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0 Subject: Auction Draft Completed!!!!

Posted by: sarge33rd
- [344362512] Mon, Aug 15, 2005, 10:50

Congratulations guys! For this being something new to us in the avenue of Fantasy Football, it went pretty well up until the tail end when we were all A) pretty tied of it and B) struggling to name someone not already on a roster that was worth putting on your own roster.


At some point in the next 2 or 3 days, I need for each manager to post their team rosters exactly as indicated by my team roster. (which I will post tonight when I get home fom work.)

Once that is done, this weekend I can load the teams nto the espn website, and we should be all set to go.

Once again...congrats to all, and thanks for the help there toward the end. Between our pc crashing and burning and my work hours doubling....I needed the help and you guys graciously handled it.

1sarge33rd
      ID: 344362512
      Mon, Aug 15, 2005, 14:10
User Name/Team Name (as registered at espn. Not every team name appears immediately to correspond to that users name. This will clarify whose team is whose, for everyone. Additionally, it will ensure that I load YOUR team under your teams name and not someone elses squad.)

List Position/Player Name/Price Paid (This will help with the "book-keeping" for trades/Free Agents and Cap relief from early season dropped players.)

$ Remaining. (This will help with the "book-keeping" for trades/Free Agents and Cap relief from early season dropped players.)






************************************************

Sarge33rd/We Suck

QB: D Culpepper $42
RB: B Westbrook $35
RB: M Bennett $13
WR: M Harrison $38
WR: L Fitzgerald $13
RB/WR: T Bell $22
TE: S Alexander $1
K: M Stover $3
D: Dallas $4

BENCH;
1: RB R Droughns $10
2: D Minnesota $1
3: WR T Calcio $8
4: QB K Boller $3
5: RB Mewelde Moore $1
6: K P Edinger $1
7: TE J Kleinsasser $1


$4 remaining


***********************************************
2The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Mon, Aug 15, 2005, 14:25
ronzert/Crazy 88s

QB: B Favre $9
RB: D McCallister $48
RB: C Portis $40
WR: J Horn $26
WR: M Williams $1
RB/WR: C Martin $23
TE: J Witten $6
PK: L Tynes $1
DT: NY Jets $2

Bench
1: QB C Palmer $6
2: QB B Leftwich $6
3: RB M Pittman $1
4: WR K McCardell $1
5: WR P Price $1
6: TE J Stevens $1
7: DT Cincinnati $1

$27 remaining
3THK @ families
      ID: 356432421
      Mon, Aug 15, 2005, 14:41
THK/Negative 20:
QB: Marc Bulger $16
RB: Tiki Barber $35
RB: Dom Davis $31
WR: Chad Johnson $28
: Michael Clayton $22
Flex: Chris Chambers $11
TE: Todd Heap $9
K: Jeff Wilkins $2
D: NE $6

Bench:
QB: Rex Grossman $2
RB: Brandon Jacobs $1
WR: Derrick Mason $3
WR: Antonio Bryant $2
TE: Heath Miller $2
K: John Kasay $1
D: Seattle $3

$6 remaining for FAs

THK
4GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Mon, Aug 15, 2005, 14:57
GoatLocker's Bruisers

QB: Aaron Brooks 10
RB: Ladanian Tomlinson 72
RB: Steven Jackson 29
WR: Darren Bennett 15
WR: Donte Stallworth 5
RB/WR: Carnel Williams 20
TE: Tony Gonzalez 16
K: Nate Kaeding 3
Def: Chicago 1

Bench:
1. QB David Carr 5
2. RB Ronnie Brown 14
3. TE Chris Cooley 2
4. WR Justin McCareins 3
5. PK Ryan Longwell 1
6. Def Indianapolis 3
7. WR Reche Caldwell 1

$0 remaining for FAs

Cliff
5youngroman
      ID: 298482214
      Mon, Aug 15, 2005, 15:00
youngroman/Vienna Luschen

