, 01:42
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Uh oh, when you send me 40 I actually get $38.54. $1.46 x 18 = $26
So what do we do? Either send me $41.50 or the payouts will be tweaked slightly. I say pay $41.50 to make it easier.
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