QB: M Vick $19
RB: P Holmes $57
RB: C Brown $10
WR: I Bruce $5
WR: J Smith $10
RB/WR: F Taylor $8
TE: E Johnson $4
K: D Akers $4
D: Carolina $4

BENCH:
1: QB J Plummer $15
2: RB L Johnson $7
3: WR P Burress $6
4: WR A Toomer $3
5: TE J Wiggins $2
6: K J Reed $1
7: D St Louis $2

$43 remaining
6wazaaap_guy
      ID: 1271036
      Mon, Aug 15, 2005, 18:19
WG/Wazaaap Guy

QB: Collins $24
RB: Dillon $35
RB: Jordan $35
WR: Moss $46
WR: Driver $12
RB/WR: Evans $7
TE: Jolley $1
K: Brown $2
D: Pitt $5

Bench:
1: QB Delhomme 3
2: RB Benson 12
3: RB Duckett 7
4: RB Shelton 2
5: WR Kennison 4
6: WR Meshawn Johnson 3
7: TE Troupe 1
7wazaaap_guy
      ID: 1271036
      Mon, Aug 15, 2005, 18:24
and $5 remaining...sorry.
8kev
      Donor
      ID: 043111845
      Mon, Aug 15, 2005, 21:51
Championship HereICome

QB-Pennington 11
RB-Ahman Green 38
RB-Julius Jones 41
WR-Javon Walker 26
WR-Andre Johnson 24
Flex-Lavernous Coles 10
TE-Dallas Clark 5
K- Date Rape Janny 3
D-Baltimore D 9

Bench
1.McNair 6
2.Kevin Faulk 1
3.David Boston 2
4.Keary Colbert 1
5.Marcus Pollard 1
6.Giants D 1
7.Santana Moss 5

Total- 184
9FRICK
      ID: 3410101718
      Mon, Aug 15, 2005, 22:06
Frick - Frickin Idiots

QB- Joey Harrington 1
RB- Shaun Alexander 61
RB- Edgerrin James 49
WR- Antwaan Randle-El 3
WR- Brandon Lloyd 2
Fl- Willis McGahee 47
TE- Ben Watson 1
K- Mike Vanderjagt 2
D- Tampa Bay D 3

Bench
1. Eli Manning 4
2. J.J. Arrington 18
3. David Givens 1
4. Dante Hall 1
5. Ben Hartsock 1
6. Mike Nugent 1
7. Washington D 2

Total- 197
10butthead
      ID: 356381818
      Thu, Aug 18, 2005, 01:37
Sorry sarge had the home comp crash, still got no email till fri. fill in the rest later.....

QB McNabb
B Griese

RB K.Jones
J.Lewis

WR S.Smith
M.Booker

Flex K.Barlow

TE LJ.Smith
B C.Magnum

K O.Mare
B J.Hanson

Def Miami
B Detroit

other bench
WR M.Muhamed(Moose)
RB T.Jones

I got $2 left over who feck knows? thank god it's over!
11THK new home
      ID: 27752210
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 02:09
I need the link to the league again. Thanks
12youngroman
      ID: 298482214
      Sun, Aug 21, 2005, 07:53
League @ ESPN
13sarge33rd
      ID: 344362512
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:54
THK: No team named at the site, has the team name "Negative 20". Which manager are you?
14sarge33rd
      ID: 344362512
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:56
Cliff...WR: Darren Bennett 15

I'm assuming this is supposed to be DREW Bennett?
15sarge33rd
      ID: 344362512
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 13:20
Kev---with only 1 registered owner named Kevin, I'm assuming CedTheSaviour is your team?
16sarge33rd
      ID: 344362512
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 13:46
Still waiting on 4 or 5 of you to enter your team rosters....


I HAVE to have that info gang.
17wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 16:32
Wiggs SuperNovas completed roster

QB T Green 17
RB T Henry 19
RB R Johnson 25
WR D Branch 11
WR A Boldin 15
FLEX D Jackson 17
TE A Crumpler 12
DEF Atl 3
Kicker Viniteri 4

Bench
1 Faulk 7
2 Blaylock 1
3 Porter 10
4. Bettis 10
5 Williamson 5
6 D Staley 9

Remaining money 19
18GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 22:36
Duhhhhh, Drew is right.
Other than that looks good.

Cliff
19sarge33rd
      ID: 344362512
      Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 15:33
wiggs....your roster is lite one player. 9 starters plus 7 bench = 16.
20Young Gunz
      ID: 18742221
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:49
QB Tom Brady 17
RB Lee Suggs 7
RB Stephen Davis 7
WR Torry Holt 33
WR Reggie Wayne 21
TE Antonio Gates 24
Flex Hines Ward 11
K Shayne Graham 3
Def Philadelphia 8

Bench
1 Matt Hasselbeck 7
2 Marcel Shipp 7
3 Nate Burleson 18
4 Rod Smith 6
5 Eric Moulds 10
6 TJ Houshmanzadeh 6
7 Braylon Edwards 1

Total 186
21wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 16:54
Wiggs SuperNovas completed roster

QB T Green 17
RB T Henry 19
RB R Johnson 25
WR D Branch 11
WR A Boldin 15
FLEX D Jackson 17
TE A Crumpler 12
DEF Atl 3
Kicker Viniteri 4

Bench
1 Faulk 7
2 Blaylock 1
3 Porter 10
4. Bettis 10
5 Williamson 5
6 D Staley 9
7 Roy williams 16
22kev
      Donor
      ID: 043111845
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 19:12
I am Cedthesaviour. Now if only he would frickin sign!
23sarge33rd
      ID: 670916
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 21:19
Butthead----you're lite 1 player.

Beezer--It wont take the change. I have emailed espn about it.

SITS---WTF is your roster??????????
24 The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Fri, Aug 26, 2005, 21:29
Weird - thanks for the update.

I can send you a spreadsheet of all players bought and prices if you want it. If GL has his as well that will help to confirm prices. Just let me know via email if you want it.
25wazaaap_guy
      ID: 1271036
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 20:43
i drafted eric shelton but was given daimon shelton...sarge can you please make the switch.
26sarge33rd
      ID: 27563010
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 14:38
I will try. site still hasnt let me swap portis in and putzier out, and i've emailed espn 3 times about in the past 4 or 5 days. gonna hit them again today i guess.
27FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 16:23
Sarge, does everyone have their roster loaded yet? If you do, one option would be to activate the league and let those managers make the drop/adds.

28sarge33rd
      ID: 27563010
      Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 12:03
have thought about that Frick, but losing confidence in how well it might work. What I am presently planning on, if I cant get it right by Sunday, is to redesignate the draft as an on-line one. Clean out all the rosters, then I'll just draft into each team, one of that teams players and then continue until complete. Knowing the picks ahead of time, shouldnt take but about 20 minutes tops to complete.
29sarge33rd
      ID: 27563010
      Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:40
OK....teams set, draft closed, rosters "fixed".

Anything else needs adjusting, NOW is the time to let me know!


GL all. :)
30butthead
      ID: 781140
      Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 01:17
I need a new link.

<<<>>>
31sarge33rd
      ID: 670916
      Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 10:35
here ya go
32butthead
      ID: 781140
      Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 16:16
Thanks Sarge only 2 votes over there?
Is anyone else playing?
33sarge33rd
      ID: 27563010
      Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 15:58
i drafted eric shelton but was given daimon shelton...sarge can you please make the switch.

ouch....

Panthers RB Eric Shelton was placed on injured reserve with an injured foot and will miss the entire season. The ailment could have saved him from being released by the team, which wasn't impressed with his preseason performances. Owners in keeper leagues who coveted Shelton might want to drop him on their rank lists for next season.
34butthead
      ID: 781140
      Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 08:31
You're kidding me with this......?

Your team has reached the league's acquisition limit of 1. You can no longer add players from freeagency or waivers.

Nice.
35FRICK@Work
      ID: 220211
      Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 10:25
I believe that Sarge set the league up that way to prevent people who didn't have the cap room, me for example, from adding players illegally.

36sarge33rd
      ID: 670916
      Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 23:07
that limit should reset ea week. (at least, that was my intent. If it doesnt, then we simply do F/A's via email and I'll plug them in myself manually.

Its no biggy really. The cap limit is paramount and that has to be monitored. closely.
37sarge33rd
      ID: 27563010
      Sat, Sep 17, 2005, 13:16
OK...it appears as though ESPN, is doing everything possible, to make my choice of them as host site, a pi$$ poor one. :(

With apologies to all in the league, we'll be moving for next season to a different site.
38wiggs
      ID: 0913723
      Sat, Oct 08, 2005, 12:15
SOmething is wrong with my account, it will not allow me to make any changes to my roster and I tried to claim some guys off waivers and they were all denied.
39sarge33rd
      ID: 148422311
      Sat, Oct 08, 2005, 14:59
drop me an email wiggs. I'll make the changes for you, then we can look into the problem.


sarge33rd@hotmail.com
40sarge33rd
      ID: 670916
      Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 09:47
got your email wiggs. your requested changes were made.
41wiggs
      ID: 0913723
      Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 10:16
thanks sarge
42sarge33rd
      ID: 670916
      Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 17:05
np. still unable to sign into the site?

I could try sending you a new invite I guess. Better than waiting on ESPN to get around to opening their emails, then possibly, maybe, if they feel like it, reading one of them, and then....
43sarge33rd
      ID: 670916
      Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 17:09
actually, no I cant. Site wont let me select to send an invite, to an owner who has already joined. :(

As if it were needed, just one more reason this will be the first and only year I use ESPN for fantasy anything.
44Young Gunz
      ID: 18742221
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 14:59
What is going on with this site? Can you not make changes after the 1st game is played or somehting? I have been without access since wednesday night, got home today ready to set my line up and it will not allow me to make changes. ESPN is really a frustrating site.
45sarge33rd
      ID: 148422311
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 15:01
once the 1st game of the week kicksoff, the rosters are locked. Had I known you were w/o access, I'd have set your rosters for you with but a request for me to have done so.
46Young Gunz
      ID: 18742221
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 15:03
Now I went to vote for if I was planning on coming back next year and it is telling me my password is invalid, which makes no sense because it is a saved password.
47wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 15:05
Thats ok Corey, I havent had access in about 3 weeks now and my pw is also saved. IT just stopped working and when I requested a new one nothing came.
48Young Gunz
      ID: 18742221
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 15:06
Sarge, Please dont take this the wrong way, but I didnt have access to the internet, therefore I couldnt make my changes. How could I contact you? When I left on Wednesday night the game hadnt been changed yet. I always make my changes on Sat. when I come home after I check the injury reports and the projections.
49sarge33rd
      ID: 148422311
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 16:07
emailing espn...again, about this pw/issue.

not to worry YG. I'm at work and skim reading. Cognitive logic isnt 100% when I'm distracted. :)
50sarge33rd
      ID: 148422311
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 16:43
email sent, and complaint posted on their forum. If you guys care to let me know what you want done with your rosters, I'll make the necessary changes for you.


sarge33rd@hotmail.com
51kev
      Donor
      ID: 043111845
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 16:45
Bench Keary Colbert, start Kevin Curtis please

Oh, and go back in time, and let me avoid Javon Walker, Chad Pennington, and Ahman Green
52sarge33rd
      ID: 148422311
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 16:56
Only if I can go back and avoid Culpepper and Harrison and Bennett and.....

:)

I cant make roster changes for this week. Rosters froze with kick-off Fri. If you need changes made for next week, I'll be happy to do those for you.

Also, email me if you want to excercise a waiver pickup. I'll get it entered for you guys.


************************************************


I'm truly sorry gang, for the piss poor way this site works. (or fails to work to be more accurate.) I had not used ESPN before, but they had such a flewxible scoring system that it looked like it should work quite well. Who knew, they didnt know how to set up a site to begin with???

Next year, we WILL have a different host site. This off season, we WILL rework the waiver system and we will discuss/decide any other issues which have arisen.

I guess what I'm asking for....I'd genuinely like to see this league continue. I'm just hoping that everyone can remain incredibly patient, while we work through these pains that are encountered, when a new league and a new format, is attempted.
53GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 18:38
Cliff "Flexible" Dilling waiting it out.

Cliff
54FRICK
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 22:08
I love this league, it is the only one that I have a winning record in. Actually I have been enjoying the league and I think part of the reason for lack of moves is the structure of the league.

I would support moving the date to get half of your money back. Another possibility would be to base the refund on the week of the season. After the first week you would get 15/16ths back, after week 5 you would get 11/16ths back, after week 8 you would get 1/2 of your money back. This would help managers from being hamstrung if a stud went down during week 6.

With the money needed to pick up a free agent, I can't see the harm in allowing more than 1 move in a week. Based on the number of moves this year I don't think this would be a huge factor, but could help a manager if they needed to drop a more expensive player to pick up 2 free agents.

I love the format of this league and the draft while time consuming was a absoulte blast and I can't wait to do it again next year.

Looking back I have to attribute my steller start to my lucking into one of the two major steals of the draft, Eli Manning, the other being Carson Palmer.
55sarge33rd
      ID: 670916
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 22:29
I would be very open to hearing the input of more managers. I'm opposed to a straight pro-rata refund, as the roto system really does do a good job of emulating a players contract status. To that affect, I could see going with a 50% refund through week 6 and a 25% through say week 10, then nothing after week 10 kickoff.

Agreed on the multiple free agency moves. One thing that didnt work well at all here, is that while the site says its in reverse order of standings, the site simply executes the moves as they are put in. It doesnt que them up for sequential execution. Neither, did the managers grasp the idea of emailing me with their desired moves, for me to manually execute in the proper sequence. Thats one of the things we'll need to look for in a new site next season, one that ques the waiver activity, for execution in sequence.

While you can look back at the draft and point at what clearly helped you out, I can do the same but in reverse. $42 for Culpepper and $38 for M Harrison, have totally wiped me out. Thats 40% of my team budget, and it is returning less than 10% of my team production. NOT good at all. I will agree though, the draft process itself, was quite fun to engage in.
56kev
      Donor
      ID: 043111845
      Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 22:53
For every past auction draft I have been involved in, it was just in the drafting of players. Once teams were set, there was no "cap". That was the one thing that confused me this year. I didn't know if I should be picking up RB's while Jones/Green have been banged up, or if I should hold off because of cap restraints? I knew Walker was a drop, as he was out for the year.

I would be up for doing it again though- for sure.
57FRICK
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Sun, Oct 23, 2005, 10:36
I could live 50 then 25 idea Sarge.

We have already clarified some points that need to be addressed in the league rules, but overall I would give you an A for making fair and timely decisions as commish.

One of the other issues that needs to be addressed is the effects of trades on salary caps and trading $$. I personally feel that you should be able to include cash as part of the trade. It is a subtle difference than the other manager paying the salary. I could forsee a problem with a manager not dropping a player because it would benefit another manager by freeing up more cap room for them.
58 The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Sun, Oct 23, 2005, 12:15
I think at a minimum we have enough to continue on next year, as I think this is a great league. Considering all the obstacles this league has faced even just getting off the ground, I think it'd be a shame to let all that go to waste. I'll definitely be back next year.

BTW, the "other" steal of the draft is on the trading block for the right price. $6 for the #1 QB in the league will get you a lot of cap room. Looking for a top WR in return - email me with any offers.
59sarge33rd
      ID: 670916
      Sun, Oct 23, 2005, 12:58
If I had a top WR, I'd have already extended an offer. lol Pepper, has not been helpful AT ALL, and my supposed top wr Harrison, hasnt panned out either.

However, if you want the trade, I'll give Harrison for palmer.
60GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Oct 23, 2005, 13:30
Guys,
I'll be home tomorrow.
Let me assess everything Tues, Weds and I'll see if there are any moves I need to make.
Overall I think things are working pretty good, other than the issues with the site.

Cliff
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